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Meister_000

Former CIA Director Comey is held in the absolute highest regard.

https://twitter.com/MikeyKayNYC/status/862697910856818688

Quote from: Meister_000 on May 12, 2017, 03:10:16 AM
Former CIA Director Comey is held in the absolute highest regard.

https://twitter.com/MikeyKayNYC/status/862697910856818688

LOL.  You dems are such partisan hacks.   You contradict yourselves from day to day, month to month and year to year.

Last year, you couldn't scream loud enough that Comey needed to be fired but now since Trump fired him, you say that Comey was a great director.  Which is it or are you just talking bullshit?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRcEPffljGw

Meister_000

In 2017 TRUMP is Problem-One

Quote from: Meister_000 on May 12, 2017, 03:27:23 AM
In 2017 TRUMP is Problem-One


You don't want anyone to hold you accountable.  I see.  lol.  That would be like Hitler saying in the bunker,  "I didn't order any Jews to be killed today or even yesterday.  I love the Jews now!"  You can't have your cake and eat it too.

ItsOver

Quote from: 21st Century Man on May 12, 2017, 03:31:30 AM

You don't want anyone to hold you accountable.  I see.  lol.  That would be like Hitler saying in the bunker,  "I didn't order any Jews to be killed today or even yesterday.  I love the Jews now!"  You can't have your cake and eat it too.
Liberalism is indeed a mental disorder.

Quote from: ItsOver on May 12, 2017, 04:38:04 AM
Liberalism is indeed a mental disorder.

Yep.  I get sick and tired of the double standards and hypocrisy.

ItsOver

Quote from: 21st Century Man on May 12, 2017, 05:06:58 AM
Yep.  I get sick and tired of the double standards and hypocrisy.
That's why you won't find me much on ANY political thread.  Well, not at least as much as The Pud.  It's more of a waste of time than shit-posting on the GNS thread.  You may as well be trying to be rational with the residents of the local institution.


Quote from: ItsOver on May 12, 2017, 05:42:45 AM
That's why you won't find me much on ANY political thread.  Well, not at least as much as The Pud.  It's more of a waste of time than shit-posting on the GNS thread.  You may as well be trying to be rational with the residents of the local institution.



LOL. I know.  I don't post on these threads like I used to.  Better to shitpost on the Noory thread or write a review of a film.  Sometimes a person needs to be put in their place though.

Meister_000

Oy!  for the Love of God -- HELP US be done with this Menacing LOON!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/863007411132649473

Quote from: Meister_000 on May 12, 2017, 06:18:12 AM
Oy!  for the Love of God -- HELP US be done with this Menacing LOON!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/863007411132649473

Meister, I couldn't pick more apt words to write about you!   Well-Done! ;D ;)

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Meister_000 on May 11, 2017, 07:39:23 PM
FFS, you retarded senile fags and "Hillary's Emails" bull-shit!

Oh my goodness! Must you be so VILE? Don't you realize that you are not only considered to be a representative of LGBT community but, as a victim yourself, you have become the poster girl for the drive to stamp out Crueutzfeldt-Jacob (Mad Cow) Disease that's slogan is "Loss of a Mind and Bowel Control is a Terrible Thing."  Please, think of those for whom you speak.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: 21st Century Man on May 12, 2017, 03:16:41 AM
LOL.  You dems are such partisan hacks.   You contradict yourselves from day to day, month to month and year to year.

Take any partisan opinion out of it. The sequence of events (and the various and different stories put out by Trump and staff) about Comey's firing don't pass the stinky fish test. First we're told Jeff Sessons and Rod Rosenstein advised Trump to fire Comey because he had messed up with the Clinton episode last year that they felt (apparently indepedently at the same time) put Clinton in a bad light. They took this quickly arrived meeting of minds to Trump who mulled it over and agreed that Clinton had been wronged and instructed a staffer to tell the press pool first Comey was out;  Not having the common decency to tell Comey first who found out when it was on tv screens behind him when he was talking to staffers in LA.

And all that, though completely crass, unprofessional and beneath contempt would in itself leave a bad taste at the FBI, got a whole lot worse when it was revealed Trump had decided to fire Comey, before telling the AG and DAG to type up a page or so explaining why they thought (at the same time remember!) Comey should go. Trump compounded it by adding the paragraph about Comey allegedly exonerating Trump completely, which he repeated yesterday in a TV interview. His obviously made up story would be endearing if he was five, but this is the POTUS.

And then it got worse. The WH poodles piled n and said that not only did the FBI staff want Comey out, but anyone and everyone they could think of; Trump doing his usual thing and attacking Comey's integrity. Bearing in mind that everything Comey was allegedly fired for, was known before Trump was elected. Trump then mentioned the Russa investigation (to which Comey had asked The DAG the day before for more resources) also being a factor in deciding Comey' fate.

In summary then, we have an AG who had recused himself from the investigation that he and the DAG fired the head of the FBI who was leading said investigation from. Allegedly because of Clinton, although Trump now says the Russian investigation was a factor in the sacking, alleging that Comey had reassured him three times that Trump wasn't under investigation. The WH alleging that the FBI staff wanted Comey out has also been disputed by the acting director and numerous staff at the FBI, all of whom say Comey was highly respected and a man of high integrity Oh, it was also revealed that in January after reappointing Comey, Trump asked Comey to pledge an oath of loyalty to Trump.

Trump and the WH have lied once too many. And it will soon be over for Trump.



Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Meister_000 on May 12, 2017, 06:18:12 AM
Oy!  for the Love of God -- HELP US be done with this Menacing LOON!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/863007411132649473

Looks a lot like a threat to me. Blackmail?

Zetaspeak

Quote from: 21st Century Man on May 12, 2017, 03:21:40 AM
Last year, you couldn't scream loud enough that Comey needed to be fired but now since Trump fired him, you say that Comey was a great director.  Which is it or are you just talking bullshit?

So you would have been okay if Obama fired him in the middle of the Clinton email investigation? You guys would have had a fit! You can scream "You wanted" all you want, but he wasn't fired when the investigation was on a Obama ally, but was when the investigation was on Trump. Speaking of double speak, I sure as hell saw a lot from Republicans last year.

Quote from: Meister_000 on May 12, 2017, 06:18:12 AM
Oy!  for the Love of God -- HELP US be done with this Menacing LOON!

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/863007411132649473

Now for your daily, "Totally not like Nixon" report



Meister_000

FBI's Law Enforcement Bulletin (September 2009):
"Our Oath of Office A Solemn Promise"

"It is significant that we take an Oath to support and defend the Constitution and *not* an individual Leader, Ruler, Office, or Entity."

Juan

Meister and the other Russia-Truthers are very interesting studies. Their entire 2017 meme indicates that they care nothing about history and learn nothing from it.  They have just learned things that others have known for many years - the Russians are not our best friends, we take oaths to the Constitution rather than an individual.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Juan on May 12, 2017, 07:21:00 AM
Meister and the other Russia-Truthers are Trump is a very interesting study. Their His entire 2017 meme indicates that they he cares nothing about history and has learnt nothing from it.  They He hasn't learned things that others have known for many years - the Russians are not our best friends, we take oaths to the Constitution rather than an individual.

FIFY
;)

Yorkshire pud

And if making veiled threats to Comey wasn't enough, Trump has said his press staffers can't be expected to get the story straight. Therefore he's posed whether press briefings should be cancelled, and instead a typed up pack of lies handed out instead; At least they'll be on the, erm, same page I guess.

Juan

What's veiled about it?

Zetaspeak

Quote from: Juan on May 12, 2017, 07:21:00 AM
Meister and the other Russia-Truthers are very interesting studies. Their entire 2017 meme indicates that they care nothing about history and learn nothing from it.  They have just learned things that others have known for many years - the Russians are not our best friends, we take oaths to the Constitution rather than an individual.

Considering there's talk that Trump is asking people to take "loyalty pledges" to him. Maybe you should pass that along to him and his supporters. 

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Juan on May 12, 2017, 07:40:43 AM
What's veiled about it?

I was being generous. Coming after Trump undermined the carefully orcestrated paper trail put out before Trump couldn't help himself and forgot it wasn't another tedious episode of Apprentice. The hint that he might have acted on a recommendation from the newly installed DAG was too much for him. Its all about Donny. And his undoing.

Meister_000

Quote from: Zetaspeak on May 12, 2017, 06:53:49 AM

Now for your daily, "Totally not like Nixon" report



Last night I read four different articles (NYTimes, WaPo, New Yorker, Politico) all of which essentially agreed that this is potentially *worse* than Nixon/Watergate because Trump has Zero integrity, Zero respect for the Institution, no knowledge of Government or History, AND is a nut-job on top of it, and capable of doing almost anything.  i.e. this can get much worse yet (escalate) because he does have so much power to abuse if he chooses/needs to. He also has the House and Senate (Nixon didn't) and alt/fake-Media (and wack-job Trumpkins) to support him (which obviously didn't exist in 1973). So no matter what happens to Trump personally, it could get very bad, much worse, for "The People" and for "Democracy" in general before it's over.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on May 12, 2017, 06:50:36 AM
Take any partisan opinion out of it. The sequence of events (and the various and different stories put out by Trump and staff) about Comey's firing don't pass the stinky fish test. First we're told Jeff Sessons and Rod Rosenstein advised Trump to fire Comey because he had messed up with the Clinton episode last year that they felt (apparently indepedently at the same time) put Clinton in a bad light. They took this quickly arrived meeting of minds to Trump who mulled it over and agreed that Clinton had been wronged and instructed a staffer to tell the press pool first Comey was out;  Not having the common decency to tell Comey first who found out when it was on tv screens behind him when he was talking to staffers in LA.

And all that, though completely crass, unprofessional and beneath contempt would in itself leave a bad taste at the FBI, got a whole lot worse when it was revealed Trump had decided to fire Comey, before telling the AG and DAG to type up a page or so explaining why they thought (at the same time remember!) Comey should go. Trump compounded it by adding the paragraph about Comey allegedly exonerating Trump completely, which he repeated yesterday in a TV interview. His obviously made up story would be endearing if he was five, but this is the POTUS.

And then it got worse. The WH poodles piled n and said that not only did the FBI staff want Comey out, but anyone and everyone they could think of; Trump doing his usual thing and attacking Comey's integrity. Bearing in mind that everything Comey was allegedly hfired for, was known before Trump was elected. Trump then mentioned the Russa investigation (to which Comey had asked The DAG the day before for more resources) also being a factor in deciding Comey' fate.

In summary then, we have an AG who had recused himself from the investigation that he and the DAG fired the head of the FBI who was leading said investigation from. Allegedly because of Clinton, although Trump now says the Russian investigation was a factor in the sacking, alleging that Comey had reassured him three times that Trump wasn't under investigation. The WH alleging that the FBI staff wanted Comey out has also been disputed by the acting director and numerous staff at the FBI, all of whom say Comey was highly respected and a man of high integrity Oh, it was also revealed that in January after reappointing Comey, Trump asked Comey to pledge an oath of loyalty to Trump.

Trump and the WH have lied once too many. And it will soon be over for Trump.

The DAG has denied that Comey asked him for additional resources for the Russian investigation. The Loyalty Oath thing is also bullshit and the rest of your points are based on biased conjecture..  Trump is guilty of executing the firing clumsily but Dems have reached new highs in dishonesty, duplicity and hypocracy. 

Your selective fault finding triggers one's gag reflex.  Comey screwed many, many pooches and the Dems have been calling for his scalp since last July.  If Trump had come in on 20 January with guns blazing and fired Comey with none of his appointees in place to render an evaluation of Comey's performance you and all other Trump haters would have gone ape shit and demanded that he be drawn and quartered. 

All that aside, how do you imagine any ongoing investigations will be affected by the firing and how do you suppose Trump stands to gain from firing Comey now rather than later?  Did you not see Comey's recent testimony in which he doubled down on his stupidity.  Did you not read the DAG's memo. (OBTW, the DAG has denied having any problem with Trump citing and including his report in his letter to Comey so don't even go there.) Please try to answer with some degree of specificity and not segue into Trump's weekend recreation or his relationship with his daughter.  . 




Meister_000

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on May 12, 2017, 06:51:52 AM
Looks a lot like a threat to me. Blackmail?

It's just over the top and over the line. Maybe he's trying to see how many counts of "obstruction of justice" he can rack-up in a single week! (and the day isn't over yet, and weekend outbursts are common enough too). The folks at the FBI, CIA, etc can only be shaking their heads in disbelief and disgust, such outrageous insanity, day after day. Such an insult, an affront, a mockery, an embarrassment. Too much.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Meister_000 on May 12, 2017, 07:54:39 AM
Last night I read four different articles (NYTimes, WaPo, New Yorker, Politico) all of which essentially agreed that this is potentially *worse* than Nixon/Watergate because Trump has Zero integrity, Zero respect for the Institution, no knowledge of Government or History, AND is a nut-job on top of it, and capable of doing almost anything.  i.e. this can get much worse yet (escalate) because he does have so much power to abuse if he chooses/needs to. He also has the House and Senate (Nixon didn't) and alt/fake-Media (and wack-job Trumpkins) to support him (which obviously didn't exist in 1973). So no matter what happens to Trump personally, it could get very bad, much worse, for "The People" and for "Democracy" in general before it's over.

There she goes again.  The shit slingers that she cites have zero fucking credibility with any one other than other shit slingers who are all halfwit leftists like her. 

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on May 12, 2017, 08:03:15 AM
The DAG has denied that Comey asked him for additional resources for the Russian investigation. The Loyalty Oath thing is also bullshit and the rest of your points are based on biased conjecture..  Trump is guilty of executing the firing clumsily but Dems have reached new highs in dishonesty, duplicity and hypocracy. 

Your selective fault finding triggers one's gag reflex.  Comey screwed many, many pooches and the Dems have been calling for his scalp since last July.  If Trump had come in on 20 January with guns blazing and fired Comey with none of his appointees in place to render an evaluation of Comey's performance you and all other Trump haters would have gone ape shit and demanded that he be drawn and quartered. 

All that aside, how do you imagine any ongoing investigations will be affected by the firing and how do you suppose Trump stands to gain from firing Comey now rather than later?  Did you not see Comey's recent testimony in which he doubled down on his stupidity.  Did you not read the DAG's memo. (OBTW, the DAG has denied having any problem with Trump citing and including his report in his letter to Comey so don't even go there.) Please try to answer with some degree of specificity and not segue into Trump's weekend recreation or his relationship with his daughter.  .

Well you didn't mention Clinton at least. If you seriously think that Trump doesn't believe firing Comey (Which he now says was only his doing and not the DAG) would end the Russian investigation you should rent out the cloud you live on in cuckoo land. You, me and normal people know it isn't over, but Trump isn't normal. He really thinks he is the supreme being and above any criticism, blame, responsibility or accountability. Anything and everything he blames on others.

Zetaspeak

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on May 12, 2017, 08:03:15 AM
The Loyalty Oath thing is also bullshit and the rest of your points are based on biased conjecture..

It certainly a question I'd be interested being answered if/when Comey testifies.

Quote from: Meister_000 on May 12, 2017, 08:15:22 AM
It's just over the top and over the line. Maybe he's trying to see how many counts of "obstruction of justice" he can rack-up in a single week!

Remember how much Trump and his supporters kicked and screamed when Bill Clinton met with Lynch of a few seconds. Trump says he had dinner with Comey and asked specifics about the investigation against him and his campaign, silence.


Taaroa

Quote from: Meister_000 on May 12, 2017, 07:54:39 AM
Last night I read four different articles (NYTimes, WaPo, New Yorker, Politico) all of which essentially agreed that this is potentially *worse* than Nixon/Watergate because Trump has Zero integrity, Zero respect for the Institution, no knowledge of Government or History, AND is a nut-job on top of it, and capable of doing almost anything.

It doesn't have the catchy name that Watergate had and which the media so loved, so it's nowhere near as bad.  ::)

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