Guns

[West of the Rockies]

Onan said:  "It is difficult to discuss a subject with someone that implies buying a firearm is some measure of compensation for a penis. Then have the temerity to challenge another for immature arguments."

I think we can all agree, yes, that a jacked-up pick up truck is the true indicator of a small penis, yes? 

I'm just injecting a bit of levity into the discussion; you raise some excellent points in your comment above, Onan, which are well worth discussing.

[gbneely]

I think we can all agree, yes, that a jacked-up pick up truck is the true indicator of a small penis, yes? 

I thought it was a Corvette.

[aldousburbank]

I think we can all agree, yes, that a jacked-up pick up truck is the true indicator of a small penis, yes? 

Publicly exposed shaved heads. Put a cover on it dickears.

[Yorkshire pud]

Someone said an assault rifle had no purpose other than killing people. I would argue the purpose of any firearm is directly related to the person holding it.

As for who designed the bottom weapon or why, I have no idea and neither do you.

It wasn't a smart arse question; I don't know, you're right. But obviously it was designed to project an image. Any firearm without ammunition in and the safety catch on is good for being a  club and little else (bayonet not withstanding); I've used rifles in my past, and only time they had a round in or fired was with a target and and sandpit in front.

The point was there is no substantive difference between what people are calling an unacceptable "assault" weapon and an acceptable firearm. They are both capable of killing with great efficacy. At the end of the day, all firearms are designed to kill and can be used to that end. The gun control movement isn't about ridding the world of assault weapons. The movement's ultimate aim is to make illegal the private ownership of firearms.

Private ownership is fine as long as you're certain everyone has the aptitude, ability and are mentally fit to be let loose with them, or is acceptable the attrition rate? We're told by some on here that all Democratic voters are mentally ill; so that precludes about a 100 million to begin with (Because the right wing bigot who said it wouldn't make it up) And those are just the ones you know of. The Government are not aiming to make private ownership illegal, didn't Obama rescind restrictions imposed by Bush Mk2?

[West of the Rockies]

Shhhhhh, Yorkie... OF COURSE the government wants to take away our guns!  I know Carter, Clinton, Obama has such plans!

[aldousburbank]

Publicly exposed shaved heads. Put a cover on it dickears.

Sorry the Ziznak. 

[gbneely]

It wasn't a smart arse question; I don't know, you're right. But obviously it was designed to project an image. Any firearm without ammunition in and the safety catch on is good for being a  club and little else (bayonet not withstanding); I've used rifles in my past, and only time they had a round in or fired was with a target and and sandpit in front.
Private ownership is fine as long as you're certain everyone has the aptitude, ability and are mentally fit to be let loose with them, or is acceptable the attrition rate? We're told by some on here that all Democratic voters are mentally ill; so that precludes about a 100 million to begin with (Because the right wing bigot who said it wouldn't make it up) And those are just the ones you know of. The Government are not aiming to make private ownership illegal, didn't Obama rescind restrictions imposed by Bush Mk2?

I don't subscribe to the view that all Democratic voters are mentally ill. I also don't subscribe to the view that freedoms should be limited based on someone's arbitrary view of what constitutes aptitude and ability. I never mentioned Government making private gun ownership illegal; I said it was the aim of the gun control movement. Although I am sure there are some in government who would like to, there are many in government who are opposed to that type of gun control. I'm not aware of Obama easing any gun control measures implemented by Bush. If you have proof of that, I'd look at it and would gladly admit it occurred.

[West of the Rockies]

Well, a quick internet search revealed this intriguing bit of info:

"According to a report that was released back in January 2010 by the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, in the first year of his presidency, President Obama signed into law more repeals of federal gun policies than in the eight years of the Bush administration that preceded him. As a candidate back in 2008, President Obama stated that he believed in certain constraints on the second amendment."

The website is Politic365 (I've not heard of it before).

[onan]

WTF? Dude, you're taking me up on the AZ/NM Burbank Compound Sofa Scenario AKA Operation Dude Ranch?

Yeah, it is probably 2 years away. But seriously looking... cash on the barrel head.

[gbneely]

Well, a quick internet search revealed this intriguing bit of info:

"According to a report that was released back in January 2010 by the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence, in the first year of his presidency, President Obama signed into law more repeals of federal gun policies than in the eight years of the Bush administration that preceded him. As a candidate back in 2008, President Obama stated that he believed in certain constraints on the second amendment."

The website is Politic365 (I've not heard of it before).

I'm not certain that constitutes proof. I will say this: my general feeling is this administration is in favor of more, rather than less, gun control.

http://www.businessinsider.com/obama-gun-control-executive-actions-2014-1

[aldousburbank]

Yeah, it is probably 2 years away. But seriously looking... cash on the barrel head.

Barrel heads can be found cheap there mi amigo. I have cousins...
Your train disembark is Benson, or as I refer to it, lovely historic side of the interstate Btown. The Earps used to keep the place clean but now it's up to us guys and our cousins. Problem is, most of what's bringing down property values there is our other cousins corriendio grifa, gentes, y todo modo de chingaderra.

[Little Hater]

Surely.  When someone presents a reasoned argument in a discussion about important issues, you are always free to respond by saying "I just disagree."  And when you are asked to present the basis for your disagreement, you are also entitled to reply, "I just do."  And if it bothers you that someone feels you're a simpleton for equating your feelings with logic and facts, why, that's allowed to.

A still better question is why you think that offering, "Because I say so" contributes anything useful to a discussion about an important issue.  People get irritated with the distracting buzz of insects.  Deal with it.

Thanks for proving my point. At no time have I said 'because I said so0 or anything like it. My edit of your image was just the beginning of my participation here. I had intended to reply to Yorkshire Pud's reply to my post, but it's obvious he (and you) have no real interest in opposing views. Doesn't make you a simpleton, but you might actually learn something by entertaining other opinions.

[Quick Karl]

The notion that a type of firearm, or the origin of a particular firearm's design, or how 'scary' a firearm looks, could cause any rational, law-abiding citizen, to suddenly lose their self-control and go on a shooting spree, for whatever reason, is merely a projection of the irrational people espousing those beliefs.

Therefore, those people should preclude themselves from owning any firearm, which would be the right thing to do as a good moral considerate citizen of a community - lest your neighbor anger you or disagree with you and you resort to murder.

Anyone that is on ANY SSRI prescription medication should NOT be allowed to own or possess firearms, period, nor should any convicted felon, unless his or her  rights are restored by a Court of Law. Also, illegal drug users should, and already are, prohibited by law, from owning or possessing firearms.

But that isn't going to stop lunatics from getting a gun and lashing out - like the Columbine assholes, the VMI asshole, the Tucson asshole, the Aurora, CO asshole, or the Newtown, CN asshole - ALL on SSRI's, but the Newton, CN asshole refused to take his.

The answer is NOT to outlaw firearms or firearms you don't like the looks or function of, to make a few pansies feel good but do absolutely nothing constructive to confront the problem. The answer IS to outlaw assholes and people that are afraid of their own emotional impulses.

The other side of the argument is that most of the people that are hysterically opposed to firearms they don't like because of how they look and/or function, is that those people are opposed to those firearms only as a first step, and, precisely because those people live in the abject fear that if they begin to infringe upon or otherwise violate the Rights of people that disagree with them, or point out the fallacies contained in their philosophies, that these people will do something so irrational, it will get them killed.

The notion of living their own life and keeping their nose in their own backyard is lost on them.

[aldousburbank]

http://youtu.be/VEgCp6qqxik

[Quick Karl]

I've NEVER watched that show but I LIKE that girl!

[aldousburbank]

I've NEVER watched that show but I LIKE that girl!

Ainsley Hayes. Worth watching in season 2.

[Quick Karl]

Ainsley Hayes. Worth watching in season 2.

I love smart, beautiful women, but I very rarely watch TV.

I am in the middle of reading The Plantagenets by Dan Jones - great book so far! My next book (just delivered from Amazon) is Nothing but the Truth, an Anthology of Native American Literature.

[DigitalPigSnuggler]

The answer IS to outlaw assholes and people that are afraid of their own emotional impulses.

Oh, indeed.  That's a far more practical and realistic solution: outlaw people of certain personality types.  String 'em up, I say.  Or better still: crucifixion.  "Nail some sense into them!"   

I'm kind of ashamed of myself now for ever believing that you're a simple-minded agent provocateur. 

[West of the Rockies]

I love smart, beautiful women, but I very rarely watch TV.

I am in the middle of reading The Plantagenets by Dan Jones - great book so far! My next book (just delivered from Amazon) is Nothing but the Truth, an Anthology of Native American Literature.

Venture onto the Reading thread... lots of good recommendations there; add your to that mix.

[Sambo]

I've taken a liking to my farts of late.

[Quick Karl]

Last night I watched The Family Jewels with Jerry Lewis... I haven't laughed that much since, well, reading some of the stupidity here - but the circumstances were way different and the laughter was joy instead of utter disgust.

Nevertheless, that movie is a thousand fold better than watching assholes pretend they are ghetto killers or girls acting like stupid sluts and whores.

Life really WAS BETTER back in those days!

I'm cleaning my arsenal waiting for the first shot to be fired...

[UnscreenedCaller]

I'm cleaning my arse waiting for the first shot to be fired...

Perhap an enema would help?

[Pope Francis]

 Well, I got a van and the only use I have for it is killin people, so I'ma gonna have to say "van" what do I win?

[NowhereInTime]

I love smart, beautiful women, but I very rarely watch TV.

Poor Karl.  Those damn little teases on Nickolodeon do make it so difficult to stay clean...

[Yorkshire pud]

Perhap an enema would help?

I was going to reply directly to Karl; but I'm crying laughing at this^^^ Follow that!

[FightTheFuture]

Ainsley Hayes. Worth watching in season 2.

Ainsley Earhardt. Worth watching Fox News any season.

[Quick Karl]

Ainsley Earhardt. Worth watching Fox News any season.

99-times out of 100, Constitutionalist women are just SOOOOOO much better looking than those liberal scowling scab women.

[Quick Karl]

Perhap an enema would help?

Pull your head out of your ass, asshole. You won't need an enema then.

[DigitalPigSnuggler]

Pull your head out of your ass, asshole. You won't need an enema then.

Ayyyy, gavoon, you suck my cock with that mouth?

[aldousburbank]

Have you guys been to a mattress rodeo lately?  I get all keyed up when I haven't been in the saddle or at least gotten lassoed or bucked off for a while.