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President Donald J. Trump

Started by The General, February 10, 2011, 11:33:34 PM

boxman

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 25, 2017, 11:43:12 PM
How about jobs?! That's not going to do anything for the average man. Are you shitting me?! Unbrainwash yourself now! Before it's too late!!  :D
And I have absolutely no faith in that he will deliver on that promise.
And what about minimum wage?? A large part of the working population are currently poor even though they work their ass off.
But since that is typical so called left politics I guess you are against that as well.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: TigerLily on January 25, 2017, 11:48:53 PM
Trump silences government scientists with gag orders
Employees at Environmental Protection Agency and Department of Agriculture are affected]

The Guide To Donald Trump's War On The Press (So Far)
http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/10/11/guide-donald-trumps-war-press-so-far/213290

With False Claims, Trump Attacks Media on Turnout and Intelligence Rift

President Trump's dangerous war on the media
The first war that President Trump has declared is a war against the news media.
In his first few days in the White House, the President and his advisers took direct aim at the reporters who are covering them. Standing in the headquarters of the CIA, President Trump decided to devote much of his remarks to assailing journalists.
"I have a running war with the media. They are among the most dishonest human beings on earth, right?"

The first 3 are obviously just your opinion as they categorically denied silencing any agency today. The media are among the most dishonest people with only 6% of you still trusting them.  ;)

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: boxman on January 25, 2017, 11:50:24 PM
And I have absolutely no faith in that he will deliver on that promise.
And what about minimum wage?? A large part of the working population are currently poor even though they work their ass off.
But since that is typical so called left politics I guess you are against that as well.

It's not a matter of faith. He already has delivered with commitments from many corporations so far. You can choose not to believe if you want but you can't deny the facts.  :D

WOTR

Quote from: Jacksta® on January 25, 2017, 11:44:11 PM
Trump's multiple conflicts of interest in the business world don't really concern me as much as his entire family sleeping with Jews does. Still, you know me--I don't judge.
Bonus points to tie Trump into JFK.  ;)

Quote from: TigerLily on January 25, 2017, 11:48:53 PM
Trump silences government scientists with gag orders
Employees at Environmental Protection Agency and Department of Agriculture are affected]

The Guide To Donald Trump's War On The Press (So Far)
http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/10/11/guide-donald-trumps-war-press-so-far/213290

With False Claims, Trump Attacks Media on Turnout and Intelligence Rift

President Trump's dangerous war on the media
The first war that President Trump has declared is a war against the news media.
In his first few days in the White House, the President and his advisers took direct aim at the reporters who are covering them. Standing in the headquarters of the CIA, President Trump decided to devote much of his remarks to assailing journalists.
"I have a running war with the media. They are among the most dishonest human beings on earth, right?"

EPA has been populated with a bunch of fringe leftist clowns who themselves won't tolerate a free and open discussion and seriously you are posting a link to Media Matters, that fringe site managed by David Brock?  As for the media, they haven't exactly been impartial during this whole election season.  He has every right to be mad at them. Show me some real news sites that say Trump is censoring speech and I'll get back with you.  Media Matters is about as far left as Stalin.

Quote from: boxman on January 25, 2017, 11:04:32 PM
Always amazes me how brainwashed you americans are brainwashed to see it as left vs right no matter what.
Why is everything black and white for you guys?? Both right wings and left wings have certain policies that are good and bad, but yet you divide yourself into camps where you hate every single policy from the other camp.

That's an excellent question, and I wonder about that, too, because I've never been able to understand how anyone can view world events in absolute terms. There are plenty of gray areas, but political extremists on the right and left unfortunately refuse to acknowledge them for their own selfish reasons, and are quick to consider anyone who does as a dupe of the other side's echo chamber. As a result, reasonable political discourse is all but impossible any more, and I lament its passing.


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: 21st Century Man on January 25, 2017, 11:56:10 PM
EPA has been populated with a bunch of fringe leftist clowns who themselves won't tolerate a free and open discussion and seriously you are posting a link to Media Matters, that fringe site managed by David Brock?  As for the media, they haven't exactly been impartial during this whole election season.  He has every right to be mad at them. Show me some real news sites that say Trump is censoring speech and I'll get back with you.  Media Matters is about as far left as Stalin.

None of them care. They're either convinced we have no memory or they really don't.  ;)

boxman

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 25, 2017, 11:54:02 PM
It's not a matter of faith. He already has delivered with commitments from many corporations so far. You can choose not to believe if you want but you can't deny the facts.  :D
Oh a few thousand jobs, I am sure that is going to be a big deal for a population of more than 300 million.
It might look good when he saves a factory here and there, but it really is not more than a drop in the ocean.

Upping the minimum wage would create alot more jobs as that would mean more consumers.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on January 25, 2017, 11:58:22 PM
That's an excellent question, and I wonder about that, too, because I've never been able to understand how anyone can view world events in absolute terms. There are plenty of gray areas, but political extremists on the right and left unfortunately refuse to acknowledge them for their own selfish reasons, and are quick to consider anyone who does as a dupe of the other side's echo chamber. As a result, reasonable political discourse is all but impossible any more, and I lament its passing.

I'm still waiting for an actual reasonable point to consider from you guys that's not just demagoguery or name calling. Let me know when you get there.  ;)

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: boxman on January 25, 2017, 11:59:28 PM
Oh a few thousand jobs, I am sure that is going to be a big deal for a population of more than 300 million.
It might look good when he saves a factory here and there, but it really is not more than a drop in the ocean.

Upping the minimum wage would create alot more jobs as that would mean more consumers.

You're obviously an entrenched leftist who's not paying any attention at all. Alibaba was talking 500 000 jobs; about 100 000 at Softbank; all the auto sector jobs, etc, etc. but yeah, he sucks and doesn't know what he's doing.  ::) ;D

Meister_000

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 25, 2017, 11:48:22 PM
Millions of us voted for him and therefore think he's qualified. I don't need to refer to a CIA trap like Google to prove that.  ::) ;D


His "qualifications" were (uniformly) the least important "criterion" concidered, weighed, or valued by his supporters (obviously).

boxman

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 26, 2017, 12:03:53 AM
You're obviously an entrenched leftist who's not paying any attention at all. Alibaba was talking 500 000 jobs; about 100 000 at Softbank; all the auto sector jobs, etc, etc. but yeah, he sucks and doesn't know what he's doing.  ::) ;D
And there you go again with labelling me with one group, just because I am for liveable wages.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Meister_000 on January 26, 2017, 12:05:47 AM

His "qualifications" were (uniformly) the least important "criterion" concidered, weighed, or valued by his supporters (obviously).

That's not even a complete sentence. Was there a thought you were trying to express in there...somewhere?  ???

GravitySucks

Quote from: Meister_000 on January 26, 2017, 12:05:47 AM

His "qualifications" were (uniformly) the least important "criterion" concidered, weighed, or valued by his supporters (obviously).

He is orders of magnitude more qualified than Obama was. As far as the economy, he is orders of magnitude more qualified than Clinton (either of them).

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: boxman on January 26, 2017, 12:06:51 AM
And there you go again with labelling me with one group, just because I am for liveable wages.

You won't acknowledge any good Trump might be doing and seem to know very little about it and certainly show no interest in learning. I think it's safe for me to label you as part of the irrational left now.  ;)

GravitySucks

Quote from: boxman on January 25, 2017, 11:59:28 PM
Oh a few thousand jobs, I am sure that is going to be a big deal for a population of more than 300 million.
It might look good when he saves a factory here and there, but it really is not more than a drop in the ocean.

Upping the minimum wage would create alot more jobs as that would mean more consumers.

There is nothing stopping a state or even a city from setting a higher minimum wage. Many do. It shouldn't be a federal issue. States need to be responsible and take their powers back.

boxman

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 26, 2017, 12:09:14 AM
You won't acknowledge any good Trump might be doing and seem to know very little about it and certainly show no interest in learning. I think it's safe for me to label you as part of the irrational left now.  ;)
QuoteHe has done some good like the TPP and nafta.
Really??
I am also for stricter immigration policies/border control as well.

If he does end up creating alot of jobs I will give him credit for that. I just do not believe in the long run that he will create much of anything and I hope he proves me wrong on that.

Quote from: GravitySucks on January 26, 2017, 12:11:04 AM
There is nothing stopping a state or even a city from setting a higher minimum wage. Many do. It shouldn't be a federal issue. States need to be responsible and take their powers back.

Exactly. Well-said.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: boxman on January 26, 2017, 12:13:47 AM
Really??
I am also for stricter immigration policies/border control as well.

If he does end up creating alot of jobs I will give him credit for that. I just do not believe in the long run that he will create much of anything and I hope he proves me wrong on that.

No offense but he already is proving you wrong. I know that can be a hard thing to accept though. PlayDoh, crayons, etc. You'll be OK!  ;)

boxman

Quote from: GravitySucks on January 26, 2017, 12:11:04 AM
There is nothing stopping a state or even a city from setting a higher minimum wage. Many do. It shouldn't be a federal issue. States need to be responsible and take their powers back.
Which means nothing will change. Besides the war on drugs the unliveable minimum wages is one of the main reasons for crime rates as well.

GravitySucks

Quote from: boxman on January 26, 2017, 12:16:52 AM
Which means nothing will change. Besides the war on drugs the unliveable minimum wages is one of the main reasons for crime rates as well.

I live in a relatively low cost of living area. Every job I see advertised (even jobs like HomeDepot and Walmart) all start out several dollars above minimum wage. Employers know they need to pay more to get better quality employees.

Quote from: GravitySucks on January 26, 2017, 12:19:10 AM
I live in a relatively low cost of living area. Every job I see advertised (even jobs like HomeDepot and Walmart) all start out several dollars above minimum wage. Employers know they need to pay more to get better quality employees.

Same here and I live in Georgia which is a right-to-work state.

boxman

Quote from: GravitySucks on January 26, 2017, 12:19:10 AM
I live in a relatively low cost of living area. Every job I see advertised (even jobs like HomeDepot and Walmart) all start out several dollars above minimum wage. Employers know they need to pay more to get better quality employees.
I am not saying there are not states or companies that offer higher minimum wages. What I am saying is that as a whole nothing will change, as there is no way most states will do that voluntarily. Even most of those that has raised it recently has still not kept up with inflation.

All I am saying is that minimum wages should be liveable.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: boxman on January 26, 2017, 12:23:16 AM
I am not saying there are not states or companies that offer higher minimum wages. What I am saying is that as a whole nothing will change, as there is no way most states will do that voluntarily. Even most of those that has raised it recently has still not kept up with inflation.

All I am saying is that minimum wages should be liveable.

We voted out a can't do government for a can do one.  ;)

boxman

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 26, 2017, 12:25:46 AM
We voted out a can't do government for a can do one.  ;)
Just to make it clear.. I have absolutely no faith in Hillary doing any better either. :P

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: boxman on January 26, 2017, 12:29:42 AM
Just to make it clear.. I have absolutely no faith in Hillary doing any better either. :P

Trump could have a pig in every pot and all the streets paved with gold by the end of his term and there are many here who would still be calling him Hitler and blaming the Russians.  ;D

GravitySucks

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 26, 2017, 12:25:46 AM
We voted out a can't do government for a can do one.  ;)

Actually, I viewed Trump as the third party candidate. I have troubles with both the democrats and republicans. Many more problems with the democrats though.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: GravitySucks on January 26, 2017, 12:32:17 AM
Actually, I viewed Trump as the third party candidate. I have troubles with both the democrats and republicans. Many more problems with the democrats though.

Me too. He's essentially an old school New York Democrat who stole the Republican party out from under their feet. Which makes his victory even sweeter to me :D

Lt.Uhura

Quote from: TigerLily on January 25, 2017, 11:48:53 PM
Trump silences government scientists with gag orders
Employees at Environmental Protection Agency and Department of Agriculture are affected]

The Guide To Donald Trump's War On The Press (So Far)
http://mediamatters.org/research/2016/10/11/guide-donald-trumps-war-press-so-far/213290

With False Claims, Trump Attacks Media on Turnout and Intelligence Rift

President Trump's dangerous war on the media
The first war that President Trump has declared is a war against the news media.
In his first few days in the White House, the President and his advisers took direct aim at the reporters who are covering them. Standing in the headquarters of the CIA, President Trump decided to devote much of his remarks to assailing journalists.
"I have a running war with the media. They are among the most dishonest human beings on earth, right?"


👍  I guess there are no historians or social psychologists in the Trump administration, otherwise they'd know better than to intimidate through propaganda and attempt to silence or censor peoples' freedom to speak freely and share information. Trump's thin skin, weak ego has left this administration with zero tolerance for criticism.

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