President Donald J. Trump

[Yorkshire pud]

Upshot:



And it's extremely biased, not based.

Oh stop it..

theconservativetreehouse.com
Letter Surfaces of Obama Foundation Admitting in 2018 They Keep Classified Documents in Unsecured...

You were saying?

Look, if Obama had broken the law, All the drump sychophants would be clamouring to hug a microphone to yell the gospel according to their orange dumbass god..

Silence....silence too on the impending unfortunate difficulties in NY.. Hmmm...donny no mates? 

[Jackstar]

That's just obvious and I'm certainly not the only one who thinks so. Anyway, the reason I said that is because you "it's what we do." Well, I certainly don't do that

I'm gonna unpack this.

We're all Feds here. Everyone using this Internet? Say 'aye-aye' and be damn glad we all can, because the pressures some people are under are enormous. For example, people are having to learn to pronounce the name "Quetzalcoatl." They're fucked. Those people? Fucked.

ketzel twat cull, signing off.

[Jackstar]

Look, if Obama had broken the law

... If?

https://www.businessinsider.com/why-obama-allowed-take-white-house-records-but-not-trump-2022-8


Upshot: Obama didn't break the law

I had to drill down for this. Like, everyone breaks the law. The conflation here is remarkable.

Was it even the same law? Was it the same technology? Were they using the information obtained from PLG?


Why are you so salty on Drumpf? It seems like we can work on letting this go.

[K_Dubb]

https://twitter.com/thelastrefuge2/status/1572688969485238275

Maybe they didn't have to subpoena because he gave everything back?

Maybe they did subpoena but kept it quiet and Obama kept it quiet, like Trumpykins decided to do back in early summer when we didn't hear a peep?

Maybe they did issue a search warrant for anything that was withheld, but went in quietly like they tried to do with Trumpykins before he publicly freaked out and wailed about being persecuted?

This whole document thing is Trumpykins's creation, great job when under investigation on many fronts to give the Feds an excuse to go through your desk 🤦�♂️

[Dr. MD MD]

Maybe they didn't have to subpoena because he gave everything back?

Maybe they did subpoena but kept it quiet and Obama kept it quiet, like Trumpykins decided to do back in early summer when we didn't hear a peep?

Maybe they did issue a search warrant for anything that was withheld, but went in quietly like they tried to do with Trumpykins before he publicly freaked out and wailed about being persecuted?

Or, maybe your just illustrating how we have a two-tiered justice system now. A free pass for the elite establishmentarians and a corrupt justice system that serves and protects the interests of the elite for the rest of us.

[K_Dubb]

Or, maybe your just illustrating how we have a two-tiered justice system now. A free pass for the elite establishmentarians and a corrupt justice system that serves and protects the interests of the elite for the rest of us.

LOL he is being treated like an elite; any normal person caught with that stuff would be frog-marched into the pokey.

[Dr. MD MD]

LOL he is being treated like an elite; any normal person caught with that stuff would be frog-marched into the pokey.

Like Obama was?

[Yorkshire pud]

Why are you so salty on Drumpf? It seems like we can work on letting this go.

As we're in a period of détente 😉 I'll view your question at face value and try to answer fully.
When he came down the escalator at trump tower to an appreciative but paid audience, it was considered by many a joke that this so called reality star (In reality he hasn't a clue about running a business) could possibly run for POTUS with any degree of success. He ran on the platform of being unbuyable, and therefore he didn't depend on doners to finance his campaign (Oh did we fall for that one!).

 His first political ally was a certain Jeff Sessions, who championed this total political virgin (That went well!); in primary debates his MO (As in life in general) was to basically insult and denigrate the others for any reason, almost always lying to make his point, with absolutely no pretense at being embarrassed he was blatantly mendacious.
Those who really knew him, knew him to be this way and several genuinely believed he'd be found out (Though it was already there in the open) and dispatched to obscurity.
 His lies ranged from the bizarre and unnecessary (How many floors trump tower had!) to the disgusting and vile; that he'd lost 'hundreds of friends' on 9/11 and had helped the rescue to dig out bodies. Back in 2001 on the day of the WTC destruction he naturally had to point out that the twin towers were no longer the tallest structures in NY and surprise surprise, trump tower was!

He lied his way through life from childhood because he could. His parents sent him to a military school where one of his tutors wrote later that he was the worst student he'd had the misfortune to try and teach, try because Donny had and has an attention span that lasts seconds at best. He is unteachable not least of all because he genuinely thinks he knows everything or thinks he can fool everyone into believing that.

 It quickly became apparent when he took office this would be an issue; things like the DPB that included highly sensitive and important detailed briefings, he had no time for and would quickly move onto his last rally size or the fact someone said something negative on TV about him. This insecure immature and completely out of his depth asshole was the POTUS! His staff tried to tailor the briefings in pictures and graphs to get him to absorb the information, to no avail. He simply wasn't interested in the actual job, sure he wanted the 747, the WH, the adoration, but working? Working is for losers right? And just why did he want/need to take government owned papers to his golf club in FL when he was no longer POTUS? Trade? Blackmail evidence? Revenge?

We've been told innumerable times (By him) he's the most persecuted man in history! The most persecuted billionaire? Probably; no not really! Firstly, he likely isn't a billionaire. He tried to sue Tim O' Brien because of a single paragraph in a biography in which O'Brien stated trump was probably worth in the region of $250 Million and not the 3, 7, 10 billion that trump variously claimed he was worth. In court the judge asked trump how he calculated his worth, and with a straight face trump said it depended how he felt on any given day! The case was thrown out.

In his 2015 campaign to try and garner support he claimed he'd started a fund to raise money for the VA, to the tune of $3 million. What a wonderful generous gesture eh? Well it would have been if that's what happened, but instead less than $250000 actually went to any charity and he pocketed the rest. But he and his spawn left the most disgusting blatant grift for later when they stole millions that was intended to go to St Judes. All of it. The result was he and his equally revolting effluent of a family have been banned for good to hold any official capacity in charitable fund raising in NY state. Who steals from children with life threatening illnesses and isn't ashamed about it? No apology, no remorse.
As a human he's effluent. He's up there with Pol Pot, Stalin, Hitler, Ide Amin. As a politician he's completely useless. His one overriding question his entire life has been 'what is in it for me?' It naturally extended into his time as POTUS, he is desperately insecure, about everything. He reaches levels of absurdity and toe curling embarrassment at times with his lack of vocabulary. He has no sense of humour, at all. To him, 'winning' a debate is just piling on insult after insult most of which is unfounded mendacity. He's cruel; and a bully. And like all bullies he's a coward, throwing even those close under the bus to protect his own skin. There is serious debate over who in his own family he'll sacrifice to get out of any shit sticking to him in the NY fraud cases. Serious because it's likely rather than an abstract construct.

Michael Cohen who worked for him as his lawyer for a dozen or so years was one such sacrifice; Sure he went to prison and paid his dues for lying, but what the trump cult 'forget' to mention is he was convicted for lying FOR trump. Because in his naivety he believed trump, that big believer in 'loyalty' would also take the responsibility of his part in misappropriation of election funds that paid off two women trump had had affairs with; one of whom seven months after Melania gave birth to Barron. Oh the pretzel dancing the right wing Christian evangelists must have with their holier than thou mantras over that one! But naturally, Cohen was no longer any use to trump, and in prison, even less so.

The many accusations of his unwanted sexual advances and even rape almost seem like (but shouldn't) a sideline to his overall disgustingness. He even boasted going into girls' (NOT women's) dressing rooms at beauty pageants, that yes he'd have 'dated' Ivanka if she hadn't been his daughter, though the photos showing that body language interaction might suggest it wasn't just an aspiration.

Throw in his total dereliction of duty on any given responsivity and he's an all round pile of shit.

You asked why so salty? That's a précis. You shouldn't ask how I really feel. It might run to a couple of chapters/volumes.

[Yorkshire pud]

Or, maybe your just illustrating how we have a two-tiered justice system now. A free pass for the elite establishmentarians and a corrupt justice system that serves and protects the interests of the elite for the rest of us.

I see, would crapping in a gold toilet, having private jets, several golf clubs in the US and abroad, (With $200 000 membership fees), 10000 sq ft apartment qualify as elite?

[Yorkshire pud]

Like Obama was?

I'd love to know how you apparently went through med school and the clerkships that followed until you qualified without another medic not catching you off guard and injecting you with a pethidine and insulin cocktail.

[Dr. MD MD]

I'd love to know how you apparently went through med school and the clerkships that followed until you qualified without another medic not catching you off guard and injecting you with a pethidine and insulin cocktail.

Because not everyone is an immoral, Koolaid drinking cult member willing to commit murder for their beliefs or the good of the state, like you?

[Dr. MD MD]

I see, would crapping in a gold toilet, having private jets, several golf clubs in the US and abroad, (With $200 000 membership fees), 10000 sq ft apartment qualify as elite?

Possibly but not necessarily. It seemed Trump was willing to sacrifice a good deal of his gold to Make America Great Again, which is why they won't let him in the club.

[Dr. MD MD]

As we're in a period of détente 😉 I'll view your question at face value and try to answer fully.
When he came down the escalator at trump tower to an appreciative but paid audience, it was considered by many a joke that this so called reality star (In reality he hasn't a clue about running a business) could possibly run for POTUS with any degree of success. He ran on the platform of being unbuyable, and therefore he didn't depend on doners to finance his campaign (Oh did we fall for that one!).

 His first political ally was a certain Jeff Sessions, who championed this total political virgin (That went well!); in primary debates his MO (As in life in general) was to basically insult and denigrate the others for any reason, almost always lying to make his point, with absolutely no pretense at being embarrassed he was blatantly mendacious.
Those who really knew him, knew him to be this way and several genuinely believed he'd be found out (Though it was already there in the open) and dispatched to obscurity.
 His lies ranged from the bizarre and unnecessary (How many floors trump tower had!) to the disgusting and vile; that he'd lost 'hundreds of friends' on 9/11 and had helped the rescue to dig out bodies. Back in 2001 on the day of the WTC destruction he naturally had to point out that the twin towers were no longer the tallest structures in NY and surprise surprise, trump tower was!

He lied his way through life from childhood because he could. His parents sent him to a military school where one of his tutors wrote later that he was the worst student he'd had the misfortune to try and teach, try because Donny had and has an attention span that lasts seconds at best. He is unteachable not least of all because he genuinely thinks he knows everything or thinks he can fool everyone into believing that.

 It quickly became apparent when he took office this would be an issue; things like the DPB that included highly sensitive and important detailed briefings, he had no time for and would quickly move onto his last rally size or the fact someone said something negative on TV about him. This insecure immature and completely out of his depth asshole was the POTUS! His staff tried to tailor the briefings in pictures and graphs to get him to absorb the information, to no avail. He simply wasn't interested in the actual job, sure he wanted the 747, the WH, the adoration, but working? Working is for losers right? And just why did he want/need to take government owned papers to his golf club in FL when he was no longer POTUS? Trade? Blackmail evidence? Revenge?

We've been told innumerable times (By him) he's the most persecuted man in history! The most persecuted billionaire? Probably; no not really! Firstly, he likely isn't a billionaire. He tried to sue Tim O' Brien because of a single paragraph in a biography in which O'Brien stated trump was probably worth in the region of $250 Million and not the 3, 7, 10 billion that trump variously claimed he was worth. In court the judge asked trump how he calculated his worth, and with a straight face trump said it depended how he felt on any given day! The case was thrown out.

In his 2015 campaign to try and garner support he claimed he'd started a fund to raise money for the VA, to the tune of $3 million. What a wonderful generous gesture eh? Well it would have been if that's what happened, but instead less than $250000 actually went to any charity and he pocketed the rest. But he and his spawn left the most disgusting blatant grift for later when they stole millions that was intended to go to St Judes. All of it. The result was he and his equally revolting effluent of a family have been banned for good to hold any official capacity in charitable fund raising in NY state. Who steals from children with life threatening illnesses and isn't ashamed about it? No apology, no remorse.
As a human he's effluent. He's up there with Pol Pot, Stalin, Hitler, Ide Amin. As a politician he's completely useless. His one overriding question his entire life has been 'what is in it for me?' It naturally extended into his time as POTUS, he is desperately insecure, about everything. He reaches levels of absurdity and toe curling embarrassment at times with his lack of vocabulary. He has no sense of humour, at all. To him, 'winning' a debate is just piling on insult after insult most of which is unfounded mendacity. He's cruel; and a bully. And like all bullies he's a coward, throwing even those close under the bus to protect his own skin. There is serious debate over who in his own family he'll sacrifice to get out of any shit sticking to him in the NY fraud cases. Serious because it's likely rather than an abstract construct.

Michael Cohen who worked for him as his lawyer for a dozen or so years was one such sacrifice; Sure he went to prison and paid his dues for lying, but what the trump cult 'forget' to mention is he was convicted for lying FOR trump. Because in his naivety he believed trump, that big believer in 'loyalty' would also take the responsibility of his part in misappropriation of election funds that paid off two women trump had had affairs with; one of whom seven months after Melania gave birth to Barron. Oh the pretzel dancing the right wing Christian evangelists must have with their holier than thou mantras over that one! But naturally, Cohen was no longer any use to trump, and in prison, even less so.

The many accusations of his unwanted sexual advances and even rape almost seem like (but shouldn't) a sideline to his overall disgustingness. He even boasted going into girls' (NOT women's) dressing rooms at beauty pageants, that yes he'd have 'dated' Ivanka if she hadn't been his daughter, though the photos showing that body language interaction might suggest it wasn't just an aspiration.

Throw in his total dereliction of duty on any given responsivity and he's an all round pile of shit.

You asked why so salty? That's a précis. You shouldn't ask how I really feel. It might run to a couple of chapters/volumes.

Well, that is of Jackstar TL;DR length...

I'll allow it.

[K_Dubb]

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Like Obama was?

Obama gave them back when asked like an adult, did not stomp around in a tantrum saying they're mine.  Which is the only explanation that has surfaced so far as to why Trumpykins had them and is plainly wrong.

Let me try to explain it another way:  I am an American citizen.  I was his boss.  I fired him.  He threw a fit, skipped the exit interview, and now I find out he has proprietary information that belongs to me, to the new boss I hired.  And has never bothered to explain why.  Fork it over dude.

And yet you chuckleheads leap to his defense and are not even curious.  If it were anyone else you'd recognize he's just being a dickwad, makes me laugh, you are all besotted 🧡

Why did he have them, doc? After a year of requests, and a subpoena?

[Dr. MD MD]

[/quote
Obama gave them back when asked like an adult, did not stomp around in a tantrum saying they're mine.  Which is the only explanation that has surfaced so far as to why Trumpykins had them and is plainly wrong.

Let me try to explain it another way:  I am an American citizen.  I was his boss.  I fired him.  He threw a fit, skipped the exit interview, and now I find out he has proprietary information that belongs to me, to the new boss I hired.  And has never bothered to explain why.  Fork it over dude.

And yet you chuckleheads leap to his defense and are not even curious.  If it were anyone else you'd recognize he's just being a dickwad, makes me laugh, you are all besotted 🧡

Why did he have them, doc? After a year of requests, and a subpoena?

It's stunning how naive an adult can be. You are an adult, right? First, you didn't fire Trump. The great majority of people voted for him. You simply rigged a federal election in favor of your establishment puppet. Second, while you're demanding documents from your employees why not ask for all the redacted documents for the last 25 years? I'll tell you why. It's because it would show what a corrupt shit show your government has become. I think you're the besotted chucklehead here. I really do. All your posts are pretty much love letters to a corrupt establishment. It's because you're a spineless faggot who loves being dominated by bad boy types. Just admit it.



When we start justifying the corruption of one party, while
criminalizing and persecuting the other we're in trouble, folks.

[Yorkshire pud]

Possibly but not necessarily. It seemed Trump was willing to sacrifice a good deal of his gold to Make America Great Again, which is why they won't let him in the club.

Oh fuck you do make me laugh.. Sacrificed his gold? Says who? Oh yeah, let me guess...Donny 'Never tell the truth' Trump perchance? He's never sacrificed anything in his fucking life, you unspeakable cretin.

[Yorkshire pud]

Because not everyone is an immoral, Koolaid drinking cult member willing to commit murder for their beliefs or the good of the state, like you?

Are you accusing me of murder? I honestly cannot believe you're remotely in any field of medicine, not even a janitor in a morgue.

Thing is, the coup attempt on Jan 6th resulted in dozens of police being injured, five killed, and the intention to hang the then VP, and your boy encouraging it. One of drump's cult got herself shot as she attempted to break into the chamber, and drump has since (And predictably) milked her death and made money from it..And you preach about morals? Sit on a spiked railing and push down.

[Yorkshire pud]

[/quote

Why did he have them, doc? After a year of requests, and a subpoena?

I bet my next cheese sandwich he won't answer that exact question...

It's stunning how naive an adult can be. You are an adult, right? First, you didn't fire Trump. The great majority of people voted for him. You simply rigged a federal election in favor of your establishment puppet. Second, while you're demanding documents from your employees why not ask for all the redacted documents for the last 25 years? I'll tell you why. It's because it would show what a corrupt shit show your government has become. I think you're the besotted chucklehead here. I really do. All your posts are pretty much love letters to a corrupt establishment. It's because you're a spineless faggot who loves being dominated by bad boy types. Just admit it.

When we start justifying the corruption of one party, while
criminalizing and persecuting the other we're in trouble, folks.

Yep, seems I win.

But I can't resist dissecting his bollox.

First, you didn't fire Trump. The great majority of people voted for him. You simply rigged a federal election in favor of your establishment puppet

Yes he was fired; no they didn't; no it wasn't. Funny really how Rudy et al ALL claim this on TV, in front of garden landscapers premises, on podcasts etc..yet NOT ONE has presented the same argument or evidence in the sixty courts that have thrown out their complaint. NOT ONE.
You are so full of shit and yes a cult member, so entrenched that if drump said that the sky was really green on a clear summer's day you'd accept that as fact. As a matter of interest, how much of your hard earned have you donated to his 'Free America' PAC? I have news for you, it's for his legal fees.

[K_Dubb]

It's stunning how naive an adult can be. You are an adult, right? First, you didn't fire Trump. The great majority of people voted for him. You simply rigged a federal election in favor of your establishment puppet. Second, while you're demanding documents from your employees why not ask for all the redacted documents for the last 25 years? I'll tell you why. It's because it would show what a corrupt shit show your government has become. I think you're the besotted chucklehead here. I really do. All your posts are pretty much love letters to a corrupt establishment. It's because you're a spineless faggot who loves being dominated by bad boy types. Just admit it.



When we start justifying the corruption of one party, while
criminalizing and persecuting the other we're in trouble, folks.

Why did he have them, doc?

Alternatively, you can treat us to another rhapsody on your ass kazoo 🥳

[Yorkshire pud]

Why did he have them, doc?

Alternatively, you can treat us to another rhapsody on your ass kazoo 🥳

The cheese sandwich bet stands.. 

[Jackstar]

Why did he have them, doc?

I'd allow it.

the coup attempt on Jan 6th resulted in dozens of police being injured, five killed

Five killed?

Names.

[Yorkshire pud]

I'd allow it.


Five killed?

Names.

Hey, MD accused me of murder, I'm not going to let semantics get in the way when drump was wholey responsible for the deaths (and threats of) and injuries of all involved. Yes, even the deluded sops who were in the riot.

[Asuka Langley]

Thing is, the coup attempt on Jan 6th resulted in dozens of police being injured, five killed,

Ashli Babbitt was the only person killed (police shot her she was unarmed).

One cop died of a heart attack and a few committed suicide a few days later.

No police were killed my MAGA supporters, sorry bruh.

[aldousburbank]

Ashli Babbitt was the only person killed (police shot her she was unarmed).

One cop died of a heart attack and a few committed suicide a few days later.

No police were killed my MAGA supporters, sorry bruh.

Semantics

[pate]

...the coup attemptmostly peaceful protest on Jan 6th resulted in dozens of police being injured, five killed, and ...

Could you provide the names of the five police officers "killed," time and date of their deaths, and what the "cause of death" was determined to be (in each of the five cases)?

Some sort of supporting documentation to go along with that information would be nice as well.

TIA

-p

[aldousburbank]

Could you provide the names of the five police officers "killed," time and date of their deaths, and what the "cause of death" was determined to be (in each of the five cases)?

Some sort of supporting documentation to go along with that information would be nice as well.

TIA

-p

Semantics

[pate]

Semantics

I am anti-Semantic, thank you very much.

-p

[Jackstar]

Hey, MD accused me of murder

... you ARE a murderer!!!

[Dr. MD MD]

Oh fuck you do make me laugh.. Sacrificed his gold? Says who? Oh yeah, let me guess...Donny 'Never tell the truth' Trump perchance? He's never sacrificed anything in his fucking life, you unspeakable cretin.

Unlike his predecessor or successor he refused to accept payment for being president. He also funded a lot of his campaign himself.

[Dr. MD MD]

Hey, MD accused me of murder, I'm not going to let semantics get in the way when drump was wholey responsible for the deaths (and threats of) and injuries of all involved. Yes, even the deluded sops who were in the riot.

Sorry but weren't you questioning why I hadn't already been murdered by someone who shares your beliefs?