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Quote from: SredniVashtar on October 31, 2022, 07:22:56 AMI answered your question, now you answer mine. Are there any circumstances in which you would accept that war is justified?
Quote from: Silphion on October 31, 2022, 01:47:33 AM
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on November 01, 2022, 01:05:48 AMhttps://somacles.files.wordpress.com/2018/07/alexander-dugin-fourth-political-theory.pdf
Quote from: WOTR on November 01, 2022, 01:17:52 AMSure. Why not? The Ukraine might be a recent example. The Ukrainians should absolutely declare war. And some support should even be offered. Just not a blank cheque with no will to ever negotiate peace until a single twit of a politician (Zelensky) gives his permission. If we are footing the bill now and are expected to foot it for the next decade, then possibly we get a bit of a say to negotiate a possible peace. I suppose where we differ is the extent of risk that we see as reasonable, the amount of support that needs to be offered, the willingness to end the damn war and admitting that we may have played a tiny, itty bitty role in provoking what happened.Another good example recently brought up here would be Iraq. Absolutely justified that the Iraqis declared war when their country was invaded. Too bad we didn't offer them military aid. We can cite the 1857 Indian mutiny. Pretty sure that was justified.Reaching farther into the past, the American war of independence. Canada was dumb to not turn on the crown at the same time. But here we are after having burned the white house down in the war of 1812 instead of telling Britain to get bent during the war of independence. This is a great song that recounts the war of 1812 without the usual propaganda and spin.**Apologies to our American posters. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7jlFZhprU4
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on October 31, 2022, 11:26:35 AMOh yeah? Come here and say that. I won't hold my breath. Like I said before Britain should fight this war themselves. Oh, that's right...Putin would squish you like a bug without our help. You really are pathetic. 🙄
Quote from: K_Dubb on October 31, 2022, 10:41:07 AMNo, we drive a hard bargain. Churchill signed away the Empire for some old destroyers, if I remember correctly, because Roosevelt had him over a barrel and anyway like a typical lying Englisher he didn't think he'd have to keep that promise. But we made him do it.For the rest of the world, the defeat of the British Empire by Roosevelt is far more significant than what we did in Europe.
Quote from: SredniVashtar on November 01, 2022, 09:21:17 AMHappy to. PM me your address.
Quote from: SredniVashtar on November 01, 2022, 09:28:22 AMThis is why you are a nation of lousy bastards. Just imagine nickle and diming the future of the world just so you can work off a petty little grudge against your colonial betters. You're the world's biggest imperialists, polluting the world with your rotten films, Coca-Cola, and Donny Osmond. You're like bloody Gandhi, who was quite happy to let his country be raped by the Japs rather than stand up for himself, the skinny little, nappy-wearing bastard. I think that's why I hate you so much, you're just an anaemic Gandhi, with all your anti-British rodomontade. Pfui! (that's me spitting on you, by the way!)
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on November 01, 2022, 09:32:14 AMYou can't even fight the Russians yourself. How could you handle me?!
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on November 01, 2022, 09:34:10 AMSmack! (That's me slapping you across your stupid face...hard.)
Quote from: SredniVashtar on November 01, 2022, 09:35:59 AMYou could barely reach my kneecaps.
Quote from: SredniVashtar on November 01, 2022, 09:35:03 AMWhat a surprise, the pussy pussies out.
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on November 01, 2022, 09:46:52 AMYes you do and then you expect us to fight all your battles for you. Wankers! 🙄
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on November 01, 2022, 09:45:44 AMNah! It's pretty easy with you in that wheelchair. 🙄
Quote from: SredniVashtar on November 01, 2022, 09:56:32 AMStill waiting for your address, big boy. You're the one that started it, don't back out now.
Quote from: SredniVashtar on November 01, 2022, 09:57:46 AMAh, you're only threatening me because you think I'm paraplegic and therefore easily bested?
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on November 01, 2022, 10:01:41 AMI had heard you were wheelchair bound but even if you weren't you'd be easily bested.
Quote from: SredniVashtar on November 01, 2022, 10:02:22 AMIn that case why are you backing out of a physical confrontation if it's so easy for you to kick my ass?
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on November 01, 2022, 10:10:43 AMIt would be too easy. For some reason I find it difficult to be afraid of British men.
Quote from: SredniVashtar on November 01, 2022, 10:19:49 AMNo, you're just attracted to them. Your feeble attempt to offer me out to the car park was really just another of your gay fantasies about buggering me, you sordid repressed homo.
Quote from: https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2022/10/a-real-plebiscite-election-or-fight-the-snp/A "plebiscite election" on Scottish Independence can only mean an election fought on that issue with the understanding that, if the election is won, Independence will be declared. It cannot mean anything else...
QuoteSeveral ships loaded with liquefied natural gas (LNG) that have been circling off the coast of Spain are likely to stay there until late November, as they wait for European gas prices to go up, Reuters reported on Wednesday, citing industry sources...
Quote from: https://www.danielgreenfield.org/2022/10/new-report-warns-americas-woke-military.html...The takeaway from the Heritage report that "the current U.S. military force is at significant risk of not being able to meet the demands of a single major regional conflict while also attending to various presence and engagement activities" should be a grave warning and a wake up call...
Quote from: Roswells, Art on November 01, 2022, 02:45:10 PMUh oh, K_Dubb is going to scratch MD's eyes out in a fit of jealousy.
Quote from: pate on November 01, 2022, 03:06:18 PMUh-oh:New Report Warns America's Woke Military "Would Struggle in a War"This does not bode well for wider US involvement in The Ukraine, to say nothing of any potential Sino-Asiatic Adventures...Nautical Shore?-p/self-reported: US Armed Forces readiness levels have nothing to do with The Ukraine or the Conflict there
Quote from: pate on November 01, 2022, 02:39:50 PMAs a hypothetical scenario, and using the following article as reference:A Real Plebiscite Election, or Fight the SNPShould (through international meddling by the SeekRut Service Agents of the PFDRp, for instance) the particular MAPA goal of Scottish Independence (and subsequent annexation to the United States) by popular acclaim be achieved: Would the Anglish attempt to reclaim their wayward colony by force or farce?I axe only for a fiend and perhaps fiendish raisons des êtres...Before any cries of "Off-Topic SPAM-ity SPAM" are raised, I shall at the end of this posting self-report.-p/self-reported: could be construed as off-topic and/or Digital Rape
Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 01, 2022, 07:48:08 PMHmmmm. Heritage Foundation. That would be the completely none partisan and independent 'pick a rage' think tank thingy? Some of it will please some here: Apparently the US's nuclear capability is not up to muster. Presumably it can only eradicate all life on the planet three times over instead of four. Laughable take on the navy. It has the second biggest air force (not to be confused with Airforce) in the world. That doesn't include surface ships and the submarine fleet that don't launch fixed wing aircraft.So, nil point as a piece of serious 'research'.