Started by The General, February 11, 2011, 01:33:34 AM
Quote from: GravitySucks on January 18, 2016, 02:56:37 PMI agree with most of that, but I saw Romney as more of a moderate than a conservative. And one thing I have never heard discussed, probably because it was politically incorrect, and that is my gut tells me a lot of the evangelicals did not vote for Romney strictly because he was a Mormon. You don't hear that discussed anywhere. Obama got less popular votes in 2012 than he did in 2008 and he still won. Something caused the Rebublican base to sit that one out, and I think it was the fact the Romney was a Mormon.
Quote from: SciFiAuthor on January 18, 2016, 02:51:13 PMTo be honest, I think the GOP has been taking huge risks since Bush left office by running establishment candidates that were unlikely to win elections. McCain/Palin was a risk, Romney was a risk, Trump less so because he actually has a shot at winning. He's the least risky up there. That's what's so weird about the establishment and social conservative mindset, everyone knows that it doesn't resonate any longer with enough of the population to win presidential elections, yet the GOP wants to keep going out of their way to put up unelectable candidates. It doesn't even work with candidates seen as anti-establishment, Ted Cruz can no more win an election against Hillary than I can sprout wings and fly away. It's just a matter of the electoral college, conservatives should have learned from Romney that the playing field is different now and trying to win with the same old socially conservative principles isn't going to cut it from here on out. The best thing the GOP could do is take notes from the libertarians instead of the preachers. Gay marriage isn't an issue worth losing elections over, opposition to pot legalization isn't an issue worth losing elections over, abortion is an unsolvable issue that isn't worth losing elections over, and so on. Barry Goldwater said as much decades ago, but no one listened. Instead, the GOP allowed the religious right to set the post 1970's agenda. It's done so for so long that we now have candidates like Cruz that outright act like preachers hoping to snow the evangelicals into voting for them based on how they carry themselves. It's ridiculous.
Quote from: Designx on January 18, 2016, 03:18:43 PMi don't think an outspoken religious right candidate will win a presidential election in the United States ever again. The country is in the the midst of an immoral revolution. The Republicans will have to go to the middle to even stay relevant. The Democrats still hold the sweet candy stick and that's why a Democrat will win in 2016.
Quote from: SciFiAuthor on January 18, 2016, 03:01:28 PMI just don't see the difference between Trump and Teddy Roosevelt. The same things can be said of both.
Quote from: VtaGeezer on January 18, 2016, 03:12:26 PMToday Limbaugh and Levin both kept faith with their fundie audiences and went after Trump for calling out the asshole from TX as nasty and roundly disliked; a 100% true description. When will the fools realize that their goal is not good government, but more sales of Gold Bond Powder and the latest drek from Regnery Publishing.
Quote from: MV on January 19, 2016, 12:23:17 PMI listen to Rush daily these days, but he's lost touch a bit when it comes to this blind adherence of his to the "conservative" label. Candidates like Cruz can call themselves "conservative" all they want, but it doesn't matter if the candidate can't win and implement an agenda that fixes the country. Trump can win nationally, and he'll actually implement the policy agenda items that Rush's listeners have been claiming they want for the last 25 years, from tax reform to border reform to defense reform. Cruz is a slimy, calculating phony who can't possibly win a general election and his campaign has too many special interest connections to accomplish anything meaningful once elected. america doesn't want a preacher in chief.
Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on January 19, 2016, 03:31:52 PMSarah Palin just officially endorsed Trump.
Quote from: MV on January 19, 2016, 12:23:17 PMCruz is a slimy, calculating phony who can't possibly win a general election and his campaign has too many special interest connections to accomplish anything meaningful once elected. america doesn't want a preacher in chief.
Quote from: PING on January 19, 2016, 05:30:11 PMSadly I took that quiz posted a few weeks ago & was tied with Cruz & Rubio. Ugh please shoot me nowTed Cruz is Hollywood casting for a B-movie swarthy sleazy slimy televangelist. He reminds me of Ernest Angley. I grew up in the DC area. When I was a kid I'd watch WWF rasslin' Saturday mornings at 11AM on Channel 20. The show preceding rasslin' at 10AM was Ernest Angley. I remember catching the last few minutes of his show where he'd say things like "reach into your pocket...that money there...it's GOD'S money & he wants you to send it to me!" Even as a kid I knew he was full of shit. It was also the first inkling that rasslin' might not be real, because if Ernest was full of shit, then maybe WWF wasn't too...I'm hoping Trump gets it all. Not because I am a big supporter, but for the show value. We as a country are going down the drain. At least with Trump in there the fall will be entertaining to watch.
Quote from: The King of Kings on January 19, 2016, 08:04:26 PMDone with Trump. What a fucking disgrace having Palin on stage with him.'What was he thinking?
Quote from: PING on January 19, 2016, 05:30:11 PMI'm hoping Trump gets it all. Not because I am a big supporter, but for the show value. We as a country are going down the drain. At least with Trump in there the fall will be entertaining to watch.
Quote from: Jackstar on January 19, 2016, 10:21:14 PMI'll be honest here: this is almost precisely how I felt about the Obama presidency, eight years ago. "This is gonna be great, hells yeah!!!"So, ask yourself... has it been? Well, for me, it's been a little column A, and a little column B, and a whole lot of wtf.I have yet to find out if I have the sack to actually vote for Trump when the day comes, but this time, I probably won't be thinking quite so much about how great the schadenfreude is gonna be. (spoilers: it's gonna be awesome)
Quote from: PING on January 19, 2016, 11:36:28 PMOops. Bad timing for Palin: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/sarah-palin-s-son-track-arrested-domestic-violence-charges-eve-n499976
Quote from: Lt.Uhura on January 20, 2016, 02:43:48 AMIs this the news or a Saturday Night Live skit?!
Quote from: Jackstar on January 20, 2016, 02:48:58 AMI'ma get back to you on this, but first, I have to arrange to have my balls gently cupped for twenty-one minutes.
Quote from: VtaGeezer on January 20, 2016, 10:14:13 AMPalin was a no-show at a Trump rally in IA today where she was supposed to appear with him. She's probably back in Wasilla trying to get her asshole son off.
Quote from: GravitySucks on January 20, 2016, 10:46:01 AMI guess it must be an Alaska thing. Who keeps a fucking bed outside of their house?