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[chefist]

Sorry to hear that dude.

I eat my share of BBQ

Always a market for good Q!

[GravitySucks]

Always a market for good Q!

Do I remember you saying you were in AZ?

[chefist]

Do I remember you saying you were in AZ?

Tucson...BBQ sucks here...I might just open a little shack and blow out these posers...

[GravitySucks]

Tucson...BBQ sucks here...I might just open a little shack and blow out these posers...

I have family that live there. My Uncle (long passed) started flying helicopters for the PD after he got back from Vietnam and then had his only helicopter company for awhile.

I spent some time there as a kid and once in the 90's had to go to an IBM R&D center for work.

I do remember not being able to find decent food.

[PB the Deplorable]

Tucson...BBQ sucks here...I might just open a little shack and blow out these posers...

You should try it around here.  Pouring some goop over chopped meat, slow-cooked in an oven, and calling it barbeque just can't be the real thing.

[chefist]

I have family that live there. My Uncle (long passed) started flying helicopters for the PD after he got back from Vietnam and then had his only helicopter company for awhile.

I spent some time there as a kid and once in the 90's had to go to an IBM R&D center for work.

I do remember not being able to find decent food.

Was that IBM facility close to the airport?

[chefist]

You should try it around here.  Pouring some goop over chopped meat, slow-cooked in an oven, and calling it barbeque just can't be the real thing.

So many do it so wrong...no love...I got mountains of love!...oh, and the sides are maybe even better than the Q! That's how you know the place is really good!

1. Chuck wagon beans
2. 3 cheese mac
3. Buttermilk cornbread
4. Spicy, warm German bacon potato salad
5. French green bean and fried onion casserole

[GravitySucks]

Was that IBM facility close to the airport?

Fairly close, it was an R&D facility for their storage systems... About the time when they were switching their big mainframe disk drives that had the big platters and converting to 5.25 like we're being used in PCs.

[PB the Deplorable]

So many do it so wrong...no love...I got mountains of love!...oh, and the sides are maybe even better than the Q! That's how you know the place is really good!

1. Chuck wagon beans
2. 3 cheese mac
3. Buttermilk cornbread
4. Spicy, warm German bacon potato salad
5. French green bean and fried onion casserole

Here it's cole slaw and mashed potato with gravy. 

[PB the Deplorable]

It takes forever to get your order, like they're doing something special.  All they have to do is walk over to the oven, cut a piece off for your order, chop it up, pour the goop, and hand it to you.  What takes 20-30 minutes?

Video later.

[GravitySucks]

Lots of good BBQ by me.  Pulled pork is starting to make inroad here as well.  Of course, here we have to have green chiles with it.

[chefist]

Fairly close, it was an R&D facility for their storage systems... About the time when they were switching their big mainframe disk drives that had the big platters and converting to 5.25 like we're being used in PCs.

The building I was in for 5 years originally had IBM as a tenant when it was built in the 1970's...who knows, you may have actually been there!

[chefist]

It takes forever to get your order, like they're doing something special.  All they have to do is walk over to the oven, cut a piece off for your order, chop it up, pour the goop, and hand it to you.  What takes 20-30 minutes?

Video later.

Q should be absolutely fast! You smoke all night, make the sides in the morning...all are ready when you show up to order...just serve and pay...

That means they are reheating processed foods...which is why the quality sucks...

Oh, I forgot the slaw...mine is a vinaigrette base...NO MAYO EVER!

[GravitySucks]

The building I was in for 5 years originally had IBM as a tenant when it was built in the 1970's...who knows, you may have actually been there!

This was probably around 92 or 93.  I was running a computing facility for NASA and trying to modernize it to reduce costs. Took it from having about 70 operators to a lights out facility in 3 years.  Made some people really happy. Made some people really mad.

[PB the Deplorable]

Q should be absolutely fast! You smoke all night, make the sides in the morning...all are ready when you show up to order...just serve and pay...

That means they are reheating processed foods...which is why the quality sucks...

I think they are smoking real meat, they are just not in any hurry at all.  I've been to maybe 6-8 places between where I live and Berkeley/Oakland, and a couple in SF, all about the same setup, same service.  I don't bother anymore.

[ItsOver]

...Oh, I forgot the slaw...mine is a vinaigrette base...NO MAYO EVER!

That's how I prefer mine.  Plus a good mustard-based potato salad, with chunks of potatoes, not mashed.  German potato salad works, too

[chefist]

This was probably around 92 or 93.  I was running a computing facility for NASA and trying to modernize it to reduce costs. Took it from having about 70 operators to a lights out facility in 3 years.  Made some people really happy. Made some people really mad.

I hung tape in the Air Force in 91-95...thankless job for sure...all that was replaced soon after by high density tape cassettes (like in the movie Clear and Present Danger)...then I'm sure those became obsolete soon after...

[BobGrau]

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Video later.

[chefist]

That's how I prefer mine.  Plus a good mustard-based potato salad, with chunks of potatoes, not mashed.  German potato salad works, too

I use mustard in my German potato salad! it rocks! oh, a dash of nutmeg absolutely makes it unique...people scratching their heads as to the secret ingredient!

[chefist]

I think they are smoking real meat, they are just not in any hurry at all.  I've been to maybe 6-8 places between where I live and Berkeley/Oakland, and a couple in SF, all about the same setup, same service.  I don't bother anymore.

Also, many places use an electric smoker...you just don't get the depth of flavor as you do with a traditional stick burner...I love my stick! 

[GravitySucks]

I hung tape in the Air Force in 91-95...thankless job for sure...all that was replaced soon after by high density tape cassettes (like in the movie Clear and Present Danger)...then I'm sure those became obsolete soon after...

That's what we went to.  We had robotic tape drives for the cassettes.  STK had really cool ones with a custom built robot. IBM's robot was like one off of a Detroit assembly line that raced up and down on railroad tracks. NASA made me put in both kinds to show vendor neutrality. But the STK ones were the coolest. We could expand them like a beehive and they had little robots that could transfer tapes between the silos.

Pecan is the best smoking wood, lots of places here use mesquite, but too often they use too much and it is very overpowering. Good slow wet smoked pecan is my favorite.

[chefist]

That's what we went to.  We had robotic tape drives for the cassettes.  STK had really cool ones with a custom built robot. IBM's robot was like one off of a Detroit assembly line that raced up and down on railroad tracks. NASA made me put in both kinds to show vendor neutrality. But the STK ones were the coolest. We could expand them like a beehive and they had little robots that could transfer tapes between the silos.

Pecan is the best smoking wood, lots of places here use mesquite, but too often they use too much and it is very overpowering. Good slow wet smoked pecan is my favorite.

Ours were STK...Scott AFB, Illinois...Air Weather Service...climate models occupy a LOT of space!

I'm lucky down here as I live next to the largest pecan groves in the country! All the pecan I want and the best price!

[GravitySucks]

Ours were STK...Scott AFB, Illinois...Air Weather Service...climate models occupy a LOT of space!

I'm lucky down here as I live next to the largest pecan groves in the country! All the pecan I want and the best price!

I was in SAC for 8 years. Plattsburgh AFB, NY and then they gave me a southern tour to Omaha, NE.

Semper Fly

[chefist]

I was in SAC for 8 years. Plattsburgh AFB, NY and then they gave me a southern tour to Omaha, NE.

Semper Fly

At Offutt? Huge underground facility there for the gubment! I was at an AMC (successor of MAC) base, though I worked in a FOA....

[GravitySucks]

At Offutt? Huge underground facility there for the gubment! I was at an AMC (successor of MAC) base, though I worked in a FOA....

Lots of underground stuff when I was there... Proud member of the Royal Order of the Molehole and an Admiral in the Navy of the Great State of Nebraska.

[ItsOver]

Ours were STK...Scott AFB, Illinois...Air Weather Service...climate models occupy a LOT of space!

I'm lucky down here as I live next to the largest pecan groves in the country! All the pecan I want and the best price!

That sounds like a good opportunity.  You can always start small with BBQ.  Tucson should eat up some good pecan smoked BBQ.

[Eddie Coyle]

  In all fairness, who other than the biggest stathead rotisserie player would have known who McGwire and Sosa were in October, 1998?

    http://youtu.be/AggeSjZwx6s

[albrecht]

Pecan is the best smoking wood, lots of places here use mesquite, but too often they use too much and it is very overpowering. Good slow wet smoked pecan is my favorite.

I think it depends on what yer smoking and variety. Sometimes its nice to get a wildhair and use another type of wood- or even combos of them, post oak, apple, hickory, mesquite, pecan, etc. It is true that one can 'over smoke,' or so I'm told, but to me it is like hot sauce...once you're addicted you can't get enough. Years ago I won one of those cheap smokers in a fishing contest and had that thing down. And a good excuse for beer drinking all day when one 'monitors'. But I had it down so, for example, throw on a couple of birds and go to football game and come home and they were done, moist, and ready to eat. Like clockwork. Once though I made a funny rookie mistake and had several briskets....realized, hours later, that the meat was touching in-between racks. So, essentially, trying to smoke a foot+ of solid meat. Haha. Didn't work. I don't like that lots of BBQ places are using those rostisserie stuff with gas on almost an industrial scale. There is a place for rotisserie but don't sell it as bbq.

[aldousburbank]

Ours were STK...Scott AFB, Illinois...Air Weather Service...climate models occupy a LOT of space!

I'm lucky down here as I live next to the largest pecan groves in the country! All the pecan I want and the best price!

I have loaded up my share of that Sahuarita pecan wood.

[chefist]

I have loaded up my share of that Sahuarita pecan wood.

LOL you are well travelled soul, Aldous! Smoked meat and pecan pie! Heaven south of Tucson!