President Donald J. Trump

[Jackstar]

apparently not a first responder on September 11, 2001 as he has stated

I called this. Praise KEK

[CornyCrow]

You can sue them for malpractice, at least here, but unless there was really gross negliance (not just coming out looking bad) you will likely not win. Also since (usually) it was an elective surgery you likely signed things about consent and knowledge of possible dangers and also that will bias some people ("she should've never even had the surgery, what a vain person, etc.")

I think the Clintons, Stein, Rinos, etc are upset over Obama's speech today. He basically said the election was valid and not hacked, Trump is the next President and he is advising him (as previous President did for him,) and admitted that the DNC had problems because they are viewed by much of the people as "latte-sipping people living in coastal cities who don't get it" (paraphrased, I cannot recall the exact quote.)

I knew that about suing cosmetic surgeons.  You can't win because aesthetics is a matter of opinion, I believe.  Yes, malpractice is if you might be left with a bad infection or maybe a closed nostril.

I heard Obama say that.  I think he tries very much to be impartial, fair, and reasonable.  I agree with him.  I don't like Trump, especially for all the carbon-based fuel promoters who are his advisors, but the election was legal and is over and done with.  I would prefer one man, one vote, and no electors, but we have what we have.  I just hope he makes good decisions while in office and does not damage the environment further.  His history is not as a 'true believer' but as a pragmatist business guy who is only concerned with adding to his coffers.  This, at the least, will be interesting.

[Yorkshire pud]

Busted Fake Elector Chris Suprun Hires Two PR Firms

Copied from another site:

And get this.  Here's the piece de resistance.  "Two public relations firms he has hired ... responded to our requests for an interview saying: 'Suprun's schedule is jammed packed.'"

The first PR firm that this Republican elector hired is Megaphone Strategies.  You know whose that is?  Van Jones.  Well-known communist, commentator on CNN, disgraced former member of the Obama administration.

Let's see.  "Fenton Communications has..." That's the other PR firm. They have done work, they've done public relations work for Marxist dictators and Cindy Sheehan.  So these are the two PR firms the guy has hired to sort of navigate the storm here.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2016/12/16/the_new_york_times_printed_fake_news_from_a_fake_9_11_first_responder_because_he_s_an_anti_trump_elector

Supposedly Chris Suprun is broke.  So who is paying these two PR firms, both with ties to the DNC?

I think this whole thing was a DNC set-up, from the moment Chis Suprun sign-up as an elector.  And he got busted.  But probably well paid and indemnified.

Just like those fake Hillary Townhalls and fake debate questions and fake podium and fake recount.....

Paranoid. Much?

[albrecht]

I knew that about suing cosmetic surgeons.  You can't win because aesthetics is a matter of opinion, I believe.  Yes, malpractice is if you might be left with a bad infection or maybe a closed nostril.

I heard Obama say that.  I think he tries very much to be impartial, fair, and reasonable.  I agree with him.  I don't like Trump, especially for all the carbon-based fuel promoters who are his advisors, but the election was legal and is over and done with.  I would prefer one man, one vote, and no electors, but we have what we have.  I just hope he makes good decisions while in office and does not damage the environment further.  His history is not as a 'true believer' but as a pragmatist business guy who is only concerned with adding to his coffers.  This, at the least, will be interesting.

They get a bad rap, and rightfully so in some circumstances, but the "Big Guys" in the energy sector, contrary to C2C guest's and environmentalists' claims, aren't bent on destroying the earth and actually don't like unstable oil&gas prices. The speculators like instablity but people (see what I did there?) like Big Oil Corps etc think and plan long term and instability in prices are not liked. They also would be one of the first to find a way to benefit from a Gore-style carbon trading scheme (besides the bankers) because they think longer term (so could plan) than politicians here do and would have politicians write the law so that they could benefit. What they don't like is not knowing what the government(s) are going to do with regard to regulation, taxes, carbon trading schemes, etc. In some ways, like with fracking etc, there is a public benefit for the larger guys to be involved rather than the small companies, especially when prices are low. They are less likely, usually, to 'cut corners' and risk a spill or event where the small guys are now over-leveraged and desparate to still exist.

[Juan]

Trump has put together a model progressive cabinet.  A primary tenant of progressivism is rule by experts, and Trump has assembled reputed experts.

[pyewacket]

Paranoid. Much?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It984qXn0m0

At least pate will get this... it's a pateism 

[3OctaveFart]

A few of you neo-conservatives sound like a ball to hang out with for a night.

Except for Jackstar, of course. He'll always offer to bring the fentanyl from his private stash.

There's probably very good reason Paper*Boy has 400 pages of posts (more like mini-moral lectures) on this message forum.

[Yorkshire pud]

Trump has put together a model progressive cabinet.  A primary tenant of progressivism is rule by experts, and Trump has assembled reputed experts.

What? He's going to make America great again......isn't he?

Policy Tweet later

[Jackstar]

https://media.8ch.net/file_store/a91ea9266e15471e13f2fd3ee42aabfd9ae90c4e1904796c1d7e0b7396180b04.webm

[WOTR]

Turns out, federal court records show Suprun has spent the last five years in bankruptcy...

With a resume like that, and the similarities he shares with the president-elect, you would think that voting Trump would be automatic.

[starrmtn001]

LIVE Stream: President-Elect Donald Trump Rally in Mobile, AL 12/17/16.


https://youtu.be/xcmcv4EDSNc

[pyewacket]

For those still clinging to the popular vote stats...

It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California
Outside California, Hillary Clinton lost the popular vote by 1.4 million to Donald Trump. (ZUMAPRESS.com/Newscom)

    JOHN MERLINE
    12/16/2016

Democrats who are having trouble getting out of the first stage of grief â€" denial â€" aren't being helped by the fact that, now that all the votes are counted, Hillary Clinton's lead in the popular vote has topped 2.8 million, giving her a 48% share of the vote compared with Trumps 46%.

To those unschooled in how the United States selects presidents, this seems totally unfair. But look more closely at the numbers and you see that Clinton's advantage all but disappears.

As we noted in this space earlier, while Clinton's overall margin looks large and impressive, it is due to Clinton's huge margin of victory in one state â€" California â€" where she got a whopping 4.3 million more votes than Trump.

California is the only state, in fact, where Clinton's margin of victory was bigger than President Obama's in 2012 â€" 61.5% vs. Obama's 60%.

But California is the exception that proves the true genius of the Electoral College â€" which was designed to prevent regional candidates from dominating national elections.

In recent years, California has been turning into what amounts to a one-party state. Between 2008 and 2016, the number of Californian's who registered as Democrats climbed by 1.1 million, while the number of registered Republicans dropped by almost 400,000.

What's more, many Republicans in the state had nobody to vote for in November.

There were two Democrats â€" and zero Republicans â€" running to replace Sen. Barbara Boxer. There were no Republicans on the ballot for House seats in nine of California's congressional districts.

At the state level, six districts had no Republicans running for the state senate, and 16 districts had no Republicans running for state assembly seats.

Plus, since Republicans knew Clinton was going to win the state â€" and its entire 55 electoral votes â€" casting a ballot for Trump was virtually meaningless, since no matter what her margin of victory, Clinton was getting all 55 votes.

Is it any wonder then, that Trump got 11% fewer California votes than John McCain did in 2008? (Clinton got 6% more votes than Obama did eight years ago, but the number of registered Democrats in the state climbed by 13% over those years.)

If you take California out of the popular vote equation, then Trump wins the rest of the country by 1.4 million votes. And if California voted like every other Democratic state â€" where Clinton averaged 53.5% wins â€" Clinton and Trump end up in a virtual popular vote tie. (This was not the case in 2012. Obama beat Romney by 2 million votes that year, not counting California.)

Meanwhile, if you look at every other measure, Trump was the clear and decisive winner in this election.

***

Number of states won:
Trump: 30
Clinton: 20
_________________
Trump: +10

Number of electoral votes won:
Trump: 306
Clinton: 232
_________________
Trump: + 68

Ave. margin of victory in winning states:
Trump: 56%
Clinton: 53.5%
_________________
Trump: + 2.5 points

Popular vote total:
Trump: 62,958,211
Clinton: 65,818,318
_________________
Clinton: + 2.8 million

Popular vote total outside California:
Trump: 58,474,401
Clinton: 57,064,530
_________________
Trump: + 1.4 million

http://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/its-official-clintons-popular-vote-win-came-entirely-from-california/

[mikuthing01]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gml0x5UVBl8

God Bless America! 

[Jackstar]

Semper fidelis.

[21st Century Man]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gml0x5UVBl8

God Bless America! 

Thanks for posting this, miku.  God Bless and RIP, Marine.

[PB the Deplorable]

Hi, I'm an on-line shill for Hilary.  She's so dreamy.

Don't be bitter

[Yorkshire pud]

Now that Trump has potentially appointed the wealthiest cabinet ever (swamp draining) in Presidential history, including the very people he not only forcefully berated, but his supporters blame for the mess they find themselves in; When will it become apparent to those supporters that he's sold them a bum steer, and he's not so much a President of the USA, but simply using the position to extend Trump inc and make his personal wealth more than it is?

He's appointed an ex exec of Exxon who is a personal friend of Putin, and has been awarded a medal from him! And little from his supporters to think that strange. All his cabinet are billionaires or multi millionaires, and no 'normal' people. His philosophy being to run the USA like an extension of a corporation. Someone should let him know you can't run a country like a business, because a business has one purpose, a country has thousands.

Still; give him a chance eh?

[3OctaveFart]

Don't be bitter

You will ask for my permission next time you presume to speak for me or my voting interests.

Sound good, cunt?

[PB the Deplorable]

A few of you neo-conservatives sound like a ball to hang out with for a night.

Except for Jackstar, of course. He'll always offer to bring the fentanyl from his private stash.

There's probably very good reason Paper*Boy has 400 pages of posts (more like mini-moral lectures) on this message forum.

Don't make assumptions about me in your posts and we'll get along fine.  You choose.

[Up All Night]

It's Official: Clinton's Popular Vote Win Came Entirely From California
http://www.investors.com/politics/commentary/its-official-clintons-popular-vote-win-came-entirely-from-california/

It would be the Dems Wet Dream to have the US Presidency decided by a "Two-State Solution" --
Just counting the votes of CA & NY.

[3OctaveFart]

Don't make assumptions about me in your posts and we'll get along fine.  You choose.

[WOTR]

He's appointed an ex exec of Exxon who is a personal friend of Putin, and has been awarded a medal from him! And little from his supporters to think that strange. All his cabinet are billionaires or multi millionaires, and no 'normal' people.

Stop being so cynical.  I posted months back that any billionaire will be a "friend to the common man."  This just solidify my belief.  They will have the best interest of "joe six pack" at heart in all of their decisions (and how best to transfer a few more dollars out of his pocket into theirs.)

I foresee four years of disillusionment and disappointment for the conservative voters.  It will go well with the last eight that the liberals suffered.

But the NEXT president.  He will combine hope and change to make America great.  He will be the one who really shakes things up and helps the average voter. 

[PB the Deplorable]

... I foresee four years of disillusionment and disappointment for the conservative voters...

The 'conservative voters' voted against Hilary, not for Trump.  His victory was a defeat for Obama, ''Progressives'', Democrats, the Left, Hilary, the globalists, Big Media, the Hollywood Left, the leftists in academia, Big Government, the DC establishment, racist groups like La Raza, the Left Coast and Right Coast Liberals, and the establishment Republicans.  There's a lot for 'Conservatives' to like in there.  Considering there weren't any Conservatives on the ballot, that's a pretty good start. 

As far as his transition, he's appointed people from the military in posts ex-military belong in:  Defense, National Security, and Homeland Security.  For other positions he's appointed intelligent, experienced people from outside Washington - people with real accomplishments in life, achievements other than sitting in hearings, fundraising, and figuring out ways to get themselves elected and re-elected - rather than the usual politically connected hack lawyers and retread politicians.  Do people really not understand this is a Good Thing?  As with all Cabinets, some will do well and others will be replaced.

At this point, the losers are just making things up to horrible-ize a Trump Presidency.  Straight out of the same old Democrat playbook:  lie, smear, attack, twist, spin, divide, delegitimize.

It's just that this time Big Media have finally realized they will never have full control over the ''news'' again.  Panicking over that, they are in an absolute frenzy of disarray, unable to control themselves they  have discarded even the pretense they are even handed journalists - so it's more amplified.  It's not working, and when Trump has a few early successes this whole group of America haters will have to abandon most of this and come up with a new narrative.

[21st Century Man]

The 'conservative voters' voted against Hilary, not for Trump.  His victory was a defeat for Obama, ''Progressives'', Democrats, the Left, Hilary, the globalists, Big Media, the Hollywood Left, the leftists in academia, Big Government, the DC establishment, racist groups like La Raza, the Left Coast and Right Coast Liberals, and the establishment Republicans.  There's a lot for 'Conservatives' to like in there.  Considering there weren't any Conservatives on the ballot, that's a pretty good start. 

Exactly.  I have grown to like Trump to a degree but my vote was always a vote against the other party.  The Democratic Party is worthless and its goals do not pertain to the best interests of the American people.  It is time for the Democrats to change or be relegated to the wastebin of history.

[3OctaveFart]

In 2008 people were calling the Republican party a regional party, which it was at the time. These things are never static.

If the Dems ditch identity politics, and they really must if they have taken any lesson from this and/or wish to be viable, the pendulum will swing again.

[albrecht]

The 'conservative voters' voted against Hilary, not for Trump.  His victory was a defeat for Obama, ''Progressives'', Democrats, the Left, Hilary, the globalists, Big Media, the Hollywood Left, the leftists in academia, Big Government, the DC establishment, racist groups like La Raza, the Left Coast and Right Coast Liberals, and the establishment Republicans.  There's a lot for 'Conservatives' to like in there.  Considering there weren't any Conservatives on the ballot, that's a pretty good start. 

As far as his transition, he's appointed people from the military in posts ex-military belong in:  Defense, National Security, and Homeland Security.  For other positions he's appointed intelligent, experienced people from outside Washington - people with real accomplishments in life, achievements other than sitting in hearings, fundraising, and figuring out ways to get themselves elected and re-elected - rather than the usual politically connected hack lawyers and retread politicians.  Do people really not understand this is a Good Thing?  As with all Cabinets, some will do well and others will be replaced.

At this point, the losers are just making things up to horrible-ize a Trump Presidency.  Straight out of the same old Democrat playbook:  lie, smear, attack, twist, spin, divide, delegitimize.

It's just that this time Big Media have finally realized they will never have full control over the ''news'' again.  Panicking over that, they are in an absolute frenzy, un able to control themselves, and have discarded even the pretense they are even handed journalists, so it's more amplified.  It's not working, and when Trump has a few early successes this whole group of America haters will have to abandon most of this and come up with a new narrative.

Yep, I turned on NPR after Rex Tillerson was announced and the "reporter" said "will he be looking out for Exxon's interests or the country's" as a standard default thinking position that what is good for Exxon (or other companies) is bad for the country or not in our country's interest. It wasn't even considered by the panel of "reporters" that companies, even "evil" energy companies, employ people, buy things, pay taxes, give dividends to investors and retirement plans, are held by unions, teacher retirement plans, etc and provide us energy. It is so crazy the ingrained mindset that all employers are bad and that strong American companies are the enemy that the DNC has is why they loose elections. Yes some companies can be bad. Sure accidents can happen. But to act like any successful business or person is the enemy is crazy.

We will see, but to come up through the ranks like Rex did is like enlisting and becoming a general in the military. You have to be smart, calm, experience many different jobs/positions, deal with people, make deals with other countries and companies, learn how to promote good people, manage people, etc. Exxon is very regimented, like the military, and if you don't perform you will get stuck at a certain "rank." His performance to me shows that he could be a good SOS. Certainly better than Billary.

[21st Century Man]

In 2008 people were calling the Republican party a regional party, which it was at the time. These things are never static.

If the Dems ditch identity politics, and they really must if they have taken any lesson from this and/or wish to be viable, the pendulum will swing again.

They won't ditch identity politics.  That is their stock and trade.

[PB the Deplorable]

... He's appointed an ex exec of Exxon who is a personal friend of Putin, and has been awarded a medal from him! And little from his supporters to think that strange...

Instead of taking about comments, tweets, and appointments, let's talk about actual events.

What has Obama, or his Secretaries of State - of which Mrs Clinton was one - actually done regarding Putin and Russia?  When Obama took office, the Crimea was an integral part of the Ukraine.  There were no Russian operatives or weapons in eastern Ukraine.  There were no Russian troops in Syria.  Russia was not in talks with Cuba, Nicaragua, Venezuela, and Vietnam to open military bases.  They weren't in talks with those nations, along with Singapore, the Seychelles, Algeria, and Cyprus, for the Russian navy to use their ports as ports of call to service it's ships.  Russia hadn't been hacking the illegal home brew computer in the Secretary of State's barn. 

Russia had been illegally selling Iran equipment and sending experts to advise them on their nuclear weapons facility for years, and not a peep from Obama, Clinton, Kerry or the media.  Obama finally legitimized this with his disgraceful Iran non-treaty treaty, which opened the door for more of the same.

None of that under Obama, Mrs Clinton, and John Kerry was a problem for the media or the Trump haters at all. But now, suddenly, the US is in peril from Putin because Trump is going to try something other than projecting weakness and incompetence, and has appointed someone to be Secretary of State who's done business in Russia?  Can you please get a grip.

[Juan]

How dare you.  Mrs. Clinton gave the Russians a "reset" button.

[3OctaveFart]

Bernie Sanders rejected identity liberalism. He is a complete goof, but he was right about that.

Columbia University’s Mark Lilla:

"The fixation on diversity in our schools and in the press has produced a generation of liberals and progressives narcissistically unaware of conditions outside their self-defined groups, and indifferent to the task of reaching out to Americans in every walk of life."

Those proportions are accurate. That is why the Dems got their asses kicked. And it won't change until the 'sacred victim' card gets retired.