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Quote from: Philosopher on September 09, 2016, 01:06:53 PMLosing marijuana business, Mexican cartels push heroin and methhttps://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/losing-marijuana-business-mexican-cartels-push-heroin-and-meth/2015/01/11/91fe44ce-8532-11e4-abcf-5a3d7b3b20b8_story.html
Quote from: 21st Century Man on September 09, 2016, 01:07:58 PMDrugs wreck so many families and I include marijuana use too. That was the gateway drug for my brother and it set him on a course of self-destruction. We have friends who have used pot in the past and they became very hooked on it and were practically worthless. They couldn't hold a job and they didn't give a rat's ass about anything. They have since gotten off of the pot and are leading productive lives once again. I've tried marijuana and it didn't do much for me. Sure, it has positive uses for those beset with certain medical conditions and it should be prescribed to those patients who might be helped. Otherwise I have no use for it.
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on September 09, 2016, 12:59:27 PMWhile this is tragic I object to the title of the thread, which is obviously meant to associate heroin with all other drugs (or at least the ones you don't like). Nice try but Mr. Mackey already beat you to it.
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on September 09, 2016, 01:09:40 PMFeels before realz, bro. Show me some actual proof that your feelings represent objective reality.
Quote from: Yorkshire pud on September 09, 2016, 01:09:52 PMIf you're going to suggest that class A and B narcotic abuse is a good thing then you'll need to do better than that. It isn't just the users that get fucked; its their familes. I was burgled because the fuck needed the money to buy shit. So I paid for it too. Its the mules who get killed because the customers who buy it are a lucrative end point. So please please don't try and sell the myth that its all furry bunnies and big fluffy clouds.
Quote from: Yorkshire pud on September 09, 2016, 01:12:07 PMTouchy aren't you? You needing a fix?
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on September 09, 2016, 01:08:26 PMWell, at least your avatar is a clown. People can take that as a warning label: Warning! Post may contain no actual facts.
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on September 09, 2016, 01:13:26 PMI'm not saying there aren't people who have problems with drugs but I don't believe in throwing the baby out with the bath water. Some drugs have simply been wrongly classified for political reasons. Do you actually think marijuana is a narcotic?
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on September 09, 2016, 01:14:04 PMIt's touchy to call people on their bullshit now?!
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on September 09, 2016, 01:10:35 PMDo you use any drugs?
Quote from: 21st Century Man on September 09, 2016, 01:20:35 PMNo. Just alcohol occasionally mostly when I go out to eat.
Quote from: Yorkshire pud on September 09, 2016, 01:16:49 PMYes, in the same way tobacco is. If Tobacco was discovered now it would be class A, no question. Beer was only invented by monks because the water was undrinkable, but booze kills thousands a year, either directly or indirectly. Just because both are legal doesn't mean Dope should be, Its been very well manipulated under the guise of 'medicinal'. Oh bingo, we'll sell it now under medicinal even if it isn't. Cynical marketing, much?
Quote from: Yorkshire pud on September 09, 2016, 01:17:43 PMWhat exactly are you saying is bullshit?
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on September 09, 2016, 01:26:54 PMSo, you use it responsibly but understand that it can be VERY destructive and destroy peoples lives, right? Do you think you should forego your enjoyment of it because of the potential problem it might be to others?
Quote from: Yorkshire pud on September 09, 2016, 01:32:12 PMYou seem to be an advocate of Pot? Yes? You're aware then that it prevents the brain fully forming in young adults? Naturally it is complete by the age of about 24, but taking dope in the teenage/early twenties stops that formation..The problem is, is that the bit that doesn't join up controls reasoning. Which is why when we're old farts we shake our heads at the idiotic things we did as teenagers. It wasn't because we were necessarily 'idiotic'; but our brains hadn't yet developed to say 'now is that really a good idea?'WE therefore grow out of it, but a fully fledged dope user won't, ever. And will continue to do idiotic things more than would be normal because they can't reason to do anything else.
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on September 09, 2016, 01:28:50 PMTrying to correlate marijuana use to heroin use as a gateway drug. Complete and utter bullshit. Show me some real science on this, bro...science that HASN"T been funded by the alcohol sellers.
Quote from: 21st Century Man on September 09, 2016, 01:30:20 PMNo disrespect, Dr. MD MD but I think loosening drug laws will have terrible effects on our society. More people will start doing it and some will lose their jobs as a result. Families will become more dysfunctional. I see nothing good coming out of legalizing drugs for anything other than medicinal purposes. I'm all for people having the freedom to do what they want but only as long as no harm comes to other folks as a result. Unfortunately the family is adversely affected by members who have the habit and become dysfunctional.
Quote from: K_Dubb on September 09, 2016, 01:36:41 PMThe legality of various drugs has always been, and should remain, a cultural question handled politically. You will look in vain for any scientific logic behind it. One culture can handle it, another can't.The doctors behind the FDA should just be one more voice in the debate instead of the arbiter. Allowing scientists that kind of power will lead to controlling sugar.
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on September 09, 2016, 01:37:22 PMYou didn't answer my questions and again, these are your feelings. Some people have felt that sex is a bad thing too and want to restrict that as much as possible. We should just start running science according to popular feelings and let that dictate our politics. :
Quote from: Yorkshire pud on September 09, 2016, 01:46:36 PMOh foul! Since when did any political decision NOT involve or get dictated to by feelings? Its factual that the USA has the highest obesity rate of any country in the world. Yet where is the clamour from the population to do anything about it as far as demanding less or no sugar being fed to kids through food and drinks? Shouts of 'Nanny state' and 'Being controlled by 'them'. The 'feeling' in this case is that 'Parents know best; when demonstrably they clearly do not in many cases, (See the OP). QED.
Quote from: Yorkshire pud on September 09, 2016, 01:36:20 PMOh I didn't correlate Pot to heroin; I said drug addicts should be thrown in the sea. I don't know about the US< but in the UK the research isn't funded by the beer companies. Its usually done by the drug rehab charities. (Who cover all addictive substances)
Quote from: albrecht on September 09, 2016, 01:44:24 PMThe main reason why some areas in The Netherlands have 'cracked down' on smart shops (mushrooms, etc) and coffee shops (weed) was due to drug tourism and usually foreigners who get rowdy (drinking also) and over do it...
Quote from: Yorkshire pud on September 09, 2016, 01:46:36 PMYet where is the clamour from the population to do anything about it as far as demanding less or no sugar being fed to kids through food and drinks?