Started by pate, September 04, 2022, 06:48:47 PM
Quote from: K_Dubb on October 29, 2022, 10:27:24 AMOk before it was "most" now it is "some". "Some" online loudmouth Poo Tin fanboys don't get to choose.
Quote from: SredniVashtar on October 29, 2022, 05:39:31 AMWhat is wrong with it? You have a system where you elect your representatives to represent you. You don't have a system where you make decisions by referenda on every issue. Do you want a system where the ones that shout the loudest are automatically listened to? What's a 'good portion' anyway? You all distrust elections these days, why should we trust opinion polls either? Are the other side pretending that they would force Ukraine to make peace? No, so your argument is phoney. If you don't like an administration then you vote them out the first chance you get. If you want a different system then, if enough people agree with you, you can do that too. What you seem to want is a version of mob rule, so long as the mob are on your side, which can never be guaranteed.To be blunt, Russian propaganda is so deep now that a lot of people don't even realise they are being played. The whole moon landing hoax was a Russian psy-op designed to discredit the Americans. They are very good at playing on the fears of paranoid, rather uneducated people. You and MD are prime examples of the way people get suckered. You don't have to be a cheerleader for the West to understand that allowing someone like Putin to run around unchecked is bad for everyone. All you are doing is putting your head in the sand. It's an acknowledged psyschological condition called 'normalcy bias' where people can't allow themselves to accept that a situation is serious so they pretend that it's all completely normal.What exactly do you do when someone assumes that you are a pussy and won't stand up for yourself under any circumstances? Why bother even having a military if you aren't even prepared to use it as a bluff any more? Are there any circumstances when you'd stand up to Putin? Does he have to annex the whole of Eastern Europe before you'd even begin to acknowledge that there is a problem? Seriously, I'd love to know if you 'peace at any price' types have any red line at all.
Quote from: K_Dubb on October 29, 2022, 10:13:40 AMNo it is a good investment. Ukrainians doing a great job blowing up all those tanks Pootie had pointed at Europe, why we had to base so many soldiers there.
Quote from: SredniVashtar on October 29, 2022, 05:49:28 AMAs firm as your penis outside an elementary school?
Quote from: WOTR on October 29, 2022, 12:30:32 PMI'm sorry- did you manage to type that without laughing? If so, can you please explain this map and how many additional wars will be needed to secure peace and close down a base or two?
Quote from: K_Dubb on October 29, 2022, 01:03:11 PMAll the wars! This one worked out so well we tried our best to provoke China by sending Pelosi to Taiwan to bleed the PLA on their own tarbaby but they didn't bite We will not stop until the whole world is transgender 🥳
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on October 29, 2022, 01:30:42 PMYou might want to watch the video above for a real assessment of how it's going.
Quote from: WOTR on October 29, 2022, 01:22:20 PM*BTW, do you keep the bust of Stalin on your mantle during these trying / unprecedented times? It must be difficult to be torn between the anti-Russia / pro-communist narratives you presently find yourself faced with.
Quote from: K_Dubb on October 29, 2022, 01:39:43 PMI'm not watching that, Jimmy Bore just repeats what he read on Pravda, pure Russian USA is always the bad guy bullshit
Quote from: K_Dubb on October 29, 2022, 01:41:57 PMNo Stalin bust but I do find the old China-Russia communist solidarity posters inspiring
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on October 29, 2022, 01:42:32 PMIt's not even Dore. He's off right now. They have US military analyst on spewing the hate instead.
Quote from: K_Dubb on October 29, 2022, 01:51:09 PMScott Ritter is a pedo.
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on October 29, 2022, 01:51:52 PMSo are you.
Quote from: WOTR on October 29, 2022, 06:36:56 PMI had looked up Mate's wiki page some time back and just looked again to find out what journalistic award he won... Wow had it ever changed. I had not realized that he was a Putin puppet, reported only favourably on authoritarian regimes, and is paid to do reporting on conspiracy theories and to make Assad look good.**Until reading his page, I was unaware of how many smears you can actually cram into a few paragraphs on a website.
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on October 29, 2022, 06:43:05 PMWikipedia?
Quote from: K_Dubb on October 29, 2022, 08:48:12 AMDon't buy it. They are not "peace at any price" or pacifist in the least. They would prefer the military be used internally to prop up their god and suppress dissent. A lot of them actually believed the generals would come in on their side, including the Great Trumpkin himself. They are tankies, just like Poo Tin.Now the military is woke and vaxxed and transgender so it is no use to them and they hate it but is only because they can't use it on us.
Quote from: WOTR on October 29, 2022, 06:46:50 PMI will say that since Putin committed a terrorist act against his own pipeline and contributed to crippling his economy, the pay has been reduced. But it is still well worth listening to Pud and Shreddie accuse you of being a "Putin puppet." They should see the Bugatti parked in my drive.
Quote from: WOTR on October 29, 2022, 12:17:02 PMGenerally, I don't attribute the trait of stupidity to you. So I have to assume that you are purposely trying to twist things and just failing rather than honestly not grasping what is written. I didn't call for a referendum. I called on at least one member of the government to say what probably 30% of the population is thinking. (Fine- say 20%... Or even only 10% who would like the war to end. No matter the number, somebody should represent those voices.)I didn't call on the representatives to negotiate a peace deal themselves. I said that asking for a change in policy is reasonable.Are you willing to follow your own advice if Trump is elected again? You will just say that he is elected and everybody should kowtow to his whims until the next election? Elected representatives should not protest or disagree with his policies, because he is the "boss?" A final, honest question for you. Are you willing to send your children or nephews or grandchildren to fight in this war? Is it actually worth a personal sacrifice to you- or just worth the sacrifices of others?
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on October 29, 2022, 12:40:04 PMI missed this projected admission of pedophelia on your part earlier.
Quote from: WOTR on October 30, 2022, 12:40:29 AMThe funny thing about the situation is that it would now be me, MD, Aldous and a few other far right BG posters out protesting war at Kent state and it would be the woke, transgender, purple haired "them" in the national guard who shoots us. I keep saying that the rolls have reversed- only the new left still hold on to the belief that they have the same values as the hippies and are "good" instead of looking in the mirror at the reflection of Nixon.*Did you know that Lennon was a Khrushchev's Klown? Can you imagine him not understanding that if we didn't stop Russia and communism in Vietnam we would all be calling each other comrade? Give peace a chance... And allow Russia to take the whole of Vietnam Ukraine? Hear. Muzak to cheer the next decade of wars on.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEX7Xxfr-qc
Quote from: K_Dubb on October 29, 2022, 09:52:53 AMAlso the earth is flat, because all science since the Greeks has been in the grip of the globalist cabal. Globe-alist, get it? Wake Up goober !!!Russian propaganda is not specific content, it is the thing you are doing. Everything that makes you look bad is fake while your enemies are literally Satan and eat babies. No waiting to see when a new story comes up, just spin spin spin, throw it out there and see what sticks. You know where this stuff comes from, it is a crowd-sourced bullshit generator think tank, fun to see it in action, who bites, how high up the media they can get their theories repeated, what they guess right.Not unique to Russia, that is how propaganda has always worked, Russia is just balls deep in it and has been forever while Western press at least tried for a hundred years or so since the yellow-journalism era to get things right.It doesn't ultimately matter whether it is right or not, they are exploiting the delays inherent in the official system and by the time some bureaucracy gets its story straight and puts out something reliable, most people's attention has moved on.
Quote from: SredniVashtar on October 30, 2022, 09:45:42 AMIt's no coincidence that Putin is a judo black belt (I can imagine MD swooning as he imagines a naked Putin putting him into a variety of nutsack-nuzzling holds), and they are all about using your opponent's strength against you. They've totally lost any understanding of who the enemy is now. They spend all their waking hours watching Tucker Carlson and yelling at clouds.