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President Donald J. Trump

Started by The General, February 11, 2011, 01:33:34 AM

albrecht

Quote from: whoozit on May 19, 2017, 05:07:18 PM
I am all for impeachment now.  That is disgusting.  He probably puts ketchup on hotdogs too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDi4hiiozeI
I pulled this "on hot dog" bit on a neighbor's kid during an impromptu neighborhood bbq earlier when he wanted catsup for the hotdogs we got for the kids.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on May 19, 2017, 10:49:11 PM
Right. If it's InfoWars it's definitely a conspiracy. It's how Alex Jones pays his ex-wife.

But I'll agree there's a conspiracy against Trump--he's conspiring against himself to get thrown out of the WH. He doesn't need any help from the Dems or the deep whatever.

I can only assume the Trumpers either know they're trolling, cos they know Trump is a moron, or they too are fucking idiots and really believe Trump is a normal adult. Which throws into question their upbringing and life experiences.

albrecht

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on May 19, 2017, 05:23:59 PM
And if he had the capacity, he'd choose a prop over a glider. He's his own worse enemy.
Should put in that "drone" thread but can't find it, but you YP, and Art, might find interesting. And likely pervs and Muzzies with their stuff using drones.
http://thehill.com/policy/transportation/334233-appeals-court-strikes-down-federal-registration-rule-for-toy-drones

Meister_000

Quote from: Spy on May 19, 2017, 07:13:55 PM


"He was crazy, a real nut-job."
Says Trump of Comey.

Classic Projection/Transference !
the #1 speciality of The Für Reight ;-)

paladin1991

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on May 19, 2017, 07:52:33 AM
When the POTUS behaves like an asshole and drama queen in public and on Twitter, how can that be seen as "Media bias"?

Hmmmm.   He should save it for Bellgab? 

Lt.Uhura

It's unfair to say Trump doesn't like Muslims. He likes the rich ones.

President-elect Donald Trump registered eight companies during his presidential campaign that appear to be tied to hotel interests in Saudi Arabia, according to a report in The Washington Post.
Trump registered the companies in August 2015, shortly after launching his presidential bid, according to The Post...

During a rally on August 21, the day Trump created four of those companies, he said he gets along well with Saudi Arabia.
"They buy apartments from me," Trump said during the Alabama rally. "They spend $40 million, $50 million. Am I supposed to dislike them? I like them very much.”...


http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/306990-trump-appeared-to-register-eight-companies-in-saudi-arabia

Lt.Uhura

Quote from: Yorkshire Pudiphile on May 19, 2017, 11:08:46 PM
Hmmmm.   He should save it for Bellgab?

That's right, Mr. P. BellGab is a safe place for assholes and drama queens, but the White House--not so much.  :P

paladin1991

Quote from: whoozit on May 19, 2017, 05:07:18 PM
I am all for impeachment now.  That is disgusting.  He probably puts ketchup on hotdogs too.

https://youtu.be/Xz84GKxy7b0

albrecht

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on May 19, 2017, 11:14:56 PM
It's unfair to say Trump doesn't like Muslims. He likes the rich ones.

President-elect Donald Trump registered eight companies during his presidential campaign that appear to be tied to hotel interests in Saudi Arabia, according to a report in The Washington Post.
Trump registered the companies in August 2015, shortly after launching his presidential bid, according to The Post...

During a rally on August 21, the day Trump created four of those companies, he said he gets along well with Saudi Arabia.
"They buy apartments from me," Trump said during the Alabama rally. "They spend $40 million, $50 million. Am I supposed to dislike them? I like them very much.”...


http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/306990-trump-appeared-to-register-eight-companies-in-saudi-arabia
Again, I'm a bit confused. Supposedly Trump was the new Hitler, racist, xenophobe, Islamaphobia, etc. and Comey was awful for getting him elected and sinking Hillary. But now, he is bad for firing Comey and being friendly with those bad Muslims and having prominent Jews in his team?  :o He also is backing off of the "Jerusalem" for our embassy stuff, which, again conflicts everyone. Hilarious. Certainly he is "nuts," maybe he is, not playing the press and others in the media, and in both Parties, who go into conniptions with everything he does? Illegal immigration down by a lot, new Justice in place on the Court, etc- ha. And if he fails, walks away, impeached, etc as the media and Democrats want, we have Pence as President? That would be great for the left and "social issue" Hollywood crowd?  ;) Trump is far more liberal on those issues.   

albrecht

Quote from: Yorkshire Pudiphile on May 19, 2017, 11:26:27 PM

https://youtu.be/Xz84GKxy7b0
Great minds, but I still like the longer clip I posted. More of also a political sudden IMPACT  ;)

Lt.Uhura

Quote from: albrecht on May 19, 2017, 11:30:56 PM
Again, I'm a bit confused. Supposedly Trump was the new Hitler, racist, xenophobe, Islamaphobia, etc. and Comey was awful for getting him elected and sinking Hillary. But now, he is bad for firing Comey and being friendly with those bad Muslims and having prominent Jews in his team?  :o He also is backing off of the "Jerusalem" for our embassy stuff, which, again conflicts everyone. Hilarious. Certainly he is "nuts," maybe he is, not playing the press and others in the media, and in both Parties, who go into conniptions with everything he does? Illegal immigration down by a lot, new Justice in place on the Court, etc- ha. And if he fails, walks away, impeached, etc as the media and Democrats want, we have Pence as President? That would be great for the left and "social issue" Hollywood crowd?  ;) Trump is far more liberal on those issues.

I can't speak for others here but I'm not a Dem and of the candidates, my 2nd choice after Bernie would have been Kasich or another moderate who isn't a born again Christian, or insane. I guess the GOP liked Pence because he was so malleable. Maybe too malleable, if passively going along with Trump gets him thrown out too. If it is him, I doubt he'd get very far mixing church and state. Worst case scenario would be 3rd in line, that evil Ryan, who's determined to kill off old, poor, and working class Americans.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/17/john-kasich-hate-to-say-i-told-you-so-about-trump/

paladin1991

Quote from: albrecht on May 19, 2017, 11:32:55 PM
Great minds, but I still like the longer clip I posted. More of also a political sudden IMPACT  ;)
;)

albrecht

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on May 19, 2017, 11:48:55 PM
I can't speak for others here but I'm not a Dem and of the candidates, my 2nd choice after Bernie would have been Kasich or another moderate who isn't a born again Christian, or insane. I guess the GOP liked Pence because he was so malleable. Maybe too malleable, if passively going along with Trump gets him thrown out too. If it is him, I doubt he'd get very far mixing church and state. Worst case scenario would be 3rd in line, that evil Ryan, who's determined to kill off old, poor, and working class Americans.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/17/john-kasich-hate-to-say-i-told-you-so-about-trump/
It is a weird situation and times. Lots of the evil Christians, are supporting immigrants, hosting other religions etc prayer services and sheltering illegals and we have a new Hitler who is surrounded by Jews, even in his family. Strange days...haven't heard how many in Hollywood or DC, at least folks I know or on tv, sending their kids to public school or taking in "refugees." Even Obama, who sent his kids to an elite religious school (Quaker- but allowed armed security for his kids.) Obama recently added walls to his newly bought house. Odd.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on May 19, 2017, 10:46:51 PM
Why should he be taken notice of, when very many more former FBI, CIA, and WH staff (Rep and Dem) say Trump is batshit crazy? Be specific.

Why should people from those organizations be believed?! They specialize in bullshit and propaganda and many have shown themselves to be nothing but political hacks. Your argument by appeal to authority is weak and cuckish, just like you and your country.  :D

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on May 19, 2017, 10:49:11 PM
Right. If it's InfoWars it's definitely a conspiracy. It's how Alex Jones pays his ex-wife.

But I'll agree there's a conspiracy against Trump--he's conspiring against himself to get thrown out of the WH. He doesn't need any help from the Dems or the deep whatever.

Thrown out for what legal reason, honey?  ???

Meister_000

The Armada has arrived.  :D

Up All Night

Trump Will Probably Have a Great Trip to Saudi Arabia

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/05/trump-saudi-arabia/527334/

The past four U.S. presidents, when making their first trips abroad, traveled to either Canada or Mexico. Donald Trump, by contrast, will go to Saudi Arabiaâ€"to meet not only with the Saudi leadership but with other Gulf and Arab leaders.

This is a move by the anti-Obama. The former president’s relations with America’s traditional regional partners were strained, so what better way to advertise that you’re not the former president than to embrace them whole-heartedlyâ€"despite some of the pointed things you yourself said about them on the campaign trail.

As I have previously written, the Gulf Arabs are still excited about Donald Trump.

In the long term, though, the Arab states have to understand that America will not be in the region foreverâ€"at least not in today’s numbers. We have interests elsewhere, and finite resources to protect those interests. Also, putting it bluntly, ensuring Gulf hydrocarbon resources make their way to the market is less of a priority for the United States today than it was three decades ago.

By Andrew Exum - a contributing editor at The Atlantic. From 2015 to 2016, he was the U.S. deputy assistant secretary of defense for Middle East policy.


Meister_000

Book: The Fox Effect: How Roger Ailes Turned a Network into a Propaganda Machine
*2012* David Brock, Ari Rabin-Havt, Media Matters

". . . outright deception, saying something that you know to be untrue or have no basis for believing is true, is not journalism, it is propaganda.

It is critical that the media, Democrats, opinion makers of all stripes, and the public at large understand what Fox News is. Too-many reporters and commentators have continued to treat Fox as (i.e. as if it were) a news organization. By doing so, they enable the network to conduct a political campaign under the guise of a media outlet, influencing the outcome of legislative debates and elections.

2008 election only marked the beginning of a larger transition at the network, one that would see Fox News change from a network that provided a conservative outlook on the news _to_ an active and unapologetic (propaganda) mouthpiece for the Republican Party."
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https://www.amazon.com/Fox-Effect-Network-Propaganda-Machine-ebook/dp/B0051ANPQK/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1495267566&sr=8-1

Quote from: Meister_000 on May 20, 2017, 01:58:54 AM
Book: The Fox Effect: How Roger Ailes Turned a Network into a Propaganda Machine
*2012* David Brock, Ari Rabin-Havt, Media Matters

". . . outright deception, saying something that you know to be untrue or have no basis for believing is true, is not journalism, it is propaganda.

It is critical that the media, Democrats, opinion makers of all stripes, and the public at large understand what Fox News is. Too-many reporters and commentators have continued to treat Fox as (i.e. as if it were) a news organization. By doing so, they enable the network to conduct a political campaign under the guise of a media outlet, influencing the outcome of legislative debates and elections.

2008 election only marked the beginning of a larger transition at the network, one that would see Fox News change from a network that provided a conservative outlook on the news _to_ an active and unapologetic (propaganda) mouthpiece for the Republican Party."
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LOL.   David Brock.  Talk about a propaganda machine.  That book isn't even good to use as toilet paper. 

Quote from: Meister_000 on May 20, 2017, 01:58:54 AM
Book: The Fox Effect: How Roger Ailes Turned a Network into a Propaganda Machine
*2012* David Brock, Ari Rabin-Havt, Media Matters

". . . outright deception, saying something that you know to be untrue or have no basis for believing is true, is not journalism, it is propaganda.

It is critical that the media, Democrats, opinion makers of all stripes, and the public at large understand what Fox News is. Too-many reporters and commentators have continued to treat Fox as (i.e. as if it were) a news organization. By doing so, they enable the network to conduct a political campaign under the guise of a media outlet, influencing the outcome of legislative debates and elections.

2008 election only marked the beginning of a larger transition at the network, one that would see Fox News change from a network that provided a conservative outlook on the news _to_ an active and unapologetic (propaganda) mouthpiece for the Republican Party."
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https://www.amazon.com/Fox-Effect-Network-Propaganda-Machine-ebook/dp/B0051ANPQK/ref=tmm_kin_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1495267566&sr=8-1

The title of the book is false as well.  Roger Ailes was the CEO of Fox News from the moment of inception.  It was his baby from the beginning.  There was no turning.  Brock is such a hack.

Meister_000

Quote from: 21st Century Man on May 20, 2017, 02:04:24 AM
LOL.   David Brock.  Talk about a propaganda machine.  That book isn't even good to use as toilet paper.

So I take it you believe Fox _is_ a News outlet, i.e. fits the common definition of "Journalism"?

Let's run-by this one more time (because I know you didn't read nor comprehend the quotes I provided):

"Outright deception,
saying something you know to be untrue
or that you have no basis for believing is true, is not Journalism, it is Propaganda."

"Too-many reporters and commentators have continued to treat Fox as a news organization â€" it is not."

PERIOD

And try to understand, this book was published in 2012!  The jig was up long ago.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Meister_000 on May 20, 2017, 02:33:59 AM
"Too-many reporters and commentators have continued to treat Fox as a news organization â€" it is not."

PERIOD

Neither are you or your "news" sources so STFU, you hysterical ninny!  ::)

P.S. I get that you're having your period.  :D


Meister_000

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on May 20, 2017, 02:59:48 AM
Neither are you or your "news" sources so STFU, you hysterical ninny!


"Fox News began with a simple concept: build a network based on the triumph of conservative talk radio." -- The Fox Effect

So what you're sayin, MD, is that you think "conservative talk radio" is Journalism? Just like you think YouTube is Journalism you mean?


Spy



NATO Secretary-General to a former senior official: Trump “has a 12-second attention span.”

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/05/19/trump-middle-east-trip-saudi-arabia-215163


Meister_000

Quote from: 21st Century Man on May 20, 2017, 02:17:03 AM
The title of the book is false as well.  Roger Ailes was the CEO of Fox News from the moment of inception.  It was his baby from the beginning.  There was no turning.  Brock is such a hack.

Half-wit! All that title is saying is that _he succeeded_ (eventually) at making Fox the *FULL BLOWN* CONSERVATIVE PROPAGANDA MACHINE he could only have deamed-of/hoped-for initially. Fucking Imbecile! 

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on May 20, 2017, 01:23:45 AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTvmbTWpoe0
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on May 20, 2017, 12:17:57 AM
Why should people from those organizations be believed?! They specialize in bullshit and propaganda and many have shown themselves to be nothing but political hacks. Your argument by appeal to authority is weak and cuckish, just like you and your country.  :D
::)


Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Spy on May 20, 2017, 06:53:44 AM


NATO Secretary-General to a former senior official: Trump “has a 12-second attention span.”

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/05/19/trump-middle-east-trip-saudi-arabia-215163

From the same article:

The dominant reaction to Trump right now is mockery,” Jacob Heilbrunn, the editor of the conservative journal the National Interest, told the meeting at the German Foreign Office here while moderating a panel on Trump’s foreign policy that dealt heavily on the difficulty of divining an actual policy amid the spectacle. Heilbrunn, whose publication hosted Trump’s inaugural foreign policy speech in Washington during last year’s campaign, used the ‘L’ word too. “The Trump administration is becoming an international laughingstock.” Michael Werz, a German expert from the liberal U.S. think tank Center for American Progress, agreed, adding he was struck by “how rapidly the American brand is depreciating over the last 20 weeks.”


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