President Donald J. Trump

[Yorkshire pud]

More propaganda and obfuscation. 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycrJvOLEWc8

He must read the forum, he's wearing a shirt and washed his ears.

[Dr. MD MD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vkvGqN_loA

[Yorkshire pud]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vkvGqN_loA

Must be warm, the jacket is off..More or less gravitas? You decide. 

[GravitySucks]

Wikileaks is run by the FSB..The CIA said that. And how do you explain Trump saying he loved Wikileaks and called on Russia to release e mails (But oddly he's gone quiet on that now)? Then there's Roger Stone and Rudy Giuliani both miraculously tweeting and stating on TV about upcoming revelations that just happened to be made public a day or so later by Wikileaks. Flynn is still being cited by Trump as badly treated by anyone and everyone, and regrets firing him.

There are still a whole bunch of cabinet members you haven't named.

This post was about the Seth Rich story being/not being debunked. Don't obfuscate.

[Yorkshire pud]

There are still a whole bunch of cabinet members you haven't named.

This post was about the Seth Rich story being/not being debunked. Don't obfuscate.

Yes it has. Fox who were one of the main outlets have retracted the story, said there's no basis in fact. They were a bit late after every other news outlet said it was not true, but they got there.

[albrecht]

He must read the forum, he's wearing a shirt and washed his ears.

Ha! Maybe he is lurking here. Everyone knows BG is the place to be. Though I'm sure others have mentioned his questionable choice of apparel.

ps: I hear that the military is on the streets there. Sucks. Such a horrible event and the 'fake news' here is still pushing Russia, Russia, Russia while Muslims blow up people in our countries. Like with much of the peace on the Continent, a first generation born from dirty Muslim immigrants. I'm glad some of our politicians, like Trump are beginning to talk, and do, something about it.

Enoch was right. Although I'm not happy that he was right.

[GravitySucks]

Yes it has. Fox who were one of the main outlets have retracted the story, said there's no basis in fact. They were a bit late after every other news outlet said it was not true, but they got there.

To correct the record. That is not what Fox said. Read the retraction for yourself.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/05/23/statement-on-coverage-seth-rich-murder-investigation.html

[Dr. MD MD]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_f-pD0URZ-k

[21st Century Man]

Where's the outrage over this?  I want to hear from our friends on the left on Bellgab what they think about this.  Instead, all they do is bitch about Trump.  Obama should be prosecuted over this.

Obama intel agency secretly conducted illegal searches on Americans for years

http://circa.com/politics/barack-obamas-team-secretly-disclosed-years-of-illegal-nsa-searches-spying-on-americans

[WOTR]

Must be warm, the jacket is off..More or less gravitas? You decide. 

I'm thinking that for maximum impact it should be "leather jacket, no shirt, assless chaps, no pants."

[albrecht]

Where's the outrage over this?  I want to hear from our friends on the left on Bellgab what they think about this.  Instead, all they do is bitch about Trump.  Obama should be prosecuted over this.

Obama intel agency secretly conducted illegal searches on Americans for years

http://circa.com/politics/barack-obamas-team-secretly-disclosed-years-of-illegal-nsa-searches-spying-on-americans

I think everyone, who paid attention, knew this type of stuff was happening- even before Obama (or whatever his name is.) I find it bad, and likely illegal (though with some of the laws passed and 'agreements' between other countries agencies for reciprocity maybe there are some technicalities to make it legal.) I'm more concerned with why no, or limited action? Why so many of these bombers and attackers, usually- but not always- Muslim were "on the radar" and, considering the extent of surveillance why attacks allowed to happen? Simple government incompetence? Political correctness? Deeper agendas?  Actual concern for "civil rights" and the law? (If so, why doesn't that apply at routine traffic stops sometimes?) Why kid-gloves and special-handling when the suspect is "on the radar" and in contact/travel to known terrorists, Imams, or travels to areas of concern. Certainly that is far more dangerous than a suspected drug dealer.

And the ones, militia, Muslim, etc that are "stopped" (that we know of) are too frequently thrown-out in Court or plead down later when it shows it be near retarded people goaded into something by government agents and provocateurs. I'm not going so far as "inside jobs" and stuff but highly suspicious that people "on radar" "being investigated" "mole/informers in group" etc and the attacks still happen. And the stuff we catch are highly inept, mental cases who almost are coerced by agents. Heck, our own ARMY transfers an unstable, Muslim guy known to communicate with radicals to a another base, where most active duty aren't allowed to bear arms, and shoots it up. Then called "work place violence?" There was talk, I don't have time to rehash, that there were informants in Elohim City- both government and anti-hategroup activist folks. But OKC happened. It comes out that NSA, and others, are surveilling almost everybody- including Congress, but they wouldn't Trump? A billionaire who does deals around the world and was a candidate? And they can data-mine and track normal citizens but "can't find" emails on Hillary's unsecured, illegal server and free email accounts?  That sounds realistic.

[albrecht]

I'm thinking that for maximum impact it should be "leather jacket, no shirt, assless chaps, no pants."

And a handkerchief, color depending on his "preferences?"  I also saw the disturbing Friedkin movie a long time ago. Weird thing the real killer the movie was based on had a minor role in his earlier "Exorcist."

[Gyoza Girl]

What is your definition of debunked?

Seth Rich died in a suspicious murder. He might have been the source of the DNC server leaks. That much has not been debunked. Kim Dotcom claims he was involved in helping Seth Rich get that data to Wikileaks. That hasn't been debunked.

Maybe the reports about the independent PI have been walked back, but Seth Rich remains dead and there is more evidence that he is the source for Wikileaks than there is for the Russians being the source.

The DNC would not allow the FBI to have access to the server. They had it reviewed by their own contractor. I believe the owner of that company is Ukrainian and has a pretty strong hatred for Russia.

No evidence that the Russians hacked the DNC has been presented. Maybe they did, but that doesn't mean they were the source for Wikileaks. Or it could have been someone using the tools to make it look like a Russian hack.

Maybe Seth Rich was a random murder. I still think he was the source for Wikileaks. Maybe his death, even if not connected, will be the key to disclosing this whole Russian narrative has been a misdirection by the Clinton/Podesta/DNC crowd.

Well, I guess when the parents of Seth Rich write an opinion piece in The Washington Post debunking the story, I'd say the story has been debunked. The parents called the allegations "baseless," saying they've seen no evidence that his murder had anything to do with his job at the DNC.

Among other things, the Riches said an inspection of their son's computer "revealed no evidence of any communications with anyone at WikiLeaks or anyone associated with WikiLeaks," and that his job as a data analyst did not give him access to the DNC's, John Podesta's or Hillary's emails.

[GravitySucks]

Well, I guess when the parents of Seth Rich write an opinion piece in The Washington Post debunking the story, I'd say the story has been debunked. The parents called the allegations "baseless," saying they've seen no evidence that his murder had anything to do with his job at the DNC.

Among other things, the Riches said an inspection of their son's computer "revealed no evidence of any communications with anyone at WikiLeaks or anyone associated with WikiLeaks," and that his job as a data analyst did not give him access to the DNC's, John Podesta's or Hillary's emails.

Hillary's emails on Wikileaks weren't the result of being hacked. They were all released via the FOIA process and simply copied and indexed on Wikileaks.

Podesta had his account compromised due to a phishing scheme. Noone claimed Seth Rich had access.

Anyone with login credentials for the DNC server could have been the source for Wikileaks. As a "data analyst" I am pretty sure Seth Rich would have had log in credentials. That, and a thumb drive, would be all you would need.

[WOTR]

Where's the outrage over this?  I want to hear from our friends on the left on Bellgab what they think about this.  Instead, all they do is bitch about Trump.  Obama should be prosecuted over this.

Do I get to count as the left?  Good.

To call this an "Obama problem" is to minimize it and politicize it.  The "Obama intilligence" was the NSA.  Has anybody been paying attention for the last fucking decade?

Yes, Obama should be prosecuted along with every fucking member of the oversight committees, those who programmed the computers, the upper management at Ma Bell, Google, Micro$oft and every law maker who has been making these actions easier.

Is there a single person out there stupid enough to believe the NSA when it says that it will "“delete the vast majority of its upstream internet data to further protect the privacy of U.S. person communication?”  Is there seriously anybody dumb enough to believe that somewhere there is an official with their finger hovering over the "delete key?"

If I'm the "left" then I would say that to say "Obama did it" is a HUGE disservice to anybody who may be paying attention.  It is a culture from an agency with not enough oversight.  Yes, things got worse under him, but do you really think that Don cares what they collect on you?  I would LOVE to think that he is the anti-establishment guy who is going to restore common sense and some degree of privacy (he can start fining executives at the big companies who are raking in an equal amount of data as "his" NSA and then start with prison sentences from there.

"Agency officials called the violations “inadvertent compliance lapses.” But the court and IG documents suggest the NSA had not developed a technological way to comply with the rules they had submitted to the court in 2011."

Yes, 2011.  They found a way to hack every computer in the world, plant viruses, install petabytes of storage to sweep up the data that they "inadvertently collect"...  But they have not been able to write a program that would put them in compliance with what they promised three quarters of a decade ago.

I'm done. Yes, throw him in jail, but make its a supermax facility to house everybody else.  And prepare an adjoining cell for Donald Trump when he continues  these policies or even expands what they collect.

[PB the Deplorable]

Well, I guess when the parents of Seth Rich write an opinion piece in The Washington Post debunking the story, I'd say the story has been debunked. The parents called the allegations "baseless," saying they've seen no evidence that his murder had anything to do with his job at the DNC.

Among other things, the Riches said an inspection of their son's computer "revealed no evidence of any communications with anyone at WikiLeaks or anyone associated with WikiLeaks," and that his job as a data analyst did not give him access to the DNC's, John Podesta's or Hillary's emails.

So just another dead Democrat operative to add to the pile of bodies left in the wake of the Clintons?  Another ''unsolved, mysterious'' death to add to the body count surrounding those two.  Ho hum.

Ever wonder why Obama didn't choose her as VP?

[Gyoza Girl]

Hillary's emails on Wikileaks weren't the result of being hacked. They were all released via the FOIA process and simply copied and indexed on Wikileaks.

Podesta had his account compromised due to a phishing scheme. Noone claimed Seth Rich had access.

Anyone with login credentials for the DNC server could have been the source for Wikileaks. As a "data analyst" I am pretty sure Seth Rich would have had log in credentials. That, and a thumb drive, would be all you would need.

Here's what the parents said: "Indeed, those who have suggested that Seth’s role as a data analyst at the DNC gave him access to a wide trove of emails are simply incorrect â€" Seth’s job was to develop analytical models to encourage voters to turn out to vote. He didn’t have access to DNC emails, Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee emails, John Podesta’s emails or Hillary Clinton’s emails. That simply wasn’t his job."

I don't know why they would be so adamant unless they were absolutely certain, but I suppose it's possible they're mistaken.

I had a login to an online news publishing system, but that didn't allow me to go in and copy or edit other reporters' stories.

[Gyoza Girl]

So just another dead Democrat operative to add to the pile of bodies left in the wake of the Clintons?  Another ''unsolved, mysterious'' death to add to the body count surrounding those two.  Ho hum.

Ever wonder why Obama didn't choose her as VP?

I'm pretty sure the Clintons aren't murderers.

[GravitySucks]

Here's what the parents said: "Indeed, those who have suggested that Seth’s role as a data analyst at the DNC gave him access to a wide trove of emails are simply incorrect â€" Seth’s job was to develop analytical models to encourage voters to turn out to vote. He didn’t have access to DNC emails, Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee emails, John Podesta’s emails or Hillary Clinton’s emails. That simply wasn’t his job."

I don't know why they would be so adamant unless they were absolutely certain, but I suppose it's possible they're mistaken.

I had a login to an online news publishing system, but that didn't allow me to go in and copy or edit other reporters' stories.

They showed their ignorance of the entire situation by mentioning Podesta's and Hillary's emails.

I am sure they are still grieving - noone in my family ever knew what I had access to in any of my jobs. That is meaningless.

[PB the Deplorable]

I'm pretty sure the Clintons aren't murderers.

Of course not.  The Clinton's were never actually around for any of them. 

[PB the Deplorable]

They showed their ignorance of the entire situation by mentioning Podesta's and Hillary's emails.

I am sure they are still grieving - no one in my family ever knew what I had access to in any of my jobs. That is meaningless.

For them to come out now, with those kinds of statements... they may have been ''spoken to''.  Or maybe they just have a scumball lawyer advising them.

[Gyoza Girl]

They showed their ignorance of the entire situation by mentioning Podesta's and Hillary's emails.

I am sure they are still grieving - noone in my family ever knew what I had access to in any of my jobs. That is meaningless.

I thought exactly the same thing, about how the parents are still grieving. It must have been terribly difficult for them to write this in their op-ed:

"We know that Seth was abruptly confronted on the street, that he had been on the phone and quickly ended the call. We also know that there were signs of a struggle, including a watchband torn when the assailants attempted to rip it off his wrist. Law-enforcement officials told us that Seth’s murder looked like a botched robbery attempt in which the assailants â€" after shooting our son â€" panicked, immediately ran and abandoned Seth’s personal belongings."

This could explain why nothing was taken, but wow, how hard it must have been to share these details!

[Gyoza Girl]

Of course not.  The Clinton's were never actually around for any of them.

Well then, I'm pretty sure the Clintons never ordered any murders. Or I should say, I refuse to believe they ordered any murders, since I actually have no way of knowing for sure.

[albrecht]

For them to come out now, with those kinds of statements... they may have been ''spoken to''.  Or maybe they just have a scumball lawyer advising them.

This "random crime" victim's family (and it could be a random crime, though DC is getting A LOT better than the bad old days it is still violent and "urban" city with crime problems) have a "family spokesman," Brad Bauman, who is not family, but someone from a DNC and "progressive" connected outfit called the Pastorum Group which is a "a crisis communications and full service public relations firm.”
http://thepastorumgroup.com/ (very mysterious website, no details except contact information.)

Too bad all the "random crime" victims by Obama's open-border, divisive rhetoric, and "refugee" policies didn't get "family spokesman" and "crisis communications and full service public relations" help when their sons or daughters were raped, blown up, or murdered.

[malachi.martini]

Well then, I'm pretty sure the Clintons never ordered any murders. Or I should say, I refuse to believe they ordered any murders, since I actually have no way of knowing for sure.

[starrmtn001]

TRUMP ULTIMATE PEACE DEAL: President Donald Trump SPEECH at The Israel Museum in Jerusalem 23, 2017.


https://youtu.be/guUfilrSSbU

[starrmtn001]

LIVE President Donald Trump Italy Speech, Pope Francis Vatican, Welcome Ceremony, Mattarella, Rome.  5.23.17.
Started streaming 44 minutes ago
LIVE: President Donald Trump Italy Speech, Pope Francis Vatican, Welcome Ceremony, Sergio Mattarella, Rome

President Donald Trump and First Lady Melania Trump continue their 9-day, 5-nation tour in Rome and Belgium on Wednesday.
Both the president and first lady will attend a welcome ceremony at the Vatican in the morning before the president has a private audience with the Pope. Later, Mrs. Trump will join the president for an extended audience with His Holyness. After a meeting with the Cardinal Secretary of State Pietro Parolin, the first couple will tour the Sistine Chapel and St. Peters Basilica.
President Trump.


https://youtu.be/YPxYCRqkYu4

[21st Century Man]

And a handkerchief, color depending on his "preferences?"  I also saw the disturbing Friedkin movie a long time ago. Weird thing the real killer the movie was based on had a minor role in his earlier "Exorcist."

Cruising with Al Pacino a an undercover cop immersing himself in the underground gay culture looking for a serial killer.  I read about that.  Weird coincidence that the killer was based on the man who played a radiologist's assistant in the Exorcist.  Paul Bateson was his name.  Y'know what Jorch says.  There are no such things as coincidences.   I want to see that film.

[starrmtn001]

AMAZING: President Donald Trump Yad Vashem Speech, in Jerusalem, Israel May 23, 2017, Palestine, Bethlehem.


https://youtu.be/sgl5j5QZ8iE

[21st Century Man]

Do I get to count as the left?  Good.

To call this an "Obama problem" is to minimize it and politicize it.  The "Obama intilligence" was the NSA.  Has anybody been paying attention for the last fucking decade?

Yes, Obama should be prosecuted along with every fucking member of the oversight committees, those who programmed the computers, the upper management at Ma Bell, Google, Micro$oft and every law maker who has been making these actions easier.

Is there a single person out there stupid enough to believe the NSA when it says that it will "“delete the vast majority of its upstream internet data to further protect the privacy of U.S. person communication?”  Is there seriously anybody dumb enough to believe that somewhere there is an official with their finger hovering over the "delete key?"

If I'm the "left" then I would say that to say "Obama did it" is a HUGE disservice to anybody who may be paying attention.  It is a culture from an agency with not enough oversight.  Yes, things got worse under him, but do you really think that Don cares what they collect on you?  I would LOVE to think that he is the anti-establishment guy who is going to restore common sense and some degree of privacy (he can start fining executives at the big companies who are raking in an equal amount of data as "his" NSA and then start with prison sentences from there.

"Agency officials called the violations “inadvertent compliance lapses.” But the court and IG documents suggest the NSA had not developed a technological way to comply with the rules they had submitted to the court in 2011."

Yes, 2011.  They found a way to hack every computer in the world, plant viruses, install petabytes of storage to sweep up the data that they "inadvertently collect"...  But they have not been able to write a program that would put them in compliance with what they promised three quarters of a decade ago.

I'm done. Yes, throw him in jail, but make its a supermax facility to house everybody else.  And prepare an adjoining cell for Donald Trump when he continues  these policies or even expands what they collect.

I have no beef with you.  Put them all in jail, Republican and Democrat.  Thing is we have definitive proof with Obama.  Jail him and go after the rest.