President Donald J. Trump

[JesusJuice]

The Mcdonald's thing from earlier today is funny because Robert Gibbs is the Chief Global Communications Officer for Mcdonald's and that Tweet came from the corporate account.

[Dr. MD MD]

The Mcdonald's thing from earlier today is funny because Robert Gibbs is the Chief Global Communications Officer for Mcdonald's and that Tweet came from the corporate account.

I heard they denied it and said their account was hacked.

[JesusJuice]

I heard they denied it and said their account was hacked.

The Tweet stayed up for Twenty minutes and then they deleted it and posted another Tweet saying that they were "hacked". When a Twitter account is legitimately "hacked" Twitter locks it down until it can determine when the owner is back in control. That did not happen here. Twitter was asked for comment today from various media sites and they said that they don't talk about individual accounts. Certain accounts that express the proper ideology can post outrageously hostile statements and then five or ten minutes later claim that they were "hacked" and Twitter will neither confirm nor deny if it's true.

[starrmtn001]

3-16-17 President Trump Makes Remarks at the St. Patrick’s Day Reception.  3.16.17.

https://youtu.be/FEos3VLzbQE

[Dr. MD MD]

The Tweet stayed up for Twenty minutes and then they deleted it and posted another Tweet saying that they were "hacked". When a Twitter account is legitimately "hacked" Twitter locks it down until it can determine when the owner is back in control. That did not happen here. Twitter was asked for comment today from various media sites and they said that they don't talk about individual accounts. Certain accounts that express the proper ideology can post outrageously hostile statements and then five or ten minutes later claim that they were "hacked" and Twitter will neither confirm nor deny if it's true.

Well, higher up behind the scenes just lost their job, I'd think. 

[NewStar]

Stop trying to butter me up and answer the question:  Are you male, female or indifferent?

You wish!    Those are the days dreams are made of.  I'd die a happy man were it only so. We'd be in hella better shape if _that_ were the biggest hot-button issue or avoid topic of the day!

Actually, CI -type content probably _is_ the underlying issue, if only we'd see.  And then too, the CI was intended specifically (and by-design) to allow Humans to conceptualize and discuss the timeless Golden Rule and more WITHOUT having to resort-to and couch arguments in GOD and Religion terms. THAT was Kant's Enterprise and Mission from the start, by design (I'll stress that again). In his Moral Philosophy, Kant made every effort to cover as many requisite bases as needed to present a free-standing non-religious yet Universal tool and tool-set. He was both very familiar with Christian content (devout Pietist [Luthuran] mother) and also keenly aware that we cannot do without "some" kind of moral teaching and teaching vocabulary.

Sorry fact is, today, we give our kids _nothing_, there IS a void left were Religion used to be and reign. Post-Kantian Relativist philosophy effectively removed Philosophy from the "Practical" (as in usable) sphere so that by the early 1900's we had nothing left to hold on to. No Religion AND no Philosophy! We have nothing left, and thus nothing to give our children -- and it shows! This is untenable. Kant FORESAW this problem. He was a Wise man, farsighted, large-minded and large-hearted. He strove to leave us a gift, a Practical usable serviceable tool, born of the Enlightenment, for future generations to benefit from, his contribution to "the Preservation and Flourishing of Human-kind". He was a kind of "Theologian" that the world had not seen for Millennia, if ever, before. He does not rank among the greatest of all minds ever for no reason, and is not routinely spoken of in the same breath with the likes of Plato for no reason. Plato was a Theologian too, the most influential Theologian of all time, the first Western Theologian. Kant may well have been the Last. They are Book-Ends, Plato and Kant. Two of the greatest Treasures we have.

You do undertstand (people) that we have nothing to offer the Muslim mind as an alternative, if we don't have Kant. Think hard and long on that. Kant is The Gateway. He is "the safety-net" whilst throwing off the Yoke of Religion. As the youngins say; "Word".   [And I am deadly serious.]

I was going to hedge a little, by saying something like, ya but of course we have the Natural Law, Natural Rights, and Human Rights traditions to give to them as well. But then I recalled that Kant knew that, and in fact did that, and that Kant _was_ the last and the best of "the Natural Lawyers" too!  He was able to employ the principles of natural law _ without_ resorting to "God" per say as "The Source" of those Laws and Rights, and do it with some degree of Philosophical and academic Rigor, the best he was capable of. Evolved and Autonomous Rational free-agent Beings, humans, from all corners of the globe, should be able to agree, _rationally_ on a set of key guidelines. While Kant was certainly not the first Humanist, he was the first to speak of "Human Rights" as such. He did lift us firmly over the line and into the New Age of _Global _Moral_ perspectives. He did coin and propose the phrase and notion of a "League of Nations" (in his 1795 essay "Perpetual Peace".) So yes, we can only wish that the day comes when Kant might be a household name [albeit 200 years delayed!] and taken as something to meet or beat, put-up or shut-up -- ya, that I could live with, and with that, you'all might stand a chance of surviving, yet.

FIFY
Dude, I'm 60 years old and have been exposed to the natural foods scene and its common topics since the early 1970s. The fluorine story is not news to me, and I agree with you that it's horrible shit. Nevertheless, Manx's predicament needn't be made any worse than it is by some red herring "cause" of his troubles. K?

[Meister_000]

She has not denied being a Dyke. If not her, what other female posting here has demonstrated that she is unhinged enough to steal someone's identity and make, or have someone else make, an obscene call that my wife was the first to hear?   Feel free to opine.  If someone else did it and is letting her appear to be the only one who is fucked up enough to do something like that, it's further ttestimony to their craven cowardice.   

You senile demented Putz! How many times do we have to tell and remind you?
I, Meister,  am *not* Female, am *not* a Dyke, *not* homosexual, *am* heterosexual male, had *nothing to do with* your personal difficulties. Nevertheless,  you remain a vile and violent-natured demonic-spawn as I long ago recognized and as you continue to demon-strate! You are _not_ easy to like/love, in your Bellgab personna to be sure, I must remind you, and so that you have enemies somewhere should not surprise anyone. You *are* detestable. But my stating that fact openly is proof of nothing more than my fullfilment of obligations -- the responsibilities that accrue and attend to "knowing".

[Dr. MD MD]

You senile demented Putz! How many times do we have to tell and remind you?
I, Meister,  am *not* Female, am *not* a Dyke, *not* homosexual, *am* heterosexual male, had *nothing to do with* your personal difficulties. Nevertheless,  you remain a vile and violent-natured demonic-spawn as I long ago recognized and as you continue to demon-strate! You are _not_ easy to like/love, in your Bellgab personna to be sure, I must remind you, and so that you have enemies somewhere should not surprise anyone. You *are* detestable. But my stating that fact openly is proof of nothing more than my fullfilment of obligations -- the responsibilities that accrue and attend to "knowing".

And you're also Stellar. Why not just admit it? 

[Dr. MD MD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWjf2fVrkXs

[WOTR]

Doc. These must be your Facebook friends

I am trying to imagine what his file at the NSA looks like.  Googling "British pedophile" a few time a week and watching the results and posting them elsewhere has to have raised at least a few red flags with someone...

[albrecht]

I am trying to imagine what his file at the NSA looks like.  Googling "British pedophile" a few time a week and watching the results and posting them elsewhere has to have raised at least a few red flags with someone...

At least he could've flown a bit under the radar by using the British spelling for the perverts? No, I guess not. Since their GCHQ, and other agencies, share their stuff with our agencies (and vice-versa) for decades, at least since ECHELON. Back when both governments, at least pretended, to obey the laws in respective countries against domestic spying. An easy trick that any man on the street could figure out- but likely some government lawyer did- "hey, if we spy on their population and they spy on ours and we just share that info!"

[Dr. MD MD]

I am trying to imagine what his file at the NSA looks like.  Googling "British pedophile" a few time a week and watching the results and posting them elsewhere has to have raised at least a few red flags with someone...

Sigh...still pretending we're not living in a surveillance society?! Whatever. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Any intel agency is welcome to come find me and interview me, if they feel the need. Besides, how do you I don't talk to them? 

Yawn! You're veiled threats are BORING! Just like the bulk of your posts. 

[WOTR]

Sigh...still pretending we're not living in a surveillance society?!

It certainly sounds like Trump is absolutely shocked that somebody may have listened in on him.  Most of the rest of us are aware that everything we type or say will be recorded somewhere.

Yawn! You're veiled threats are BORING! Just like the bulk of your posts. 

I suppose that is a reflection on the material that I have to work with. 

[Dr. MD MD]

It certainly sounds like Trump is absolutely shocked that somebody may have listened in on him.  Most of the rest of us are aware that everything we type or say will be recorded somewhere.

I suppose that is a reflection on the material that I have to work with. 

Exactly! Your material is shit! Start over! Reformulate! Try harder! 

[albrecht]

Sigh...still pretending we're not living in a surveillance society?! Whatever. I've said it before and I'll say it again: Any intel agency is welcome to come find me and interview me, if they feel the need. Besides, how do you I don't talk to them? 

Yawn! You're veiled threats are BORING! Just like the bulk of your posts. 

I know. I don't get the logic of the much of the media these days. On the one hand it has been proven, by leaks, Congressional testimony, by prosecutions, by hackers, by our government, by other governments, by cyber criminals, etc that just about everybody is under some form of surveillance, data mining, or spying. (And often causes outrage by the Press and media when this is "discovered.") But, at the same time, they claim that Trump and his staff or businesses couldn't/wouldn't be spied upon and he lies about it? Even though some of the papers, previously, reported on it- specifically. It is weird.

[Kidnostad3]

You senile demented Putz! How many times do we have to tell and remind you?
I, Meister,  am *not* Female, am *not* a Dyke, *not* homosexual, *am* heterosexual male, had *nothing to do with* your personal difficulties. Nevertheless,  you remain a vile and violent-natured demonic-spawn as I long ago recognized and as you continue to demon-strate! You are _not_ easy to like/love, in your Bellgab personna to be sure, I must remind you, and so that you have enemies somewhere should not surprise anyone. You *are* detestable. But my stating that fact openly is proof of nothing more than my fullfilment of obligations -- the responsibilities that accrue and attend to "knowing".

Naw, you're a Jewish dyke with penis envy and a man's wardrobe. 

[NewStar]

I am trying to imagine what his file at the NSA looks like.  Googling "British pedophile" a few time a week and watching the results and posting them elsewhere has to have raised at least a few red flags with someone...

Doc. These must be your Facebook friends

Very stupid of both of you to support pedophilia and making fun of those who don't.
Both of you.Red flagged now,you sickos.

[Dr. MD MD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NHMyase8AKk&t=116s

[NewStar]

Exactly! Your material is shit! Start over! Reformulate! Try harder! 

That might not be so easy.

I finally got diagnosed as ADD when I was around 30... yes, 30.  If anybody is wondering, I am not just a "little" ADD, it is pretty severe and when I look back at my life in light of what was a revelation I can spot years of problems.  This quack blaming my parents and teaches does nothing but demonstrate his willful ignorance.  This is not imagined, it is not "laziness" and it is not a simple behavioral issue.  God knows my parents did their best (I have them to thank for the fact that I survived) and I was blessed with some degree of intelligence so I had no problems academically.

While I don't take medication every day, I can tell you that there are times when it makes all the difference in my life (personal and professional).  After I first took it I had thought it was magic and would fix my life... I was mistaken, but it is certainly a tool.  I use many other "tools" (a garbage can in every room is one of the more unusual but useful tips I have found.)  I should probably take it daily, but there can be weeks at a stretch where I am able to cope before I end up overwhelmed again.  The mess gets too big, the pile gets too high and the "to do" list too long.  I have a colleague who has actually jumped on my back when his medication wore off- his condition is severe and I invite the "good quack" to "cure" him without medication.  The drugs keep his feet on the ground and him off my back.  Yes, medication is over prescribed and it should not be given out like candy to school children.

I am so happy this jackass has a national audience on which to spew his S###.  Not enough people are convinced that ADD is an imaginary condition easily "cured" by discipline and love.  Why am I unable to reach through the radio to smack this twit in the head?

[WOTR]

I know. I don't get the logic of the much of the media these days. On the one hand it has been proven, by leaks, Congressional testimony, by prosecutions, by hackers, by our government, by other governments, by cyber criminals, etc that just about everybody is under some form of surveillance, data mining, or spying. (And often causes outrage by the Press and media when this is "discovered.")

I would be shocked if there was not some kind of surveillance on Trump.  I would be surprised if it was "Obama ordered", but I cannot imagine that the department of homeland security did not make an (internal) case that they "needed" to know everything they could find out about EVERY candidate that ran.

[Dr. MD MD]

That might not be so easy.

No, not to make light of it but we both know there are meds that if taken daily can be quite effective (though not entirely without side effects) but are unfortunately socially stigmatized. 

[WOTR]

That might not be so easy.

Thanks Jack.  I almost forgot that I had that. 

[albrecht]

I would be shocked if there was not some kind of surveillance on Trump.  I would be surprised if it was "Obama ordered", but I cannot imagine that the department of homeland security did not make an (internal) case that they "needed" to know everything they could find out about EVERY candidate that ran.

If what Trump says is true and that he was being audited by the IRS and has been before, that alone, even prior to his candidacy, might entail some spying or investigation.

So we have, on the one hand, Trump is lying about being under surveillance, wire-tapped, investigated, etc and, on the other, proof that the government(s), and others, are spying, data-mining, hacking, etc on just about everybody. And the media and other Democrats would have us believe that Trump and his organization or properties were the sole people that were never looked into or spied upon.    Amazingly hard to believe. Congressional testimony, Vault 7, Snowden, etc proves the spying on almost everyone- even Congressmen. To think Trump was immune is just crazy.

One other note, like with Watergate and Obama's IRS scandal(s,) often an "investigation" or "audit" or illegal things are not expressly given by the President, Capo, or whatever but underlings "know," "get a hint," etc so there is plausible deniability. Heck, this is even done in small operations/businesses where something bad might get dump, some paperwork goes missing, etc- not expressed explicitly to staff. Basic stuff. I doubt, Obama, or whatever his name is, would expressly say or put in a memo: "wiretap the gold phone in the penthouse suite in Trump Tower because I want to get incriminating evidence for use in blackmail or taking down his Presidency." But could, as he did, give more powers to various agencies and have political appointees (or non-political who fear any cuts to the budgets could effect their department and jobs) do the dirty work.

[Meister_000]

🚨Last Straw!🚨
Your PIG of a President
plans to Kill the USICH
U.S. Interagency Council
on Homelessness

You "Win" alright!
The Award for . . .
Degenerate(s) of the Century!
NOT. ONE. FUCKING. SHRED. OF. DECENCY!

Obsessing on this D-IKE  for a change, would be more productive
â€" something else "full-of-fruit" (for you'all) to be consumed by.

[Dr. MD MD]

Obsessing on this D-IKE  for a change, would be more productive
â€" something else "full-of-fruit" (for you'all) to be consumed by.

[Dr. MD MD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHlOASTpNOo

[Dr. MD MD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzkDaCAWYY4

[PB the Deplorable]

🚨Last Straw!🚨
Your PIG of a President
plans to Kill the USICH
U.S. Interagency Council
on Homelessness

What is it you think these people have accomplished with all that tax money?  This agency and others like it are about high paying jobs, employing over-educated, well connected, but otherwise useless, talentless, hacks - to preen about with high sounding titles.

The ''Progressives'' in general are remarkable shallow, and typically look no further than whatever label has been skillfully applied.  They even think what they advocate is somehow liberal, and actually leads to social progress - because those are the labels their handlers have put on their fascist ideas.

[NewStar]

As promised I am attaching the recording of the harassing voicemail I received from a BelGaber.  I have had an expert analyze it and he tells me that it is definitely a woman and that we have an excellent voice signature.  I also have copies of some of the emails she sent to a number of commercial activities posing as me.  I was contacted by phone by more than a dozen of those commercial activities ranging from moving companies to car dealerships.  I even got a call from the Mormon Church in response to an email she sent on my behalf.

I know of no other BelGab poster with whom I have had an antagonistic relationships to any degree approaching that which I have had with Meister_000 and certainly not a woman.   Knowing the raging foul mouthed screeds she posts here on BelGab I can only conclude that she or one of her LGBT friends made the call and is responsible for stealing my identify which is a crime.  Of course Meister is quick to call other's who see through her shit sick and vile but how twisted and mean spirited does one have to be to rationalize this kind of thing. Who else would it be?   I'll let you all be the judge and, please, if you can think of any other BelGabber that you think is equally emotionally fucked up and might be responsible let me know by message.

This kind of identify theft for malicious purposes is a crime and there are particularly harsh penalties in Florida when victims are over the age of 65. My lawyer has referred me to another attorney who specializes in such cases and he assures me that the assholes involved in this can be tracked and prosecuted.

http://bellgab.com/radio-and-podcasts/first-caller-'rose'/

Fake ?

Seems to perfect of a way to start off the show.

Only person that was so focused with that call was Meister_000 (also known as Meister_666 previously).
Might be genuine non related interest in Rose's funny phone call to Art, or maybe Rose is Meister's wife.

http://bellgab.com/radio-and-podcasts/first-caller-'rose'/

It _was_ an absolutely perfect opener, and too precious. I just got back from listening to her segment again in the archive, for kicks, came back here and found this new thread. She's the happiest gal in town today, no doubt.

Popple,  that  cracked me up! thanks, just the notion of "The Rose Transcript"!  And it must have taken some work.

I Googled around earlier for things like "Iuka Illinois local news"  + Rose + Art Bell etc. but found nothing. Thought maybe perhaps someone in the Village would have picked up the story  "Local girl becomes instant Radio Star"

Art has an "Audio Clips" page now (as of Sunday am).  http://artbell.com/category/show/audio/

Can someone get the word to him to post the "Rose from Iuka" clip there? It is a hands-down classic and worthy of being there.

And the audio clip.
Art Bell talks to Rose who is confused about who she is talking with on Midnight In The Desert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of75a1T6F8U

Meister used initial R in his first few posts.

I think she did a great job, and Art couldn't have asked for a better side-kick tonight. She's a trooper, good on her feet, remarkably familiar with AB show history, and easy on the ears too. I would style her "a comfort", and one that Art _deserved_ on a night like this.

R

You did a _FINE_ job -- as in excellent!  (And complements don't roll off my tongue lightly.) The _last_ thing you should be made fo feel is somehow inadequate, unappreciated, or as having been a detraction or distraction of any kind. You (nor anyone else), could-not have done better, nor more, than you did. Your performance and service was stellar. Take a bow!  Good work! Three Cheers!

night night

R

Ya, he dropped out here too, San Francisco, wasn't sure if i was just me. And yes, I'm glad he didn't know it -- as was clear to me upon resume.

R

Only thing not matching is: "Rose from Iuka"  "Iuka Illinois local news" and: Ya, he dropped out here too, San Francisco,

Maybe something,maybe nothing.
Maybe Meister's initial R and Rose are connected, maybe not.
I'm not even sure if I myself believe in this conspiracy connection concoction I just presented.
But both female voices sound quite the same to me.
You can ask your voice expert for his opinion.

[JesusJuice]

http://bellgab.com/radio-and-podcasts/first-caller-'rose'/
Only person that was so focused with that call was Meister_000 (also known as Meister_666 previously).
Might be genuine non related interest in Rose's funny phone call to Art, or maybe Rose is Meister's wife.

http://bellgab.com/radio-and-podcasts/first-caller-'rose'/


And the audio clip.
Art Bell talks to Rose who is confused about who she is talking with on Midnight In The Desert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of75a1T6F8U

Meister used initial R in his first few posts.

Only thing not matching is: "Rose from Iuka"  "Iuka Illinois local news" and: Ya, he dropped out here too, San Francisco,

Maybe something,maybe nothing.
Maybe Meister's initial R and Rose are connected, maybe not.
I'm not even sure if I myself believe in this conspiracy connection concoction I just presented.
But both female voices sound quite the same to me.
You can ask your voice expert for his opinion.

This is the exact same conspiracy theory that theONE laid out in the /x/ thread last night! I thought that NewStar was JackStar? What the fuck is going on here?