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Kidnostad3

Quote from: Metron2267 on December 21, 2018, 02:10:24 PM
Looks like the Kidnostad doctrine is openly articulated in Bush-land. :(

https://www.bushcenter.org/catalyst/immigration/rooney-boot-american-globalist.html

WINTER 2018
ISSUE
09
Is Being an American and a Globalist at Odds?
A Conversation with Council on Foreign Relations Senior Fellow Max Boot and Bush Institute Economic Growth Initiative Director Matthew Rooney
Is being an American and a globalist at odds? Or is this a false choice?
Boot: This is a false choice. There is no tension between being an "American" and a "globalist." Just as there is no tension between being (in my case) an Upper West Sider, a Jewish American, a New Yorker, a conservative, a San Francisco 49ers and New York Knicks fan, an American, a “citizen of the world” (meaning, simply, a world traveler), etc. We all have multiple identities that co-exist.
Some loyalties, of course, are felt stronger than others â€" and there is no question that I feel greater loyalty to the United States than I do to either my state or to the world as a whole. But that doesn’t mean that I should have an antagonist relationship with the smaller or larger entities.
It’s not even clear what being a “globalist” means since it’s become an all-purpose term of derision. But if it’s someone who believes that America is stronger when we take a leadership role in world affairs, that free trade is in our benefit, that we should be open to immigrants, and that we should champion a free and liberal world order â€" then sign me up..

Do you have a problem with that statement?  You do understand that he is talking about legal immigrants don’t you?  (Otherwise he would have said “illegal immigrants”)   Also, he is using the word “liberal” in the same sense that the founding fathers used it when they described our system of government as “liberal democracy.”  He is not saying that the world order should be liberal as in “liberal democrat.”  Just sayin’.

“Liberal democracy is a liberal political ideology and a form of government in which representative democracy operates under the principles of classical liberalism. ... Liberal democracies usually have universal suffrage, granting all adult citizens the right to vote regardless of race, gender or property ownership. Wikipedia.”

You still haven’t told us what your definition of “globalism” is.  I’m including the following article so you can see the diversity of opinion that exists just among conservatives.

https://www.lawliberty.org/2017/12/20/understanding-the-conservative-split-over-globalization/





Nucky Nolan

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 20, 2018, 06:25:39 PM
Not at all. I just don’t want to interrupt your bunk time with kid.

You seem to make a lot of "you're gay" posts. It could be a case of "he, who dealt it, "smelt" it".

Nucky Nolan

Quote from: Gd5150 on December 20, 2018, 06:32:06 PM
Amazing what big cans will do.

The only big cans were in our refrigerator. Two (snarky jokes, wet panties) out of three ain't bad, though.  ;)

Nucky Nolan

Quote from: albrecht on December 20, 2018, 06:23:49 PM
Coke/Pepsi is a nefarious false dilemma construction by "them" to create diabetes and bad teeth (in addition to making $) to help depopulate the earth. 

On a more serious note I recall a relative, now dead, who had some elaborate theory about Coke/Pepsi with regard to foreign policy and how bottling expansion to other countries, and even down to what vending machines were at consulates and bases, depended on who was in office and the State Dept.

That's why I'm a libertarian fan of Ron Paul. He's the RC Cola of politicians while Bernie Sanders is Big K at a discount.

Nucky Nolan

Quote from: Metron2267 on December 20, 2018, 07:34:11 PM
All true, and all corporate globalist BS:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1VM2eLhvsSM

That's the commercial I was referring to. I bet that you hate Mean Joe Greene too.  ;)

Nucky Nolan

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on December 21, 2018, 07:31:21 AM
If the Indian was gay they would have pretty much covered all bets.

Batman and Robin covered those bets. Where's a DC Comics Chris Hansen when you need one?

albrecht

Quote from: Nucky Nolan on December 21, 2018, 06:23:16 PM
Batman and Robin covered those bets. Where's a DC Comics Chris Hansen when you need one?
In one of his weaker bits the great Radio Jock "The Greaseman" used to do a bit about Batman and Throbbin with various homo references. Not his best stuff, but was still funny with lines like "putting his hand on the thigh of his young, tender assistant" as they would take off in the Batmobie to fight a crime, often done by the fudgepacker syndicate.

Nucky Nolan

Quote from: Azzerae on December 21, 2018, 02:40:50 PM
You’re inferring I lean toward a certain side of the aisle.

Stopping idiotic memes is a bipartisan issue. Some conservatives also post idiotic memes so, like adult onset diabetes, political party and political philosophy are irrelevant in the campaign to stop this scourge.

Nucky Nolan

Quote from: Metron2267 on December 21, 2018, 02:54:04 PM


Now, *that's* a meme! Reality serves as both humor and illustration, busting a true organ of fake news.

Nucky Nolan

Quote from: Metron2267 on December 21, 2018, 04:02:27 PM
OK then, Satanism it is.

Any others?

Asking for not a friend.



Maybe the devil hates my appliances too. I don't know if I should call a handyman or an exorcist.

Nucky Nolan

Quote from: albrecht on December 21, 2018, 06:29:53 PM
In one of his weaker bits the great Radio Jock "The Greaseman" used to do a bit about Batman and Throbbin with various homo references. Not his best stuff, but was still funny with lines like "putting his hand on the thigh of his young, tender assistant" as they would take off in the Batmobie to fight a crime, often done by the fudgepacker syndicate.

SNL did a take on this theme too, back in the day when it was watchable. It's more like TDS than SNL now.

Metron2267

Quote from: WildCard on December 21, 2018, 06:10:33 PM
One man's open mind is another man's garbage can.

Says the troll who just upbraided me for lacking "nuance" and having a "closed mind"...

It is to laugh~ ;D

QuoteLet me count the ways -

>his endorsement of blatant frauds like Starfire Tor

Yes, she Anne and Whitley allegedly had a shared "time slip"...so?

http://www.unknowncountry.com/dreamland/starfire-tor-core-matrix-dark-matter-aberration-and-future-mankind-0


Quote>writes a great b&d/s&m story
< https://www.scribd.com/document/194411862/Pain-by-Whitley-Strieber > then say - "Pain was used by sleazy people to try to claim that I was somehow involved in sado-masochistic sex. I found this so offensive that I basically shelved the story for 25 years. It is not a sex story. It is about the dangerous sacred."
http://www.unknowncountry.com/whitleysroom/pain-short-story-whitley-strieber#ixzz5aMgAoiJK

So you're lumping him with Scooter Libby for his creative writing?

"My research was for a novel. In the early eighties I was just  beginning to see the novel as a form of political art. Previously I had viewed it as entertainment, and what political content my work had was no more than fortuitous.z'

Research precedes a novel, as no doubt it did with "The Hunger",  but that doesn't make Whitley a vampire...or a werewolf ::)

Quote>writes a book about getting ass raped by aliens then acts like he's Christ on the cross when people inevitably mock him.

A lot of people have had analogous ET visitations. I bet you have a hardon for Travis Walton too... :-\

Quote>worst of all, if milab abductions really are worse than alien abductions, encouraging contactees to come out, go see a shrink, and undergo hypnotherapy. That's a good way to get attention from all the wrong people.

The preferable outcome being to cover it all up, internalize, and seek NO psychological counseling or therapy?

QuoteRight, the techniques of which were taught in mystery schools a.k.a., secret societies. (Christianity was a secret society before it became the state religion.) Although post internet, that may be a mute point. I'm not sure there are any "secrets" left.

Of course there are - do some research on reincarnation and near-death experiences. Dr. Eben Alexander would be a jumping off point.

Quote"I was in the death struggle with self: God and Satan fought for my soul those three long hours. God conquered â€" now I have only one doubt left â€" which of the twain was God?"
-AC

"Christ himself (i.e. whoever is meant by this name in this passage) callously disowns his mother and his brethren (Luke VIII, 19). And he repeatedly makes discipleship contingent on the total renunciation of all family ties. He would not even allow a man to attend his father's funeral!"

- Aleister Crowley

Long as you're fronting for Satanists...and I have to say that comes as a bit of a surprise. :-\

Nucky Nolan

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on December 21, 2018, 07:06:03 PM
I was attacked by my Sonicare tooth brush once.  It got halfway up my left nostril before I could stop it.

Blame the Clintons. It likely was made in China.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Nucky Nolan on December 21, 2018, 06:43:46 PM
Maybe the devil hates my appliances too. I don't know if I should call a handyman or an exorcist.

I was attacked by my Sonicare tooth brush once.  It got halfway up my left nostril before I could stop it.




Metron2267

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on December 21, 2018, 06:13:16 PM
Do you have a problem with that statement?  You do understand that he is talking about legal immigrants don’t you?  (Otherwise he would have said “illegal immigrants”)

Nice of you to context CFR toadie Max Boot for me, I really have no further doubts as to your adherence to globalism. And frankly how is that YOU have some special insight into which kind of immigrants he's speaking of? Put it this way, America doesn't have a legal immigrant crisis - so any discussion of said would be a moot point. Capisce?

QuoteAlso, he is using the word “liberal” in the same sense that the founding fathers used it when they described our system of government as “liberal democracy.”  He is not saying that the world order should be liberal as in “liberal democrat.”  Just sayin’.

How do you know this, are you two close correspondents?

Quote“Liberal democracy is a liberal political ideology and a form of government in which representative democracy operates under the principles of classical liberalism. ... Liberal democracies usually have universal suffrage, granting all adult citizens the right to vote regardless of race, gender or property ownership. Wikipedia.”

Ah the famed Wikipedia graffiti scholar is back with his appeal to perceived authority.

How many socialist nations with pseudo-democracy do you endorse - mainly the Scandinavian ones, or do stretch the idiom of democracy to all liberal democracies with figurehead "royal" families?

Do you even think for yourself?

QuoteYou still haven’t told us what your definition of “globalism” is.

That's a Goddamned fucking LIE you asshole! I posted a citation from the Conservapedia and buttressed it with an unambiguous dictionary definition. Do you think that because I posted them yesterday they somehow no longer exist?

QuoteI’m including the following article so you can see the diversity of opinion that exists just among conservatives.

https://www.lawliberty.org/2017/12/20/understanding-the-conservative-split-over-globalization/

Again with the self-serving appeal to perceived authority. We really have nothing to say to each other on this subject. After all your reply to my citations was a rather close-minded "rejected" so I suggest you wiki yourself into a lather of community edited political "correctness" if that's what cleanses your soul of fronting for a movement that diminishes actual American sovereignty.

Enjoy your corrupted UN, for they are the living, breathing nexus of globalism. >:( >:( >:(




Metron2267

Quote from: Nucky Nolan on December 21, 2018, 06:18:00 PM
That's why I'm a libertarian fan of Ron Paul. He's the RC Cola of politicians while Bernie Sanders is Big K at a discount.

Good line there...and not at all untrue. Sadly the endgame of Bernie would make Eddie Lampert weep. ::)

Metron2267

Quote from: Nucky Nolan on December 21, 2018, 06:19:37 PM
That's the commercial I was referring to. I bet that you hate Mean Joe Greene too.  ;)
Nah...giving a kid a jersey at the stadium is decidedly non-globalist. ;)

Metron2267

Quote from: Nucky Nolan on December 21, 2018, 06:43:46 PM
Maybe the devil hates my appliances too. I don't know if I should call a handyman or an exorcist.
That faith healer in Brazil allegedly zapped some police computers too... ???


albrecht

Quote from: Nucky Nolan on December 21, 2018, 06:43:46 PM
Maybe the devil hates my appliances too. I don't know if I should call a handyman or an exorcist.
Wasn't there such a fellow? RIP. Name escapes me right now, dammit. HVAC repairman and exorcist/demon-hunter who had a show.

albrecht

Quote from: Nucky Nolan on December 21, 2018, 06:57:27 PM
SNL did a take on this theme too, back in the day when it was watchable. It's more like TDS than SNL now.
Greaseman is up there with Art, Hendrie, and Bruce Williams in my personal radio hall of fame.  A genius with his bits, soundboard, euphemisms for sex acts to avoid sanction, and characters.

Metron2267

Quote from: albrecht on December 21, 2018, 07:22:12 PM
Greaseman is up there with Art, Hendrie, and Bruce Williams in my personal radio hall of fame. 

Some other names to consider: Larry Glick (WBZ - Boston) Michael Jackson (KABC - LA) Tom Leykis (KFI - LA) and the inimitable Herb Jepko and his Nitecaps(KSL- Salt Lake City).

And yeah, I was a big Bruce Williams fan, Tiger... ;)

http://www.brucewilliams.com

You have to love the lack of ego to post from Talkers magazine: " The sixth greatest  talk show host in radio history."

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Metron2267 on December 21, 2018, 07:14:52 PM
Nice of you to context CFR toadie Max Boot for me, I really have no further doubts as to your adherence to globalism. And frankly how is that YOU have some special insight into which kind of immigrants he's speaking of? Put it this way, America doesn't have a legal immigrant crisis - so any discussion of said would be a moot point. Capisce?

How do you know this, are you two close correspondents?

Ah the famed Wikipedia graffiti scholar is back with his appeal to perceived authority.

How many socialist nations with pseudo-democracy do you endorse - mainly the Scandinavian ones, or do stretch the idiom of democracy to all liberal democracies with figurehead "royal" families?

Do you even think for yourself?

That's a Goddamned fucking LIE you asshole! I posted a citation from the Conservapedia and buttressed it with an unambiguous dictionary definition. Do you think that because I posted them yesterday they somehow no longer exist?

Again with the self-serving appeal to perceived authority. We really have nothing to say to each other on this subject. After all your reply to my citations was a rather close-minded "rejected" so I suggest you wiki yourself into a lather of community edited political "correctness" if that's what cleanses your soul of fronting for a movement that diminishes actual American sovereignty.

Enjoy your corrupted UN, for they are the living, breathing nexus of globalism. >:( >:( >:(


Wow.  This post says it all.  No need for comment. 





Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on December 21, 2018, 07:49:16 PM

Wow.  This post says it all.  No need for comment.

Do you mean your lazy, vapid mind is just too stupid to come up with one? ???

Metron2267

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on December 21, 2018, 07:49:16 PM

Wow.  This post says it all.  No need for comment.

You forgot to use all caps this time:

QuoteNOT RESPONSIVE.  REJECTED

;D

Kidnostad3

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 21, 2018, 07:52:32 PM
Do you mean your lazy, vapid mind is just too stupid to come up with one? ???

Nope.  I’m genuinely embarrassed for the guy. 

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on December 21, 2018, 07:57:19 PM
Nope.  I’m genuinely embarrassed for the guy.

It’s your own posts and only you responding to them that you should be embarrassed about. ;D

Metron2267

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on December 21, 2018, 07:57:19 PM
Nope.  I’m genuinely embarrassed for the guy.

Nope. You're genuinely out of the globalist closet and wondering how to rebrand yourself. :-\

Kidnostad3

I believe we are experiencing a stunned silence.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on December 21, 2018, 08:00:07 PM
I believe we are experiencing a stunned silence.

Huh?! We both just responded to you. They must’ve recently increased your meds or something. Either that or you’re having a stroke.  ;D

Metron2267

Sssshhh...I think he put himself on "ignore"... ::)

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