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Started by The General, February 10, 2011, 11:33:34 PM

Quote from: VtaGeezer on April 21, 2016, 11:13:07 AM
It's both irritating and amusing that Cruz constantly portrays himself as close challenger while trailing Trump's total by 30%; soon to be 50+%.

Trump better hope he goes to Cleveland with at least 1237 delegates or he`ll quickly learn how much of a challenger Cruz really is.

VtaGeezer

Quote from: FightTheFuture on April 21, 2016, 12:04:04 PM
Trump better hope he goes to Cleveland with at least 1237 delegates or he`ll quickly learn how much of a challenger Cruz really is.
Dream on.  If Trump is stopped, your boy will be crushed instantly by the party insiders.  His expiration date coincides with the 2nd ballot, unless he can sneak a big herd of cattle in; his wins show that he has the Black Angus vote sown up...he's the Hayshaker's Messiah.

Quote from: VtaGeezer on April 21, 2016, 12:23:38 PM
Dream on.  If Trump is stopped, your boy will be crushed instantly by the party insiders.  His expiration date coincides with the 2nd ballot, unless he can sneak a big herd of cattle in; his wins show that he has the Black Angus vote sown up...he's the Hayshaker's Messiah.

Is that right? And whom will "the establishment" anoint? Kasich? Bush? Rubio? RYAN?? Please. What world are you living in? Cruz has, already, convinced a rather significant amount of delegates to pledge their support for HIM, if there is a second, third or fourth ballot. And many, many more will follow, despite the most conniving efforts of Trump`s greaseball, pinky-ringed, yes-men. Most of those delegates currently are legally obligated to vote for Drumpf on the first ballot. But the next round...bye bye Drumpf.


VtaGeezer

Quote from: FightTheFuture on April 21, 2016, 09:48:49 PM
Behold; Drumpf the pig. Defender of rapists:

http://www.buzzfeed.com/andrewkaczynski/donald-trump-blamed-the-victim-in-mike-tysons-rape-case?utm_term=.khyjAedgy#.moq2635D9
Yeah...a lot of attitudes were different 24 years ago.  Isn't that about when a certain Christian defender of women's dignity was managing a strip club?

And if you'd do some homework, you'd see Cruz has nowhere near enough delegates to win on a 2nd even if every one of his bound delegates sticks with him, which they won't.  Most of his assigned delegates are only committed on the 1st ballot and are no more loyal to him than Trump.  They'll be peeled off like leaves on an artichoke. He's making all his noise over less than 150 delegates who've promised to support him on a 2nd ballot.  Like promises matter to the party hacks who are delegates to the national convention. I'm guessing that if Trump is blocked, the regulars will nominate Kasich or Ryan.  But its all rhetorical since Clinton will win in a huge landslide regardless because the GOP has exposed that it's lost its mind.

Quote from: VtaGeezer on April 21, 2016, 10:06:03 PM
Yeah...a lot of attitudes were different 24 years ago.  Isn't that about when a certain Christian defender of women's dignity was managing a strip club?

And if you'd do some homework, you'd see Cruz has nowhere near enough delegates to win on a 2nd even if every one of his bound delegates sticks with him, which they won't.  Most of his assigned delegates are only committed on the 1st ballot and are no more loyal to him than Trump.  They'll be peeled off like leaves on an artichoke. He's making all his noise over less than 150 delegates who've promised to support him on a 2nd ballot.  Like promises matter to the party hacks who are delegates to the national convention. I'm guessing that if Trump is blocked, the regulars will nominate Kasich or Ryan.  But its all rhetorical since Clinton will win in a huge landslide regardless because the GOP has exposed that it's lost its mind.

Wow. Didn`t think you`d go down that rabbit hole, but now that you have, let me assure you, indeed, I was one incredibly bad dude back in the day. However, you`ll be happy to learn that I repented; confessed my sins and accepted Jesus Christ as my Savior. When asked, Drumpf,("a great Christian")said, he has "never done anything that needs forgiveness." The same guy that sleeps around on all his wives and brags about it. The guy that stalks Megyn Kelly, and judges all women based solely on their looks. And on and on, I could do this all  night. That`s the pig you feel so compelled to defend. Knock yourself out.


And if you would do just a modicum of research, you`d understand that Cruz has been at this LONG before the election process started. Cruz has been working the state conventions and potential delegates, putting the ground game in place and building the infrastructure required to do exactly what he is doing. Trump was too freaking obtuse to comprehend nomination process. Cruz, on the other hand, really does have a "good brain."

The fact is, most of Drumpf`s delegates are going to abandon him on the second ballot and vote for Cruz. Yes, MOST. Cruz will slide into Cleveland several hundred short. He`ll more than make that up if there is a second ballot. But it`s not just me saying that. Take it from the establishment guys:

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/lindsey-graham-trump-trouble-one/2016/04/21/id/725117/

Graham said Thursday he doesn't know yet if he'll be going to the convention, but if he gets to be a delegate from his state, "if Donald Trump doesn't win on the first ballot, most of the South Carolina delegates are going to vote for Ted Cruz. Stop whining about it. That's just the way the rules are."


VtaGeezer

Quote from: FightTheFuture on April 22, 2016, 12:12:38 AM
Wow. Didn`t think you`d go down that rabbit hole, but now that you have, let me assure you, indeed, I was one incredibly bad dude back in the day. However, you`ll be happy to learn that I repented; confessed my sins and accepted Jesus Christ as my Savior. When asked, Drumpf,("a great Christian")said, he has "never done anything that needs forgiveness." The same guy that sleeps around on all his wives and brags about it. The guy that stalks Megyn Kelly, and judges all women based solely on their looks. And on and on, I could do this all  night. That`s the pig you feel so compelled to defend. Knock yourself out.


And if you would do just a modicum of research, you`d understand that Cruz has been at this LONG before the election process started. Cruz has been working the state conventions and potential delegates, putting the ground game in place and building the infrastructure required to do exactly what he is doing. Trump was too freaking obtuse to comprehend nomination process. Cruz, on the other hand, really does have a "good brain."

The fact is, most of Drumpf`s delegates are going to abandon him on the second ballot and vote for Cruz. Yes, MOST. Cruz will slide into Cleveland several hundred short. He`ll more than make that up if there is a second ballot. But it`s not just me saying that. Take it from the establishment guys:

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/lindsey-graham-trump-trouble-one/2016/04/21/id/725117/

Graham said Thursday he doesn't know yet if he'll be going to the convention, but if he gets to be a delegate from his state, "if Donald Trump doesn't win on the first ballot, most of the South Carolina delegates are going to vote for Ted Cruz. Stop whining about it. That's just the way the rules are."


Cleveland won't be a state or county convention full of neighborhood activists.  It's the Big Time, and almost all the delegates will be hard core Party loyalists with elected and appointed state, county and Party positions; people who largely make their living off politics.  After the first ballot they'll vote their interests; meaning for someone who won't be a millstone around the Party's neck and cost them their job or access.  They may not like Trump, but they know know Cruz's sanctimonious preacher-man act has and will fall flat outside Evangeland, and the public revulsion with Republican hypocrisy is likely to reach deeply down-ballot...into their rice bowls.  Graham and many other in Congress are talking about staying away because they want to shield their personal electability from the coming tsunami of public anger toward the GOP for ignoring their will.  Its going to be must-see-TV.  I only defend Trump against the kind of personal crap and distortions being heaped on him.  He's no saint, but we're not electing a President, not a chaplain.  The establishment is terrified because he knows exactly how they've fucked the country over for their own interests.  Its disgustingly hypocritical that Trump is castigated for acting like 90% of american men in their 30s when young, while that creep from TX gets away with going the USSC to keep some poor SOB who stole a calculator from Walmart in prison for 12 years because of a prosecutor's error.  Google Dretke  v. Haley and take that log out of your eye.  Some Christian this asshole Cruz is, eh?  Nice that you can be a total dick and be saved.

If you'd spend minute reading Cruz's published policy points and his not-even-one-term-career as an utterly failed legislator, you'd see a ridiculously superficial Tea Party style pap; abolish the IRS and Dept of Ed., audit the Fed, ending Federal regulation...all talk radio-based crap aimed at naive people who just want a "Godly" President...never mind that he's the Pharisee in Luke 18:9, one of those who thinks his salvation is won by praying well while pushing others down, and a lawyer whose career displays the humanity of Cain.

And I do understand Cruz has been at it...on our nickel...since he got to the Senate in 2012 riding the Tea party wave.  And he's still been f'ing crushed.  Fear of the "greater evil" Trump is the ONLY thing that's kept Cruz near competitive.  Being an election rules manipulator is how he got his political start, on the Bush legal team for the FL recount, lubing the way for his appointment as solicitor general of TX, and how he gamed an overcrowded 2012 GOP Senate primary to beat the favorite in an mid-summer GOP run-off (helped by millions in out-of-state rightwing money). 

VtaGeezer,  I understand where you are coming from but I think you are blinded by your hatred of Cruz.  You think most people see Cruz as you do and maybe that will be true when the general election comes around.  However, Cruz has worked very hard to get his slate of delegates in many states to go to the convention.  When they get there, they will vote for Trump on the first ballot if required to do so but they will vote for Cruz on the second ballot.   These delegates are his supporters.

VtaGeezer

Quote from: 21st Century Man on April 22, 2016, 10:36:40 AM
VtaGeezer,  I understand where you are coming from but I think you are blinded by your hatred of Cruz.  You think most people see Cruz as you do and maybe that will be true when the general election comes around.  However, Cruz has worked very hard to get his slate of delegates in many states to go to the convention.  When they get there, they will vote for Trump on the first ballot if required to do so but they will vote for Cruz on the second ballot.   These delegates are his supporters.
Nope, most are not Cruz supporters. They're the same Party workers and full-time pols who pay $100 for tri-tip dinners for local hacks and political seminars and, regardless what they may say to campaigns or media, will vote the Party's and their political career interest if it goes to a 2nd ballot.  Sure, a few support Cruz, but as I said to FTF, his post-election snagging of "informally bound" delegates is very limited; under 150 per the WashPost.

I don't "hate" Cruz, I'm simply offended by his phoniness and his far right views, which are the same crank ideas that 50 years ago were painted on the sides of old trailers installed along deserted highways by John Birchers.  Not to mention his naivete and lack of accomplishment in anything but advancing Rafael Cruz.

Quote from: VtaGeezer on April 22, 2016, 02:40:38 PM
Nope, most are not Cruz supporters. They're the same Party workers and full-time pols who pay $100 for tri-tip dinners for local hacks and political seminars and, regardless what they may say to campaigns or media, will vote the Party's and their political career interest if it goes to a 2nd ballot.  Sure, a few support Cruz, but as I said to FTF, his post-election snagging of "informally bound" delegates is very limited; under 150 per the WashPost.

I don't "hate" Cruz, I'm simply offended by his phoniness and his far right views, which are the same crank ideas that 50 years ago were painted on the sides of old trailers installed along deserted highways by John Birchers.  Not to mention his naivete and lack of accomplishment in anything but advancing Rafael Cruz.

OK.  Just don't be surprised if it doesn't go your way.

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: 21st Century Man on April 22, 2016, 06:19:25 PM
OK.  Just don't be surprised if it doesn't go your way.

says the guy whose preferred candidate is almost 300 behind in the delegate count, soon to be more.  do you hear yourself?  talk about being blinded.


Quote from: MV on April 22, 2016, 07:57:41 PM
says the guy whose preferred candidate is almost 300 behind in the delegate count, soon to be more.  do you hear yourself?  talk about being blinded.

It doesn't matter how far he is behind if Trump doesn't take it on the first ballot.  Cruz has built a grass roots organization across the country and his slates of delegates are being selected in many states.  Sure, they will vote for Trump on the first ballot but they are free to do as they please on the second ballot.  Trump has built no such organization.  It is really that simple.

I know you and many others will be pissed if that happens but that is the way the game is played. Trump should have had decent advisors telling him this and spent some money building grass roots organizations but he hasn't.  Maybe he will in these final weeks in the states that are left.  We'll see.   

To Everyone But Particularly the Trump Supporters.  Please read this so you have a better idea what could happen.  I am not comparing Lincoln to Cruz just the circumstances.  I am also not trying to piss anyone off. The same rules exist as they did then.  By all means, I urge you to read the whole article that this is taken from. 


Holding their breath


After the first ballot, Seward, as expected, led with 173 votes. Lincoln was next with 102. Cameron received 50; Chase got 49; Bates 48; and the rest received a handful each.

A second ballot was immediately called for, and the Lincoln camp knew that their man would gain strength. Vermont was the first state to make a major shift--all 10 votes went to Lincoln, a significant blow to Seward. As the roll call continued, Lincoln gained a few votes here and a few there, while Seward’s tally remained largely unchanged.

When Pennsylvania’s turn came, the Lincoln men held their breath. Whereas only four votes from Pennsylvania went to Lincoln on the first ballot, a whopping 48 went to him on the second. Seward supporters sank in their seats. Lincoln clearly had the momentum. The final tally on the second ballot was 184 for Seward and 181 for Lincoln.


A Hush Fell


Ballot three began. Lincoln continued to pick up votes--4 more from Kentucky, 15 from Ohio--while Seward lost votes. When the pencils stopped scratching, Lincoln had 231 and a half votes--one and a half short of those needed for the nomination.

A hush fell, and all eyes turned toward D. K. Cartter of Ohio, who stuttered out: “I-I arise, Mr. Chairman, to a-announce the ch-change of four votes, from Mr. Chase to Abraham Lincoln!” For a moment, the audience was silent--then it erupted. The sound was so deafening that the only way people could tell that cannons outside the Wigwam were being fired was by watching the smoke drift from the barrels.

More at

http://www.greatamericanhistory.net/nomination.htm

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: 21st Century Man on April 23, 2016, 12:43:40 AM
It doesn't matter how far he is behind if Trump doesn't take it on the first ballot.  Cruz has built a grass roots organization across the country and his slates of delegates are being selected in many states.  Sure, they will vote for Trump on the first ballot but they are free to do as they please on the second ballot.  Trump has built no such organization.  It is really that simple.

i'm clear on how the delegate voting process works, but thanks for the effort, champ.

back on track:  i question the honesty and integrity of rules that could allow the selection of a nominee who received significantly fewer popular votes and significantly fewer pledged delegates.  full stop.  i also question the integrity and self restraint of a candidate who, in the year 2016, would proudly seek to be nominated in such a manner.  that's ted cruz.  perhaps you're ok with political parties modeling their nomination processes after some 19th century abomination, but i'm not.

now that cruz knows he has no first ballot path to the nomination, he should yield to a general sense of fair play, modernity and unity by stepping aside (a move cruz recommended to kasich a month ago for the same reason). 

the race is effectively 10 months old at this point.  clearly, trump has outmaneuvered cruz.  it's just that simple.  if the public will is ultimately honored by the republican party, cruz is done.

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I know you and many others will be pissed if that happens but that is the way the game is played.

man.  again:  i am not unclear on "the way the game is played."  no help needed there.  and you write that as if it legitimizes something about the potential selection of a nominee by a relatively minuscule cluster of party insiders.  rephrased, your words could read, "that's the way they do it, so that's the way it should be done."  well then.  guess we're finished here.  can't argue with that rationale.  /sarcasm

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Trump should have had decent advisors telling him this and spent some money building grass roots organizations but he hasn't.  Maybe he will in these final weeks in the states that are left.  We'll see.

why are the cruz campain or its supporters in a position to lecture on the mechanics of running a proper campaign?  i shouldn't have to inform you of this, but:  your candidate trails trump by almost 300 delegates and exactly 2,332,967 votes. 

cruz keeps prattling on about the 60% popular vote "against" trump.  surely cruz realizes he's been even more roundly rejected, with 71% of the popular vote having been cast aginst him.  are we allowed to mention that?  hopefully so.

taking all of this into account, i'm not sure why you or anyone else think i should get moist when the ted cruz "ground game" is mentioned.  the "ground" is where the people are.  cruz now seeks to bypass the people.  ted's getting absolutely face fucked on what you refer to as "the ground".

Juan

So basically Seward and Lincoln and all are all like dead and stuff and cisnormative except for Lincoln and like really white.

NowhereInTime

Trump about to speak in my hometown of Waterbury, CT. He will easily win this state; I appreciate that he doesn't take the state for granted, but he will crush Cruz; Kasich likely to do better.

NowhereInTime

Quote from: MV on April 23, 2016, 03:04:44 AM
i'm clear on how the delegate voting process works, but thanks for the effort, champ.

back on track:  i question the honesty and integrity of rules that could allow the selection of a nominee who received significantly fewer popular votes and significantly fewer pledged delegates.  full stop.  i also question the integrity and self restraint of a candidate who, in the year 2016, would proudly seek to be nominated in such a manner.  that's ted cruz.  perhaps you're ok with political parties modeling their nomination processes after some 19th century abomination, but i'm not.

now that cruz knows he has no first ballot path to the nomination, he should yield to a general sense of fair play, modernity and unity by stepping aside (a move cruz recommended to kasich a month ago for the same reason). 

the race is effectively 10 months old at this point.  clearly, trump has outmaneuvered cruz.  it's just that simple.  if the public will is ultimately honored by the republican party, cruz is done.

man.  again:  i am not unclear on "the way the game is played."  no help needed there.  and you write that as if it legitimizes something about the potential selection of a nominee by a relatively minuscule cluster of party insiders.  rephrased, your words could read, "that's the way they do it, so that's the way it should be done."  well then.  guess we're finished here.  can't argue with that rationale.  /sarcasm

why are the cruz campain or its supporters in a position to lecture on the mechanics of running a proper campaign?  i shouldn't have to inform you of this, but:  your candidate trails trump by almost 300 delegates and exactly 2,332,967 votes. 

cruz keeps prattling on about the 60% popular vote "against" trump.  surely cruz realizes he's been even more roundly rejected, with 71% of the popular vote having been cast aginst him.  are we allowed to mention that?  hopefully so.

taking all of this into account, i'm not sure why you or anyone else think i should get moist when the ted cruz "ground game" is mentioned.  the "ground" is where the people are.  cruz now seeks to bypass the people.  ted's getting absolutely face fucked on what you refer to as "the ground".

This.

Quote from: VtaGeezer on April 22, 2016, 10:28:24 AM
Cleveland won't be a state or county convention full of neighborhood activists.  It's the Big Time, and almost all the delegates will be hard core Party loyalists with elected and appointed state, county and Party positions; people who largely make their living off politics.  After the first ballot they'll vote their interests; meaning for someone who won't be a millstone around the Party's neck and cost them their job or access.  They may not like Trump, but they know know Cruz's sanctimonious preacher-man act has and will fall flat outside Evangeland, and the public revulsion with Republican hypocrisy is likely to reach deeply down-ballot...into their rice bowls.  Graham and many other in Congress are talking about staying away because they want to shield their personal electability from the coming tsunami of public anger toward the GOP for ignoring their will.  Its going to be must-see-TV.  I only defend Trump against the kind of personal crap and distortions being heaped on him.  He's no saint, but we're not electing a President, not a chaplain.  The establishment is terrified because he knows exactly how they've fucked the country over for their own interests.  Its disgustingly hypocritical that Trump is castigated for acting like 90% of american men in their 30s when young, while that creep from TX gets away with going the USSC to keep some poor SOB who stole a calculator from Walmart in prison for 12 years because of a prosecutor's error.  Google Dretke  v. Haley and take that log out of your eye.  Some Christian this asshole Cruz is, eh?  Nice that you can be a total dick and be saved.

If you'd spend minute reading Cruz's published policy points and his not-even-one-term-career as an utterly failed legislator, you'd see a ridiculously superficial Tea Party style pap; abolish the IRS and Dept of Ed., audit the Fed, ending Federal regulation...all talk radio-based crap aimed at naive people who just want a "Godly" President...never mind that he's the Pharisee in Luke 18:9, one of those who thinks his salvation is won by praying well while pushing others down, and a lawyer whose career displays the humanity of Cain.

And I do understand Cruz has been at it...on our nickel...since he got to the Senate in 2012 riding the Tea party wave.  And he's still been f'ing crushed.  Fear of the "greater evil" Trump is the ONLY thing that's kept Cruz near competitive.  Being an election rules manipulator is how he got his political start, on the Bush legal team for the FL recount, lubing the way for his appointment as solicitor general of TX, and how he gamed an overcrowded 2012 GOP Senate primary to beat the favorite in an mid-summer GOP run-off (helped by millions in out-of-state rightwing money).

Two things jump out at me. First, you really should stop reading David Brooks. Really! And you you know what I`m talking about. Second, You have NO IDEA what you`re talking about with regards to the Haley case.  Haley was a scumbag habitual offender who qualified for the Texas statute for habitual offenders. He was sentenced to the appropriate 16 years. The USSC centered around a technicality that was uncovered by the defense. The man was a multiple felon and a menace to society and he belonged in prison. It was the sworn duty of Ted Cruz -- then Texas Solicitor General -- to represent his client, which happened to be the state of Texas and society at large. That makes him a "dick" and a bad Christian? Really? says who? YOU?!PLEASE.  You have this bizarre notion that he was free to act as judge and jury. Not sure where you get that...probably Brooks.


The whole delegate thing; again, you have NO clue what you`re talking about. The delegates are mostly grassroots supporters of Cruz and party insiders. Cruz was smart enough to make sure he had HIS people all over the state conventions and working the committed delegates (yep, it`s perfectly legal!). In fact, Cruz has spent hours on the phone every night with delegates all over the country. Has Trump? I`m guessing not. In fact, Cruz spent a half hour on the phone  turning one committed Trump delegate to his side (if there is a second ballot). THat`s the effort it takes.

Again, you have some...strange notion that "the establishhhhhhhhhment" is going to anoint their guy. It`s a fantasy. Like your sex scandal BS. It`s nonsense. The winner will be the candidate who garners 1237 delegate votes. Period. No backroom deals. It Trump wants to bellyache, that`s fine, too. I`d just love to see him get the bum`s rush out. I can tell you right now, the GOP will NOT put up with his BS. Their feeling is -- like it or not -- they were here long before him, and they`ll be here long after he`s gone. It`ll be good TV.


And he just LOVES the vets! We know this because he says so! He`s gonna take fantastic care of the vets. Just wait and see...right after we build the wall. Wait...was he playing a role when he said that? That`s what his campaign manager says. Trump just acts. I guess he`s just acting. He has a good brain though.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/04/22/trump-vets-chair-charity-money-not-my-problem.html

VtaGeezer

Quote from: 21st Century Man on April 23, 2016, 12:43:40 AM
Trump should have had decent advisors telling him this and spent some money building grass roots organizations but he hasn't.  Maybe he will in these final weeks in the states that are left.  We'll see.
Trump didn't decide to run until less than a year ago, had no in-place political network to build from, and is almost completely self-funded.  Cruz's Presidential campaign began on the day he was elected to the Senate in 2012 and backed by uberconservative superPACs. His team crafted a large and heavily funded grass-roots primary campaign over three years...and yet Trump entered the race at virtually the last minute and came within 3% of him in EvangeLand Iowa, then proceeded to mop the floor with him in every state with more people than hogs.

Cruz's only value to the GOP is as the last airworthy kamikaze that they can crash into the USS Trump. If Trump isn't stopped in the first ballot, they'll thank Cruz by sweeping his wreckage into the political dustbin.  If Trump is stopped in the first ballot, they'll thank Cruz by sweeping his wreckage into the political dustbin while nominating one of their anointed.

VtaGeezer

Quote from: FightTheFuture on April 23, 2016, 08:02:07 AM
And he just LOVES the vets! We know this because he says so! He`s gonna take fantastic care of the vets. Just wait and see...right after we build the wall. Wait...was he playing a role when he said that? That`s what his campaign manager says. Trump just acts. I guess he`s just acting. He has a good brain though.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/04/22/trump-vets-chair-charity-money-not-my-problem.html
You're grossly distorting what Manafort actually said.  But then so is Rafael.  It's his natural state...Lyin' Ted, soon to be Cryin' Ted.

VtaGeezer

Quote from: FightTheFuture on April 23, 2016, 07:14:09 AM
That makes him a "dick" and a bad Christian? Really? says who? YOU?!PLEASE.  You have this bizarre notion that he was free to act as judge and jury.
As SG of TX, he chose and approved which cases were appealed.  He chose to back locking up a habitual petty thief for 16 years over a cheap Walmart calculator.  And he lost in the US Supreme Ct., who sent it back to the TX court where the guy was released for time served.  Cruz is Inspector Jalvert personified.

If Cruz had been there when Jesus said "Let those without sin cast the first stone", he'd have pitched a fast one at her head.  Its rare to see such an extreme case of check list sola scriptura distortions of Christian teachings as this stone cold letter-of-the-law pharisee.  Except for tithing, of course; Cruz believes that part of Scripture is just a suggestion.  Not sure if he's a bad "Christian", but then most of today's "good" Christians would throw Jesus out in the street in a heartbeat.  It certainly does make him a first class dick. 

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: VtaGeezer on April 23, 2016, 10:09:32 AM
You're grossly distorting what Manafort actually said.  But then so is Rafael.  It's his natural state...Lyin' Ted, soon to be Cryin' Ted.

Lyin' Ted!

MV/Liberace!

Quote from: NowhereInTime on April 23, 2016, 06:12:23 AM
Trump about to speak in my hometown of Waterbury, CT. He will easily win this state; I appreciate that he doesn't take the state for granted, but he will crush Cruz; Kasich likely to do better.

I love CT. Been there many times.

VtaGeezer

Quote from: FightTheFuture on April 23, 2016, 07:14:09 AM
Two things jump out at me. First, you really should stop reading David Brooks.
I forgot to mention in my earlier response that I never read Brooks. He apparently takes his ideas from me.

Quote from: NowhereInTime on April 23, 2016, 06:12:23 AM
Trump about to speak in my hometown of Waterbury, CT. He will easily win this state; I appreciate that he doesn't take the state for granted, but he will crush Cruz; Kasich likely to do better.

Oh, no doubt about that.  Cruz has no chance whatsoever in the April primaries.  He will be crushed in the Northeast and Mid Atlantic.  It is what happens afterwards in May and June that will tell the tale though.

No right-minded candidate would step aside and let Trump take the nomination.  Trump can't be trusted to guide the country back towards the proper path.  Cruz will never win the first ballot but it is unlikely Trump will either.  I'm sorry but this Lyin' Ted crap needs to stop.  I was far more inclined to support Trump in the general election before he started that crap.  He is not uniting the party but dividing it.

Quote from: FightTheFuture on April 23, 2016, 07:14:09 AM
Two things jump out at me. First, you really should stop reading David Brooks. Really! And you you know what I`m talking about. Second, You have NO IDEA what you`re talking about with regards to the Haley case.  Haley was a scumbag habitual offender who qualified for the Texas statute for habitual offenders. He was sentenced to the appropriate 16 years. The USSC centered around a technicality that was uncovered by the defense. The man was a multiple felon and a menace to society and he belonged in prison. It was the sworn duty of Ted Cruz -- then Texas Solicitor General -- to represent his client, which happened to be the state of Texas and society at large. That makes him a "dick" and a bad Christian? Really? says who? YOU?!PLEASE.  You have this bizarre notion that he was free to act as judge and jury. Not sure where you get that...probably Brooks.


The whole delegate thing; again, you have NO clue what you`re talking about. The delegates are mostly grassroots supporters of Cruz and party insiders. Cruz was smart enough to make sure he had HIS people all over the state conventions and working the committed delegates (yep, it`s perfectly legal!). In fact, Cruz has spent hours on the phone every night with delegates all over the country. Has Trump? I`m guessing not. In fact, Cruz spent a half hour on the phone  turning one committed Trump delegate to his side (if there is a second ballot). THat`s the effort it takes.

Again, you have some...strange notion that "the establishhhhhhhhhment" is going to anoint their guy. It`s a fantasy. Like your sex scandal BS. It`s nonsense. The winner will be the candidate who garners 1237 delegate votes. Period. No backroom deals. It Trump wants to bellyache, that`s fine, too. I`d just love to see him get the bum`s rush out. I can tell you right now, the GOP will NOT put up with his BS. Their feeling is -- like it or not -- they were here long before him, and they`ll be here long after he`s gone. It`ll be good TV.


That is what I keep telling the folks here but they will not listen.  It is either their way or the highway. Trump Derangement Syndrome is what I call it.

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