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Started by Caruthers612, July 01, 2010, 10:34:40 PM

The General

When Jesus starts talking about loving your enemies and turning the other cheek, that's when I go back and read the old testament.  I guess I'm more of an OT kind of guy.

Deut 19:19-
Then shall ye do unto him, as he had thought to have done unto his brother: so shalt thou put the evil away from among you.

albrecht

Luke 22:36
"Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."

albrecht

Quote from: The General on July 15, 2014, 09:59:42 AM
When Jesus starts talking about loving your enemies and turning the other cheek, that's when I go back and read the old testament.  I guess I'm more of an OT kind of guy.

Deut 19:19-
Then shall ye do unto him, as he had thought to have done unto his brother: so shalt thou put the evil away from among you.
I like Jeremiah. He prayed for a lot of good ways to deal with enemies.

Jeremiah 18:21:
"Therefore deliver up their children to the famine, and pour out their blood by the force of the sword; and let their wives be bereaved of their children, and be widows; and let their men be put to death; let their young men be slain by the sword in battle."

Stellar

Quote from: albrecht on July 15, 2014, 10:37:34 AM
Luke 22:36
"Then said he unto them, But now, he that hath a purse, let him take it, and likewise his scrip: and he that hath no sword, let him sell his garment, and buy one."

Free will to choose yes.  There is only 2 paths here!

King of Kings



Down through the passage of time and now to the end of this epoch

What has become of man without compassion?

These blessings given yet not received in faith

Many seek in earnest their own glory by any fashion and taste

Humbled and brought down men find no wisdom in loss

Why succumb to anger and let vanity make you a waste

Therefore the wind blows and you know not its course

This world you adore is not a kind host

Too say there is a better way is right

Anointed was he that came for the highest post

Lifted off our shoulders the iniquity of our plight

His language was like no other, dividing the darkness from the light

A sacrifice most don’t believe

Thus will be the greatest torment





Have you ever walked in sandals comforted by a warm summer’s wind as finch’s serenade?

While you cross the neck of the trickling stream, an Oak tree reaches out like a faithful friend

The fruit you carry to your companion, awaits a pie too be made

Happily this couple continues on to the wooden house around the bend

The long journey to the father’s house of the groom comes to an end

The bride who waited through much suffering now at last is about to be married

The groom who broke his back while buying the ring was never buried

The father says, after your thousand-year honeymoon the wooden house is yours

This land will care for you and love will grow

Into your cup he pours

A unity between peoples sharing smiles of affection is what we know

This spirit will be common a joy is known

Stir your heart as you listen to hope that is true

I promise you will see love forever not fading to blue





As we wonder with great awe the travail of the world

Do we not see flowers in the desert, That some day bloom in the spring?

Yet the dragon desires them to be weeds of his Vail

Even if bows are broken the enemy will resort to a sling

That is desperation when one knows defeat is near

You say what is the prize of this unseen struggle

There are many souls on the fence and only two pastures are here

Misled multitudes step down into falsity were fools find no footing in the mire


Believe the divinity acting with care and a peaceful meadow you will acquire

Would you curse the savior that lifts you out of drowning waters?

Do you choose to reward the old serpent that shuts you in a burning house?

The battle is today and the twinkling of the eye tomorrow

Whose coat will you borrow?

Stellar

Quote from: albrecht on July 15, 2014, 10:44:33 AM
I like Jeremiah. He prayed for a lot of good ways to deal with enemies.

Jeremiah 18:21:
"Therefore deliver up their children to the famine, and pour out their blood by the force of the sword; and let their wives be bereaved of their children, and be widows; and let their men be put to death; let their young men be slain by the sword in battle."

Listen The New Testament supersedes the Old.

to paraphrase the Bible in two words

Second Covenant

albrecht

Quote from: Stellar on July 15, 2014, 10:57:00 AM
Listen The New Testament supersedes the Old.

to paraphrase the Bible in two words

Second Covenant
I understand that but recall also Matthew 5:17.

The General

Quote from: Stellar on July 15, 2014, 10:57:00 AM
Listen The New Testament supersedes the Old.


According to some.  I'm still not convinced. 
I'm like a lapsed Christian, back to the roots.
I'm like a non-Jewish Jew. 

Yorkshire pud

Tremendous...the god slot...


carry on.

onan

Nothing stops me from being kind, generous, and helpful while owning a firearm.

Quick Karl

This if from the Book of Karl Chapter 1, Verse 1 - He that preaches to turnith the other cheekith should be madeith to stand at the frontith of the line whenith the battle begins so that the defenders of what is right can use your deadith corpseith as coverith...

Quote from: albrecht on July 15, 2014, 10:44:33 AM
I like Jeremiah. He prayed for a lot of good ways to deal with enemies.

Jeremiah 18:21:
"Therefore deliver up their children to the famine, and pour out their blood by the force of the sword; and let their wives be bereaved of their children, and be widows; and let their men be put to death; let their young men be slain by the sword in battle."

That's very similiar to my favorite quote from the Book of Conan.

"'What is best in life, Conan?'" "'To crush your enemies -- See them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their vimmen!'"

Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on July 15, 2014, 01:15:13 PM
That's very similiar to my favorite quote from the Book of Conan.

"'What is best in life, Conan?'" "'To crush your enemies -- See them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of their vimmen!'"

"Valor pleases you, Crom... so grant me one request. Grant me revenge! And if you do not listen, then to HELL with you! "


WildCard

The O.T. swings both ways. One verse is, "I desire mercy, not sacrifice", the next is, "Kill every man, woman and child".
Quote from: Stellar on July 15, 2014, 09:49:49 AM
I must stand for what Jesus spoke of, but I hear you General its hard to turn the Cheek.
"Jesus never turned the other cheek. When he was he hit, he turned to the man and asked, 'Why did you hit me? Have I done something to you?".
-Malachi Martin

Constantine and the Romans used Christianity for their own ends - to quell the Jewish revolution.

Caesar's Messiah - The Roman Conspiracy to Invent Jesus
"Who was Jesus?
Why is there no historic archaeological evidence of his existence?"

Who wrote the Gospels?
Why were they written in Greek, rather than Hebrew or Aramaic?"

How did the Christian religion come to be centered in Rome?
Why were the first Christian pope and earliest saints all members of the Flavius Caesar ruling family?"


All that said, I wish more "Christians" thought like you.

Edit-Aw C'mon Stellar. It's kinda' funny.

NowhereInTime

Quote from: Quick Karl on July 15, 2014, 01:14:20 PM
This if from the Book of Karl Chapter 1, Verse 1 - He that preaches to turnith the other cheekith should be madeith to stand at the frontith of the line whenith the battle begins so that the defenders of what is right can use your deadith corpseith as coverith...
Doucheith Bagith.

HAL 9000

Quote from: Stellar on July 15, 2014, 09:27:24 AM2nd Covenant is love

2nd Amendment:

My two 20 round magazines and Beretta 92FS:



And not aimed (pun intended) specifically at you Stellar, but are people currently unable to express thoughtful ideas or opinions with prose, instead of needlessly and incessantly pasting Youtube videos as a means of expression?

Just a huge pet-peeve of mine and the subsequent disconnectedness our culture substitutes for original thought.

NowhereInTime

Quote from: HAL 9000 on July 15, 2014, 03:49:33 PM
2nd Amendment:

My two 20 round magazines and Beretta 92FS:



And not aimed (pun intended) specifically at you Stellar, but are people currently unable to express thoughtful ideas or opinions with prose, instead of needlessly and incessantly pasting Youtube videos as a means of expression?

Just a huge pet-peeve of mine and the subsequent disconnectedness our culture substitutes for original thought.
I like to insert them as a function of mocking the sanctimony of my opposition.  Sorry if that rankles.
Though I happen to notice here that you seem ever so willing to show off your phallic substitute as some kind of practice of intimidation.  I'm wrong about that, though, right?  I mean it's not like every second amendment poster here hasn't shown off the hardware...

Quick Karl

Quote from: NowhereInTime on July 15, 2014, 04:23:56 PM
I like to insert them as a function of mocking the sanctimony of my opposition.  Sorry if that rankles.
Though I happen to notice here that you seem ever so willing to show off your phallic substitute as some kind of practice of intimidation.  I'm wrong about that, though, right?  I mean it's not like every second amendment poster here hasn't shown off the hardware...

Only a person that defines themselves by, and is insecure about their own adequacy, would continuously suggest what you have in this childish post. It is not the gun that scares you -- you are projecting your own irrational and unpredictable behavior, in a what-if situation with you as a gun possessor, based on self-knowledge, that lies at the root of your hysterical obsession with gun owners, and your adolescent approach to the topic.

That just isn't fair or objective, in the least, and in fact, contradicts the "scientific method" of arriving at a rational conclusion.

Hereith endith the lessonith.

Stellar

Quote from: Quick Karl on July 15, 2014, 07:31:10 PM
Only a person that defines themselves by, and is insecure about their own adequacy, would continuously suggest what you have in this childish post. It is not the gun that scares you -- you are projecting your own irrational and unpredictable behavior, in a what-if situation with you as a gun possessor, based on self-knowledge, that lies at the root of your hysterical obsession with gun owners, and your adolescent approach to the topic.

That just isn't fair or objective, in the least, and in fact, contradicts the "scientific method" of arriving at a rational conclusion.

Hereith endith the lessonith.

Thanks Yet kindness is cool


Zoo

Guns and bullets should be sold in vending machines at every corner in the United States!!1

Quick Karl

Quote from: Zoo on July 15, 2014, 08:17:14 PM
Guns and bullets should be sold in vending machines at every corner in the United States!!1

That is absurd.

Condoms, birth control pills, and DIY home-abortion kits should...

Yorkshire pud

Quote from: Quick Karl on July 15, 2014, 08:20:23 PM
That is absurd.

Condoms, birth control pills, and DIY home-abortion kits should...

I very much doubt you'll be in a position to be needing the first. The second is also moot as no woman in her right mind would willingly have a sex life with you; that being the case she's unlikely to regret it and need the third. Which leaves you to wank over your target sheets.

Quote from: Quick Karl on July 15, 2014, 08:20:23 PM
That is absurd.

Condoms, birth control pills, and DIY home-abortion kits should...


No, you haven't been paying attention - those are supposed to be distributed free from a booth on every corner.

If they're in vending machines, it means some corporation is profiting from the war on women.

albrecht

Quote from: Paper*Boy on July 16, 2014, 01:20:26 AM

No, you haven't been paying attention - those are supposed to be distributed free from a booth on every corner.

If they're in vending machines, it means some corporation is profiting from the war on women.
I think they should be given out in schools with the free breakfasts.

Stellar

Quote from: HAL 9000 on July 15, 2014, 03:49:33 PM
2nd Amendment:

My two 20 round magazines and Beretta 92FS:



And not aimed (pun intended) specifically at you Stellar, but are people currently unable to express thoughtful ideas or opinions with prose, instead of needlessly and incessantly pasting Youtube videos as a means of expression?

Just a huge pet-peeve of mine and the subsequent disconnectedness our culture substitutes for original thought.
Listen you think I don't have a clue about this absolute shit then you are misguided!


War



Here I am treason

Our ego and avarice the reason

Gold, God, Woman or land

Drought so no food this season



Oh cultivated laced beauty

Betray our rapture and tranquility

She assails her doctrine and flees to her homeland

This maiden the queen of treachery



It’s all about wielding power

To influence people like watering a flower

Hopefully for freewill

Maybe a ruse to enslave from an ivory tower



Idol of affection

Monstrous and vile in contention

Golden power an altar of oozing blood

Valued greater than God such illusion



Here I am treason

Our ego and avarice the reason

Gold, God, Woman or land

Drought so no food this season



Poor man fight my war

I promise respect and lore

Go off and kill nationalism

Please the screams can be your horror



It’s all about wielding power

To influence people like watering a flower

Hopefully for freewill

Maybe a ruse to enslave from an ivory tower



Cardinal sin with lust

Pontiff covet that wealth in a gust

A Pope wages war and remembers to kill the meek

Bishop provokes death and makes it just



Here I am treason

Our ego and avarice the reason

Gold, God, Woman or land

Drought so no food this season



Agony and terror the limbs flung spurting

A torture victim groans from another slice and is hurting

Many bodies mutilated and dead for a few feet of terrain

Men grappling gouging each other’s eyes that are stinging



You know what here you go.  Listen I could give a fuck about your weapon my point is the pen is mighty then the sword and the keyboard along with a computer is exponentialy more powerful so here is a tid bit.

Full Metal Jacket Private Pyle part 3 of 3

Maybe you need boot camp then head over to Syria with that hand gun!

Saving Private Ryan Ending Final Battle Full Scene HD Part 1

I get the picture and yes I believe in the Constitution.


b_dubb

turn your guns into burritos.  i'm hungry

Avi

In a mad reversal, I'm busy turning plowshares into guns! But first, I turned my swords into plowshares. Phew! It's thirsty work, I tell ya.



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