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Started by The General, February 10, 2011, 11:33:34 PM

Lilith

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What if we told Obama that some of the illegal immigrants are Russian spies?

We can't have Russian Spies coming into the country illegally after all.

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Juan

Quote from: Segundus on December 11, 2016, 07:49:13 AM
Somebody, when I posted this, mentioned Soros, but that's absurd.  That violence turns the public completely away from the issue that the initial march was about.  Why would anyone want to DO that?
I certainly don't know who is doing this, but people like Soros make their money from controversy and turmoil.   They drive a specific market down, then buy in and make huge profits.  Soros, for instance, in 1992 saw weakness in the British pound.  I don't know whether he had a part in causing the weakness, but he bought in and made more than a billion when the pound recovered. Also in the early 90s Democrats attacked pharmaceutical companies.  The Clintons sold pharmaceutical stock short and made money.

Money might well be the reason people would do that.

Quote from: Segundus on December 11, 2016, 07:49:13 AM
This has intrigued me for a long time.  It almost never fails that we see a peaceful march about some issue, the claims seem marginally reasonable, and one or two days pass after which the people in the march report bus loads of out of towners arriving and starting the violence and destruction and kicking up demands to demented proportions.  No one ever reports where these clowns come from or why the march organizers think they are necessary.  The organizers never denounce them or comment.  They must know more. 

Somebody, when I posted this, mentioned Soros, but that's absurd.  That violence turns the public completely away from the issue that the initial march was about.  Why would anyone want to DO that? 

Evidently it is a source that does NOT want issues resolved and some peace to ensue.  This is a source that wants to continue conflict in our country. 

I almost think both sides of major issues may be being manipulated to some extent.

Why is telling you Soros is behind this absurd? 

The same thing has happened when these goons were called International Solidarity, when they went by Occupy Wall St, and now under Black Lives Matter.  They also show up at the demonstrations of fellow travelers, such as Code Pink, and turn those into riots as well.  It's the same playbook, and it's nationwide.  Someone has to recruit, fund, and organize it.  It takes a great deal of money, and a decent sized staff at a central hub to organize it all.

It's not meant to draw anyone to their side, although it will attract other losers to the ''cause''.  It unfortunately pulls in other well meaning people in the communities, by cynically appealing to certain issues.  These events are meant to sow confusion and chaos, to distract attention from other issues, to break down societal order and the rule of law. 

These events are an attack on the police - they study police communication and tactics in action in dealing with riots, they attempt to goad the police into overreaction, they wish to separate police from any popular support and to further that over time by having the police become more militarized.  And of course the Left's favorite - to increase mistrust and division between races.  The cumulative effect of this group is definitely a threat to our democracy. 

Far from being an absurd idea, George Soros and his organization are the prime candidates for being behind this.  There are no other candidates. 

You seem to one of the people who tends to believe what Big Media tells them.  Since they haven't told you Soros is behind this, then it's 'absurd'.  Shouldn't we be asking why the Main Stream Fake News Media mouth pieces for the Progressives aren't the slightest bit interested in where this is coming from?  Rather than getting to the bottom of this, and answering you question, they've done the opposite - downplay the idea the violence is organized, downplay the violence itself, and advocate no criminal charges for these pukes by telling us ''it's the price of democracy'' and ''isn't it wonderful people can do this in our country and not be prosecuted for it''.  Their reaction is just more Fake News from Big Media.

CornyCrow

Quote from: Juan on December 11, 2016, 09:04:14 AM
I certainly don't know who is doing this, but people like Soros make their money from controversy and turmoil.   They drive a specific market down, then buy in and make huge profits.  Soros, for instance, in 1992 saw weakness in the British pound.  I don't know whether he had a part in causing the weakness, but he bought in and made more than a billion when the pound recovered. Also in the early 90s Democrats attacked pharmaceutical companies.  The Clintons sold pharmaceutical stock short and made money.

Money might well be the reason people would do that.
Yeah.  It's a shame that Martha Stewart was imprisoned for insider trading, since so many do it.  Did you know that Congress is exempt from prosecution for insider trading?  That's one of the reasons why people run for such positions - and leave quite wealthy. 

It's sometimes a fine line and hard to prove that you had private information about the market. 

I'm not now concerned with the stock market infor, I'm just very, VERY, interested in knowing what is behind those disruptions to peaceful demonstrations. 

Years back, when I was a kid, black people in ghettos would sometimes cry that the government was bringing drugs into their neighborhoods.  I knew that was ludicrous, because our government was totally against drugs.  Then, I saw two different instances, in the papers, with photos, of the CIA and the armed forces doing just that - bringing drugs into the US.  Then, there was that book concerning poor Gary Webb, who got killed for exposing government complicity - some think Sonny Bono's death was caused by his knowledge of this and intent to go public, too. 

I don't like mysteries, and so far I've seen no one open their mouth on this subject. 

Do you ever feel that our internal problems, as a nation, should not be so insurmountable, and that there may be manipulation going on?  I sometimes think so.  It's not so hard to do when our media has no requirement to give the opposing views. 

This thing with the bused in violent groups seems so deliberately targeted to be sure we hate each other.   

Quote from: Segundus on December 11, 2016, 11:07:18 AM
...  Then, I saw two different instances, in the papers, with photos, of the CIA and the armed forces doing just that - bringing drugs into the US...

Is there a difference between (1) members of the military and CIA smuggling drugs as individuals because they are easily available in some country they are stationed in, and they have a free ride back to the US where they don't have their baggage checked or go through customs, and (2) authorized by the military and CIA as an official covert operation?

In other words, is there a difference between you breaking some law, say shoplifting, and it being an official activity authorized by your employer?

CornyCrow

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on December 11, 2016, 11:25:31 AM
Is there a difference between (1) members of the military and CIA smuggling drugs as individuals because they are easily available in some country they are stationed in, and they have a free ride back to the US where they don't have their baggage checked or go through customs, and (2) authorized by the military and CIA as an official covert operation?

In other words, is there a difference between you breaking some law, say shoplifting, and it being an official activity authorized by your employer?
There were planes coming in with supposed American dead.  The planes crashed, leaving the caskets' contents spilling on the ground.  It was drugs and not bodies.  No, I don't believe these were just bad individuals trying to make a quick buck.  Have you read ANYTHING about Gary Webb at all?  I thought everyone knew about this by now.

Funny thing when Bush 'W' first got into office, he did not want trucks running back and forth across the Mexican border inspected any longer AND he flew the coffins of dead soldiers back in the dead of night and forbade any of the public or reporters from witnessing any part of that operation.  The press made a big stink about it, and I'm sure some members of the public wondered why it was such a big issue, but the press knew why it was such a hot topic.   

Quote from: Segundus on December 11, 2016, 11:40:24 AM
There were planes coming in with supposed American dead.  The planes crashed, leaving the caskets' contents spilling on the ground.  It was drugs and not bodies.  No, I don't believe these were just bad individuals trying to make a quick buck.  Have you read ANYTHING about Gary Webb at all?  I thought everyone knew about this by now.

Funnny thing when Bush 'W' first got into office, he did not want trucks running back and forth across the Mexican border inspected any longer AND he flew the coffins of dead soldiers back in the dead of night and forbade any of the public or reporters from witnessing any part of that operation.  The press made a big stink about it, and I'm sure some members of the public wondered why it was such a big issue, but the press knew why it was such a hot topic.

To be honest, this isn't something that interests me much.

I'd be shocked if there haven't been a few individuals in the military smuggling drugs into the country, or even a somewhat sizeable rogue operation having done so.

We have not had a single president that would risk so much for something like this though.  When Bush put the planes of returning coffins off limits to the media, it was because they were sleazily using photos of the caskets to undermine the war effort, and Bush put an end to it.

It's one thing to be against a war before it begins.  To me, once we have soldiers on the ground, we need to support them and their mission, and not try to undermine them.  Telling the enemy we are divided puts our kids more at risk, and provides incentive for the enemy to dig in.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: PB the Deplorable on December 11, 2016, 12:07:02 PM
To be honest, this isn't something that interests me much.

I'd be shocked if there haven't been a few individuals in the military smuggling drugs into the country, or even a somewhat sizeable rogue operation having done so.

We have not had a single president that would risk so much for something like this though.  When Bush put the planes of returning coffins off limits to the media, it was because they were sleazily using photos of the caskets to undermine the war effort, and Bush put an end to it.

It's one thing to be against a war before it begins.  To me, once we have soldiers on the ground, we need to support them and their mission, and not try to undermine them.  Telling the enemy we are divided puts our kids more at risk, and provides incentive for the enemy to dig in.

I usually I don't find much to criticize in your posts but you might want to look into this one a little deeper. The CIA has been dealing drugs to their own citizens since at least Vietnam, and maybe even before this, to fund their black ops. In the 80s the coke was being shipped into Mena, Arkansas (where Bill and Hill were). The pilot had a crash in Nicaragua (I think) and was found to have a business card of George "Poppy" Bush on him from Zapata Enterprises. The pilot was later murdered before he could testify, of course. It's probably still going on. I'm almost sure this is why Afghanistan was so important to us. Some of the biggest opium poppy fields are there and I remember the Army guarding them so that business as usual could continue.  ;)

starrmtn001

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WOTR

Quote from: Segundus on December 11, 2016, 07:49:13 AM
This has intrigued me for a long time.  It almost never fails that we see a peaceful march about some issue, the claims seem marginally reasonable, and one or two days pass after which the people in the march report bus loads of out of towners arriving and starting the violence and destruction and kicking up demands to demented proportions.  No one ever reports where these clowns come from or why the march organizers think they are necessary.   
Yes, and no.  I remain unconvinced that these "busloads" of people exist (and if they do that they are not there for a convention.)  I have a tough time believing that out of 300 bus drivers (mostly a blue collar, conservative occupation) that not a single one has come out and told the news that he picked up 40 protesters in Oregon and drove them to Pittsburgh while they plotted the overthrow of the president elect.  I know, I should listen to Infowars for the truth on this topic.  :D


***That said, I should probably add that I have an open mind.  It is entirely possible- but I would expect there to be more proof and first hand accounts by now.

norland2424

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 11, 2016, 12:19:53 PM
I usually I don't find much to criticize in your posts but you might want to look into this one a little deeper. The CIA has been dealing drugs to their own citizens since at least Vietnam, and maybe even before this, to fund their black ops. In the 80s the coke was being shipped into Mena, Arkansas (where Bill and Hill were). The pilot had a crash in Nicaragua (I think) and was found to have a business card of George "Poppy" Bush on him from Zapata Enterprises. The pilot was later murdered before he could testify, of course. It's probably still going on. I'm almost sure this is why Afghanistan was so important to us. Some of the biggest opium poppy fields are there and I remember the Army guarding them so that business as usual could continue.  ;)

its not the Army, its the dea , which i do agree they are just there to support drug running, the same way the dea does in mexico.
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WOTR

Quote from: ItsOver on December 11, 2016, 08:26:39 AM
All hail MV! 



Indeed,all hail MV!
(below is a sample of what happens when I search "gay pride centurion" for a picture and come up empty...)

norland2424

Quote from: WOTR on December 11, 2016, 12:55:00 PM
Indeed,all hail MV!
(below is a sample of what happens when I search "gay pride centurion" for a picture and come up empty...)


are you saying MV is the king of the " gays"  :D

WOTR

Quote from: norland2424 on December 11, 2016, 12:57:45 PM
are you saying MV is the king of the " gays"  :D
Nope.  Just wanted to share a picture taken at the last convention I attended.  :-\

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: WOTR on December 11, 2016, 12:50:30 PM
Yes, and no.  I remain unconvinced that these "busloads" of people exist (and if they do that they are not there for a convention.)  I have a tough time believing that out of 300 bus drivers (mostly a blue collar, conservative occupation) that not a single one has come out and told the news that he picked up 40 protesters in Oregon and drove them to Pittsburgh while they plotted the overthrow of the president elect.  I know, I should listen to Infowars for the truth on this topic.  :D


***That said, I should probably add that I have an open mind.  It is entirely possible- but I would expect there to be more proof and first hand accounts by now.

They probably made them sign a NDA stipulating that they couldn't discuss things with the press.  ;)

norland2424

Quote from: WOTR on December 11, 2016, 01:00:09 PM
Nope.  Just wanted to share a picture taken at the last convention I attended.  :-\

MV and WOTR making bellgab gay again  :P

Dr. MD MD

Interesting that turncoat, John McCain is now calling for an investigation into the election results because of "Russian hacking." I think some plans of his fell through when Hill didn't get selected.  ;) ;)

WOTR

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 11, 2016, 01:00:49 PM
They probably made them sign a NDA stipulating that they couldn't discuss things with the press.  ;)
So joining Alex Jones on a show is not out of the question?  ;)

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 11, 2016, 01:11:42 PM
Interesting that turncoat, John McCain is now calling for an investigation into the election results because of "Russian hacking." I think some plans of his fell through when Hill didn't get selected.  ;) ;)

That looks like Noory standing next to McLame.  I can't stand John McLame.  Lindsey and him should just go off to their love nest and never come back to the Senate.  The US would be better off without those two.

WOTR

Quote from: norland2424 on December 11, 2016, 01:02:35 PM
MV and WOTR making bellgab gay again  :P
Not just gay again.  But rather LGBTQQIAAP2S again.

Yes, I looked it up.  lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, questioning, intersex, asexual, allies, pansexual and two spirit.  Who the hell knew that there could be this many categories?  8)

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: WOTR on December 11, 2016, 01:27:22 PM
So joining Alex Jones on a show is not out of the question?  ;)

I would think. For all my calling him the new Cronkite he's not really an investigative journalist. He's more a media analyst.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: 21st Century Man on December 11, 2016, 01:32:18 PM
That looks like Noory standing next to McLame.  I can't stand John McLame.  Lindsey and him should just go off to their love nest and never come back to the Senate.  The US would be better off without those two.

Couldn't agree more.  :)

norland2424

Quote from: WOTR on December 11, 2016, 01:37:21 PM
Not just gay again.  But rather LGBTQQIAAP2S again.

Yes, I looked it up.  lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, questioning, intersex, asexual, allies, pansexual and two spirit.  Who the hell knew that there could be this many categories?  8)

i think noory knew/knows  ;D


WOTR

Quote from: norland2424 on December 11, 2016, 01:41:55 PM
i think noory knew/knows  ;D


I wonder if he got a little peck on the cheek after the photo?  Or a little cheek on his...  :o


norland2424

Quote from: WOTR on December 11, 2016, 01:46:02 PM
I wonder if he got a little peck on the cheek after the photo?  Or a little cheek on his...  :o

one thing ive never thought about until now, why is tommy the only one in " costume" ?


Quote from: norland2424 on December 11, 2016, 01:49:06 PM
one thing ive never thought about until now, why is tommy the only one in " costume" ?

It's a costume?

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