John B. Wells

[Morgus]

I haven't listened to Friday's show.  What were people calling in with?

a few callers tried to get into partisan politics rants and Knapp wouldn't get into that at all.
also frequent annoying caller known as "Suliman" got past the call screeners using the name "Charles" but Knapp figured out who it was after a couple minutes with him...

[VtaGeezer]

One of the problems with Wells is that the fallout from his show bleeds into other shows...

I'm convinced Wells crank-right lurch is simply Phase II in the Premiere Radio plan to convert C2C into a late night far-right talk haven for the stuff too extreme for even Beck or Savage.  Phase I was mandating that Noory seed Hour 1 heavily with heavy-duty conservatives "interpreting" news items without challenge to attract conservative hardliners to audience.  I think Noory's smarmy C2C is hemorrhaging long-time C2C listeners. The old "weird and curious " format is clearly on life support, and PR is itching to pull the plug on Mother George as soon as ratings show the affiliates that they've replaced rolled the C2C audience over.

[Yorkshire pud]

I know it's 'old news'; but I wonder (knowing the answer) if Wells' will revisit Angelina Jolie's recent surgery after his disgusting conspiracy rant.


Her auntie has just died from....breast cancer.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-22677972

[Gay]

John B. Wells has a great radio voice, when I first heard him it reminded me of Art who I really miss. But Wells is just too conservative for me. I do not tune into Coast to Coast to hear religious right wing propaganda which Wells spews on a regular basis. He actually said that FOX news was the most accurate and trustworthy of the major news organizations. Everyone knows all of the major news channels are full of it, but FOX is by far the worst. Say what you will about Noory but at least he is smart enough to keep the political stuff out of most of the topics. My favorite host now is George Knapp, but no one will ever replace the great Art Bell.

John B Wells rips his "news" stories directly from the Drudge Report.  Try it next Saturday - have Drudgereport.com open while he starts the show and you'll see him verbatim reading the headlines

[PB the Deplorable]

John B Wells rips his "news" stories directly from the Drudge Report...

While the Snorge is more of a World Net Daily guy. 

[VtaGeezer]

While the Snorge is more of a World Net Daily guy.

Both Noory and Wells spend their days in narcissistic glory primping and listening adoringly to last night's taping.  The Premrad staff's biggest job is prepping a daily program script, especially for Hour 1, and collecting/editing audio segments on the most negative daily news items from C2C's rightwinger bullpen like Corsi and Shedlock for Noory "speak" with that night.  Wells doesn't need the crutch of outside punditry to pronounce all bad news as the sure sign of the NWO's heel on the throat of white America.

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

What's the deal when Wells just reads a bunch of headlines and no story?  He'll rattle off 5 or 6 headlines as if he's scanning the web and seeing them for the first time, maybe adding 'that's interesting' in between.  Finally he'll find one he likes and go into a bit more detail.  I might as well go to my parent's house and listen to my father grumbling while he reads the paper.  I can't keep up with no context.  It just seems to accentuate his whole disorganized disjointed narrative.

Meanwhile a major news story can break a couple hours before airtime which is relevant to the show, and Noory will have no clue.  Like the time they were talking about doomsday scenarios and never mentioned that North Korea had just tested a nuclear weapon that day -- at a time when George couldn't stop talking about North Korea. 

I'm not sure which approach is worse.

[Nebraska888]

I totally couldnt hang w wells last night.... any of the financial guests just put me to sleep or send me to the Art stream

No #$#!@$!@       I can not take one more John B. Wells program.  I am FED UP with his conspiracies, cover-ups, and grab yer' guns, boys programs.   ENOUGH, ENOUGH, ENOUGH!   BORING AS HELL.

[Nebraska888]

I had it on for about 15 minutes and turned it off. It was so bad that I just could not listen. I think Knapp is the best host now. The show is one whacko, right wing show. I cannot tolerate this any longer. Wells was not this way when he first came abourd the C2C show.

AMEN!   

[awake]

John B Wells rips his "news" stories directly from the Drudge Report.  Try it next Saturday - have Drudgereport.com open while he starts the show and you'll see him verbatim reading the headlines

Thanks for this nugget.  I believed that Lurch (forgive the ad hominem) was taking his talking points directly from odious sites such as drudge.  But since I record and then listen later I've never known where to check for his sources of mis-information.  I have rarely heard him cite a source but I will start looking at the Drudge site, thanks. 


I firmly believe that the new site http://c2cwatch.wordpress.com/ will need to know the sources used by Noory et al. if we stand any chance of refuting the most outrageous claims made on coast and that is my personal goal.  Thanks again to astroguy for getting the site rolling.

[Abby Normal]

No #$#!@$!@       I can not take one more John B. Wells program.  I am FED UP with his conspiracies, cover-ups, and grab yer' guns, boys programs.   ENOUGH, ENOUGH, ENOUGH!   BORING AS HELL.

His family must be embarrassed.

[MV/Liberace!]

He is extremist right. But I don't think of that when I listen to him, I think burned out and incompetent.  Probably arrogant too. Enough that he couldn't help resist viewing coastgab and chiming in to his own defense.

did wells post on coastgab?

[MV/Liberace!]

Oh, yeah.  I quit listening to Wells when he went apeshit, screaming that no children really died at Sandy Hook. A real shame, 'cause I used to like his voice.  Now it just makes my skin crawl.

did that mother fucker really say that?

[awake]

Yeah he did, he's been going down that "they" are coming for you stuff for awhile.  I think the guy lives on infowars as Alex Jones was the only one really pushing the Sandy Hook was a false flag hokum. 

[GeorgieForPresident2216]

did that mother fucker really say that?

Maybe I wasn't listening closely enough, but I only heard the guest say it.  Wells didn't challenge him.  A caller phoned about it later and Wells said something like he wasn't there and couldn't verify either way.  Last time Wells was on he mentioned to his guest that a previous guest (sorry I forget the name) had claimed Sandyhook didn't happen.  Then he said something along the lines of "well, what can you say when someone believes that?"

Please correct me if I misheard.

[Morgus]

did that mother fucker really say that?

not Wells, but one of his guests said it on his Friday fill-in show.
but last Sat Wells commented on the guest's statement and disavowed it...

[MV/Liberace!]

not Wells, but one of his guests said it on his Friday fill-in show.
but last Sat Wells commented on the guest's statement and disavowed it...

good.  i was hoping the host of a nationally syndicated radio show wasn't saying that.  i have no time for anyone who believes no kids were shot.

[Treading Water]

good.  i was hoping the host of a nationally syndicated radio show wasn't saying that.  i have no time for anyone who believes no kids were shot.

If I was wrong about that I apologize. I am so sure it was Wells, because he is usually soooo very careful to walk up to the line and not cross over.  I remember being shocked and appalled that he would actually say something like that.
I'm going to spend this weekend trying to find that program. I don't want to turn out to be a bigger asshole than Johnny B.

[awake]

I listened to the show again last night and to my mind he conveyed his opinion that Sandy Hook was likely a false flag operation, he again twice mention Alex Jones & InfoWars during the show, and that he didn't know if anyone died during the event.  I am going to do a post of the timeline of how the subject came up during the show, and how it progressed and who said what. 


Briefly though, it was JBW brought up sandy hook in a question to the guest after a caller had asked about the assassination of Osama Bin Laden.  The guest stated that the raid was complete bullshit and fake.  After that comment by the guest Wells asked about sandy hook.  Questions and comments aren't asked in a vacuum, consider that the guest had just stated that Osama didn't die in the assault on the compound and that it was all stage craft; Wells next question is about Sandy Hook (and a couple other conspiracy favorites).  Callers that hour and into the next hour tried at least three times to get Wells to reverse himself but he simply wouldn't. 


As I said, I'll go through and list at which hour and what time the topic came up and the progression from that point if anyone has any doubt that JBW thinks that and has stated that Sandy Hook was a false flag operation in which he will not say if ANY kids were killed.  He stated clearly, and not for the first time, that he thinks it was done so the gov could take away guns, which I think is really sick.

[SR-71]

I can't stand John be full of crap Wells or George" I wreaking C2C" Noory. When i do listen to c2c, George Knapp and/or Ian Punnett is on.

[Abby Normal]

He stated clearly, and not for the first time, that he thinks it was done so the gov could take away guns, which I think is really sick.

They're using unspeakable tragedies to grind out profits for Premiere.  They're sick, the whole lot of them.

[RedMichael]

Per wikipedia "False flagdescribes covert military or paramilitary operations  designed to deceive in such a way that the operations appear as though they are being carried out by other entities, groups or nations than those who actually planned and executed them. Operations carried during peace-time by civilian organisations, as well as covert government agencies, may by extension be called false flag operations if they seek to hide the real organisation behind an operation."

So, we can break that down into three parts.

A false flag operation requires three things. The party performing the act, the act being performed, and the party behind the whole thing but remaining hidden. The party performing the act is supposed to be an unconnected front.

There was only one act and that was mass murder. So from my understanding and very limited research, it can not be a false flag unless one acknowledges the murders did happen and acknowledge that the shooter was actually working for the government.

If someone claims no one was killed (ie: the government made it look like people were killed), it wasn't a false flag, it becomes something else.

If someone claims the shooter was a covert government agent and no one was killed, it is still not a false flag operation.

We can say it is splitting hairs but it really isn't. You can't call it a false flag operation without saying the gunner was a government agent and kids were actually killed.


I only point this out because

1) False flag operation - is yet another overused bullshit word that meant something at one time but is now thrown about.

2) The people using it don't realize what it really means, making themselves look foolish. You can't say "Sandyhook was a false flag operation, no one got killed." It is literally an oxymoron.

You can say it was all staged, it was a huge government conspiracy, etc etc etc. But don't call it a false flag if you don't want to admit anyone was killed or there wasn't a killer. There is no other act committed at SH where one party got the blamed, and another is believed to be behind it all.

[b_dubb]

I've given up on Coast and what you all are saying just confirms that was a good decision. I think it is disgusting that Wells and Noory are exploiting gun tragedies to line their pockets. The lunatic fringe has a radio show because of these ghouls

[Nebraska888]

I just checked out the next week for Coast.......this Saturday, John Wells is doing, what could be.....AN INTERESTING PROGRAM!!!!!   

[VtaGeezer]

If I was wrong about that I apologize. I am so sure it was Wells, because he is usually soooo very careful to walk up to the line and not cross over.  I remember being shocked and appalled that he would actually say something like that.
I'm going to spend this weekend trying to find that program. I don't want to turn out to be a bigger asshole than Johnny B.

To my mind, letting a caller make such a malevolent statement and not vigorously rejecting as extremism taken to a moronic and dangerous level is the same as saying it.  Its only a matter of time before Wells and his ilk drive some idiot(s) over the edge to violence. The ricin mailer in the news didn't get his paranoia from the Tooth Fairy, and is the just tip of the iceberg.  

[Juan]

This exploitation is not new on Coast - it's been a feature since sNoory took over.  Maybe you didn't notice all the 9/11 Truther shows and all the shows that blamed Bush for various nefarious schemes, Katrina, etc. 

I, too, am sick of politics by the time Coast comes on.  I want to hear some fantastic story told well enough to be somewhat believable.

[Abby Normal]

To my mind, letting a caller make such a malevolent statement and not vigorously rejecting as extremism taken to a moronic and dangerous level is the same as saying it.  Its only a matter of time before Wells and his ilk drive some idiot(s) over the edge to violence. The ricin mailer in the news didn't get his paranoia from the Tooth Fairy, and is the just tip of the iceberg.  

Exactly.  Conspiracy theorists, including the paranoid variety, practically dominate the "comments" section of MailOnline.com.  So just imagine how many deranged souls are among the listeners to C2C which is broadcast on more than 500 radio stations.  It only takes one delusional believer to cause a tragedy.   

[FM451]

UFO Fill, I'm totally in agreement with you - enough of the political shows!  On Saturday Night, John B. Wells has a show about UFOs and MU, and Alien Abduction.  Welcome change from the Corrupt Banks/Conspiracy shows. Hope this starts a trend, like the May 18th show (Life's Operating Manual) of more eclectic topics. 

[Nebraska888]

UFO Fill, I'm totally in agreement with you - enough of the political shows!  On Saturday Night, John B. Wells has a show about UFOs and MU, and Alien Abduction.  Welcome change from the Corrupt Banks/Conspiracy shows. Hope this starts a trend, like the May 18th show (Life's Operating Manual) of more eclectic topics. 

Yes!!!  Agreed!!!!   

[awake]

Thanks for looking ahead to the topic of the next JBW show.  I avoid the coast sight because I always get a queasy feeling even being on such a site, I hate for google's servers to forever associate me with the thing.  I'm serious, I will check it out but through a non-tracking site such as Startpage or something similar ( my own particular madness I suppose).
Anyway, thank you and I will attempt to do some initial checking on the guests and their backgrounds (academic and professional), past claims, agendas and so on.  I found it helped me to have context for who the guest really is when the wild claims start flying without challenge. 


For me, I listen to the show and hear this crazy shit being claimed and emotionally absorb the impact even while I vaguely "know" that it is all or mostly bullshit/taken out of context, etc..  Without learning something about the guest before the show I can't have more than that vague "this sounds just beyond crazy" feeling.  I usually think "I'm going to look into that person tomorrow" but then the next day I actually end just dealing with next day type stuff.  But I don't entirely forget that the night before somebody made outrageous claims on four hours of radio in over 500 markets.  And each time that nagging thought hits my conscious mind it bugs me briefly; and then the someone breaks a window or sets the dog on fire and I never get around to actually doing any research on these charlatans. 


So rather than continuing that ridiculous set of behaviors I'm thinking of taking an hour to look into some of the less well known guests in advance so I might understand them and their claims better AND in advance.  I guess, for me, the old cliche of "Forewarned is forearmed is true; I much prefer to have had time to learn what the claims are and understand which are complete bullshit and why beforehand.  I did this with the niece of Betty and Barney Hill and it didn't take much more than 20 minutes for me to come to the conclusion that she is simply capitalizing on her relation status with Betty Hill.  With that foreknowledge the show had an entirely different context for me; a much improved experience. 


I posted what I'd learned about Ms. Marden prior to the show and I hope it helped others prior to the show or gave them at least a jumping off point for their own Googling post-show.  I'm thinking of posting more of these mini-Google mining efforts but I don't want to end up with a huge number of posts on topics which are only relevant for a very short time.  Rather than that, with the approval of the new c2cwatch site I'll be posting those types of things there so they may be taken down post show. 


I'd really appreciate the thoughts of the people who frequent this forum so please, if you have any thoughts about this let me know.