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Things I Wish Trump Had Done While In Power But Didn’t

Started by Dr. MD MD, January 07, 2021, 05:46:38 PM

Dr. MD MD

1. Taken great effort to reign in the power of the MSM and Silicon Valley. We all know they’re straight up propagandists now who’s interests are with our enemies and against the US constitution.

I’ll add more as I think of them. Feel free to do the same.


Innerreach

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 07, 2021, 05:46:38 PM
1. Taken great effort to reign in the power of the MSM and Silicon Valley. We all know they’re straight up propagandists now who’s interests are with our enemies and against the US constitution.

I’ll add more as I think of them. Feel free to do the same.

He'll have another 4 years to do all this. ::)

albrecht

2) Read more, learned about some history. 
3) Was more careful in picking people for his Cabinet and appointees for various agencies  4) Assumed people Inside the Beltway, and family of a certain 'tribal' bent, actually want what is good for our country.
5) Been more circumspect when tweeting on every issue and quickly
6) Got more sleep, ate healthier food
7) Actually DID things, not just talk, when he could have based on precedent and law on the open border, bringing more troops back, taking on the terrorists taking on cops and burning our cities and communities, more veto of crazy spending bills, etc.)

These are in no particular order and this is coming from a position that considering the whole establishment and their media was against him he did some good things, especially without being a politician or knowing civics. (This assumes, of course, that my initial suspicion wasn't true- that his intent was disruption and possibly even a Democrat/Commie plant due to his NYC and Hollywood connections.  ;)

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: albrecht on January 07, 2021, 06:23:38 PM
2) Read more, learned about some history. 
3) Was more careful in picking people for his Cabinet and appointees for various agencies  4) Assumed people Inside the Beltway, and family of a certain 'tribal' bent, actually want what is good for our country.
5) Been more circumspect when tweeting on every issue and quickly
6) Got more sleep, ate healthier food
7) Actually DID things, not just talk, when he could have based on precedent and law on the open border, bringing more troops back, taking on the terrorists taking on cops and burning our cities and communities, more veto of crazy spending bills, etc.)

These are in no particular order and this is coming from a position that considering the whole establishment and their media was against him he did some good things, especially without being a politician or knowing civics. (This assumes, of course, that my initial suspicion wasn't true- that his intent was disruption and possibly even a Democrat/Commie plant due to his NYC and Hollywood connections.  ;) )

4 is highly dubious. You think those people actually exist within the beltway?

K_Dubb

Quote from: albrecht on January 07, 2021, 06:23:38 PM
(This assumes, of course, that my initial suspicion wasn't true- that his intent was disruption and possibly even a Democrat/Commie plant due to his NYC and Hollywood connections.  ;) )

Even if he were, it could hardly have been any worse for the cause of populist nationalism.  We will be lucky if it is not disgraced for an entire generation.

Pretty good list so far. I'd add:

- Kept hammering at companies that offshore jobs. That dried up quickly. Not that much would change at the end of the day but it's a great issue that almost no other pol would take.
- Taken more credit for pushing the NATO members to at least come a little closer to meeting their treaty commitments. Same deal. You can't argue against it but no other pol is gonna take that stand.

ItsOver

Quite frankly, he was facing mission impossible.  Unless the federal government is completely restructured, minimized, and decentralized, it will remain a creature who’s primary interest is it’s own preservation and aggrandizement.  This wasn’t and isn’t going to happen.  Now that the Dems and their puppet masters have control, this will only accelerate.   D.C. and Puerto Rico as states will lock down the Senate, Schumer will expand the SCOTUS to shift it’s balance, and they’ll do everything thing they can to retain the House, and they know they have to act fast, within the next two years.  Open borders, more election “changes,” more “refugees,” etc. 

Sadly, I sense things will get much worse before anything is turned around, if ever.  I wish it was different but it is what it is.


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: K_Dubb on January 07, 2021, 06:36:23 PM
Even if he were, it could hardly have been any worse for the cause of populist nationalism.  We will be lucky if it is not disgraced for an entire generation.

I see it quite differently. There was hardly a populist/nationalist movement before Trump and now there is. Also, the really disgraceful thing is the behavior of the people you vote for and the fact that they are allowed to get away with it.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: ItsOver on January 07, 2021, 06:45:28 PM
Quite frankly, he was facing mission impossible.  Unless the federal government is completely restructured, minimized, and decentralized, it will remain a creature who’s primary interest is it’s own preservation and aggrandizement.  This wasn’t and isn’t going to happen.  Now that the Dems and their puppet masters have control, this will only accelerate.   D.C. and Puerto Rico as states will lock down the Senate, Schumer will expand the SCOTUS to shift it’s balance, and they’ll do everything thing they can to retain the House, and they know they have to act fast, within the next two years.  Open borders, more election “changes,” more “refugees,” etc. 

Sadly, I sense things will get much worse before anything is turned around, if ever.  I wish it was different but it is what it is.


albrecht

Quote from: K_Dubb on January 07, 2021, 06:36:23 PM
Even if he were, it could hardly have been any worse for the cause of populist nationalism.  We will be lucky if it is not disgraced for an entire generation.
Just nationalism, of any sort. Not just so-called 'populist nationalism.' Well, maybe if it comes from the East and becomes global. But already you see their media talking about what other countries think of us, how authoritarian countries have handled Corona-Chan 'so much better' (even when they made it, naturally or purposefully,) and always those themes about how a democracy/republic cannot compete and since people often make illogical choices they can't be trusted because there are global concerns. And there is only one country in the world, a fairly new creation, of old, that is allowed to have borders and identity. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZpaWOLjWx0



K_Dubb

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 07, 2021, 06:56:48 PM
I see it quite differently. There was hardly a populist/nationalist movement before Trump and now there is. Also, the really disgraceful thing is the behavior of the people you vote for and the fact that they are allowed to get away with it.

Right, so you take a bunch of populist, anti-elitist, nationalist positions that initially polled really well and associate them in the common mind with drooling idiots and far-right nutjobs and start summoning the spectre of armed revolt.  I am leaning more toward albrecht's suspicions by the day.

https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/americans-used-support-border-wall-what-changed-their-minds


K_Dubb

Quote from: albrecht on January 07, 2021, 07:08:15 PM
Just nationalism, of any sort. Not just so-called 'populist nationalism.' Well, maybe if it comes from the East and becomes global. But already you see their media talking about what other countries think of us, how authoritarian countries have handled Corona-Chan 'so much better' (even when they made it, naturally or purposefully,) and always those themes about how a democracy/republic cannot compete and since people often make illogical choices they can't be trusted because there are global concerns. And there is only one country in the world, a fairly new creation, of old, that is allowed to have borders and identity. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZpaWOLjWx0

Yeah except he was the most overly pro-Israel president in living memory, mostly to appease his Fundie base, and that part of the platform is likely to suffer, too.


albrecht

Quote from: K_Dubb on January 07, 2021, 07:22:13 PM
Yeah except he was the most overly pro-Israel president in living memory, mostly to appease his Fundie base, and that part of the platform is likely to suffer, too.
See my previous reply. Don't forget also there are disputes between Tribes and also a long tradition of 'moving on' once some goals or wealth has been fulfilled, or the rare circumstance when they figure they need to get out of Dodge.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: K_Dubb on January 07, 2021, 07:16:06 PM
Right, so you take a bunch of populist, anti-elitist, nationalist positions that initially polled really well and associate them in the common mind with drooling idiots and far-right nutjobs and start summoning the spectre of armed revolt.  I am leaning more toward albrecht's suspicions by the day.

https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/americans-used-support-border-wall-what-changed-their-minds

Sorry but your side actually were violently attacking innocent people and being allowed to by the “authorities.” Yes, I’d say this calls for an armed revolt because we only have to look to “normal” history to know where this kind of thing ends up with socialists and communists thugs and bullies. And ALL socialists and communists are that by definition.







When the people fear the government, there’s tyranny. When the government fears the people, there’s liberty. â€" Thomas Jefferson

K_Dubb

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 07, 2021, 07:24:58 PM
Sorry but your side actually were violently attacking innocent people and being allowed to by the “authorities.” Yes, I’d say this calls for an armed revolt because we only have to look to “normal” history to know where this kind of thing ends up with socialists and communists thugs and bullies. And ALL socialists and communists are that by definition.







When the people fear the government, there’s tyranny. When the government fears the people, there’s liberty. â€" Thomas Jefferson

And yet when you have a perfect hot drooling idiot of a Patriot literally waving a Migration Period leaf-headed spear in the halls of Congress, you want to disown him.



Sad.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: K_Dubb on January 07, 2021, 07:44:23 PM
And yet when you have a perfect hot drooling idiot of a Patriot literally waving a Migration Period leaf-head spear in the halls of Congress, you want to disown him.



Sad.

Only because he’s an Antifa plant. You have my blessings to persue a romantic relationship with him though because all Antifa types are gay.

WOTR

My major wish on this list? Audit / dismantle the Fed. Of course, it would destroy his wealth (based on debt) and that of his billionaire friends. But that really was it.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: WOTR on January 07, 2021, 08:07:28 PM
My major wish on this list? Audit / dismantle the Fed. Of course, it would destroy his wealth (based on debt) and that of his billionaire friends. But that really was it.

Yeah, that’s the real crux of the biscuit, isn’t it?


Gd5150

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 07, 2021, 05:46:38 PM
1. Taken great effort to reign in the power of the MSM and Silicon Valley. We all know they’re straight up propagandists now who’s interests are with our enemies and against the US constitution.

I’ll add more as I think of them. Feel free to do the same.

Agreed. The problem is how does one do this without trampling the 1st amendment. The rise of alternative real news sources will help. More competition. Silicon Valley is a much bigger problem that Congress needs to address. Doubt they will as long as the money keep rolling in.

Our government is lost.

Quote from: K_Dubb on January 07, 2021, 07:44:23 PM
And yet when you have a perfect hot drooling idiot of a Patriot literally waving a Migration Period leaf-headed spear in the halls of Congress, you want to disown him.



Sad.

Not me. I love this guy. Legend.

K_Dubb

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on January 07, 2021, 07:45:51 PM
Only because he’s an Antifa plant. You have my blessings to persue a romantic relationship with him though because all Antifa types are gay.

https://twitter.com/megnotastallion/status/1347167438715162626


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Gd5150 on January 07, 2021, 08:39:29 PM
Agreed. The problem is how does one do this without trampling the 1st amendment. The rise of alternative real news sources will help. More competition. Silicon Valley is a much bigger problem that Congress needs to address. Doubt they will as long as the money keep rolling in.

Our government is lost.

Decades ago when there primarily only the big three networks I believe there was a broadcast law that the news always had to present an opposing viewpoint if it engaged in opinions and drawing conclusions. Al can correct me if I’m wrong. I also know that most conservatives were against this and I think I understand some of the reasons why but how about now that we are where we are? Do you think it would be a good idea to return to this now that conservative opinion is being suppressed if not made illegal?




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