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President Donald J. Trump

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GravitySucks

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on April 26, 2017, 08:42:50 PM
No?
Trump agrees 'not to terminate NAFTA at this time'

www.cnn.com/2017/04/26/politics/trump-nafta/index.html

Wasn't NAFTA another 'must get rid of' pledge that Trump campaigned on?

I don't remember him saying he would get rid of it... Just renegotiate it. Like the article says.

RoseGirl

Quote from: GravitySucks on April 26, 2017, 08:52:29 PM
I don't remember him saying he would get rid of it... Just renegotiate it. Like the article says.

Yeah, he's making little squeaking noises about trashing nafta...but he's just trying to look tough for his peeps, I think.


I wonder if Pud sleeps with his phone's browser settled on Bellgab so he dares not miss a post. lol

RoseGirl

Quote from: 21st Century Man on April 26, 2017, 09:01:37 PM
I wonder if Pud sleeps with his phone's browser settled on Bellgab so he dares not miss a post. lol

lol

Wouldn't surprise me. Good poster, that one.


Catsmile

             AMERICAS  ↓





      North AMERICA  ↓




Lots of Americans don't live in the USA.


RoseGirl

Very true, Catsmile....very true.


albrecht

Quote from: 21st Century Man on April 26, 2017, 09:01:37 PM
I wonder if Pud sleeps with his phone's browser settled on Bellgab so he dares not miss a post. lol
The newish 24 hour licensing laws are likely helping him post and be alert to new ones. No more hassles for last orders or flashing lights and shuffling home and can monitor BG on the free wifi 24/7 enjoying some fine lukewarm ale, and maybe a large shot out of an EU approved apparatus, instead of a bartender with a bottle and a glass, for a pickmeup if some leftwing rag has a new Trump article?

chefist

Quote from: Catsmile on April 26, 2017, 09:13:09 PM
             AMERICAS  ↓





      North AMERICA  ↓




Lots of Americans don't live in the USA.



You always have the best, creepy avatars...love em!

chefist

Quote from: RoseGirl on April 26, 2017, 09:14:52 PM
Very true, Catsmile....very true.

Do you have semi (or overtly) lesbian avatars for a political purpose? Just asking for a friend... :D love you are posting again BTW...

Dr. MD MD

Ummm...Trump will go 26th? Hello?! Turns out you were wrong...again! Loser! ::)

paladin1991

Quote from: smccomas69 on April 26, 2017, 03:04:22 PM
If we would have kept pushing at the end of the first gulf where would we be today? One of the alleged reasons for 9/11 was that the radical/fundamental, what ever you want to call them were pissed about infidels being in the "holy land." We kept troops over there in part to keep Saddam Hussein in check. If we would have take him out we would not have needed to maintain a presence, would have saved a lot of Kurdish lives. That quite possibly would have helped us avoid 9/11, we would not have had to go back to Iraq. We had Islamic terrorist then but not like today hell after hitting Muammar Gaddafi's house he settled down.

That's a no shitter.

RoseGirl

Quote from: Chefist on April 26, 2017, 09:19:59 PM
Do you have semi (or overtly) lesbian avatars for a political purpose? Just asking for a friend... :D love you are posting again BTW...

Oops....sorry, missed that, Chefist. I thought you were talking to Catsmile. Or maybe you were. He could be a lesbian, stranger things have happened.

Anyway, yes...I have a few. For a while I was thinking of using this one, but I thought it might frighten the locals.

Too superhero-ish?

Lt.Uhura

Slimy pond scum thought they would pull a fast one and keep Obamacare for themselves before they repeal it for everybody else. He's only "fixing" it because he got found out by Vox.

GOP House member says he’ll fix the exemption for Congress in his health bill

The amendment offered by Rep. Tom MacArthur (R-NJ) would exempt health insurance plans held by legislators and their staff from key Obamacare repeal plans.
Congressional staff are currently required to buy coverage through the Obamacare marketplaces. The amendment offered by Rep. MacArthur would ensure that Hill staff continue to have access to Obamacare programs, like a ban on discriminating based on preexisting conditions, while other enrollees could lose those policies if their state applied for a waiver
.

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/4/26/15437004/macarthur-amendment-congress-exemption


New House Health Repeal Bill Is Already Losing The Senate

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_59010120e4b0026db1ddc634

#LOSING!

smccomas69

Quote from: Lt.Uhura on April 27, 2017, 03:36:01 AM
Slimy pond scum thought they would pull a fast one and keep Obamacare for themselves before they repeal it for everybody else. He's only "fixing" it because he got found out by Vox.

GOP House member says he’ll fix the exemption for Congress in his health bill

The amendment offered by Rep. Tom MacArthur (R-NJ) would exempt health insurance plans held by legislators and their staff from key Obamacare repeal plans.
Congressional staff are currently required to buy coverage through the Obamacare marketplaces. The amendment offered by Rep. MacArthur would ensure that Hill staff continue to have access to Obamacare programs, like a ban on discriminating based on preexisting conditions, while other enrollees could lose those policies if their state applied for a waiver
.

http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/4/26/15437004/macarthur-amendment-congress-exemption


New House Health Repeal Bill Is Already Losing The Senate

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_59010120e4b0026db1ddc634

#LOSING!

I thought they were already exempt? I seem to remember someone tried to force Congress to use Obama care. The idea being if they were going to force it on the population they should be required to use it. It was shot down quickly.

smccomas69

Quote from: albrecht on April 26, 2017, 09:17:39 PM
The newish 24 hour licensing laws are likely helping him post and be alert to new ones. No more hassles for last orders or flashing lights and shuffling home and can monitor BG on the free wifi 24/7 enjoying some fine lukewarm ale, and maybe a large shot out of an EU approved apparatus, instead of a bartender with a bottle and a glass, for a pickmeup if some leftwing rag has a new Trump article?

FYI a good beer DOES NOT need to be cold.

smccomas69

File this under un-fucking the mess from the previous admin.

The white house does it right.

"The White House is giving the Pentagon greater flexibility to determine the number of U.S. troops in Iraq and Syria, in another move by President Donald Trump to shift greater power to his military leaders.

The decision will give Defense Secretary Jim Mattis the authority to send more forces into Syria, to assist U.S.-backed local troops as they move to retake Raqqa from the Islamic State group, which has used the city as a de facto capital." Mad dog is in charge.

One of the many reason's it is a mess over there.

"Under the Obama White House, military leaders chafed about micromanagement that forced commanders to get approvals for routine tactical decisions and personnel moves, and provide justification for any troops sent into war zones. Commanders have argued that they should be able to determine troop deployments based on the military capabilities they believe are needed at any given time."

We had a bunch of incompetent academic sycophants making tactical decisions fortunately those days are over. This decision guarantee's I am voting for the man's re-election. I am not a Trumpkin or a staunch Republican most of the time I only vote that way is because the Democrat's are far far worse.       

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: smccomas69 on April 27, 2017, 07:58:02 AM
File this under un-fucking the mess from the previous admin.

The white house does it right.

"The White House is giving the Pentagon greater flexibility to determine the number of U.S. troops in Iraq and Syria, in another move by President Donald Trump to shift greater power to his military leaders.

The decision will give Defense Secretary Jim Mattis the authority to send more forces into Syria, to assist U.S.-backed local troops as they move to retake Raqqa from the Islamic State group, which has used the city as a de facto capital." Mad dog is in charge.

One of the many reason's it is a mess over there.

"Under the Obama White House, military leaders chafed about micromanagement that forced commanders to get approvals for routine tactical decisions and personnel moves, and provide justification for any troops sent into war zones. Commanders have argued that they should be able to determine troop deployments based on the military capabilities they believe are needed at any given time."

We had a bunch of incompetent academic sycophants making tactical decisions fortunately those days are over. This decision guarantee's I am voting for the man's re-election. I am not a Trumpkin or a staunch Republican most of the time I only vote that way is because the Democrat's are far far worse.       

Does that mean that the military commanders making such decisions will carry the can if their tactics prove to be wrong? The cynic in me feels this is why Trump is divesting his say so; Remember what he said after the SEAL raid in Yemen? He sanctioned it and no doubt would have taken the glory if no SEAL had been killed or injured. That changed when that didn't happen. And then there was the revolting overlong Trump self indulgence of the SEAL's widow's heartbreaking grief in the house. That was beyond mawkish, but the narcissist didn't care, he just saw it as about 'him' appearing to be empathetic.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: smccomas69 on April 27, 2017, 05:55:48 AM
FYI a good beer DOES NOT need to be cold.

Agree. Very cold beer that is intended to be drunk as such is usually rats piss.

smccomas69

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on April 27, 2017, 08:15:44 AM
Does that mean that the military commanders making such decisions will carry the can if their tactics prove to be wrong?

Yes.


aldousburbank

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on April 27, 2017, 08:19:35 AM
Agree. Very cold beer that is intended to be drunk as such is usually rats piss.

Finally some consensus around here. 


Yorkshire pud

Quote from: smccomas69 on April 27, 2017, 08:22:27 AM
Yes.

Which suits Trump down to the ground. The buck won't stop at him and he can blame the 'best generals in decades'. Why take responsibility when he can be blameless about soldiers dying? Got to tip my hat to that one.


GravitySucks

Quote from: smccomas69 on April 27, 2017, 05:17:08 AM
I thought they were already exempt? I seem to remember someone tried to force Congress to use Obama care. The idea being if they were going to force it on the population they should be required to use it. It was shot down quickly.

They lied on the applications and signed up on a small business exchange.

Not kidding

http://thehill.com/blogs/congress-blog/healthcare/276286-on-obamacare-is-there-one-set-of-rules-for-congress-and

https://www.forbes.com/sites/michaelcannon/2016/04/15/congress-is-getting-a-special-exemption-from-obamacare-and-no-its-not-legal/


Yorkshire pud

Quote from: smccomas69 on April 27, 2017, 09:13:47 AM
WOW I mean WOW.

What surprises me is why anyone is surprised. Does anyone really think that a typical politician who would gladly allow several million fellow citizens be denied healthcare because they're not rich or have the misfortune to have a condition before the insurance companies played god and said they wouldn't foot the bill, go without the juicy bits out of something they spent the last nine years voting against?

Kidnostad3

Quote from: RoseGirl on April 27, 2017, 01:21:17 AM
Oops....sorry, missed that, Chefist. I thought you were talking to Catsmile. Or maybe you were. He could be a lesbian, stranger things have happened.

Anyway, yes...I have a few. For a while I was thinking of using this one, but I thought it might frighten the locals.

Too superhero-ish?

Might I suggest:



RoseGirl

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on April 27, 2017, 09:26:33 AM
Might I suggest:

Ha! Whatever floats your little boat, kid. We don't judge on BellGab.


smccomas69

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on April 27, 2017, 09:19:47 AM
What surprises me is why anyone is surprised. Does anyone really think that a typical politician who would gladly allow several million fellow citizens be denied healthcare because they're not rich or have the misfortune to have a condition before the insurance companies played god and said they wouldn't foot the bill, go without the juicy bits out of something they spent the last nine years voting against?

It is not surprise as in not knowing that they are dirty. It is like with every knew revelation they take it as a challenge, the here hold my beer watch this.


Kidnostad3

Quote from: Yorkshire Pud on April 27, 2017, 09:19:47 AM
What surprises me is why anyone is surprised. Does anyone really think that a typical politician who would gladly allow several million fellow citizens be denied healthcare because they're not rich or have the misfortune to have a condition before the insurance companies played god and said they wouldn't foot the bill, go without the juicy bits out of something they spent the last nine years voting against?

Social Darwinism is not a well understood concept and has gotten a lot of bad press over the years.  I prefer to think of it as a culling of the herd or a refinement of the gene pool.  Thermonuclear war would be Social Darwinism on a fast track but that has gotten a lot of bad press too.  Oh well, I guess we'll have ro rely on withholding healthcare from non contributing members of society to get the job done.  That would reduce the Democrat voter base by 90% which in itself would be a good thing except that democrats continue to vote for decades after they die.

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