President Donald J. Trump

[onan]

A conspiracy theory from the 60s gets more attention that the crimes of the most prominent political family in America in your opinion and you're arguing that's a good thing?

This is like watching Republicans trying to justify Bush 2004.

I'm saying your constant shit throwing is working against you. Is it a good thing? absolutely not, but as I have said before much of the attack and many that stand with you are irrational.

[SciFiAuthor]

The Democratic Presidential Primary was not rigged, Dunning Kruger.

The basic concept of a superdelegate is rigging. Open, clear, obvious rigging of a system.

[SciFiAuthor]

Here is the deal, Bill Clinton won the presidency and right wing zealots could not deal with that fact. Mud, no, shit slinging started and has continued for more than two decades. Most of the shit was delusional at best. But at first it did have some ability to stick. The problem however was that after a while the stench started to accumulate with those throwing it, and now you guys stink bad enough that your credibility only carries weight in the furthest regions of nutsville.

The driver killed Kennedy gets more of an ear than Clinton Cash.

But please continue on, your party is a clown show and that responsibility falls completely at your feet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MRenc-zoCU

[CornyCrow]

Trump obviously hates women.  I wonder what his mother could have done to him to poison his mind so?   

[onan]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MRenc-zoCU

Thanks for the response. What an ugly story. Having worked with many rape victims, the story has many points similar to other rape stories. I will not be the guy to refute this one. Nor will I attempt a comparison to Trump.

All that being said, here we are. Simply put, Hillary or Donald, which? Lucky us. Your side has spent years and millions of dollars on what in all honesty has become a cottage industry of hate for the Clintons. It obviously has worked well.

The position seems to be it would be better to have a disinhibited, poorly controlled, arrogant, self aggrandized-shoot-from-the-hip non-statesman, who is not liked by most of his peers as the president. It doesn't look like that will happen and I wonder why that is?

[theONE]

So there is 4 options for America.

A. Donald Trump
B. Hillary Clinton
C. Donald Trump is replaced as a candidate
D. NO ELECTIONS / martial law -Obama stays!

[albrecht]

Nigel Farage: Donald Trump 'Not Running to Be Pope--He's Running For President'.  10.8.16.


https://youtu.be/GUFNJNtbkR8

I wish he could run here. He is hilarious and right on many issues, not all but many. But IF Trump were running for Pope it wouldn't be that type of groping talked about!

ps: I still stand by my initial concerns early on in postings that Trump is some kind of Billary plant, or at least initially was, and maybe due to his ego, decided "hey" I can actually beat her? Or maybe he still is? They share many of the same friends, he has given their shady foundations/campaigns money, and seem to share some sexual harassment proclivities- at least alleged in Trump's case. But given our two choices I will still vote for Trump, even if he couldn't accomplish half of what he says. But, obviously, I would vote for almost anyone other than Hillary with all of her corruption and her desire to kill the country by opening the borders even more and importing more possible terrorists and ceding our sovereignty to unelected international trade boards and bodies. Not to mention the gun grab, more regulations, and increase in Federal power, resulting in less democracy and local control, for the laws/regulations that she hasn't given away to international bodies and trade groups.

[CornyCrow]

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/11/us/politics/hillary-clinton-aliens.html

What's the orange man's take on this?  Another Chinese conspiracy, like global warming?

[SciFiAuthor]

Thanks for the response. What an ugly story. Having worked with many rape victims, the story has many points similar to other rape stories. I will not be the guy to refute this one. Nor will I attempt a comparison to Trump.

See, that's the thing. The ugliness on the Clinton side is pretty bad. What they get isn't entirely undeserved though I do agree some of it was over the top.

The position seems to be it would be better to have a disinhibited, poorly controlled, arrogant, self aggrandized-shoot-from-the-hip non-statesman, who is not liked by most of his peers as the president. It doesn't look like that will happen and I wonder why that is?

The position is that polished, controlled, presented fronts that conceal ugliness no longer cut the mustard with a lot of people. If any one of the other Republican political candidates had gone off the cuff and spoke like normal humans speak, Trump would have went nowhere. They did not, they kept up the cardboard cut out polish and it hurt them. Get ready for it, the age of reality politics has arrived for better or worse.

[onan]

See, that's the thing. The ugliness on the Clinton side is pretty bad. What they get isn't entirely undeserved though I do agree some of it was over the top.

The position is that polished, controlled, presented fronts that conceal ugliness no longer cut the mustard with a lot of people. If any one of the other Republican political candidates had gone off the cuff and spoke like normal humans speak, Trump would have went nowhere. They did not, they kept up the cardboard cut out polish and it hurt them. Get ready for it, the age of reality politics has arrived for better or worse.

I am not for jerry springer politics. But let's be fair, some topics are quite complicated and that turns many off and in response they turn to talking heads that are more interested in their agenda then the true issue at hand.

For instance the wikileaks drop of Hillary's "dream of open borders and..." I do not find that in any way damning. What is wrong with everyone having a safe and nurturing environment? After all it is a dream that should inspire working for the good of all.

Instead, the message seems to be if we do this then all hell will break lose. When no policy is mentioned in the dream statement... not one policy mentioned.

[theONE]

So there is 4 options for America.

A. Donald Trump
B. Hillary Clinton
C. Donald Trump is replaced as a candidate
D. NO ELECTIONS / martial law -Obama stays!

option E. Hillary's health becomes an issue again or some legal-criminal facts will surface
and she gets replaced as a candidate

[FightTheFuture]

Get ready for it, the age of reality politics has arrived for better or worse.

People still don`t want an uneducated, adulterous pig to represent them.

[Yorkshire pud]

I wish he could run here.

Really? He runs away when he wins what it was he wanted to happen. But, you're welcome to him if you want him. But being forwarned is forearmed; he's a fairweather rabble rouser.

[theONE]

I can't believe that some Americans are so butt hurt about Presidential candidate talking about groping women.
Like there are no more urgent issues that Americans are faced with, hahaha

But throughout of history in politics pussy was always very influential

[CornyCrow]

People still don`t want an uneducated, adulterous pig to represent them.

Yes.  He keeps talking about the great schools he went to, but by the way he speaks and thinks, I can't imagine how he graduated.  His father must have donated a lot of money to those schools.  His crude manners, values, and speech remind me of some ignorant high school drop out.  It's hard to believe that so many people want his quality of person to represent them to the rest of the world.  He's an embarrassment to America. Certainly not our finest.   

[albrecht]

Really? He runs away when he wins what it was he wanted to happen. But, you're welcome to him if you want him. But being forwarned is forearmed; he's a fairweather rabble rouser.

I heard there was some kind of UKIP dust-up the other day in the European Parliament but don't know the details. One candidate punched another or something? I'll trade with you: he can move here and we will send you Billary and even Trump (though his decorating style is more French-king, not English-king style but he does enjoy owning real estate like your royals.) Nigel wouldn't be able to hold Executive Office here but could make some good speeches and cause some laughs.

[Yorkshire pud]

I can't believe that some Americans are so butt hurt about Presidential candidate talking about groping women.
Like there are no more urgent issues that Americans are faced with, hahaha

But throughout of history in politics pussy was always very influential

We both know you're winding things up; but just on the off chance you're not, how would your female relatives feel if the introduction from such as Trump was him reaching down to feel their genitals or inappropriately touch them elsewhere? What would you do?

[Yorkshire pud]

I heard there was some kind of UKIP dust-up the other day in the European Parliament but don't know the details. One candidate punched another or something?

Pretty much. Details are as you'd expect a bit vague, but the gist of it, is the bloke who was admitted to hospital had announced he was going to defect to the Conservative party. Things got heated and he asked the other bloke to 'go outside to settle things'; who is the defence spokesman and ex RAF and ex Army (wrong person to pick on?)...anyway, the defense spokesman denies hitting the bloke on the floor who had two seizures! Anyones guess what really happened.

I'll trade with you: he can move here and we will send you Billary and even Trump (though his decorating style is more French-king, not English-king style but he does enjoy owning real estate like your royals.) Nigel wouldn't be able to hold Executive Office here but could make some good speeches and cause some laughs.

Look, can we think about it? Because there might be an opening to let Trump and Clinton be a full size punch and judy show with a baying crowd in the Jeremy Kyle vein.

[SciFiAuthor]

I am not for jerry springer politics. But let's be fair, some topics are quite complicated and that turns many off and in response they turn to talking heads that are more interested in their agenda then the true issue at hand.

I'm for it. The thing is, the vast majority of politicians are professional bullshit artists. That's literally what that job is. The better the bullshit artist, the more electable they are. We're conditioned to see that as normal, but it's not. And what we're seeing now is the cracks in that former façade system beginning to form. This will eventually serve to force out riff-raff like the Clintons and Trump and bring in people that actually have respectable pasts that stand up to scrutiny. Transparency brings honesty.

For instance the wikileaks drop of Hillary's "dream of open borders and..." I do not find that in any way damning. What is wrong with everyone having a safe and nurturing environment? After all it is a dream that should inspire working for the good of all.

Because it's foolish misguided multicultural nonsense. There are cultures in this world that are profoundly misguided, archaic, and incompatible with modern western civilization. Letting them in, along with their cultural problems, is irreversible and not conducive to a safe and nurturing environment for anyone. Until we establish a one world culture borders are very good things for all. Once everyone is on the same page, which is happening slowly but surely, then we can talk about erasing borders. But as it stands now, it's just stupidity.

Instead, the message seems to be if we do this then all hell will break lose. When no policy is mentioned in the dream statement... not one policy mentioned.

Yeah, but dreams and ideology lead to policy. Given that the only reason she holds it is because she knows that such immigration would ultimately lead to a one-party system, I find it scary as hell. One party systems are bad. The Democratic Party needs to start behaving ethically and stop thinking about importing voting blocs and start listening to women like this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AhSQLmfbQ6Y

[SciFiAuthor]

People still don`t want an uneducated, adulterous pig to represent them.

Are you referring to Trump or Bill Clinton? Just sayin'.

[Donald Noory]

Are you referring to Trump or Bill Clinton? Just sayin'.

Bill Clinton isn't running for president, dumbass. Just sayin'.

[Yorkshire pud]

There are cultures in this world that are profoundly misguided, archaic, and incompatible with modern western civilization.

Yeah, but America will grow up someday. It will.

[SciFiAuthor]

Bill Clinton isn't running for president, dumbass. Just sayin'.

Yeah, which is why I said it. People fell for this shit once already, why it suddenly matters now is anyone's guess. 

[theONE]

We both know you're winding things up; but just on the off chance you're not, how would your female relatives feel if the introduction from such as Trump was him reaching down to feel their genitals or inappropriately touch them elsewhere? What would you do?

I absolutely not winding things up.
People are omitting the fact that many=many women are using their sexuality to "get things in life"
They dress sexy provocative, they send subtle erotic signals to influential rich men.
Women also talk dirty about men, about men's penises /man's "package"/,how they would like to hold them,suck on them.
Many women in order to "get things in life" make them self's available for men to 'grab their pussy'.
So let's don't be hypocritical here and feel that what Donald Trump said about 'pussy grabbing' is so worthy of eliminating him from Presidential run.

Only lunatics could conceive that option...

[SciFiAuthor]

Yeah, but America will grow up someday. It will.

No, it will just become a multicultural shithole like Labour made Britain into when they were importing voters.

[Yorkshire pud]

I absolutely not winding things up.
People are omitting the fact that many=many women are using their sexuality to "get things in life"
They dress sexy provocative, they send subtle erotic signals to influential rich men.
Women also talk dirty about men, about men's penises /man's "package"/,how they would like to hold them,suck on them.
Many women in order to "get things in life" make them self's available for men to 'grab their pussy'.
So let's don't be hypocritical here and feel that what Donald Trump said about 'pussy grabbing' is so worthy of eliminating him from Presidential run.

Only lunatics could conceive that option...

Hmmm, but what of the women that Trump thinks it okay to sexually assault without any invitation? You're okay with that? They're 'asking for it'? Yeah?

[Yorkshire pud]

No, it will just become a multicultural shithole like Labour made Britain into when they were importing voters.

Lol...we don't have Trump as a potential political leader. We win.

[albrecht]

Pretty much. Details are as you'd expect a bit vague, but the gist of it, is the bloke who was admitted to hospital had announced he was going to defect to the Conservative party. Things got heated and he asked the other bloke to 'go outside to settle things'; who is the defence spokesman and ex RAF and ex Army (wrong person to pick on?)...anyway, the defense spokesman denies hitting the bloke on the floor who had two seizures! Anyones guess what really happened.

Look, can we think about it? Because there might be an opening to let Trump and Clinton be a full size punch and judy show with a baying crowd in the Jeremy Kyle vein.

Ha. Do other countries have these types of shows or is this JerrySpringer/JeremyKyle crap some defect in Anglo-American societies? Btw, I'll bet Punch and Judy is protested against or even banned these days (sexism, spousal abuse, child abuse, cultural stereotyping, etc etc etc.)
ps: I will sweeten the deal and send you our beer, like Budlight, along with Billary and Trump and you send me Nigel and your beers. I will send you our Muslims and illegal alien Hispanics also since you're so accommodating.

[Donald Noory]

No, it will just become a multicultural shithole like Labour made Britain into when they were importing voters.

[theONE]

Hmmm, but what of the women that Trump thinks it okay to sexually assault without any invitation? You're okay with that? They're 'asking for it'? Yeah?

When and where did Trump said exactly that..?
Can you provide quotes please.
Thanks