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Quote from: K_Dubb on February 16, 2021, 11:17:29 AMthe virus is new -- hence "novel".
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 16, 2021, 09:54:40 AMAnd what about when the vaccine doesnâ€™t protect you from the next variant or the one after that? Vaccines 4 life?
Quote from: K_Dubb on February 16, 2021, 10:40:55 AMHere doc in case Salty or Doug Tenaple don't get around to covering this subject, I just read an article that addresses this:https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/02/antibody-evolution/618004/Some companies are working on specific vaccines for each variant, likely to position themselves in case one becomes the dominant strain. I understand right there is a "very small probability" it will need to be a new vaccine every year like the flu, given to vulnerable people and health-care workers, most of whom get an annual shot anyway.
Quote from: paladin1991 on February 16, 2021, 11:27:34 AMWell, 'burning ring of fire' huh? Must take him back to his days in prison. Back when Bubba and the fellas used and abused our stalwart hero. A spit roasting if I recall.
Quote from: Jackstar on February 16, 2021, 10:58:24 AMNeedles. Personally, I eschew all vax, except for tetanus. That one seems reasonable. However, I believe the problem is the manufacturing protocols. I do not think the "RFID mind control chip vaccine" meme is an impossibility. At the minimum, who knows? At the maximum, why contain it? Let it spill over the schools and churches, let the bodies pile up in the streets. In the end they'll beg us to save them.Mom talked me into the flu shot twice. The first time, I got sick. "Mom, what the fuck?" Grumble grumble grumble. The second time: "Hey, Jesus, tell you what, I will fix my immune system, while You tell my mother to fuck right off." I think He ended up handling both of those after some further deep contemplation in heavy prayer, which at that time (90s), meant consuming vast quantities of my own semen. As much as could be possible for A Disciplined And Superior Man. A Self-Made Man. An Actualized Man. I didn't have a protocol at that point. I never really understood why I would want to live very long at that age anyway, but I figured if my immune system couldn't handle the flu, well, fuck it, just let it shoot me deadly.Yes, it's true: I consider my own semen to be much more effective medicine than a flu shot. No needles required--but I'm going to need a minute alone, Boys.
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 16, 2021, 11:01:00 AMWhat flu? Have you not noticed that flu morbidity is almost non-existent this past year along with other morbidities like heart disease? People only die from covid now. :
Quote from: K_Dubb on February 16, 2021, 11:17:29 AMThere is no objective truth here, people are all guessing because the virus is new -- hence "novel". So are the vaccines. But my particular bias is toward sources that tell people to Calm The Fuck Down because that is rare in both MSM and alt-media.
Quote from: paladin1991 on February 16, 2021, 11:42:21 AMKinda like this? With the chicks laughing at you
Quote from: K_Dubb on February 16, 2021, 11:22:35 AMHardly surprising if people are staying away from each other and sanitizing like crazy fools. There is some funny stuff going on with death rates for some causes but, so long as the deaths attributed to covid are closely matching the "excess deaths" (more deaths than average) for the past year, covid is the likely reason since that is what is different.
Quote from: paladin1991 on February 16, 2021, 11:33:12 AMI gotta ask. What is a 'small probability?' One in a million is not the same as one in a thousand.
Quote from: K_Dubb on February 16, 2021, 11:57:29 AMHell I would be happy with something less than 50:50. But even if it required a new vaccine every year like the flu, that is manageable and not that different from what we are doing now.I used to have to get the flu shot every year working (only tangentially) for a large hospital and never had a problem. But with covid you have a lot of people who never thought of getting a vaccine before wondering if they should, and you have people like doc who (rather surprisingly for a medical man) don't understand how vaccines work -- they are intended to trigger an immune response to get you to manufacture antibodies, and for some people that includes other elements like fever which we call "sick" but are really just your body heating up to kill off viruses. That's why medical people who know don't take aspirin or other fever-breakers since that is shooting yourself in the foot.
Quote from: paladin1991 on February 16, 2021, 11:48:55 AMSo next year, when numbers drop due to Covid having fired up all those ppl with comorbidities, what is the excuse going to be then for vaxxing? "It's for the children!?!?!?"All those poor bastards that would die next year are already dead. I know, I shouldn't worry, there will be another crisis to 'work' then.
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 16, 2021, 11:48:25 AMYouâ€™ll believe anything they tell you. :
Quote from: Stellar on February 16, 2021, 12:10:28 PMthere's no global conspiracy
Quote from: Stellar on February 16, 2021, 12:10:28 PMAll you fucking babies get your vaccine and your done now fuck off.I have it done round two soon there's no global conspiracy get a fucking life ok. NOw fuck off.
Quote from: ItsOver on February 16, 2021, 11:33:19 AMI can see a video of Senda running around, grimacing with his â€œring of fire,â€ with Johnny playing.https://youtu.be/It7107ELQvY
Quote from: whoozit on February 16, 2021, 12:36:57 PMI agree there is no global conspiracy, but there is a slightly tested â€œvaccineâ€ using a new technology that may or may not give you immunity for 3-6 months unless it doesnâ€™t. Do some research on earlier animal experiments with this technology, they are sobering. I will admit that if we get a handle on this technology it could eliminate a lot of horrible disease but I prefer not to be an early adopter. Who voted you the arbiter of what is real and what is conspiracy?
Quote from: K_Dubb on February 16, 2021, 12:06:08 PMLet's go through the beliefs you have had to abandon -- the virus will go away with the election, forced vaccinations, Bill Gates microchipping people hahaha goobers will be goobers.
Quote from: Walks_At_Night on February 16, 2021, 12:31:37 PMLoL. That would be classic. For his next round he said that he is gonna get booze and sleeping pills. What could go wrong?
Quote from: ItsOver on February 16, 2021, 12:41:11 PMHereâ€™s another Docâ€™s discussion about the Corona Chan mRNA jabs. Seems rational.https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/02/a_doctors_view_about_the_new_mrna_vaccines.html
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 16, 2021, 12:46:12 PMThe virus is going away for all intents and purposes. And it started happening as soon as Biden was confirmed. Go back to sleep. :
Quote from: K_Dubb on February 16, 2021, 12:59:57 PMI have no problem being a guinea pig
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 16, 2021, 01:01:26 PMThatâ€™s obvious.
Quote from: K_Dubb on February 16, 2021, 12:56:39 PMNew cases, which are testing-dependent, have fallen off dramatically but deaths have not. And now the great bulk of both cases and deaths have occurred since the election. I don't get trying to tie it to Biden's "confirmation" -- were they hoping the fat maskless Republican elector chuds would drop dead before the vote?