President Donald J. Trump

[Yorkshire pud]

I don't know what the trouble is all about.  Didn't we let California secede to become part of Mexico?

Other way round isn't? Wasn't originally Spanish? No?

[albrecht]

I haven't refused to answer it; I thought it an obvious reply. Yes of course but the fence is to demarcate the house next door and the locks have been used all my life. Nothing to do with immigration though. I'm no more worried now about being assaulted or killed as ever I was. The few times I've been jumped when I was younger, each time was a low life white scumbag. And I was rescued in one instance by an Indian kid.
I was head butted by a former colleague whizzed on speed, at a firms night out, straight out of the blue (I was one of two who he assaulted), and he very nearly lost his job over it. He was fortunate that I put in a word for him and pleaded he shouldn't lose his job- having a wife and two kids. I told him though that it was the last time and to stop with the shit.

And importing criminals will help us solve the criminal "low life white scumbag" problem? What the terrorists or cartels will take them out? And how is adding poor, uneducated, illiterate, criminal, diseased, or even terrorist help out the problems we face with regard to crime, healthcare, education, terrorism? You think if you import a few million undocumented and not background checked Hondurans, Mexicans, and Syrians that will help the NHS? But since you are willing maybe we could put our illegals on ships and send them over to your paradise to help the the "low life white" problem?

[albrecht]

Other way round isn't? Wasn't originally Spanish? No?

Well some of the Indians (feathers not dots) might have something to say about that. But, yes, that is the general plan. The illegals and their apologists call it "reconquista." They formerly had something called "The Plan of San Diego" but that didn't work. They know, like the Irish up there, and the Muslim rapeugees moving into Europe that procreation is an even better way to take over a country than terrorism or war (especially the the enemy country has a much better military.)

[ItsOver]

Other way round isn't? Wasn't originally Spanish? No?

Yes, it was.  Then it became part of the U.S.  I'm pretty sure we've given it back again.  A beautiful locale but probably a good idea, señor.

[Yorkshire pud]

Well some of the Indians (feathers not dots) might have something to say about that. But, yes, that is the general plan. The illegals and their apologists call it "reconquista." They formerly had something called "The Plan of San Diego" but that didn't work. They know, like the Irish up there, and the Muslim rapeugees moving into Europe that procreation is an even better way to take over a country than terrorism or war (especially the the enemy country has a much better military.)

Or even the Polyensians..

[Yorkshire pud]

Yes, it was.  Then it became part of the U.S.  I'm pretty sure we've given it back again.  A beautiful locale but probably a good idea, señor.

You'll be fine as long as the Danes don't try and take back the north east coast.

[albrecht]

You'll be fine as long as the Danes don't try and take back the north east coast.

More Norwegians, though they didn't have countries back then. I'm all for them taking over. Have some problems with some of their taxation policies but nice, clean countries and friendly, healthy, educated people and we could always use more gas&oil. As long as they don't bring their crazy immigration and rapeugee policies with them.
ps: sorry you were attacked.Years my dad got attacked by some "youths" while bringing groceries from his car to the front door. Lucky he has a thick-head, ha. But the "youths" pistol whipped him. Broad daylight, suburban neighborhood, and only took a wallet with not much cash. Police took a report but treated it like "you're lucky they didn't shoot you." No follow up, no request to be in a line-up. Etc just "cancel your credit cards" and "you live close to the highway and this is just a typical crime of opportunity." (Near DC where there is a heavy "youth" percentages in the poor areas.) Now there are machete attacks by MS-13 gangs (Honduran) on people (usually rival gangs) in the area because of the increase in immigration, often illegal, to add to the mix. We have school brawls between blacks and Hispanics (the white kids just cower and try to keep their heads down if their family is too poor to send them to a private school or move somewhere better.)

[Inglorious Bitch]

About time, since often the police or the government won't protect people from the thugs, illegals, and various other criminals and cartel members who cross Obama's open-border or are "caught and released" per the Obama Doctrine. People should start looking after their homes, family, and neighborhood since the police, in many cases, are too afraid due to political correctness and threats from Obama's DOJ to do anything about crime. Look how Obama and local municipalities allow gangs of illegals or BLMs or "activists" to riot, burn and loot, shut down streets and even highways, even try to shut down an airport, and even attack people and police and destroy police cars. Nobody wants mob rule, well except some on the left, but if the police and government won't defend our borders and fight crime at some point the people will. And, as we know from history, that can lead to some bad consequences some times. But even the most liberal a person once their child is shot and killed in front of him by an illegal- who has been released per "sanctuary city" and Obama policy- in broad daylight while taking a stroll, their wife and children die in some DUI accident by an drunk illegal, or their girl, or even boy, is raped by a "refugee" due to his "sexual emergency" or illegal alien says: enough is enough.

+1 million   This is the post of the day.

[ItsOver]

You'll be fine as long as the Danes don't try and take back the north east coast.

I'm all for that.  One of the hottest ladies I've had the pleasure to know was a Dane.  But the Danish don't deserve to be punished by the NE.  Too many Mass-holes.

[Inglorious Bitch]

Is being killed by an illegal immigrant more dead? A two year old killed his mother this week. She wasn't an illegal immigrant.

Boy, two, accidentally shoots mother in Milwaukee - http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-36162465

Yorkie, you know I love you, but please stop defending illegals. It is my country that is being destroyed not yours. You don't live here, pay taxes here or are daily affected by the diminishing standard of living here as more and more illiterate freeloaders are placed on the public dole. Imagine a never ending army of Falkies. If you believe this strongly that there should be no borders and that we owe anyone on the planet a living, then please put your money where your mouth is and allow refugees into your own home. It seems to me that those defending illegal immigration are happy to do so unless it involves really backing up their beliefs by taking some of these very people they are defending. Take 2 or 3 people in indefinably and then get back to us.

[albrecht]

Yorkie, you know I love you, but please stop defending illegals. It is my country that is being destroyed not yours. You don't live here, pay taxes here or are daily affected by the diminishing standard of living here as more and more illiterate freeloaders are placed on the public dole. Imagine a never ending army of Falkies. If you believe this strongly that there should be no borders and that we owe anyone on the planet a living, then please put your money where your mouth is and allow refugees into your own home. It seems to me that those defending illegal immigration are happy to do so unless it involves really backing up their beliefs by taking some of these very people they are defending. Take 2 or 3 people in indefinably and then get back to us.

His country is also being destroyed, or at least severely damaged and "changed," along with many of the countries in Europe. He just doesn't want to acknowledge the fact that Enoch was right.

[ItsOver]

... Imagine a never ending army of Falkies...

Ack! LOL.  Thanks, IB.  Post of the day. 



Sorry, John.

[Yorkshire pud]

Yorkie, you know I love you, but please stop defending illegals.

Where have I said I do that?

t is my country that is being destroyed not yours. You don't live here, pay taxes here or are daily affected by the diminishing standard of living here as more and more illiterate freeloaders are placed on the public dole. Imagine a never ending army of Falkies. If you believe this strongly that there should be no borders and that we owe anyone on the planet a living, then please put your money where your mouth is and allow refugees into your own home. It seems to me that those defending illegal immigration are happy to do so unless it involves really backing up their beliefs by taking some of these very people they are defending. Take 2 or 3 people in indefinably and then get back to us.

But Trump isn't the answer. He's attempting to persuade otherwise rational people (and seemingly succeeding) in believing complex issues easy to resolve. Only he only tells a quarter of the story; if he gets in, it won't be only the Senda's who will be looking over their shoulder. But hey. C'est la vie.

[pyewacket]

Yorkie, you know I love you, but please stop defending illegals. It is my country that is being destroyed not yours. You don't live here, pay taxes here or are daily affected by the diminishing standard of living here as more and more illiterate freeloaders are placed on the public dole. Imagine a never ending army of Falkies. If you believe this strongly that there should be no borders and that we owe anyone on the planet a living, then please put your money where your mouth is and allow refugees into your own home. It seems to me that those defending illegal immigration are happy to do so unless it involves really backing up their beliefs by taking some of these very people they are defending. Take 2 or 3 people in indefinably and then get back to us.

+1000- great post IB.

I had an ultra progressive, Obama supporter, friend who always complained about how unfair everything was for the poor illegals and minorities. You couldn't discuss anything with her because she knew nothing about the facts and only spewed political rhetoric and talking points from the DNC. She was having outdoor lighting installed at her posh residence and lamented about how poorly paid the ethnic worker was. I suggested that she simply pay him more if she felt that way. I went on to tell her that we have done that in the past when we hired local workers who were struggling and were happy to help them. She then sputtered and back peddled saying, "I'm sure he gets paid enough." So you see, this fine progressive lady only cares when others will be forced to pay more. She did a 180 degree turn if it was coming out of her own pocket. Progressives rarely like to put their money where their mouths are.

[Billy Joe Mulgreavey]

Yorkie, you know I love you, but please stop defending illegals. It is my country that is being destroyed not yours. You don't live here, pay taxes here or are daily affected by the diminishing standard of living here as more and more illiterate freeloaders are placed on the public dole. Imagine a never ending army of Falkies. If you believe this strongly that there should be no borders and that we owe anyone on the planet a living, then please put your money where your mouth is and allow refugees into your own home. It seems to me that those defending illegal immigration are happy to do so unless it involves really backing up their beliefs by taking some of these very people they are defending. Take 2 or 3 people in indefinably and then get back to us.

Hello IB, my fellow American!  While I understand your concern of a diminishing standard of living and the destruction of our country, I feel that your concern maybe just a bit misplaced as it pertains to "illegals."  When my ancestor came here a few generations ago, they were given large parcels of land in Wisconsin and Minnesota I believe.  That is how my family started this new adventure in America..with a handout.  I would surmise it was the same for many families.  A far as the "legality" of their immigration?  I believe the only exclusionary laws pertained to Chinese peoples.    And while I agree that our infrastructure is damaged, and that more immigrants will put more pressure on it, I wish we as fellow Americans could come to a consensus as to the actual problem of our diminished standard of living. Why are we so worried about people coming across our borders in order to procure a paycheck, when the wealthiest among us are free to cross borders with ease to gain tax advantages or to outright hide their wealth?  Failed leadership at the federal, state and even local levels seem to now be designed to protect the wealth of a few.  And yeah, it appears to be the trend nowadays to highlight those crimes perpetrated by immigrants.  Right here in the small community in which my family lives, a young man was recently found guilty of murdering four people, including a two year old girl.  He did this shortly after he had served five years for attempted murder.  He had emptied a gun on his ex-boss, a guy who out of the kindness of his heart, gave the young man a job and  chance to reenter society after he had served some time for drug-related crimes.  This young man was a garden variety red white and blue scumbag.  I suppose his lineage could be traced back to immigrant relatives somewhere back in history.   The point is, it doesn't matter where you are from or where you are going, there are good people and there are bad.  I cannot fault a family for trying to improve their lives.  Isn't that what America is supposed to be?  Doesn't most of Europe have open borders?  Where is their imminent destruction?     

[RealCool Daddio]

Hello IB, my fellow American!  While I understand your concern of a diminishing standard of living and the destruction of our country, I feel that your concern maybe just a bit misplaced as it pertains to "illegals."  When my ancestor came here a few generations ago, they were given large parcels of land in Wisconsin and Minnesota I believe.  That is how my family started this new adventure in America..with a handout.  I would surmise it was the same for many families.  A far as the "legality" of their immigration?  I believe the only exclusionary laws pertained to Chinese peoples.    And while I agree that our infrastructure is damaged, and that more immigrants will put more pressure on it, I wish we as fellow Americans could come to a consensus as to the actual problem of our diminished standard of living. Why are we so worried about people coming across our borders in order to procure a paycheck, when the wealthiest among us are free to cross borders with ease to gain tax advantages or to outright hide their wealth?  And yeah, it appears to be the trend nowadays to highlight those crimes perpetrated by immigrants.  Right here in the small community in which my family lives, a young man was recently found guilty of murdering four people, including a two year old girl.  He did this shortly after he had served five years for attempted murder.  He had emptied a gun on his ex-boss, a guy who out of the kindness of his heart, gave the young man a job and  chance to reenter society after he had served some time for drug-related crimes.  This young man was a garden variety red white and blue scumbag.  I suppose his lineage could be traced back to immigrant relatives somewhere back in history.   The point is, it doesn't matter where you are from or where you are going, there are good people and there are bad.  I cannot fault a family for trying to improve their lives.  Isn't that what America is supposed to be?  Doesn't most of Europe have open borders?  Where is their imminent destruction?     

[FightTheFuture]

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[GravitySucks]

Hello IB, my fellow American!  While I understand your concern of a diminishing standard of living and the destruction of our country, I feel that your concern maybe just a bit misplaced as it pertains to "illegals."  When my ancestor came here a few generations ago, they were given large parcels of land in Wisconsin and Minnesota I believe.  That is how my family started this new adventure in America..with a handout.  I would surmise it was the same for many families.  A far as the "legality" of their immigration?  I believe the only exclusionary laws pertained to Chinese peoples.    And while I agree that our infrastructure is damaged, and that more immigrants will put more pressure on it, I wish we as fellow Americans could come to a consensus as to the actual problem of our diminished standard of living. Why are we so worried about people coming across our borders in order to procure a paycheck, when the wealthiest among us are free to cross borders with ease to gain tax advantages or to outright hide their wealth?  Failed leadership at the federal, state and even local levels seem to now be designed to protect the wealth of a few.  And yeah, it appears to be the trend nowadays to highlight those crimes perpetrated by immigrants.  Right here in the small community in which my family lives, a young man was recently found guilty of murdering four people, including a two year old girl.  He did this shortly after he had served five years for attempted murder.  He had emptied a gun on his ex-boss, a guy who out of the kindness of his heart, gave the young man a job and  chance to reenter society after he had served some time for drug-related crimes.  This young man was a garden variety red white and blue scumbag.  I suppose his lineage could be traced back to immigrant relatives somewhere back in history.   The point is, it doesn't matter where you are from or where you are going, there are good people and there are bad.  I cannot fault a family for trying to improve their lives.  Isn't that what America is supposed to be?  Doesn't most of Europe have open borders?  Where is their imminent destruction?     

You are so fucking clueless, I don't even know where to start.

Go check any other country's immigration policy. I checked into moving to Roatan in 2007. I would have had to prove that I had an income source guaranteeing me $37.000 per year before I would be granted a visa.

We have a legal immigration process. Wading across the Rio Grande or being smuggled across the border is not a part of the legal process.

If you come into this country without going through customs and immigration, you are here illegally.

[aldousburbank]

What do you call a person who sneaks into Mexico and flies the U.S. flag in protest?
An inmate.

[albrecht]

Hello IB, my fellow American!  While I understand your concern of a diminishing standard of living and the destruction of our country, I feel that your concern maybe just a bit misplaced as it pertains to "illegals."  When my ancestor came here a few generations ago, they were given large parcels of land in Wisconsin and Minnesota I believe.  That is how my family started this new adventure in America..with a handout.  I would surmise it was the same for many families.  A far as the "legality" of their immigration?  I believe the only exclusionary laws pertained to Chinese peoples.    And while I agree that our infrastructure is damaged, and that more immigrants will put more pressure on it, I wish we as fellow Americans could come to a consensus as to the actual problem of our diminished standard of living. Why are we so worried about people coming across our borders in order to procure a paycheck, when the wealthiest among us are free to cross borders with ease to gain tax advantages or to outright hide their wealth?  Failed leadership at the federal, state and even local levels seem to now be designed to protect the wealth of a few.  And yeah, it appears to be the trend nowadays to highlight those crimes perpetrated by immigrants.  Right here in the small community in which my family lives, a young man was recently found guilty of murdering four people, including a two year old girl.  He did this shortly after he had served five years for attempted murder.  He had emptied a gun on his ex-boss, a guy who out of the kindness of his heart, gave the young man a job and  chance to reenter society after he had served some time for drug-related crimes.  This young man was a garden variety red white and blue scumbag.  I suppose his lineage could be traced back to immigrant relatives somewhere back in history.   The point is, it doesn't matter where you are from or where you are going, there are good people and there are bad.  I cannot fault a family for trying to improve their lives.  Isn't that what America is supposed to be?  Doesn't most of Europe have open borders?  Where is their imminent destruction?     

My relatives too also came over and settled in the upper midwest. They had to pay for their trip, had to have paperwork, go through official US immigration check points, move to a pretty remote location and improve the land, learn the language (eventually,) pass a health screening. etc. They also never received free luxury temporary housing, EBTs cards, free healthcare, a free lawyer assigned to them, and free meals in school for their children and they also were not trying to claim the land back for Norwegians (which, I guess, they could've tried since the Vikings got here before Columbus.) They also didn't riot, block streets, attack police, and wave the flag of their former country while throwing bottles at people because they disagree with their politics. They were too busy farming to have the extra time to travel to protest a politician even if they wished to do so.

I thought these illegals and immigrants are so "hard working," "doing jobs Americans won't do"- than how come they have all this time to always be protesting, blocking roads, and trying to start riots?

Nobody, well most people, is saying zero immigration permanently- only that there should be an orderly, legal process to ensure the safety of the country (and countries.) And I would say to prevent huge demographic shifts so that new immigrants assimilate and not ghettoize.

[Billy Joe Mulgreavey]

You are so fucking clueless, I don't even know where to start.

Go check any other country's immigration policy. I checked into moving to Roatan in 2007. I would have had to prove that I had an income source guaranteeing me $37.000 per year before I would be granted a visa.

We have a legal immigration process. Wading across the Rio Grande or being smuggled across the border is not a part of the legal process.

If you come into this country without going through customs and immigration, you are here illegally.

Uh, I think I am "clued in" enough not to buy into the massive smokescreen that illegal immigration is made out to be.  Christ almighty, are you really going to worry about some Mexican fella trying to make an honest buck while some politician keeps mortgaging your children's future for the sake of his lobbyists?  Who is hiring these people without the proper vetting procedures?  Could it be the same rich asshole who did the lobbying in the first place?  Some guy coming across the Rio G and securing a meager paying gig so he can take care of his family is not your enemy..I assure you.   

[Billy Joe Mulgreavey]

My relatives too also came over and settled in the upper midwest. They had to pay for their trip, had to have paperwork, go through official US immigration check points, move to a pretty remote location and improve the land, learn the language (eventually,) pass a health screening. etc. They also never received free luxury temporary housing, EBTs cards, free healthcare, a free lawyer assigned to them, and free meals in school for their children and they also were not trying to claim the land back for Norwegians (which, I guess, they could've tried since the Vikings got here before Columbus.) They also didn't riot, block streets, attack police, and wave the flag of their former country while throwing bottles at people because they disagree with their politics. They were too busy farming to have the extra time to travel to protest a politician even if they wished to do so.

I thought these illegals and immigrants are so "hard working," "doing jobs Americans won't do"- than how come they have all this time to always be protesting, blocking roads, and trying to start riots?

Nobody, well most people, is saying zero immigration permanently- only that there should be an orderly, legal process to ensure the safety of the country (and countries.) And I would say to prevent huge demographic shifts so that new immigrants assimilate and not ghettoize.

Always protesting, blocking roads, etc?  how much does that gig pay? 

[GravitySucks]

Uh, I think I am "clued in" enough not to buy into the massive smokescreen that illegal immigration is made out to be.  Christ almighty, are you really going to worry about some Mexican fella trying to make an honest buck while some politician keeps mortgaging your children's future for the sake of his lobbyists?  Who is hiring these people without the proper vetting procedures?  Could it be the same rich asshole who did the lobbying in the first place?  Some guy coming across the Rio G and securing a meager paying gig so he can take care of his family is not your enemy..I assure you.

You obviously did not read the BellGab TOS agreement. If you join BellGab to post in the Falkie thread, then you are restricted from posting in the other threads. Go back to giving Falkie dietary advice.

[ItsOver]

+1000- great post IB.

... Progressives rarely like to put their money where their mouths are.

"The trouble with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money." 

That should get YP into a posting frenzy. 

[VtaGeezer]

Where have I said I do that?
But Trump isn't the answer. He's attempting to persuade otherwise rational people (and seemingly succeeding) in believing complex issues easy to resolve. Only he only tells a quarter of the story; if he gets in, it won't be only the Senda's who will be looking over their shoulder. But hey. C'est la vie.

Come in off the ledge. Six months ago, I felt much the same way about Trump.  I said things like "Melania will design a lovely armband for his followers."  But then I as I listened to what he actually said in his not-so-eloquent native NYC idiom vs. the interpretation and distorting edits that the establishment media presented; the two were vastly different. 

Trump is not likely to be elected.  He's too outspoken.  Too reviled by the media elite schooled in semantics.  But he's also a political Occam's Razor.  No PC crap.  He's the first Republican candidate in memory, except for Perot 24 years ago, who dares speak truth about the collapse of a robust American middle class and its causes.  And many conservatives have been shaken from their radio-induced zombie state that's given corporations and Wall St free rein to gang bang the middle class for almost 30 years. But he goes further; rightfully identifying entrenched and PC incompetence in govt,  the structural corruption we've been conditioned to accept as our patriotic heritage set down by the Founders ("Hey...Abe Lincoln was elected this way").  We aren't likely to have a President Trump, but he has unmasked  the political establishment in a manner all understand, and things won't be the same regardless of who wins in November.

[Billy Joe Mulgreavey]

You obviously did not read the BellGab TOS agreement. If you join BellGab to post in the Falkie thread, then you are restricted from posting in the other threads. Go back to giving Falkie dietary advice.

Nah, think I'll post where I like but thanks for the advice.  How's your diet going by the way? 

[Billy Joe Mulgreavey]

Come in off the ledge. Six months ago, I felt much the same way about Trump.  I said things like "Melania will design a lovely armband for his followers."  But then I as I listened to what he actually said in his not-so-eloquent native NYC idiom vs. the interpretation and distorting edits that the establishment media presented; the two were vastly different. 

Trump is not likely to be elected.  He's too outspoken.  Too reviled by the media elite schooled in semantics.  But he's also a political Occam's Razor.  No PC crap.  He's the first Republican candidate in memory, except for Perot 24 years ago, who dares speak truth about the collapse of a robust American middle class and its causes.  And many conservatives have been shaken from their radio-induced zombie state that's given corporations and Wall St free rein to gang bang the middle class for almost 30 years. But he goes further; rightfully identifying entrenched and PC incompetence in govt,  the structural corruption we've been conditioned to accept as our patriotic heritage set down by the Founders ("Hey...Abe Lincoln was elected this way").  We aren't likely to have a President Trump, but he has unmasked  the political establishment in a manner all understand, and things won't be the same regardless of who wins in November.

Huh, and I thought it was the nefarious-looking Mexicans that are putting a new roof on my neighbor's house that were causing all the trouble.

[ItsOver]

What do you call a person who sneaks into Mexico and flies the U.S. flag in protest?
An inmate.

  Hey, AB!  Glad to see you posting again, after we've all endured the trials and tribulations with the unfortunate Art situation.  Your wit is greatly appreciated.

[VtaGeezer]

Huh, and I thought it was the nefarious-looking Mexicans that are putting a new roof on my neighbor's house that were causing all the trouble.

Nope.  It's the ones with big neck tatts and gold chains, and with no visible means of support who you've got to worry about.

[Billy Joe Mulgreavey]

Nope.  It's the ones with big neck tatts and gold chains, and with no visible means of support who you've got to worry about.

And what is the ratio between the gold chain wearing, neck tat dudes to the hard working immigrants pounding nails across the street?  Is that ratio similar or completely different than the ratio between Americans who earn their livings as apposed to those who bang with or without gold chains and/or tats?  Now to keep it fair, and to add perspective, all politicians count as 125 gold chain wearing, neck tat guys, and their handlers are worth 250.