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Started by The General, February 11, 2011, 01:33:34 AM

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Spy on May 20, 2017, 10:57:44 AM
Is that all you've got? Obama. Obama. Obama. Obama. Obama. Obama. Obama. Obama. Obama. Obama. Obama. Obama. Obama.

What's wrong? Can't handle your own double standard?  :D

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on May 20, 2017, 01:55:47 PM
So, only the CIA guys YOU I approve of then?!  ???  ::)

....is what you meant.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on May 20, 2017, 02:15:53 PM
....is what you meant.

No. I won't bother trying to explain though as you're clearly suffering from severe brain damage.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on May 20, 2017, 02:17:53 PM
No. I won't bother trying to explain though as you're clearly suffering from severe brain damage.

You post a yt video of an ex CIA officer who apparently is the final word in what is going on with Trump. Many many more former FBI officers say differently (some of whom have written books about espionage and spy catching) , and you're going with the YT bloke? Remember Trump promised you much and hasn't delivered anything other than make sure his family and self are well feathered. MAGA.. in your mind at least.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on May 20, 2017, 02:23:55 PM
You post a yt video of an ex CIA officer who apparently is the final word in what is going on with Trump. Many many more former FBI officers say differently (some of whom have written books about espionage and spy catching) , and you're going with the YT bloke? Remember Trump promised you much and hasn't delivered anything other than make sure his family and self are well feathered. MAGA.. in your mind at least.

You basically just type to do something with your fingers, I guess because you're really not saying anything here expect I'm a big tool of globalism. Why won't you just believe the propaganda like I do?!  ;D

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on May 20, 2017, 02:27:45 PM
I'm a big tool of globalism. Why won't you just believe the propaganda like I do?!  ;D

Don't be so hard on yourself. One day you'll be all grown up.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on May 20, 2017, 02:30:23 PM
Don't be so hard on yourself. One day you'll be all grown up.

There's that confusion due to severe brain damage again.  ::) ;D


starrmtn001

President Donald Trump & Melania Trump Saudi Arabia Tour by King Salman.  5.20.17.


https://youtu.be/HFwrVFEKe-A


albrecht

Quote from: ©StarrMountain® 2010 on May 20, 2017, 03:33:59 PM
President Donald Trump & Melania Trump Saudi Arabia Tour by King Salman.  5.20.17.

I have a lot of problems with the Saudis but still this was nice:
No Muslim garb for Melania. No bow or apologizing from Trump. I'm sick of winning.

Compare with Obama's pathetically weak manner in greeting foreign leaders, always bowing, apologizing, etc- especially Muslim ones, he was more rude toward people like the Queen etc. Or even compare with the buddy-buddy relationship with the Bushes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WlqW6UCeaY&feature=youtu.be

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: albrecht on May 20, 2017, 05:00:38 PM
I have a lot of problems with the Saudis but still this was nice:
No Muslim garb for Melania. No bow or apologizing from Trump. I'm sick of winning.

Compare with Obama's pathetically weak manner in greeting foreign leaders, always bowing, apologizing, etc- especially Muslim ones, he was more rude toward people like the Queen etc. Or even compare with the buddy-buddy relationship with the Bushes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WlqW6UCeaY&feature=youtu.be

Yeah, and 1.9 billion dollars of arms we just sold them. I suppose the one pro is that iit reduces our military burden there but I wouldn't be surprised if a significant portion of that 1.9 billion dollars worth of arms found it's way into the hands of Muslim terrorists instead of being used to fight them.  ;)

albrecht

Quote from: K_Dubb on May 20, 2017, 04:56:57 PM

Ha. I'm actually surprised the SS, Saudi security, etc allows swords so close to government officials. I'm guessing lots of vetting and dull blades?  ;) I always love when white dudes, especially old or middle-age, have to do some kind of ethnic thing. Some years ago I was at an Indian wedding, a very long and elaborate affair, multiple days and events, and at one point had to do some kind of weird stick banging dance thing. It was hilarious, especially after many drinks and my lack of coordination. ps: hope you had a good Syttende Mai!

https://youtu.be/li9dGCC2SdU

starrmtn001

President Donald Trump Participates in the Signing Ceremony.  5.20.17.


https://youtu.be/4RJ0G6ZPn2U

Spy

Quote from: albrecht on May 20, 2017, 05:00:38 PM

No bow or apologizing from Trump. I'm sick of winning.

No bow from Trump?  Obama was respectful, Trump was submissive. 



Nice curtsy from Trump.


starrmtn001

Quote from: albrecht on May 20, 2017, 05:08:33 PM
Ha. I'm actually surprised the SS, Saudi security, etc allows swords so close to government officials. I'm guessing lots of vetting and dull blades?  ;) I always love when white dudes, especially old or middle-age, have to do some kind of ethnic thing. Some years ago I was at an Indian wedding, a very long and elaborate affair, multiple days and events, and at one point had to do some kind of weird stick banging dance thing. It was hilarious, especially after many drinks and my lack of coordination. ps: hope you had a good Syttende Mai!

https://youtu.be/li9dGCC2SdU

I wonder how many people recognize what a historical and world changing event this Summit is.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: albrecht on May 20, 2017, 05:00:38 PM
I have a lot of problems with the Saudis but still this was nice:
No Muslim garb for Melania. No bow or apologizing from Trump. I'm sick of winning.

Compare with Obama's pathetically weak manner in greeting foreign leaders, always bowing, apologizing, etc- especially Muslim ones, he was more rude toward people like the Queen etc. Or even compare with the buddy-buddy relationship with the Bushes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WlqW6UCeaY&feature=youtu.be


Hmmmm... This is what Trump said when the Obamas went to SA in 2015,

Many people are saying it was wonderful that Mrs. Obama refused to wear a scarf in Saudi Arabia, but they were insulted.We have enuf enemies
8:40 AM - 29 Jan 2015

Still, you can't expect him to remember that.


Yorkshire pud

Quote from: ©StarrMountain® 2010 on May 20, 2017, 05:17:15 PM
I wonder how many people recognize what a historical and world changing event this Summit is.

How so? Trump will spend a night in another country and without his favourite teddy bear?

albrecht

Quote from: Spy on May 20, 2017, 05:14:02 PM
No bow from Trump?  Obama was respectful, Trump was submissive. 



Nice curtsy from Trump.


I have a lot of problems with the Saudis but compare the initial greeting, and the all the apologetic speeches Obama gave. With Trump's and Melania's. So Trump need to stoop so that some fake "royal" can reach to put some weird Saudi medal on him. I never seen Trump in Muslim garb (though I have seen him with Guiliani in drag.  :o ) but Obama has done it for decades.

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=obama+muslim+clothes&FORM=HDRSC2


http://youtu.be/9WlqW6UCeaY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WlqW6UCeaY&feature=youtu.be

starrmtn001

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on May 20, 2017, 05:21:30 PM
How so? Trump will spend a night in another country and without his favourite teddy bear?
What??!  :o    Are you not paying attention? :-\

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: albrecht on May 20, 2017, 05:21:55 PM
I have a lot of problems with the Saudis but compare the initial greeting, and the all the apologetic speeches Obama gave. With Trump's and Melania's. So Trump need to stoop so that some fake "royal" can reach to put some weird Saudi medal on him. I never seen Trump in Muslim garb (though I have seen him with Guiliani in drag.  :o ) but Obama has done it for decades.
https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=obama+muslim+clothes&FORM=HDRSC2

http://youtu.be/9WlqW6UCeaY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WlqW6UCeaY&feature=youtu.be

You're forgetting too that Trump will be wetnursed the whole time. The only overseas leaders who 'like' him are the ones he's told he loves their work (i.e. he has a hotel in their country), he's seen as a demented idiot in the west. Christ knows what Theresa May was thinking when she invited him to the uk for a state visit.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on May 20, 2017, 05:17:45 PM

Hmmmm... This is what Trump said when the Obamas went to SA in 2015,

Many people are saying it was wonderful that Mrs. Obama refused to wear a scarf in Saudi Arabia, but they were insulted.We have enuf enemies
8:40 AM - 29 Jan 2015

Still, you can't expect him to remember that.

Like everyone else, the Saudis felt that the more of Michelle that is covered the better.  Melania on the other hand...

albrecht

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on May 20, 2017, 05:17:45 PM

Hmmmm... This is what Trump said when the Obamas went to SA in 2015,

Many people are saying it was wonderful that Mrs. Obama refused to wear a scarf in Saudi Arabia, but they were insulted.We have enuf enemies
8:40 AM - 29 Jan 2015

Still, you can't expect him to remember that.
Men aren't required to wear head coverings in Saudi Arabia. It wouldn't surprise me if Michelle also was able to drive.  ;)
Note "fake news" sources:
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/04/02/michelle.obama.queen/index.html
http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1888962,00.html
And when Obama gave as a gift to your PM some DVDs, wrong region but, I guess, Obama assumed they had a Philips 'all region' DVD player, and gave your Queen an iPOD with his speeches on it? So lame.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/president-obama-queen-ipod-loaded-videos-broadway-tunes-article-1.359259
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/02/world/europe/02ipod.html
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2009/apr/02/barack-obama-presents-queen-ipod
https://www.theguardian.com/world/deadlineusa/2009/mar/06/film-list-gordon-brown-barack-obama

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: ©StarrMountain® 2010 on May 20, 2017, 05:23:57 PM
What??!  :o    Are you not paying attention? :-\

He managed to use his sharpie again to scribble his name for an arms deal? Help me out here.... Oh!!! You mean bring peace to the ME, when he thinks all Muslims are the same faction: and he's absolutely zero idea about any of it?

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: albrecht on May 20, 2017, 05:28:50 PM
Men aren't required to wear head coverings in Saudi Arabia. It wouldn't surprise me if Michelle also was able to drive.  ;)
Note "fake news" sources:
http://edition.cnn.com/2009/LIVING/04/02/michelle.obama.queen/index.html
http://content.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,1888962,00.html
And when Obama gave as a gift to your PM some DVDs, wrong region but, I guess, Obama assumed they had a Philips 'all region' DVD player, and gave your Queen an iPOD with his speeches on it? So lame.
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/president-obama-queen-ipod-loaded-videos-broadway-tunes-article-1.359259
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/02/world/europe/02ipod.html
https://www.theguardian.com/music/2009/apr/02/barack-obama-presents-queen-ipod
https://www.theguardian.com/world/deadlineusa/2009/mar/06/film-list-gordon-brown-barack-obama

It isn't fake. Look back on his twatter account. Oh, Obama I'm guessing didn't buy the dvds.. As for self aggrandising; You are kidding aren't you? Lol...the Riyadh Trump tower had his face projected on it! Just in case anyone overlooked he was dropping in.

Catsmile

Lots of POTUS love for the Oil King to go around...

                       First date?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QXcYupmaEY

albrecht

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on May 20, 2017, 05:32:49 PM
It isn't fake. Look back on his twatter account. Oh, Obama I'm guessing didn't buy the dvds.. As for self aggrandising; You are kidding aten't you? Lol...the Riyadh Trump tower had his face projected on it! Just in case anyone overlooked he was dropping in.
Wouldn't even a low level staffer or protocol officer told to buy some DVDs as a sincere gift to our strongest ally know that DVD have regions? Or say, you know "Obama DVDs and IPODs with your speeches on it might be great gifts in the Hood but as a diplomatic gift you might want to reconsider"....And our State Dept, under Obama and Hillary, doesn't even know how to translate "reset" into Russia for that infantile stunt of a "reset button" with Russia? I don't expect the DOS to necessarily speak Russia but surely we have some folks who do! And I would expect someone at the DOS to say: "gee, a gimmicky reset button stunt doesn't seem very adult or proper."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sudCmrAsF4

No doubt. I never liked the Hollywood aspect about Trump, in addition to his liberal beliefs, some friends and associates, and his soft views on immigration. But so far he is doing fine, considering the forces against him and compared with what Hillary promised for the country.  Even if he left, impeached, or whatever we have a good Court appointment, illegals are leaving/not coming (as much,) and so on.

albrecht

Quote from: Catsmile on May 20, 2017, 05:33:19 PM
Lots of POTUS love for the Oil King to go around...

                       First date?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3QXcYupmaEY
That isn't a first date, by any means. The Saudi/Bush relationship goes back generations. I will be interested to hear Trump or Rex on is OPEC decision to re-start the battle against US oil&gas, especially shale-based, and how Trump's relationship with the Saudis versus his campaign speeches against them, against Islam generally, and support for US-based energy extraction. And if Venezuela will go along with the mainly Saudi-led OPEC in the fight against US production- I can't see how they can considering what is going on in their country.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: albrecht on May 20, 2017, 05:39:33 PM
Wouldn't even a low level staffer or protocol officer told to buy some DVDs as a sincere gift to our strongest ally know that DVD have regions? Or say, you know "Obama DVDs and IPODs with your speeches on it might be great gifts in the Hood but as a diplomatic gift you might want to reconsider"....And our State Dept, under Obama and Hillary, doesn't even know how to translate "reset" into Russia for that infantile stunt of a "reset button" with Russia? I don't expect the DOS to necessarily speak Russia but surely we have some folks who do! And I would expect someone at the DOS to say: "gee, a gimmicky reset button stunt doesn't seem very adult or proper."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sudCmrAsF4

No doubt. I never liked the Hollywood aspect about Trump, in addition to his liberal beliefs, some friends and associates, and his soft views on immigration. But so far he is doing fine, considering the forces against him and compared with what Hillary promised for the country.  Even if he left, impeached, or whatever we have a good Court appointment, illegals are leaving/not coming (as much,) and so on.

Are you seriously griping about dvd regions when you have a POTUS who ignored warnings about appointing Micheal Flynn who 'forgot' to say he was working-to the tune of $500000, for the Turkish president, and therefore put the stop on a mission that had been in the planning for months to arm the Kurds to liberate Raqqa from ISIS, because the Turkish president objected to arming the Kurds, even though it would have saved civilians' lives?

Then that same POTUS admits to the Russians he sacked the director of the FBI to take the heat off him, after telling Lester Holt that was the reason too; after Pence and his other lackies tell the press it was because Clinton was disrespected by Comey last year although Trump had no problem with it then. Even now that Mueller has been appointed by the DAG (Who probably realises now that having 'Appointed DAG by President Trump' on his CV might be a useful omission for the future), there's the chance Trump may tell DAG to fire Mueller, and fire Rosenstein if he refuses.

But dvds.......yeah right.

albrecht

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on May 20, 2017, 06:00:49 PM
Are you seriously griping about dvd regions when you have a POTUS who ignored warnings about appointing Micheal Flynn who 'forgot' to say he was working-to the tune of $500000, for the Turkish president, and therefore put the stop on a mission that had been in the planning for months to arm the Kurds to liberate Raqqa from ISIS, because the Turkish president objected to arming the Kurds, even though it would have saved civilians' lives?

Then that same POTUS admits to the Russians he sacked the director of the FBI to take the heat off him, after telling Lester Holt that was the reason too; after Pence and his other lackies tell the press it was because Clinton was disrespected by Comey last year although Trump had no problem with it then. Even now that Mueller has been appointed by the DAG (Who probably realises now that having 'Appointed DAG by President Trump' on his CV might be a useful omission for the future), there's the chance Trump may tell DAG to fire Mueller, and fire Rosenstein if he refuses.

But dvds.......yeah right.
As you learned recently the PKK (and associated sub-groups) is a proscribed terrorist organization by your Home Office and by our State Dept, without this changing and considering that Turkey is a NATO member it makes it very problematic, maybe illegal, to arm those Kurdish groups. Until that changes things have to be handled very carefully. Actually, according to some of the draconian laws these days, your support of the PKK possibly could be actionable. 

I don't agree with full Turkish NATO membership(especially with this latest "crack down" and them sending invading hordes of "refugees" to Europe and threatening to send more) or the status of the PKK, to an extent, and think the Kurds deserve their own country or at least a real autonomous district. But also don't like car bombs or attacks on civilians (by anyone, any side.)

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