President Donald J. Trump

[Dr. MD MD]

That speech was more AWESOME.  Marched right in to their new palace and shook them down in front of the Berlin wall.

You Europeeons needed a good OG bitch slap to wake you back up to reality. 

[K_Dubb]

You have officially sunk lower than crazed anti-obama poster nitpicking everything Obama did.

I didn't even think that was possible.....

How I shall ever recover your esteem will preoccupy me for the next several seconds.

[GravitySucks]

Well, if Trump isn't happy, he'll be satisfied that the rest of NATO might decide not to share intel with the US. They know now it goes straight to Putin anyway, due to the traitors in the WH.

Maybe you should share it with yourselves.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/05/25/manchester-bomber-repeatedly-reported-authorities-friends-community/

[Yorkshire pud]

That speech was more AWESOME.  Marched right in to their new palace and shook them down in front of the Berlin wall.

Awesome? Considering the UK has just had a bomb attack, a pledge to continue the joint and mutual trust in each member states of NATO would have been more fitting. Instead it has to be about him. Issues about member states NATO contributions is much better recieved in closed session. He is an idiot so won't even understand that, ever. He might have it sink in though if member states delay or even cancel plans to host US bases and hold back on sharing intel with the US.

[Yorkshire pud]

Fine. Take your ball and go home. Frankly, you risk losing more from that decision than we do. We're better off without your "help" anyway. 

Keep believing that. Look up Menwith Hill....

[Dr. MD MD]

Awesome? Considering the UK has just had a bomb attack, a pledge to continue the joint and mutual trust in each member states of NATO would have been more fitting. Instead it has to be about him. Issues about member states NATO contributions is much better recieved in closed session. He is an idiot so won't even understand that, ever. He might have it sink in though if member states delay or even cancel plans to host US bases and hold back on sharing intel with the US.

Apparently, Obama bitched about the same thing to Britain and Europe for his entire administration. He just did it behind closed doors and to little effect. 

[K_Dubb]

Awesome? Considering the UK has just had a bomb attack, a pledge to continue the joint and mutual trust in each member states of NATO would have been more fitting. Instead it has to be about him. Issues about member states NATO contributions is much better recieved in closed session. He is an idiot so won't even understand that, ever. He might have it sink in though if member states delay or even cancel plans to host US bases and hold back on sharing intel with the US.

Hey he led them in their moment of silence.

It's terribly gauche, but if it makes them take their own defense seriously it's for their own good.  I just finished a book on WWI; it was decades of underspending and slackness in Austria-Hungary that doomed that alliance.  A weak ally you are obliged to defend is a liability.

[Yorkshire pud]

Hey he led them in their moment of silence.

It's terribly gauche, but if it makes them take their own defense seriously it's for their own good.  I just finished a book on WWI; it was decades of underspending and slackness in Austria-Hungary that doomed that alliance.  A weak ally you are obliged to defend is a liability.

Bearing in mind he sucked the shit out of the arses of the Saudis last week, he clearly hasn't got it what it means to be a ruler. Not that Putin would allow him such delusions of grandeur. It does explain why he never mentioned article five (I wonder if he actually knows what it is?) and hardly mentioned Russia. The same Russia that is leaning heavily on former SU countries (Now NATO allies). We can be forgiven in assuming that if Russia invaded a NATO country, Trump would encourage and maybe aid Russia against a NATO ally. I wonder how that would play with US military personnel based in Europe?

[Dr. MD MD]

Keep believing that. Look up Menwith Hill....

No thanks. I'm trying to cut down. 

[Dr. MD MD]

Bearing in mind he sucked the shit out of the arses of the Saudis last week, he clearly hasn't got it what it means to be a ruler. Not that Putin would allow him such delusions of grandeur. It does explain why he never mentioned article five (I wonder if he actually knows what it is?) and hardly mentioned Russia. The same Russia that is leaning heavily on former SU countries (Now NATO allies). We can be forgiven in assuming that if Russia invaded a NATO country, Trump would encourage and maybe aid Russia against a NATO ally. I wonder how that would play with US military personnel based in Europe?

Islamic fundamentalists just blew up a bunch of your kids and you're still spinning on Russia. You clearly have no shame. You're a hysterical housewife. Take your fucking Valium!  :

[The King of Kings]

Awesome? Considering the UK has just had a bomb attack, a pledge to continue the joint and mutual trust in each member states of NATO would have been more fitting. Instead it has to be about him. Issues about member states NATO contributions is much better recieved in closed session. He is an idiot so won't even understand that, ever. He might have it sink in though if member states delay or even cancel plans to host US bases and hold back on sharing intel with the US.

Fuck the UK.

Your terrorism is your problem considering your undying loyalty to bring in more and more african and arab muslims into your country, over the safety and well-being of the native British people.

Like you said, you guys are arresting an arab muslim terrorism suspect once a day, and now you have another terrorist attack that succeeded, on top of many that haven't and you now have a military occupied London.  This doesn't include the muslim child rape organizations, the increase in murders, robberies and assaults, done by muslim men.

For what?  So people whose prophet is a child raping goat fucker can immigrate to it?

The UK is now considered a third world shit hole, your brexit vote was the last grasp for sanity and it seems you Britcucks actually like taking african and muslim dicks up your ass.

[K_Dubb]

Bearing in mind he sucked the shit out of the arses of the Saudis last week, he clearly hasn't got it what it means to be a ruler. Not that Putin would allow him such delusions of grandeur. It does explain why he never mentioned article five (I wonder if he actually knows what it is?) and hardly mentioned Russia. The same Russia that is leaning heavily on former SU countries (Now NATO allies). We can be forgiven in assuming that if Russia invaded a NATO country, Trump would encourage and maybe aid Russia against a NATO ally. I wonder how that would play with US military personnel based in Europe?

That's silly, Pud, article five and Russian expansionism is behind all of this.  A pro-Russian president wouldn't say a peep about NATO members' underspending.

[PB the Deplorable]

For someone who implies to have an almost encyclopaedic knowledge of American law and procedure...

This describes you more than it does me.  And it's spelled 'encyclopedic'.

For someone who implies to have an almost encyclopaedic knowledge of American law and procedure, the above laughable diatribe must, I assume be a whimsical flight of fancy: A stream of consciousness that you in a more sober and mellow enviornment would blush at the idea it was based on a reality that reasonable adults would be expected to swallow without question.

A few clues. The POTUS cannot issue, FISA warrants. Neither do they have access to the knowledge of their existence, the background to the reason one was issued, the people or entities involved, the legal basis for their execution or if they're abandoned down the line. In other words, your entire post is a lesson in make believe.

No the President doesn't issue FISA warrants.  The departments and agencies reporting to him do, such as the Attorney General's office and the FBI.  What makes you think Obama or his toadies in the White House didn't direct certain FISA warrants be authorized, why he wouldn't be told about others if they contained info he would be interested in, or why they wouldn't try to deceive a FISO judge?  The two Attorney Generals and their staff have certainly been demonstrated to be deeply corrupt and eager to carry out illegal activity on his behalf, so his ability to use FISA warrants and the information collected from them to spy on Trump is not in question.

The main difference in FISA warrants and warrants pertaining to Americans is ''probable cause''.  In gathering intel on Trump and his campaign through abuse of the FISA warrants and the unmasked incidental data collected, they were able to bypass producing probable cause when spying on him.  As Obama has shown great skill in going around the Constitution, and ignoring limits to his authority, as well as a penchant for spying on journalists and others, why would anyone think he would draw the line at this? 

As far as them then seeking out the ''incidental'' portions, unmasking the incidental portions, passing them around, and leaking them, well, how else did all that information on Trump and his associates get into the media?  Occam's Razor.  I think enough corruption in that administration has been documented for them to not receive the benefit of the doubt on where this all came from.

Being familiar with some of the players, some of their past behind-the-scenes roles which came out later, the tendencies of that Administration in general, and recent comments and actions (such as Susan Rice refusing to testify), I'm guessing Ms Rice took the lead role in the whole FISA intel gathering scheme:  directing the warrant requests, combing through intel collected on all FISA warrants for ''useful'' information, having specific incidental portions unmasked, passing it around to interested friendly parties, and putting it in a position to be leaked. 


Here are the thoughts of a National Review contributor on Obama's use of the FISA warrant process (this week), and the spying on Trump in particular (dated March 5):

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/447973/ 

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/445504/obama-camp-disingenuous-denials-fisa-surveillance-trump 

Please let me know which parts of this are ''whimsical flights of fancy'' I should be ''blushing'' over.

[PB the Deplorable]

So between Obama's spying on the Trump campaign and passing around collected information, and Hilary and the DNC colluding to deny Sanders the nomination, who is it again that ''interfered'' in the election?

[ItsOver]

So between Obama's spying on the Trump campaign and passing around collected information, and Hilary and the DNC colluding to deny Sanders the nomination, who is it again that ''interfered'' in the election?

I'm still waiting on my 100 rubles and a bottle of Stolichnaya for voting for The Donald.  Any day now.

[Dr. MD MD]

Just look at this collection of feckless assholes, acting like they're at a high school dance or something. No wonder Europe's in the horrible shape it's in.  :


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tyxYg9IVW8

[Zetaspeak]

This trip keeps giving.

Why do I have the sudden urge to write an op-ed piece for the dailycaller/breitbart/infowars about the dangers of women wearing head coverings.  Maybe Hannity can give me a block so I can scream my outrage on such an important American destroying gesture !

[Dr. MD MD]

Why do I have the sudden urge to write an op-ed piece for the dailycaller/breitbart/infowars about the dangers of women wearing head coverings.

I'm going to say because you're a unrepentant tool of the deep state. You love that deep state dick! 

[starrmtn001]

WATCH: President Trump BLASTS Leaders @ NATO, Tells Them They Need to Pay Their Share (FULL SPEECH)  5.25.17.


https://youtu.be/W_KrwW1Knms

[Juan]

Someone organize a fund to buy an umbrella for Shreddy.  Might as well get one for Yorkie, too.

[Dr. MD MD]

Ugh! I hate this sleazeball, political hack, Tafuri! Him and his stupid half unbuttoned shirt!  :

Watch Tucker deconstruct his bullshit. 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jOq1xpqsIOw

[Dr. MD MD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duwMZqQ8awc

[starrmtn001]

Fed Up Trey Gowdy Fires Warning Shot At Washington D C !  5.25.17.


https://youtu.be/IqL4WrcY9Uk

[Yorkshire pud]

Oh dear...Kushner is under scrutiny by the FBI. Didn't Kushner also recommend that Comey be fired? No wonder his father in law wanted the 'Russia thing' be packed away. Still, nothing to see. 

[Gd5150]

Time to serve Rice the subpenis and force her to answer to the house special chickens.

[Yorkshire pud]

This describes you more than it does me.  And it's spelled 'encyclopedic'.

No the President doesn't issue FISA warrants.  The departments and agencies reporting to him do, such as the Attorney General's office and the FBI.  What makes you think Obama or his toadies in the White House didn't direct certain FISA warrants be authorized, why he wouldn't be told about others if they contained info he would be interested in, or why they wouldn't try to deceive a FISO judge?  The two Attorney Generals and their staff have certainly been demonstrated to be deeply corrupt and eager to carry out illegal activity on his behalf, so his ability to use FISA warrants and the information collected from them to spy on Trump is not in question.

The main difference in FISA warrants and warrants pertaining to Americans is ''probable cause''.  In gathering intel on Trump and his campaign through abuse of the FISA warrants and the unmasked incidental data collected, they were able to bypass producing probable cause when spying on him.  As Obama has shown great skill in going around the Constitution, and ignoring limits to his authority, as well as a penchant for spying on journalists and others, why would anyone think he would draw the line at this? 

As far as them then seeking out the ''incidental'' portions, unmasking the incidental portions, passing them around, and leaking them, well, how else did all that information on Trump and his associates get into the media?  Occam's Razor.  I think enough corruption in that administration has been documented for them to not receive the benefit of the doubt on where this all came from.

Being familiar with some of the players, some of their past behind-the-scenes roles which came out later, the tendencies of that Administration in general, and recent comments and actions (such as Susan Rice refusing to testify), I'm guessing Ms Rice took the lead role in the whole FISA intel gathering scheme:  directing the warrant requests, combing through intel collected on all FISA warrants for ''useful'' information, having specific incidental portions unmasked, passing it around to interested friendly parties, and putting it in a position to be leaked. 


Here are the thoughts of a National Review contributor on Obama's use of the FISA warrant process (this week), and the spying on Trump in particular (dated March 5):

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/447973/ 

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/445504/obama-camp-disingenuous-denials-fisa-surveillance-trump 

Please let me know which parts of this are ''whimsical flights of fancy'' I should be ''blushing'' over.

Please show this corruption. Or is it just your 'being familiar' with them that makes you sure? Weird how you and the Trumpers are deluding yourselves/trolling, that Trump and his family/lackies are purer than the driven snow despite the numerous ongoing investigations, subpoenas being issued, requests to get financial records from the treasury, contradictions on what the agreed story is coming out of the WH, but you by some osmosis know that Obama ordered FISA warrants.

Fun fact: The outside lawyer Trump has secured has no experience with government policy cases. But he was the guy who represented Trump when Trump sued the author of a book about him, because the author said Trump was only worth at most $250 million and not the billions claimed. Trump sued for $5 Billion! And when the judge asked how he could prove his wealth, Trump said he went on how he felt (Because proof forthcoming, there came not) how much he was worth! Needless to say, Trump lost his case.

Oh that same lawyer represents a Russian bank, under investigation for money laundering...

[albrecht]

Oh dear...Kushner is under scrutiny by the FBI. Didn't Kushner also recommend that Comey be fired? No wonder his father in law wanted the 'Russia thing' be packed away. Still, nothing to see. 

This will please all those racist, xenophobic, anti-semites that elected Trump.  And please the leftists always bitching about Palestine. Politics make strange bedfellows. And the Russians, historically some of the most anti-semitic countries, is in bed with those evil Joose and took over the WH. Investigate!

That threat lasted a long time:
http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/britain/manchester-terror-attack-british-police-working-closely-with-us-again-after-fresh-assurances-35757166.html

[Yorkshire pud]

Time to serve Rice the subpenis and force her to answer to the house special chickens.

I think Kushner will be first.... 

[Yorkshire pud]

This will please all those racist, xenophobic, anti-semites that elected Trump.  And please the leftists always bitching about Palestine. Politics make strange bedfellows. And the Russians, historically some of the most anti-semitic countries, is in bed with those evil Joose and took over the WH. Investigate!

That threat lasted a long time:
http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/britain/manchester-terror-attack-british-police-working-closely-with-us-again-after-fresh-assurances-35757166.html

The anti Semites on this thread will be happy. But this shows what happens when a man baby has no close people he trusts outside family. And those are few. His wifedaughter and son in law...Not a large pool of talent considering Kushner has about ten jobs, even though he isn't qualified for any of them.

[albrecht]

The anti Semites on this thread will be happy. But this shows what happens when a man baby has no close people he trusts outside family. And those are few. His wifedaughter and son in law...Not a large pool of talent considering Kushner has about ten jobs, even though he isn't qualified for any of them.

Yeah, the "optics" are bad. Even if legal the appointment of so many family members make the WH look like one of the corrupt royalty you all had and not a modern representative republic's administration. Though, depending on situation, it is also silly to not hire, or use in some capacity, someone who qualified simply because they are related to someone or you. And when the whole media, basically, and about every foreign country, and the DC establishment- and career bureaucrats inside the system- are against you it helps to have some people who can trust near you, and that might be family.

More bark than its bite these days, that British Bulldog.
http://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/britain/manchester-terror-attack-british-police-working-closely-with-us-again-after-fresh-assurances-35757166.html