Started by timpate, September 20, 2010, 07:56:24 PM
Quote from: Marc Knight on March 01, 2011, 05:55:44 PMI don't think we are talking with that much of a broad brush. I take vitamin supplements every day, and even Melatonin as an occasional sleep aid. We're referring to people who partake of natural remedies, and have absolutely no scientific basis to believe that the substance is effective, or safe, at any quantity. Some natural remedies become more of a substantive placebo rather than a proven, safe alternative to mainstream medicine. For some, the more doubt surrounding a remedy, the more attractive it is.
Quote from: onan on March 01, 2011, 06:26:27 PMVitamin C is important in many aspects of homeostasis in the body. One of its contributions is in the immune system. So some nit made the conclusion vitamin c is good for fighting colds... well yeah it is but not by ingesting mega doses when a cold comes on... but thats the simple and easy to usnderstand story.Anyhoo, take vitamins it will be a boon to you. How much? not sure anyone can tell, but it is not a bad strategy.
Quote from: The General on March 01, 2011, 06:35:58 PMLinus Pauling and Robert Cathcart's research on the Vitamin C subject is really fascinating for anyone interested.
Quote from: haloedorchid on March 01, 2011, 07:37:12 PMThanks, I'll check it out. Also, vitamin D research has shown some promising results.
Quote from: Evil Twin Of Zen on March 01, 2011, 10:43:21 PMi've also heard it said somewhere that just taking lots of vitamins only produces expensive urine. ERNEST BORGNINE - Secret to Old Age
Quote from: Michael V. on March 01, 2011, 10:20:44 PMDo a google search for "steve Gibson vitamin d" and listen to that episode of his podcast. Fascinating. I now take vitamin d daily.
Quote from: Evil Twin Of Zen on March 01, 2011, 10:43:21 PMas i understand, some vitamin supplements still require proper foods to help absorb them. i've also heard it said somewhere that just taking lots of vitamins only produces expensive urine.
Quote from: Marc Knight on March 01, 2011, 01:48:50 PM It can derive from a mental pathology whereby anything "mainstream" is suspect, and anything "fringe" is somehow more effective. Let's call it the "Snakeoil Pathology".
Quote from: onan on March 01, 2011, 11:33:15 PMVitamins come in 2 varieties water soluable and fat soluable. Expensive urine is from over use of water soluable. Fat soluable vitamins can build up toxic levels in the body. Although it seems there is more concern about vitamin A and D. High levels of E and K seem to be less concerning. Nutrition is a very complicated subject not easily addressed in a forum about radio (stupid grin). Proper diet is always a no-brainer... on paper, daily life can knock the crap out of anyone's plan for healthy eating.
Quote from: b_dubb on March 02, 2011, 12:32:57 PMsomehow i feel like this talk of colloidal silver belongs under the Goblin Juice thread as that is the sort of fluid i would expect goblins to leak when squeezed at high pressure
Quote from: The General on March 02, 2011, 12:56:39 PMUnlike colloidal silver, Goblin Juice works. But it won't make you fly.
Quote from: b_dubb on March 02, 2011, 12:32:57 PMvitamins & supplements - i take a Stresstab like multi vitamin w/ zinc 'daily'. along with a selenium supplement and fish oil capsules. 'daily' - when i remember. somehow i feel like this talk of colloidal silver belongs under the Goblin Juice thread as that is the sort of fluid i would expect goblins to leak when squeezed at high pressure
Quote from: JustOneFix on March 02, 2011, 06:50:29 PMSpeaking of metals used as an antiseptic, can you still buy Mercurochrome?
Quote from: EvB on March 02, 2011, 07:19:46 PMYou can still buy topical antiseptic called Mercurochrome but given THIS - I'm not sure it's the same formula.
Quote from: The General on March 03, 2011, 12:01:42 AMI really always wondered why the only place mercury is considered safe anymore is IN YOUR MOUTH.
Quote from: onan on March 03, 2011, 08:32:24 AMYou ask a question that shows a good amount of insight. As humans we compartmentalize almost everything we do. From where we eat to how we discuss issues with others. So it isn't hard to see the thought "there is a thing called mercury poisoning, that is bad, all mercury is poisonous." Although specifically that is true it also doesn't tell the whole story.I am not a chemistry whiz, and do not claim to be. That said... here goes. Mercury is most toxic in a vaporous form ingested by inhaling. That most often happens in some form of manufacturing process. It can also happen from what I understand by certain folk medicines that use some form of mercury (something called azogue I think). I am sure there are other ways as well.Although not often seen anymore thermometers with mercury have been suspected culprits of mercuric poisoning. A child bites too hard on the thermometer and whoops there goes a dollop of liquid silver down the gullet. Much more often than not the chance of poisoning is small. The real culprit to poisoning with mercury comes from escaped mercury into the environment where it "dries out" and finds it way into water bodies. In those bodies of water bacteria start to work on the mercury changing it into methylmercury which then enters into our food chain. Dental implants using amalgams seem to be of very little to no threat medicinally speaking. It is difficult to argue with anecdotal reports because there are just too many variables to ever actually get to any substantive proof. Still the anecdote is valid on its face.Sorry for ranting here. I am a vaccine supportive individual. Anytime mercury becomes the subject I have an immediate knee-jerk reaction. Yes mercury is a significant toxin and needs to be controlled. But there are many benefits from using mercury appropriately. To eschew mercury because of legitimate reasons makes all the sense in the world. To avoid its use secondary to bad science is of no benefit to anyone.
Quote from: The General on March 03, 2011, 10:21:12 AMI am not a chemist, either. But the research looks to me like the tide is turning. If we know mercury is toxic, and we know now that it is released from dental amalgams, we shouldn't be using it.[/b]
Quote from: onan on March 03, 2011, 11:34:10 AMLooks like I am setting down to a big ole helping of humble pie...