Started by The General, February 11, 2011, 01:33:34 AM
Quote from: nooryisawesome on January 13, 2016, 09:30:28 AMGood eye. None the less the media is reporting it. The media has a way to spin things and voters have a herd like mentality, so if they think someone is rising in the polls they are more likely to vote for them.
Quote from: SredniVashtar on January 13, 2016, 09:09:30 AMHe was the boss's son; he had it handed to him on a silver platter, just like his dad inherited the title from his own father. In that climate of paranoia and nepotism I think almost anyone could rule, as long as they weren't a total drooling moron.
Quote from: nooryisawesome on January 13, 2016, 07:48:43 AMDont count out Bush. he rising in the polls. the media loves a comeback.
Quote from: VoteQuimby on January 13, 2016, 11:32:28 AMI remember reading an article in Psychology Today about North Korea. How they have to stay in a state of chaos and fear at all times otherwise the regime would collapse. Compound that with technology creeping into North Korea and it's incredible Fat Kim has had such a seamless transition and dictatorship.
Quote from: MV on January 13, 2016, 02:30:19 PMwww.youtube.com/watch?v=xFJVLsbGrNc
Quote from: VoteQuimby on January 13, 2016, 11:32:28 AMFat Kim is a brilliant dictator. He had a problem who from all accounts was a nice guy and wanted to bring peace to the region which got him exiled by the family. There's a story of the two brothers playing a basketball game against one another with their dictator father watching. The brother was the better player but he played with sportsmanship and thanked each of his team's players. Fat Kim for domineering and was harsh with him team. His father remarked Fat Kim was much more like him and much more respectable because Fat Kim was a prick and the brother was too weak.
Quote from: VtaGeezer on January 15, 2016, 10:32:57 AMTrump really has Raphael rattled with the birther charge. Best election entertainment yet. Cruz is trying to obfuscate it by talking about citizenship vs. the constitutional Presidential reqts., or Romney Sr.'s Mexican birth, ignoring that Geo. Romney was never close to being the nominee. I think DT has him in a box. What else could the framers have meant by "natural born"? Maybe no caesarians allowed?? And he's 100% correct that who ever would run against Nominee Cruz would take it to the SC, who've never ruled on the subject. Love seeing the worm squirm.
Quote from: MV on January 15, 2016, 11:27:47 AMi was sooo annoyed last night listening to cruz's "new york values" bullshit. cruz and his goldman sachs wife aren't interested in media and money? he's attempting to pander to a specific group of people who've probably never left the county they live in, let alone the state they live in. i think most people find it to be grating. cruz can't win a general election. america doesn't want to elect a televangelist.
Quote from: VtaGeezer on January 15, 2016, 12:39:19 PMCruz is the biggest, phoniest opportunist running for Pres in memory. He even looks like Joe McCarthy. I'm repulsed by his smarmy, oily manner and can't wait to see him squished for the grub he is. It looks like his popularity in Tea Party TX is fading too.
Quote from: 46blitz on January 16, 2016, 01:40:39 AMTrump is a fraud and very afraid of Cruz.
Quote from: MV on January 16, 2016, 01:41:54 AMDisagree.
Quote from: onan on January 16, 2016, 01:59:19 AM...and perhaps not bright enough...
Quote from: MV on January 16, 2016, 03:12:14 AMi see no evidence of that.
Quote from: onan on January 16, 2016, 07:24:57 AMInstead of bright enough, perhaps lack of insight, would have been more accurate. Building a wall and making Mexico pay for it, gives me all kinds of doubt about his credibility. Maybe it does warm the cockles of 20% of the electorate, it is still stupid.
Quote from: GravitySucks on January 16, 2016, 09:52:04 AMHe isn't expecting them to write us a check. All we have to do is introduce tariffs or stop sending them domestic aid. Or maybe tax all financial transactions of illegals transferring money back to Mexico. Or make them take the Cleveland Browns as an NFL franchise. Or charge a toll for entry (and exit) at border crossings. There's lots of ways.
QuoteThe U.S. government would have to pay to maintain the wall, which could cost as much as $750 million a year, according to an analysis conducted by Politico. And then if it wanted to man it with personnel, that would be an additional cost â€" border patrol has an operating budget of $1.4 billion for 21,000 agents.
Quote from: onan on January 16, 2016, 10:47:14 AMI get that. I doubt it, but I get that. The estimated cost to build the wall is about 16 million dollars a mile. The border is almost 2000 miles in length. The cost to maintain? www.cnbc.com/2015/10/09/this-is-what-trumps-border-wall-could-cost-us.html
Quote from: GravitySucks on January 16, 2016, 12:01:27 PMThe cost to maintain social services for illegal immigration and the harm it is doing to our country???We are either a nation of laws and a country of borders or we aren't. If we arent' we will be a shithole third world country. Everybody's dumping ground. It might not happen in mine and yours lifetime, but it will happen. Isreal has a pretty good fence. Saudi Arabia is building a fairly substantial wall. Canada controls their immigration. Neither of us could move to Mexico unless we could prove we had sustainable income. Shit, even Honduras has that requirement. Last time I checked which was about 2007, I would have had to prove that I had an annual income of $37k to be allowed to relocate to Roatan. It has been the law of the land for several years that we will have a wall/fence on the border. Every politician that has voted against funding that wall should have been impeached and their asses thrown in jail.
Quote from: onan on January 16, 2016, 12:13:04 PMI'm not debating immigration, nor the Secure Fence Act, just the bombastic response Trump brought to the discussion. We do have problems to solve. I don't think Trump is the guy to do it.