President Donald J. Trump

[WOTR]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_lYex4l6dU

Great.  So now you have taken to quoting fake news sources when they present views that are in line with your own? 

[Dr. MD MD]

Great.  So now you have taken to quoting fake news sources when they present views that are in line with your own? 

Huh? Did you avtually watch it?

[Dr. MD MD]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UjR2LNOYtnk

[Catsmile]

You didn't mind Obama ignoring US immigration law, and dictating something more to his liking when welcoming members of Mexican drug cartels and members of Latin American gangs.  You didn't mind Obama ignoring US immigration law and welcoming Syrian refugees - which was never approved by Congressional legislation.  You don't mind the Occupy/BLM/Antifa thugs violently terrorizing our cities.  You didn't mind the Clintons setting up a ''charitable foundation'', a front for collecting bribes while she was a sitting Senator, then Sec State, then presidential candidate of a major party.

But now you want to rail about a foreign leader who isn't following the Rule of Law?

You're thoughts are not even coherent.

I didn't mind all of those things? Really? Where did I say that? Show me. Oh wait, you're spinning fact free fabrications, yet again. Prove all your allegations, go on do it. Oh wait... you can't prove fact free fabrications from your fantasies. Reasonable people call what you spew bullshit.

Why am I talking about Duterte in the first place? Because P*B brought him up, and didn't have a problem justifying extrajudicial killing. P*B the same person who has railed on for the better part of a decade about the Constitution and Rule of Law.

How quickly he abandoned the ideal held so near and dear, upon seeing a world leader exercise the power of expedience, over rule of law. P*B hides behind the Constitution and Rule of Law, using it as a weapon when it suits him. Then he rapidly discards those principles favoring the power of expedience, as it suits him.

You can't have it both ways. Holding such opposing views shows emptiness of character, a moral bankruptcy devoid of a true center. Any means necessary at all cost, seems to be the true alter from which people worship, despite all the empty bloviating. This is a problem BOTH the Left and Right currently have. And it is part of why we are getting ever worse politicians to vote for. Most people don't seem to understand this self-evident concept anymore.

I'm not coherent. Really?  Oh the lulz.

It really pains me to type this, but... The People really do get the Government they deserve. 

[Catsmile]

He started the extrajudicial killings at the beginning of his term. He didn't try anything else as president. He created a life and death witch hunt. No innocent people were killed, right? The continued killings hasn't made a dent in their social problems, only adds to them. His unilateral action incenses increased the corruption problems, increases the mistrust people have of officials, and increases Filipinos mistrust of each other. Living in fear someone might decree you or a loved-one as a drug dealer/user, to even a score, because they don't like you, or your political views, is certainly a very effective way to quiet down decent, or opponents alike. How healthy can that be for the psyche of society? 

   ...

Isn't that evidence he's not the raging, out-of-control dictator you are trying to paint him to be?

"He started the extrajudicial killings at the beginning of his term. He didn't try anything else as president. He created a life and death witch hunt."

Let me clarify what I wrote above, for P*B. Rodrigo Duterte shortly after becoming President, unilaterally decreed using extrajudicial killings as his FIRST go-to option, in his war on drugs. Before trying to use many other options that are available.   

It's quite telling how P*B edited my post using a single line of text, destroying the context, just to spin more of his fact free narratives. Nice try. I took the liberty of inserting the paragraph to give context to the line he took out of context.
P*BFacts&Logicâ,,¢

MOAR

[21st Century Man]

He finally deleted it at around 5am EST.
But, this isn't a laughing matter, and your attempting to cover it up by making light of it fools no one and is cowardice. Your boy is finally over the edge and that makes him much more dangerous than he already was. Rather than making anything "great" he's made a complete ASS of The United States too many times. I should say, YOU who voted for him and continue to defend him have DEFILED The United States. Good work, you brain-dead MORONS. (but that Pigs would Defile is only natural, isn't it.)

You must be a very unhappy person.   Did you ever have a sense of humor or have you always been this morose?  You open yourself up to more and more attacks because you don't have a sense of humor and play Chicken Little all of the time.  The sky isn't falling yet all you do is bitch, day in and day out.  Go get laid or something.  I don't need to know the details of who and how you fucked.  Just do it.

[Catsmile]

Isn't that evidence he's not the raging, out-of-control dictator you are trying to paint him to be?

The extrajudicial killings of citizens or non-citizens for selling or using drugs is outside of Dutertes powers. Fact. He overstepped the power given him by the the People under the Philippine Constitution with his extrajudicial killings of drug dealers/users. Fact. Murder is illegal. Fact. Extrajudicial executions are illegal. Fact. Being murdered for dealing/using drugs without being arrested, charged, or tried in a court of law is illegal. Fact. Being murdered/executed because you are a Cannabis and/or Meth addict is illegal. Fact. Did Duterte violate human rights? ...

President Rodrigo Duterte said on camera, he won't comply with the Supreme Court and/or Congress if they repeal Marshall Law in Mindanao. Fact. IF the SC or Congress does resend Marshall Law, and he doesn't comply, he will be overstepping his powers, again. Fact.

The Republic of the Philippine Islands Government, and it's people can decide what actions to take, if any, as it applies to President Rodrigo Duterte. People of the world can conclude for themselves what he is or isn't, based upon the FACTS. Without anyone implying anything.

I've not implied Duterte is a dictator. You've jumped to that conclusion on your own. You're also attributing and foisting implications upon me, drawn from your faulty conclusions. Furthermore creatively editing a post out of context as "evidence" is also laughable. Keep spinning fact free fabrications, attempting to create fallacies and straw man arguments where there are none. All for the sake of a narrative. 

Did I say Duterte was a dictator? Fake.
Did I imply he was a "raging, out-of-control dictator"? Fake.
Editing a quote removing all context as evidence. Fake.
P*BFacts&Logicâ,,¢
<Wink Emoji>

[Dr. MD MD]

<Wink Emoji>

You know they actually have those here, right? 

[K_Dubb]

"The name's Law.  Marshal Law, to you.  And these here parts are under Martial Law."

[Jackstar]

Europe will have been turned into a desert - everything blown up, fields plowed under

Still - preferable to a Clinton presidency.

[paladin1991]

Isn't that evidence he's not the raging, out-of-control dictator you are trying to paint him to be?


"He started the extrajudicial killings at the beginning of his term. He didn't try anything else as president. He created a life and death witch hunt."

Let me clarify what I wrote above, for P*B. Rodrigo Duterte shortly after becoming President, unilaterally decreed using extrajudicial killings as his FIRST go-to option, in his war on drugs. Before trying to use many other options that are available.   

It's quite telling how P*B edited my post using a single line of text, destroying the context, just to spin more of his fact free narratives. Nice try. I took the liberty of inserting the paragraph to give context to the line he took out of context.
P*BFacts&Logicâ,,¢

MOAR

Cancer must be excised. 

[Meister_000]

The Democrats (to include the MSM) will come out of these investigations much more damaged than Trump. 

https://youtu.be/_BUe4Sxrr4Q

Silly girl, this is just Republican Pigs being Republican Pigs. Nunes, disgraced chair of the House Intel Committee (and the Republicans generally), is trying to make a name for himself by deflecting-from the Russian Active Interference in 2016 Presidential Election investigations and side-tracking the committee's resourses and attention to the "Umasking" bull shit (initiated back in March by Nunes himself in the first place).

Tip for you girls; you don't assult the entire US Intelligence Community, CIA, NSA, & FBI, repeatedly and groundlessly and survive. That's a game you can't "win" -- particularly when you're The Filth that is Team-Trump who's the assailant. So no, Kidnostad3, all you Pigs achieve by pursuing this is a further redoubling of efforts and increased resolve to bury your reprehensible asses. Enjoy! -- your undoing cometh all the quicker now.

[Meister_000]

Common Republican News Hound
Got a Nose for News!

[The King of Kings]

Silly girl, this is just Republican Pigs being Republican Pigs. Nunes, disgraced chair of the House Intel Committee (and the Republicans generally), is trying to make a name for himself by deflecting-from the Russian Active Interference in 2016 Presidential Election investigations and side-tracking the committee's resourses and attention to the "Umasking" bull shit (initiated back in March by Nunes himself in the first place).

Tip for you girls; you don't assult the entire US Intelligence Community, CIA, NSA, & FBI, repeatedly and groundlessly and survive. That's a game you can't "win" -- particularly when you're The Filth that is Team-Trump who's the assailant. So no, Kidnostad3, all you Pigs achieve by pursuing this is a further redoubling of efforts and increased resolve to bury your reprehensible asses. Enjoy! -- your undoing cometh all the quicker now.

Looks like the jew got done early rounding up foreskins and mutilating little boys genitals today.

[Dr. MD MD]

Tip for you girls; you don't assult the entire US Intelligence Community, CIA, NSA, & FBI, repeatedly and groundlessly and survive. That's a game you can't "win" -- particularly when you're The Filth that is Team-Trump who's the assailant. So no, Kidnostad3, all you Pigs achieve by pursuing this is a further redoubling of efforts and increased resolve to bury your reprehensible asses. Enjoy! -- your undoing cometh all the quicker now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SESI19h4wDo

[Meister_000]

Silly girl, this is just Republican Pigs being Republican Pigs. Nunes, disgraced chair of the House Intel Committee (and the Republicans generally), is trying to make a name for himself by deflecting-from the Russian Active Interference in 2016 Presidential Election investigations and side-tracking the committee's resourses and attention to the "Umasking" bull shit (initiated back in March by Nunes himself in the first place).

Tip for you girls; you don't assult the entire US Intelligence Community, CIA, NSA, & FBI, repeatedly and groundlessly and survive. That's a game you can't "win" -- particularly when you're The Filth that is Team-Trump who's the assailant. So no, Kidnostad3, all you Pigs achieve by pursuing this is a further redoubling of efforts and increased resolve to bury your reprehensible asses. Enjoy! -- your undoing cometh all the quicker now.

related Pig-Speak

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/870234811616677889

[PB the Deplorable]

I didn't mind all of those things? Really? Where did I say that? Show me. Oh wait, you're spinning fact free fabrications, yet again. Prove all your allegations, go on do it. Oh wait... you can't prove fact free fabrications from your fantasies. Reasonable people call what you spew bullshit...

Well, when I see posts going on and on and on about Trump, from people who were never the least bit critical of a long list of unconstitutional and criminal behavior by Obama or Hilary Clinton, isn't the assumption they didn't mind it and supported them no matter what?  Wouldn't the same go for someone choosing the leader of some foreign country to complain about for undermining their rule of law, but never Obama for doing that here? 

Wouldn't you find it odd if one of us were to suddenly become fascinated with dumb tweets of, say, the president of Kazakhstan, while ignoring those of Trump?

[Yorkshire pud]

Anyone remember Carter Page? The one time advisor to Trump with numerous speech appointments in Russia? Well, you remember how when the FBI paid attention to his admission on telly to Chris Hayes that he'd met (maybe  ) Kislyak (Russian ambassador and spy recruiter) at the RNC, he then went on studio round robin interviews with his beaming smile? Then he didn't. He went quiet and frowned a lot.

Then Spicy said with a straight face that Trump had never met him (although Trump picked him from a list) and was but a mere extra in the great Trump epic movie. Nothing to see. Page under the bus. Page frowned some more.

This yesterday from Trump.

“So now it is reported that the Democrats, who have excoriated Carter Page about Russia, don’t want him to testify. He blows away their case against him & now wants to clear his name by showing ‘the false or misleading testimony by James Comey, John Brennan…’ Witch Hunt!”

Other than implying that Comey and Brennan have committed perjury, he also makes the assertion that Page can prove their testimonies are wrong. How does he know that?  He's never met Page apparently.  :

Curiouser and curiouser. 

[Yorkshire pud]

As a thank you to Putin, Trump is also considering returning the two Russian compounds that were cleared and shut down because they were not the the resorts and playgrounds first intended, but centres for espionage. The staff were told to leave in twenty four hours. Putin at first had a moan, then didn't. In fact he threw a party for American diplomats and their families in Russia. Weird eh? Maybe someone asked him to be patient, and those nasty sanctions imposed for illegally invading Ukraine would be lifted (because the Trump team had already had Ukraine taken off the agenda at the RNC) and the resorts would be reopened asap for them to continue using as espionage stations.

Of course, Its all reasonably explained as perfectly innocent. As an aside, I wonder how many NATO spooks have been compromised/ killed by compliance with the Kremln?

[Gd5150]

Curiouser and curiouser. 

Not really. It's June now. Below is all the evidence collected so far by a half dozen different investigations and a year of illegal eavesdropping linking the Trump campaign and Russia.






























Any questions?

[Yorkshire pud]

Not really. It's June now. Below is all the evidence collected so far by a half dozen different investigations and a year of illegal eavesdropping linking the Trump campaign and Russia.


Any questions?

Oh bless you. Such devotion. Its June, and? The Iran/contra affair didn't conclude until 1991. And you know Trump was illegally evesdropped on, because?

Thus far Spicey and Trump said they would show the evidence. Evidence that has not been presented, in fact Spicer said that Trump would get the allegation investigated by Congress. Why? Trump said he had proof, what is there to investigate?

But that doesn't explain how Trump knows Carter Page has evidence that Brennan and Comey lied, when he says he never met him...

So how?

[Yorkshire pud]

Any questions?

Yes. Why did Flynns lawyer say his client had a story to tell, but wanted immunity? Now pleading the fifth.

Why did Kushner (when still a civilian and specifically not being put in the WH at the time) ask the Russian ambassador for a covert back channel to the Kremlin via the Russian embassy? Kislyak being so astonished that he told the Kremlin but was baffled that Kushner seemed to be unaware about compromising security for Russia and the USA because its a given that commes between the Russians are monitored.

Those two for now. I'll ask more later. 

[albrecht]

As an aside, I wonder how many NATO spooks have been compromised/ killed by compliance with the Kremln?

If so when will the "fake news" report on it? Even newspapers who were strong supporters of Obama were, finally, forced to report on the damage his administration did to our national security and "spooks" and sources. Just to mention a few of the many. Not even touching his support of radical Islamic "rebels," destabilizing the Middle East even more by support for Islamic "Springs," ignoring terrorist threats from immigrants due to political correctness so the Muslims can do their bombing or shooting, his open-border allowing criminal illegals to waltz into our country, or the billions he gave to Iran to get some hostages and help them get a nuclear weapon.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/20/world/asia/china-cia-spies-espionage.html?_r=0

"WASHINGTON â€" The Chinese government systematically dismantled C.I.A. spying operations in the country starting in 2010, killing or imprisoning more than a dozen sources over two years and crippling intelligence gathering there for years afterward.
Current and former American officials described the intelligence breach as one of the worst in decades."

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jul/09/opm-hack-21-million-personal-information-stolen
"Sensitive information including social security numbers concerning more than 21 million people was stolen last month when the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) was hacked, the US federal agency said on Thursday."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/19/nsa-gchq-sim-card-billions-cellphones-hacking
"American and British spies hacked into the world’s largest sim card manufacturer in a move that gave them unfettered access to billions of cellphones around the globe and looks set to spark another international row into overreach by espionage agencies."

And, under Obama, you have Manning (whose sentence he commuted because he was a tranny and so a special place in Obama's heart,) Snowden*, Assange, etc.

"The exact size of Snowden's disclosure is unknown, but Australian officials have estimated 15,000 or more Australian intelligence files  and British officials estimate at least 58,000 British intelligence files.NSA Director Keith Alexander initially estimated that Snowden had copied anywhere from 50,000 to 200,000 NSA documents. Later estimates provided by U.S. officials were on the order of 1.7 million, a number that originally came from Department of Defense talking points. In July 2014, The Washington Post reported on a cache previously provided by Snowden from domestic NSA operations consisting of "roughly 160,000 intercepted e-mail and instant-message conversations, some of them hundreds of pages long, and 7,900 documents taken from more than 11,000 online accounts."  A U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency report declassified in June 2015 said that Snowden took 900,000 Department of Defense files, more than he downloaded from the NSA"

[Yorkshire pud]

If so when will the "fake news" report on it? Even newspapers who were strong supporters of Obama were, finally, forced to report on the damage his administration did to our national security and "spooks" and sources.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/20/world/asia/china-cia-spies-espionage.html?_r=0

"WASHINGTON â€" The Chinese government systematically dismantled C.I.A. spying operations in the country starting in 2010, killing or imprisoning more than a dozen sources over two years and crippling intelligence gathering there for years afterward.
Current and former American officials described the intelligence breach as one of the worst in decades."

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jul/09/opm-hack-21-million-personal-information-stolen
"Sensitive information including social security numbers concerning more than 21 million people was stolen last month when the Office of Personnel Management (OPM) was hacked, the US federal agency said on Thursday."

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/feb/19/nsa-gchq-sim-card-billions-cellphones-hacking
"American and British spies hacked into the world’s largest sim card manufacturer in a move that gave them unfettered access to billions of cellphones around the globe and looks set to spark another international row into overreach by espionage agencies."

And, under Obama, you have Manning (whose sentence he commuted because he was a tranny and so a special place in Obama's heart,) Snowden*, Assange, etc.

"The exact size of Snowden's disclosure is unknown, but Australian officials have estimated 15,000 or more Australian intelligence files  and British officials estimate at least 58,000 British intelligence files.NSA Director Keith Alexander initially estimated that Snowden had copied anywhere from 50,000 to 200,000 NSA documents. Later estimates provided by U.S. officials were on the order of 1.7 million, a number that originally came from Department of Defense talking points. In July 2014, The Washington Post reported on a cache previously provided by Snowden from domestic NSA operations consisting of "roughly 160,000 intercepted e-mail and instant-message conversations, some of them hundreds of pages long, and 7,900 documents taken from more than 11,000 online accounts."  A U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency report declassified in June 2015 said that Snowden took 900,000 Department of Defense files, more than he downloaded from the NSA"

Hmmm. But where does it say Obama had the Russian ambassador in the oval office and tell them secret information pertaining to an informant, who later Obama said "I didn't mention Israel"....

Where does it mention Obama called the Phillipines President and tell him that two nuclear subs were parked off of NK? And the Phillipine gov later posted the transcript of the conversation.

Snowden is the elephant in the room eh? Protected now by Putin. Friend or foe. Traitor or whistle blower?

Assange is the supervisor. The Kremlin run wikileaks. Trump loves wikileaks. He said so.

Exactly when did Obama openly endorse Russian espionage? Trump has. He's had/has staff who help it along.

Interesting you quote The Guardian and the WP. But they're both castigated by the Trumpers as fake news when it isn't convenent or its embarrassing to Trump. Weird.

[albrecht]

Interesting you quote The Guardian and the WP. But they're both castigated by the Trumpers as fake news when it isn't convenent or its embarrassing to Trump. Weird.

Why is it interesting? It is purposeful. To show that even Obama supporting papers and leftist rags had to report on all the data breaches and national security risks, and yes "dead spooks," that happened under the Obama administration. The OPM leak alone was dangerous but his intelligence problems with China ("dead sources" now) and giving all those billions to help Iran get nuclear weapon capability was really bad. About Russia under his administration:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mgQaFlo_p8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sudCmrAsF4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f1-7BX-iduQ

[Juan]

Yes. Why did Flynns lawyer say his client had a story to tell, but wanted immunity? Now pleading the fifth.

Scooter Libby, Martha Stewart

[Yorkshire pud]

Why is it interesting? It is purposeful. To show that even Obama supporting papers and leftist rags had to report on all the data breaches and national security risks, and yes "dead spooks," that happened under the Obama administration. The OPM leak alone was dangerous but his intelligence problems with China ("dead sources" now) and giving all those billions to help Iran get nuclear weapon capability was really bad. About Russia under his administration:

Yes, but where did Obama impart classified information with the Russians and have a close family member suggest covert commes via the Russian embassy with the Kremlin? Where did Obama praise wikileaks which is accepted to be a vehicle for the FSB to spread hacked information? Where did Obama tell a foreign ruler (none NATO or anyone else) that the US had subs parked anywhere on the planet?

[Yorkshire pud]

Scooter Libby, Martha Stewart

Yeah....what happened there? 

But how does that relate to Flynn? We're talking about the same Flynn aren't we? The one who led the chant 'lock her up', in reference to Clinton leakng classified information. And the same Flynn who said anyone wanting immunity must have something to hide...the same Flynn who said invoking the fifth proved guilt. (As did Trump) 

[albrecht]

Yes, but where did Obama impart classified information with the Russians and have a close family member suggest covert commes via the Russian embassy with the Kremlin? Where did Obama praise wikileaks which is accepted to be a vehicle for the FSB to spread hacked information? Where did Obama tell a foreign ruler (none NATO or anyone else) that the US had subs parked anywhere on the planet?

Having back channels is a good move. They have helped in the past.  I understand you leftists and neo-cons (strange bedfellows) want a new Cold War, or in some cases, a hot one. But I would rather engage in business, rather than war. We've dealt with corrupt countries and even dictators throughout history (look to the Gulf for a few examples or all our business with the Chinese.) Having said that I don't trust the Russians but would rather do oil&gas and mineral deals than have a war. And bring stability to the region and fight the common enemy of Islam. Maybe even, ideally, breaking up the somewhat cosy relationship developing between Russia and China. Obviously we need to be wary and defend allied countries in NATO. And if there was an corruption going between Trump, Clinton, Trump's family, various Foundations, government officials etc with Russia then they should be punished. The investigations should continue but be actual investigations and evidence- not just "fake news" conspiracy theories peddled by partisan "news" organizations.

Obama allowed lots of information about our "subs" and "spooks," and military members as well as ordinary Americans. Just the OPM leak gave even fingerprints and background checks of soldiers and spies out to the world. Manning, Snowden, etc, all on Obama's watch, gave even more information to the world. Under Obama China executed or imprisoned most of our "sources" according to the NY Times (a right-wing, hack-job of a newspaper.) Obama pardoned Manning because he "transitioned."
http://www.navytimes.com/story/military/2015/06/17/sf-86-security-clearance-breach-troops-affected-opm/28866125/
http://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/opm-hack-security-breach-n389476

[Dr. MD MD]

Yeah....what happened there? 

Do some homework, u=you ignorant little bitch!  :