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Yorkshire pud

Quote from: pyewacket on December 09, 2016, 11:24:06 AM
You tell us- you express your feelings on the subject repeatedly.

You posted the yt video with 'fake' splashed across it, so presumably you know what is and isn't fake? And how to determine it? Are RT, Breitbart and Alex Jones the high bar? Because if they are, we might as well shut down journalism courses, persecute anyone who disagrees (and in Breitbarts case, get all whiney that Kelloggs have withdrawn their ad placements, and go on to bleat that Kelloggs 'hate' 45 million of their subscribers! If that isn't manipulation of facts, I don't know what is!), and blindly accept yt videos that some conspiracy theorist makes, but putting their particular political slant on it.

Doesn't make them factual or even fair; but at least it panders to the narrative that anything anti msn has to be a good thing. Be careful what you wish for. You might get it. Trump has already stated his desire to censor the web, and what can and can't be said on it. Sure, its unlikely he could; but he's expressed it as a wish.


Jackstar

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on December 09, 2016, 11:54:12 AM
You posted the yt video with 'fake' splashed across it, so presumably you know what is and isn't fake?

This doesn't seem like a reasonable presumption to make.


Does anyone else here think so? Let's see a show of hands.

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Jackstar on December 09, 2016, 12:14:04 PM
This doesn't seem like a reasonable presumption to make.


Does anyone else here think so? Let's see a show of hands.

I'm still waiting for you to get back to us about what happened after Hitler's bunker was discovered. Keep digging on that.

Jackstar

This is literally the first time I've heard of any such request, because typically I scroll right past all of your dull-witted, shit-spamming posts.

You're like some kind of robot sent back from the future to stifle and dumb down discussion. I don't care what you are--that's what you're like.

This is why you don't get invited to parties. I am sure of it.

pyewacket

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on December 09, 2016, 11:54:12 AM
You posted the yt video with 'fake' splashed across it, so presumably you know what is and isn't fake? And how to determine it? Are RT, Breitbart and Alex Jones the high bar? Because if they are, we might as well shut down journalism courses, persecute anyone who disagrees (and in Breitbarts case, get all whiney that Kelloggs have withdrawn their ad placements, and go on to bleat that Kelloggs 'hate' 45 million of their subscribers! If that isn't manipulation of facts, I don't know what is!), and blindly accept yt videos that some conspiracy theorist makes, but putting their particular political slant on it.

Doesn't make them factual or even fair; but at least it panders to the narrative that anything anti msn has to be a good thing. Be careful what you wish for. You might get it. Trump has already stated his desire to censor the web, and what can and can't be said on it. Sure, its unlikely he could; but he's expressed it as a wish.

Give me 2 or 3 sources that you trust and I will give them a listen.

You are the first to jump on others and tell them how wrong and misguided they are, but I don't remember you posting anything that tells us what you believe to be true or the 'gold standard' of sources you use. I may have missed it over the many pages here. I'm curious how anyone can know for certain, so I'll look to you since you have assumed the air of authority on the subject and scold all the rest of us without fail.





   

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Jackstar on December 09, 2016, 12:22:41 PM
This is literally the first time I've heard of any such request, because typically I scroll right past all of your dull-witted, shit-spamming posts.

You're like some kind of robot sent back from the future to stifle and dumb down discussion. I don't care what you are--that's what you're like.

This is why you don't get invited to parties. I am sure of it.

To paraphrase the late great Groucho Marx; I wouldn't want to be at a party where someone like me might be invited.

As for the rest, you need to try harder. Hurdles are there to be overcome.


pyewacket

Quote from: Jackstar on December 09, 2016, 12:14:04 PM
Does anyone else here think so? Let's see a show of hands.

Jacks, the same question has been asked before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLx0i1vuBWs

Even 'FAKE' can get the point across.  ;)

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: pyewacket on December 09, 2016, 12:32:00 PM
Give me 2 or 3 sources that you trust and I will give them a listen.

You are the first to jump on others and tell them how wrong and misguided they are, but I don't remember you posting anything that tells us what you believe to be true or the 'gold standard' of sources you use. I may have missed it over the many pages here. I'm curious how anyone can know for certain, so I'll look to you since you have assumed the air of authority on the subject and scold all the rest of us without fail.

I don't believe there is a 'gold' standard. All news outlets have their flaws, some msn have an agenda; be it commercially, politically driven or the whim of the proprieter breathing on the editor (in the case of newspapers). Real journalists though go out and actually cover an event, chase a story, dig out the facts. They don't sit in pseudo TV studios and spout stuff they copied and pasted from conspiracy theory websites and present it as truth.

Heard of this man? Fergal Keane: embedded news reporter in Yemen. Here is raw unadulterated reporting, not some twat making shit up to denegrate another politician. He has no compunction in telling it how it is.


Inside Yemen: Saudi air strikes and Britain's role
  www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-38257109


Compare and contrast with such as Alex Jones. Who wouldn't know what journalism was if he tried; oh, and for all his bleating about the suppression of truth, has a very heavily moderated forum. Along the lines of Senda: doesn't like it, delete it.

Jackstar

Quoteembedded news reporter in Yemen.





QuoteHere is raw unadulterated reporting





Dr. MD MD

Quote from: brigâ,,¢Â©2015 on December 09, 2016, 07:42:27 AM
I know this is a little off thread topic, but I'm very upset about this.
Does anyone find it ironic that Hillary is on the MSM going on about "Fake News", while ironically, they interpret the law to allow MSM to lie?

http://projectcensored.org/11-the-media-can-legally-lie/

Yeah, it's ironic. The bitch refuses to go away. Her, Soros, Michael Moore should all be thrown in Mel's pit.  ;)

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Juan on December 09, 2016, 09:32:52 AM
How can an expectation of critical thinking protocols here be serious?

Nothing pud asks is serious. He's a British troll.  ;)



Dr. MD MD

Quote from: pyewacket on December 09, 2016, 11:11:11 AM
You expressed yourself well and clearly, Brig. Many of us feel the same way. What some people have forgotten is that we need to have a FREE press if we are to remain a free country.

If we are not careful we will become more like the old Soviet Union. I remember relatives making this joke-

“There is no pravda in Izvestia, and no izvestia in Pravda.”
(’There is no truth in news, and no news in truth.")

The Soviet Union had two important propaganda newspapers. Pravda ("truth") was the communist party newspaper and was published between 1912 and 1991. Izvestia ("news") was the government newspaper and was published between 1917 and 1991.

A little something from one of those 'forbidden' sources:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyS3Ghevf2I

This has been the plan all along.  ;)

ItsOver

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 09, 2016, 01:08:50 PM
DIE, BITCH, DIE!!!  >:( ;D
You may have to drive a stake through it's heart.  Good luck finding it. ;)

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Jackstar on December 09, 2016, 12:14:04 PM
This doesn't seem like a reasonable presumption to make.


Does anyone else here think so? Let's see a show of hands.

You shouldn't expect reason with pud. It's all propaganda with him. Now get in line, fucker!  >:(

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on December 09, 2016, 12:34:58 PM
To paraphrase the late great Groucho Marx; I wouldn't want to be at a party where someone like me might be invited.

As for the rest, you need to try harder. Hurdles are there to be overcome.

In other words, I got nothing.  :D

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 09, 2016, 01:14:28 PM
You shouldn't expect reason with pud. It's all propaganda with him. Now get in line, fucker!  >:(

You still pleading to be liked to indirectly get back in the top right corner? Relax, it will happen.  :D

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on December 09, 2016, 12:48:50 PM
I don't believe there is a 'gold' standard. All news outlets have their flaws, some msn have an agenda; be it commercially, politically driven or the whim of the proprieter breathing on the editor (in the case of newspapers). Real journalists though go out and actually cover an event, chase a story, dig out the facts. They don't sit in pseudo TV studios and spout stuff they copied and pasted from conspiracy theory websites and present it as truth.

Heard of this man? Fergal Keane: embedded news reporter in Yemen. Here is raw unadulterated reporting, not some twat making shit up to denegrate another politician. He has no compunction in telling it how it is.


Inside Yemen: Saudi air strikes and Britain's role
  www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-38257109


Compare and contrast with such as Alex Jones. Who wouldn't know what journalism was if he tried; oh, and for all his bleating about the suppression of truth, has a very heavily moderated forum. Along the lines of Senda: doesn't like it, delete it.

He only ever quotes the BBC. It's all the queen will let him quote.  :D

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on December 09, 2016, 01:17:22 PM
You still pleading to be liked to indirectly get back in the top right corner? Relax, it will happen.  :D

Did I make top right? No one ever told me.  ???

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 09, 2016, 01:17:24 PM
He only ever quotes the BBC. It's all the queen will let him quote.  :D

Wow!! You have taken a hit today, your typing fingers are in turbo mode!  :)

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 09, 2016, 01:18:31 PM
Did I make top right? No one ever told me.  ???

Well no; that's not going to happen because so far you haven't said anything worth putting there. But yesterday a reference to you was put up there. I'm sure you didn't miss it!  ;D


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on December 09, 2016, 01:21:47 PM
Well no; that's not going to happen because so far you haven't said anything worth putting there. But yesterday a reference to you was put up there. I'm sure you didn't miss it!  ;D

If you say so. I'm still not sure what you're talking about though. That's nothing new though.  :D



Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 09, 2016, 01:26:54 PM
If you say so. I'm still not sure what you're talking about though. That's nothing new though.  :D

Oh, I'm sure you do son. As did everyone else who read it.  ;D

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on December 09, 2016, 01:40:22 PM
Oh, I'm sure you do son. As did everyone else who read it.  ;D

You're sure of lots of things that aren't true. Why should this be any different?  :D

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on December 09, 2016, 01:44:36 PM
You're sure of lots of things that aren't true. Why should this be any different?  :D

What have you decided isn't true?

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