President Donald J. Trump

[Meister_000]

. . . You've made you point . . .

Au contraire â€" we've barely begun!

[ You're just resentful that your #1 Boy, SESSIONS, is only #2 on such search-results, invalidating you! ]

[Kidnostad3]

Party politics aside, Pence could get a bj from a drag queen looking like mother Theresa and get more respect. That idiotic simpering smirk he has whenever his leader so much as blinks irritates the fuck out of me. He needs a good slap.

What troubles you is that he is a much better man than you or I Gunga Din. 

[21st Century Man]

1. Truth ringing true
2. Can say in one word what might otherwise take a paragraph.
3. Was in part aimed at you PB, so nice catch. Did you notice your #1 Boy, PENCE, shows up on page-one of any such search?
4. It helps _me_ to finally be able to put a name to (for example) the alt-christian stuff I'd been hearing on contemporary American Catholic radio over the past few years. There is/has-been a united-front, a christian-right front,  (more dangerous than Islam we know now) of efforts and contributors for decades in the US, all of it leading to the recent (sick) victory of same.

You are a nut.  I'll bet you change your tune quick should ISIS comes knocking at your door.

[21st Century Man]

There's a word for that.
Christofascist (s) / Christofascism
(Google it)

And here's one back at you.

Christaphobe (s) / Christaphobia[/b]

(Google It)

[Yorkshire pud]

What troubles you is that he is a much better man than you or I Gunga Din.

And by what metric do you come to that conclusion?

[Kidnostad3]

And by what metric do you come to that conclusion?

Furlongs per fortnight. 

[Yorkshire pud]

Furlongs per fortnight.

He views women as not being capable of deciding their own reproduction or not. Its telling that pretty much all the decisions in the current WH are made by men. I'm not surprised of course, its just an observation.

[PB the Deplorable]

That will explain why both Rep majority houses aren't looking into Clinton then. And why the FBI and CIA haven't publically said they're lookng into Clinton or Podesta. Lol... But don't stop believing.

The Establishment Rinos hold the vast majority of Republican seats in the House and Senate, run the committees, and don't like Trump any more than the Democrats do  (isn't that clear to you yet?).  They do not want him to succeed in implementing the policies he ran on.   He's not one of them.  If he were one of them, they'd be protecting him, duh.

He's not a Tea Party Conservative either, so there's no loyalty there either, other than where they have shared interests.  As we saw when they tanked the RinoCare bill last week.

Trump is as close as we've ever had to an Independent winning the presidency, and has no base of support in Washington DC.  For that reason alone he should be supported against both self-serving parties and the Media they've allied with to discredit him and block him from fulfilling his campaign promises.

[Yorkshire pud]

The Establishment Rinos hold the vast majority of Republican seats in the House and Senate, run the committees, and don't like Trump any more than the Democrats do  (isn't that clear to you yet?).  They do not want him to succeed in implementing the policies he ran on.   He's not one of them.  If he were one of them, they'd be protecting him, duh.

He's not a Tea Party Conservative either, so there's no loyalty there either, other than where they have shared interests.  As we saw when they tanked the RinoCare bill last week.

Trump is as close as we've ever had to an Independent winning the presidency, and has no base of support in Washington DC.  For that reason alone he should be supported against both self-serving parties and the Media they've allied with to discredit him and block him from fulfilling his campaign promises.

[/b]

In spite of him being a deluded, pathological lying, narccisstic, lazy, self serving, lying, demented, lying, cheating, lying, treacherous, lying, deluded, mentally unstable, lying, deluded cretin?

[Lt.Uhura]

Trump is as close as we've ever had to an Independent winning the presidency, and has no base of support in Washington DC.  For that reason alone he should be supported against both self-serving parties and the Media they've allied with to discredit him and block him from fulfilling his campaign promises.

Supporting him "against" both parties won't do any good. Trump's not a natural leader, he's a narcissist whose incompetence and inability to work with any group has resulted in chaos and discord. Not only are the Rs and Ds not working together, but Trump's volatility has created animosity among members of his own party. I'm not hopeful they'll accomplish anything under these circumstances.

[Catsmile]

2 out of 3 branches of government are working okay, so far. Despite the shit show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5hWWe-ts2s

[PB the Deplorable]

Supporting him "against" both parties won't do any good. Trump's not a natural leader, he's a narcissist whose incompetence and inability to work with any group has resulted in chaos and discord. Not only are the Rs and Ds not working together, but Trump's volatility has created animosity among members of his own party. I'm not hopeful they'll accomplish anything under these circumstances.

The people of this country still want the southern border controlled, foreign criminals deported, Moslem immigration halted, ObamaCare repealed, unnecessary regulations set up to destroy businesses repealed, crony capitalism between Wall St and DC ended, the size of government reduced, the budget cut and balanced, and for our government to put America and American jobs first when it comes to trade.

[Meister_000]

And here's one back at you.

Christaphobe (s) / Christaphobia[/b]

(Google It)

I'll take Christofasciophobia for the win please! -- but here meaning "well-founded/rational fear" of.

[PB the Deplorable]

The DC Establishment Republicans have shown their hand.  They were given the House in 2012, with explicit orders to repeal ObamaCare - which is what they campaigned on.  They could have done this by refusing to pass a budget that did not include that.  They didn't - they said as being only half of the Congress, they needed the Senate too.  They were given the Senate in 2014 - they said they needed the presidency. 

And all along they passed repeal legislation, knowing it was going to be vetoed.  Now that they have all the power, they created a phony bill they knew wouldn't be passed so they could each tell the people in their districts they tried.

The fact is, big business wants a government run healthcare system so they no would no longer be expected to furnish healthcare insurance for their employees - and that's who Ryan and the Rinos are catering to, instead of the American people.  Trump is too stupid or uniformed to understand this, and trusted Ryan.

[Yorkshire pud]

SOME The people of this country still want the southern border controlled, foreign criminals deported, Moslem immigration halted,

Can't pick one religion for immigration restriction. Isn't constitutional, but Trump Bannon knows that.

ObamaCare repealed,

To be replaced with what? Hungergames?

unnecessary regulations

They're still working on repealing the neccessary ones. Such as those that stop water being poisoned by chemical effluent and clean air regs.

set up to destroy businesses repealed, crony capitalism between Wall St and DC ended,

For real? That explains why the cabinet is full of millionaires and  billionaires, who will enjoy windfall tax breaks.

the size of government reduced, the budget cut and balanced, and for our government to put America and American jobs first when it comes to trade.

Awwww, bless. American jobs to make what exactly? At the same cost and retail price as that paid if same products are made in Asia. Good luck with that!

[PB the Deplorable]

I'm a bigot, but I don't want to put a bumper sticker on my car saying that, because my ''Progressive'' Fascist friends might take it the wrong way

[PB the Deplorable]

Can't pick one religion for immigration restriction. Isn't constitutional, but Trump Bannon knows that...

Because some phony judge said so? 

Please show us where it says that.  Be specific.

[PB the Deplorable]

... They're still working on repealing the neccessary ones. Such as those that stop water being poisoned by chemical effluent and clean air regs...

Since this has been explained to you multiple times, as have most of your other hobby horses, we may as well admit you are either too stupid to understand, or have the memory of a can of beans.

[PB the Deplorable]

... To be replaced with what? Hungergames?...

I think we've been over this enough times as well.  Either you get it or you don't.

Please respond with some Fake Statistics from your idols in Cuba

[PB the Deplorable]

... For real? That explains why the cabinet is full of millionaires and  billionaires, who will enjoy windfall tax breaks...

Should he have picked barbers and taxi cab drivers?

Trade rules benefitting America will benefit those who own business - whether they are small businesses or people who own stock in larger businesses, those who are employed by business, and the communities those jobs are located in;  tax cuts benefit those who pay the taxes.

You really didn't know any of this?

[GravitySucks]

I'll take Christofasciophobia for the win please! -- but here meaning "well-founded/rational fear" of.

[PB the Deplorable]

... Awwww, bless. American jobs to make what exactly? At the same cost and retail price as that paid if same products are made in Asia. Good luck with that!

When jobs leave, people here lose them.  The job they lost was generally their best option, so they then have to go to their next best option - hopefully a job as good or almost as good.  Because if not, they can't sent their kids to college, save for retirement, keep their home, etc.  Other businesses in those communities lose revenue because their customers have less to spend.  The local government loses tax revenue.

China, and to a lesser extent others, have unfairly targeted our jobs and industries, unfairly manipulated their currency so they can sell for less, etc.  Perhaps you can tell us what is wrong with pushing back.

I think those jobs are probably gone for good.  But we can tax the goods made from stolen industries coming in.  And ensure we create the proper environment so new jobs created here will stay.

[PB the Deplorable]

... Awwww, bless...

You didn't used to be this much of a dumb dick.  What happened?

[Lt.Uhura]

The people of this country still want the southern border controlled, foreign criminals deported, Moslem immigration halted, ObamaCare repealed, unnecessary regulations set up to destroy businesses repealed, crony capitalism between Wall St and DC ended, the size of government reduced, the budget cut and balanced, and for our government to put America and American jobs first when it comes to trade.

That's your wish list, there is no evidence "the people of this country" want all of the above. Trump was elected by a minority of Americans. Besides, the dysfunction clearly evident in his administration is not likely to accomplish the results you're expecting.

[Meister_000]

Christofascism in the News
ICYMI (and NOT an April fool's joke!)
"Iowa politician (Rep) says even Dead Fetuses should be carried to Term!"

On Thursday, Lundgren caused a furor online after asserting that women who miscarry after 20 weeks of pregnancy should have to carry their fetuses to term. Shannon Lundgren’s comments came during a hearing this week on Senate File 471, which would pave the way for a state ban on abortions after the 20-week mark. The Iowa House of Representatives’ Human Resources Committee approved the legislation after a “fetal heartbeat bill” that would have banned abortion any time after a heartbeat is detectedâ€"as early as six weeks of pregnancyâ€"was scrapped. The legislation is now under consideration by the Iowa House, and if it becomes law, Iowa would be the 18th state to ban abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy.

Lundgren, the manager of Senate File 471, represents rural Dubuque and ran for office on an anti-abortion platform. She was asked by state Representative John Forbes if, under the proposal, his daughter, who is 20 weeks pregnant, would have to carry her child to term even if a doctor told her there was no longer a heartbeat. “Is that good medicine?” asked Forbes.

“This bill wasn’t written for the intent to protect or govern on the side of the woman. It was written to save babies’ lives, giving the choice and being the voice of those babies...that don’t have one,” replied Lundgren. “I understand what you’re sayingâ€"this fetus, this baby, is not alive. I would concur that in that instance, if your daughter’s life is not in danger, that yes, she would have to carry that baby.” A full exchange between Lundgren and Forbes can be viewed here.

No other legislators appeared to take issue with or attempt to correct Lundgren’s comments during the debate.

[Update; Next day flip-flop after bad press -- | Iowa Representative Shannon Lundgren says she corrected herself after asserting some women should carry dead fetuses to term earlier this week.

On Thursday, Lundgren caused a furor online after asserting that women who miscarry after 20 weeks of pregnancy should have to carry their fetuses to term. On Friday, Lundgren says she "answered a question incorrectly and then corrected myself shortly after." ]
http://www.newsweek.com/iowa-abortion-shannon-lundgren-miscarriage-dead-fetus-term-577289

[Lt.Uhura]

An intelligent leader with a vision for the future would not make empty promises like Trump did to the coal miners. Everyone paying attention can see the coal industry is dying, especially the workers themselves. Why not foster and support clean energy solutions. Solar panels on every new construction...Develop electric, hydrogen vehicles that are not cost prohibitive for a working-class budget. An administration who supports a sustainable economy and environment would find support and enthusiasm among their constituents.

[Catsmile]

... Trump was elected by a minority of Americans. Besides, the dysfunction clearly evident in his administration is not likely to accomplish the results you're expecting.

He would have won that too! Had it not been for those pesky 3.5 million meddling illegals in their mysterious vans.

[Yorkshire pud]

When jobs leave, people here lose them.  The job they lost was generally their best option, so they then have to go to their next best option - hopefully a job as good or almost as good.  Because if not, they can't sent their kids to college, save for retirement, keep their home, etc.  Other businesses in those communities lose revenue because their customers have less to spend.  The local government loses tax revenue.

China, and to a lesser extent others, have unfairly targeted our jobs and industries, unfairly manipulated their currency so they can sell for less, etc.  Perhaps you can tell us what is wrong with pushing back.

I think those jobs are probably gone for good.  But we can tax the goods made from stolen industries coming in.  And ensure we create the proper environment so new jobs created here will stay.

And taxing those goods from China will hurt those buying them, not the Chinese. But if they stop buying Chinese stuff, what makes you think they'll have an affordable American alternative? The same day. How long do you think Apple for instance will continue having their phones and other shit made in Asia before taking it to the USA? I'll go for them never having their shit made in the US.

[PB the Deplorable]

That's your wish list, there is no evidence "the people of this country" want all of the above. Trump was elected by a minority of Americans. Besides, the dysfunction clearly evident in his administration is not likely to accomplish the results you're expecting.

Its more than the election of Trump.  In the past eight years, the Rs picked up a net of 69 House seats, 13 Senate seats, 12 governorships, and over 900 state legislative seats.  Campaigning on these issues.

Given that the Republican Party leadership pretty much sucks at the national level, and the Fake News Media routinely trashes them - while shilling for the Ds - isn't that a little hard to ignore?

[Yorkshire pud]

Christofascism in the News
ICYMI (and NOT an April fool's joke!)
"Iowa politician (Rep) says even Dead Fetuses should be carried to Term!"

On Thursday, Lundgren caused a furor online after asserting that women who miscarry after 20 weeks of pregnancy should have to carry their fetuses to term. Shannon Lundgren’s comments came during a hearing this week on Senate File 471, which would pave the way for a state ban on abortions after the 20-week mark. The Iowa House of Representatives’ Human Resources Committee approved the legislation after a “fetal heartbeat bill” that would have banned abortion any time after a heartbeat is detectedâ€"as early as six weeks of pregnancyâ€"was scrapped. The legislation is now under consideration by the Iowa House, and if it becomes law, Iowa would be the 18th state to ban abortions after 20 weeks of pregnancy.

Lundgren, the manager of Senate File 471, represents rural Dubuque and ran for office on an anti-abortion platform. She was asked by state Representative John Forbes if, under the proposal, his daughter, who is 20 weeks pregnant, would have to carry her child to term even if a doctor told her there was no longer a heartbeat. “Is that good medicine?” asked Forbes.

“This bill wasn’t written for the intent to protect or govern on the side of the woman. It was written to save babies’ lives, giving the choice and being the voice of those babies...that don’t have one,” replied Lundgren. “I understand what you’re sayingâ€"this fetus, this baby, is not alive. I would concur that in that instance, if your daughter’s life is not in danger, that yes, she would have to carry that baby.” A full exchange between Lundgren and Forbes can be viewed here.

No other legislators appeared to take issue with or attempt to correct Lundgren’s comments during the debate.

[Update; Next day flip-flop after bad press -- | Iowa Representative Shannon Lundgren says she corrected herself after asserting some women should carry dead fetuses to term earlier this week.

On Thursday, Lundgren caused a furor online after asserting that women who miscarry after 20 weeks of pregnancy should have to carry their fetuses to term. On Friday, Lundgren says she "answered a question incorrectly and then corrected myself shortly after." ]
http://www.newsweek.com/iowa-abortion-shannon-lundgren-miscarriage-dead-fetus-term-577289

She should get pregnant and if in the event she miscarries, carry the foetus to term. Served with a dressing of pathos and cruelty.