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Yorkshire pud

Quote from: albrecht on May 15, 2017, 10:54:48 AM
At least the Podesta "art" wasn't his own kids, even if underage or close to it. But this is weird, even though she is an adult and obviously consented to pose for the photograph why would a dad send it out? And then get into flame wars over it with the public's response to the creepy factor? The guy is a lawyer, presumably he would think before tweeting randomly and sending our pictures of his scantily-clad daughter?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/05/15/trump-attorney-michael-cohen-tweets-photo-of-his-college-aged-daughter-in-lingerie/
http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/trump-lawyer-posts-sexy-lingerie-pic-of-his-daughter-and-twitter-responded-as-youd-expect/

Good photo, but he should have really thought it through before posting it in his name. One thing if she'd done it or the photographer, but doesn't look good that he did, no matter how innocently. Silly man.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on May 15, 2017, 12:27:38 PM
Good photo, but he should have really thought it through before posting it in his name. One thing if she'd done it or the photographer, but doesn't look good that he did, no matter how innocently. Silly man.

Is she or does she aspire to be a model?  If so then it's very possible that these photos are part of her portfolio which is circulated to potential clients and contain all kinds of shots in various poses and costumes.  Her father may have viewed these photos as something that could appear in a catalogue or a magazine ad and are not in themselves off color or suggestive.  Was it a prudent move given he is one of Trump's legal representative?  Probably not but inferring from those pictures that he is hot for his daughter is asinine. 


starrmtn001

WATCH President Donald Trump Speech At The Annual National Peace Officers Memorial 5/15/2017.

https://youtu.be/L9jHTznocyo

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on May 15, 2017, 12:47:18 PM
Is she or does she aspire to be a model?  If so then it's very possible that these photos are part of her portfolio which is circulated to potential clients and contain all kinds of shots in various poses and costumes.  Her father may have viewed these photos as something that could appear in a catalogue or a magazine ad and are not in themselves off color or suggestive.  Was it a prudent move given he is one of Trump's legal representative?  Probably not but inferring from those pictures that he is hot for his daughter is asinine.

Many years ago in the UK was a topless model (no head  ;D) in the newspapers, called Samantha Fox. Her father reputedly used to sit in on shoots, now THAT was wrong. So very wrong. Wronger than a wrong thing. Having said that, his mates would be looking at his daughter's tits the next day or so.

I have mixed feelings about this lawyer posting the photos as I've in a past life been the photographer. But 'work' mode not viewer. I know that sounds strange.


albrecht

Quote from: malachi.martini 🍸 on May 15, 2017, 01:25:33 PM


At first I thought it was some kind of urban dance move but upon viewing I guess it is just an odd way to fight? But I'm still not really sure what is going on there. It gives me a headache watching her spin though. I did note the prime instigator had on an Egyptian shirt. They were kings, you know.

pyewacket

Is this 'dance form' covered by the ACA? It looks like someone's going to need a trip to the ER.  :o



Yorkshire pud

Never mind, no harm done eh?

[https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/530c172a-3960-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-high_trumpintel-0504pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.f70019a9a457
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The president’s disclosures to the Russian foreign minister and ambassador in their Oval Office meeting last week jeopardized a critical source of intelligence on the Islamic State â€" an information-sharing arrangement considered so sensitive that details have been withheld from allies and tightly restricted even within the U.S. government, current and former U.S. officials said. Trump appeared to be boasting of the “great intel” he receives when he described a looming terror threat, according to an official with knowledge of the exchange. As president, Trump has broad authority to declassify government secrets, making it unlikely that his disclosures broke the law.


President Trump revealed highly classified information to the Russian foreign minister and ambassador in a White House meeting last week, according to current and former U.S. officials, who said Trump’s disclosures jeopardized a critical source of intelligence on the Islamic State.

The information the president relayed had been provided by a U.S. partner through an intelligence-sharing arrangement considered so sensitive that details have been withheld from allies and tightly restricted even within the U.S. government, officials said.

The partner had not given the United States permission to share the material with Russia, and officials said Trump’s decision to do so endangers cooperation from an ally that has access to the inner workings of the Islamic State. After Trump’s meeting, senior White House officials took steps to contain the damage, placing calls to the CIA and the National Security Agency.


“This is code-word information,” said a U.S. official familiar with the matter, using terminology that refers to one of the highest classification levels used by American spy agencies. Trump “revealed more information to the Russian ambassador than we have shared with our own allies.”


Apparently a present staffer immediately told the CIA and the NSA. The WP are deliberately being vague about the precise details as the info that the giddy Trump told the Russians is hyper sensitive. Trump will blame the leaker to the press (An annoyed spook being told he works in a nazi organisation?) certainly not the fact he should have kept his fat fucking mouth shut.

Juan

McMaster is about to speak.  The more I hear, the more I think Trump is trolling the Post.

Catsmile

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on May 15, 2017, 03:30:32 PM
Never mind, no harm done eh?

[https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/530c172a-3960-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-high_trumpintel-0504pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.f70019a9a457

Apparently a present staffer immediately told the CIA and the NSA. The WP are deliberately being vague about the precise details as the info that the giddy Trump told the Russians is hyper sensitive. Trump will blame the leaker to the press (An annoyed spook being told he works in a nazi organisation?) certainly not the fact he should have kept his fat fucking mouth shut.

           In USA they LULZ at internet.

         In Russia internet LULZ at USA!

albrecht

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on May 15, 2017, 03:30:32 PM
Never mind, no harm done eh?

[https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/530c172a-3960-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-high_trumpintel-0504pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.f70019a9a457
Apparently a present staffer immediately told the CIA and the NSA. The WP are deliberately being vague about the precise details as the info that the giddy Trump told the Russians is hyper sensitive. Trump will blame the leaker to the press (An annoyed spook being told he works in a nazi organisation?) certainly not the fact he should have kept his fat fucking mouth shut.
Everyone a NAZI to those on the left.  :o (Even though the NAZI defined themselves as a lefty party in their very name and social welfare policy- if you were "german" enough.) But back to Trump and the evil Russians who are also NAZIs (despite them celebrating their victory over Germany every year with big parades and Trump having Jews in his administration, business partners, lawyers, and family) if whatever "leaks" help Russians, and us, fight military Islam (is their any other kind, really though once numbers are large enough) and if it was approved of a proper authority I'm fine with it. Where was Amazon's Washington Post when Obama sent Iran billions to get a few hostages and to help them develop nuclear capacity? (Though, thinking over long term, I would rather deal with Persians than the Arabs, at least they had a history and culture pre-Islam and pre-oil/gas boom. The fake "royals" we support in the Gulf States had none and support most of the spread of Islam and of the most militant type.) Where was Amazon's Washington Post when the Obama administration was hacked and now the NSA "tools" are causing problems even in your loved NHS? Of course, it was the NAZIs Russians, even though systems and companies are also getting locked by the "tool."

I withhold a lot of criticism of Trump (he is way too soft on immigration, he is too willing to get involved in foreign wars and actions, he believes too much in Executive and Federal power, and lastly supports- or at least it seems- for private prisons and asset forfeiture laws before conviction) but considered all that is against him (the media, Hollywood, career bureaucrats, leftover from Obama era hires, and most of the Inside the Beltway 'system' or racket) and the other choice at the end, Billary, I still will support him and give him credit for some good wins (Gorsuch, less illegals coming because they fear getting caught, some deportations and arrests of criminals, some of his appointees, etc.)

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Juan on May 15, 2017, 03:55:46 PM
McMaster is about to speak.  The more I hear, the more I think Trump is trolling the Post.

I sincerely hope you're right. The alternative is the probability that embedded informants workng in very hostile areas will be killed and their invaluble information is lost, for good. Way to go Donny.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: albrecht on May 15, 2017, 04:04:51 PM
Everyone a NAZI to those on the left.

Trump said the CIA were runnng a Nazi system. Not me.

Juan

McMaster says he was in the room and that the Post story "as reported" is not true.
Whatever that means.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Juan on May 15, 2017, 04:11:00 PM
McMaster says he was in the room and that the Post story "as reported" is not true.
Whatever that means.

He was very careful and specific what he said. He didn't address the content of the Post article. This will run.

Lt.Uhura

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on May 15, 2017, 03:30:32 PM

Apparently a present staffer immediately told the CIA and the NSA. The WP are deliberately being vague about the precise details as the info that the giddy Trump told the Russians is hyper sensitive. Trump will blame the leaker to the press (An annoyed spook being told he works in a nazi organisation?) certainly not the fact he should have kept his fat fucking mouth shut.

Trump can complain about leaks and leakers all he wants, but when does a leaker become a whistleblower? A whistleblower is typically seen as a hero rather than the negative connotation of a "leaker" or snitch.

For example, Wells Fargo got away with fraud for quite a while by internally covering leaks that might have revealed their wrongdoing. In fact they even had a whistleblower line to report such abuses, but people reporting it were fired and the dirt was kept concealed.

America needs employees with a moral compass, whether in governmental or private sector jobs, to be able to safely report potential malfeasance and abuses of power without fear of retribution. If I were in a position of power and had nothing to hide, I would welcome an audit or inspection, not thwart or criticize it.

A whistleblower (also written as whistle-blower or whistle blower) is a person who exposes any kind of information or activity that is deemed illegal, unethical, or not correct within an organization that is either private or public. The information of alleged wrongdoing can be classified in many ways: violation of company policy/rules, law, regulation, or threat to public interest/national security, as well as fraud, and corruption.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whistleblower


Juan

The president can declassify whatever he wants.  The Washington Post can legally publish whatever information they have that they say they have not printed.
Stay tuned, as Art would say

GNS

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Juan on May 15, 2017, 04:22:42 PM
The president can declassify whatever he wants.  The Washington Post can legally publish whatever information they have that they say they have not printed.
Stay tuned, as Art would say

GNS

That the WP choose not to speaks volumes. That they have more consideration to the very brave people who work in friendly intelligence than Trump does. Trump might have the right to declassify whatever he wshes, but that doesn't mean he should do. He has no integrity. He shoots his mouth because it satisfies his ego, not because its good for you.

GravitySucks

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on May 15, 2017, 04:06:52 PM
I sincerely hope you're right. The alternative is the probability that embedded informants workng in very hostile areas will be killed and their invaluble information is lost, for good. Way to go Donny.

Numerous organizations had previously reported that the laptop battery ban was based on intel discovered in the Yemen raid.

Jackstar

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on May 15, 2017, 04:08:39 PM
Not me.

I don't think it is plausible to imagine that you either know what you're talking about or aren't lying about it.

Zetaspeak

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on May 15, 2017, 04:12:42 PM
He was very careful and specific what he said. He didn't address the content of the Post article. This will run.

That's what I notice. What they claim specific was false wasn't even part os the actual story. Mcmaster mentioned sources weren't reveal but the story mentioned that information was revealed.

albrecht

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on May 15, 2017, 04:06:52 PM
I sincerely hope you're right. The alternative is the probability that embedded informants workng in very hostile areas will be killed and their invaluble information is lst, for good. Way to go Donny.
Most of our enemies, or potential enemies, already have access to much of our secrets, including SS#s, addresses, names of family members, and even in some cases fingerprints due to all the hacks under Obama, the open server and unsecured comms by Hillary, and the general problems of leaks, spies, hacks, "whistle-blowers," and technology. Heck, even just basic mid-level government bureaucrats and enlistees were hacked under Obama in many different hacks under his aegis- especially the OPM hack but also all the others. Under Obama even a whole lot of "form 86s" SF86 the data for anyone getting a security clearance have been leaked, this contains personal information. Not to mention Snowden, Manning, and the other traitor/whistle-blowers, depending on your view, under Obama. Obama recently commuted Manning's sentence  because despite the damage done and being a traitor, or maybe because of it(?), Manning changed gendered and earned a special place in his heart, I guess.  ;) Right now the NSA "tools" are wrecking havoc on businesses, people, and government worldwide due to hacks that occurred under Obama. Obama's lack of proper security even caused problems at your beloved NHS!

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Jackstar on May 15, 2017, 04:28:56 PM
I don't think it is plausible to imagine that you either know what you're talking about or aren't lying about it.

Micheal. You know the time you got chatted up by that (admittedly convincing) transvestite in the bar and took your virginity? You remember how you were scared at first but learned to love it? That time is now for you. Again.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Zetaspeak on May 15, 2017, 04:31:23 PM
That's what I notice. What they claim specific was false wasn't even part os the actual story. Mcmaster mentioned sources weren't reveal but the story mentioned that information was revealed.

I'm sure you'll get to the bottom of it one day, Perry Mason.  ::)

Maybe you'll even come up with some phony poll results about it.  :D

albrecht

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on May 15, 2017, 04:14:34 PM
Trump can complain about leaks and leakers all he wants, but when does a leaker become a whistleblower? A whistleblower is typically seen as a hero rather than the negative connotation of a "leaker" or snitch.

For example, Wells Fargo got away with fraud for quite a while by internally covering leaks that might have revealed their wrongdoing. In fact they even had a whistleblower line to report such abuses, but people reporting it were fired and the dirt was kept concealed.

America needs employees with a moral compass, whether in governmental or private sector jobs, to be able to safely report potential malfeasance and abuses of power without fear of retribution. If I were in a position of power and had nothing to hide, I would welcome an audit or inspection, not thwart or criticize it.

A whistleblower (also written as whistle-blower or whistle blower) is a person who exposes any kind of information or activity that is deemed illegal, unethical, or not correct within an organization that is either private or public. The information of alleged wrongdoing can be classified in many ways: violation of company policy/rules, law, regulation, or threat to public interest/national security, as well as fraud, and corruption.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whistleblower
When it comes to National Security issues it does become a matter of perspective. A lot of people, on the far-right and far-left think all the leakers under Obama were heroes: Snowden, Manning, etc. According to the "law" and according to the government, including Obama's government, they are traitors or criminals. According to most organizations Obama was the worst administration with regard to the treatment of whistle-blowers and transparency. But Trump might be trying to beat his record. We will see.

ItsOver

Quote from: albrecht on May 15, 2017, 04:33:32 PM
Most of our enemies, or potential enemies, already have access to much of our secrets, including SS#s, addresses, names of family members, and even in some cases fingerprints due to all the hacks under Obama, the open server and unsecured comms by Hillary, and the general problems of leaks, spies, hacks, "whistle-blowers," and technology. Heck, even just basic mid-level government bureaucrats and enlistees were hacked under Obama in many different hacks under his aegis- especially the OPM hack but also all the others. Under Obama even a whole lot of "form 86s" SF86 the data for anyone getting a security clearance have been leaked, this contains personal information. Not to mention Snowden, Manning, and the other traitor/whistle-blowers, depending on your view, under Obama. Obama recently commuted Manning's sentence  because despite the damage done and being a traitor, or maybe because of it(?), Manning changed gendered and earned a special place in his heart, I guess.  ;) Right now the NSA "tools" are wrecking havoc on businesses, people, and government worldwide due to hacks that occurred under Obama. Obama's lack of proper security even caused problems at your beloved NHS!
Thanks to the last eight years, the ChiComs and the evil Rooskies probably know as much or more than NSA. 

ItsOver

Quote from: albrecht on May 15, 2017, 04:33:32 PM
Most of our enemies, or potential enemies, already have access to much of our secrets, including SS#s, addresses, names of family members, and even in some cases fingerprints due to all the hacks under Obama, the open server and unsecured comms by Hillary, and the general problems of leaks, spies, hacks, "whistle-blowers," and technology. Heck, even just basic mid-level government bureaucrats and enlistees were hacked under Obama in many different hacks under his aegis- especially the OPM hack but also all the others. Under Obama even a whole lot of "form 86s" SF86 the data for anyone getting a security clearance have been leaked, this contains personal information. Not to mention Snowden, Manning, and the other traitor/whistle-blowers, depending on your view, under Obama. Obama recently commuted Manning's sentence  because despite the damage done and being a traitor, or maybe because of it(?), Manning changed gendered and earned a special place in his heart, I guess.  ;) Right now the NSA "tools" are wrecking havoc on businesses, people, and government worldwide due to hacks that occurred under Obama. Obama's lack of proper security even caused problems at your beloved NHS!
Thanks to the last eight years, the ChiComs and the evil Rooskies probably know as much or more than NSA. 

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: albrecht on May 15, 2017, 04:33:32 PM
Most of our enemies, or potential enemies, already have access to much of our secrets, including SS#s, addresses, names of family members, and even in some cases fingerprints due to all the hacks under Obama, the open server and unsecured comms by Hillary, and the general problems of leaks, spies, hacks, "whistle-blowers," and technology. Heck, even just basic mid-level government bureaYucrats and enlistees were hacked under Obama in many different hacks under his aegis- especially the OPM hack but also all the others. Under Obama even a whole lot of "form 86s" SF86 the data for anyone getting a security clearance have been leaked, this contains personal information. Not to mention Snowden, Manning, and the other traitor/whistle-blowers, depending on your view, under Obama. Obama recently commuted Manning's sentence  because despite the damage done and being a traitor, or maybe because of it(?), Manning changed gendered and earned a special place in his heart, I guess.  ;) Right now the NSA "tools" are wrecking havoc on businesses, people, and government worldwide due to hacks that occurred under Obama. Obama's lack of proper security even caused problems at your beloved NHS!

Is the above a defence for Trump?

Just asking.

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