VAXXED!!!! Who will it be?

Started by paladin1991, December 17, 2020, 09:36:46 PM

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Jackstar

Quote from: K_Dubb on February 16, 2021, 11:17:29 AM
the virus is new -- hence "novel". 

I read that, in the USA Today, every time the new virus isolated, every single time, it always has that same "new virus smell." Like it just drove off the lot! Every. Single. Time. That's how they know they got a live one.

paladin1991

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 16, 2021, 09:54:40 AM
And what about when the vaccine doesn’t protect you from the next variant or the one after that? Vaccines 4 life?

It's a personal choice, Doc.  I will allow anyone to take the vaxx, even though I think they are being used.  It's their choice.  At least, currently, ppl have a choice in taking it.*shrug*  If Steve decides to take the vaxx, more power to him.  I don't agree with it, though. 

paladin1991

Quote from: K_Dubb on February 16, 2021, 10:40:55 AM
Here doc in case Salty or Doug Tenaple don't get around to covering this subject, I just read an article that addresses this:

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/02/antibody-evolution/618004/

Some companies are working on specific vaccines for each variant, likely to position themselves in case one becomes the dominant strain.   I understand right there is a "very small probability" it will need to be a new vaccine every year like the flu, given to vulnerable people and health-care workers, most of whom get an annual shot anyway.

I gotta ask.  What is a 'small probability?'  One in a million is not the same as one in a thousand.

ItsOver

Quote from: paladin1991 on February 16, 2021, 11:27:34 AM
Well, 'burning ring of fire' huh?   Must take him back to his days in prison.  Back when Bubba and the fellas used and abused our stalwart hero.  A spit roasting if I recall.
I can see a video of Senda running around, grimacing with his “ring of fire,” with Johnny playing.

https://youtu.be/It7107ELQvY

paladin1991

Quote from: Jackstar on February 16, 2021, 10:58:24 AM
Needles. Personally, I eschew all vax, except for tetanus. That one seems reasonable. However, I believe the problem is the manufacturing protocols. I do not think the "RFID mind control chip vaccine" meme is an impossibility. At the minimum, who knows? At the maximum, why contain it? Let it spill over the schools and churches, let the bodies pile up in the streets. In the end they'll beg us to save them.

Mom talked me into the flu shot twice. The first time, I got sick. "Mom, what the fuck?" Grumble grumble grumble. The second time: "Hey, Jesus, tell you what, I will fix my immune system, while You tell my mother to fuck right off." I think He ended up handling both of those after some further deep contemplation in heavy prayer, which at that time (90s), meant consuming vast quantities of my own semen. As much as could be possible for A Disciplined And Superior Man. A Self-Made Man. An Actualized Man. I didn't have a protocol at that point. I never really understood why I would want to live very long at that age anyway, but I figured if my immune system couldn't handle the flu, well, fuck it, just let it shoot me deadly.


Yes, it's true: I consider my own semen to be much more effective medicine than a flu shot. No needles required--but I'm going to need a minute alone, Boys.

Kinda like this?  With the chicks laughing at you, yeah, i guess a minute alone would be better.
https://youtu.be/D88irZVC-mg

paladin1991

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 16, 2021, 11:01:00 AM
What flu? Have you not noticed that flu morbidity is almost non-existent this past year along with other morbidities like heart disease? People only die from covid now. ::)

Ainlt the truth.  488 thousand Americans died of heart disease during this pandemic.  Where is the outrage?  Where is the fear?

paladin1991

Quote from: K_Dubb on February 16, 2021, 11:17:29 AM
There is no objective truth here, people are all guessing because the virus is new -- hence "novel".  So are the vaccines.  But my particular bias is toward sources that tell people to Calm The Fuck Down because that is rare in both MSM and alt-media.

And amazing how fast 'they' created a vaxx.  When 'they' can't create a vaxx against little old colds, cancer, stubbed toes.  You know, shit that has been around forever


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: K_Dubb on February 16, 2021, 11:22:35 AM
Hardly surprising if people are staying away from each other and sanitizing like crazy fools.  There is some funny stuff going on with death rates for some causes but, so long as the deaths attributed to covid are closely matching the "excess deaths" (more deaths than average) for the past year, covid is the likely reason since that is what is different.

You’ll believe anything they tell you. ::)

paladin1991

Quote from: K_Dubb on February 16, 2021, 11:22:35 AM
Hardly surprising if people are staying away from each other and sanitizing like crazy fools.  There is some funny stuff going on with death rates for some causes but, so long as the deaths attributed to covid are closely matching the "excess deaths" (more deaths than average) for the past year, covid is the likely reason since that is what is different.

So next year, when numbers drop due to Covid having fired up all those ppl with comorbidities, what is the excuse going to be then for vaxxing?  "It's for the children!?!?!?"

All those poor bastards that would die next year are already dead.  I know, I shouldn't worry, there will be another crisis to 'work' then.

K_Dubb

Quote from: paladin1991 on February 16, 2021, 11:33:12 AM
I gotta ask.  What is a 'small probability?'  One in a million is not the same as one in a thousand.

Hell I would be happy with something less than 50:50.  But even if it required a new vaccine every year like the flu, that is manageable and not that different from what we are doing now.

I used to have to get the flu shot every year working (only tangentially) for a large hospital and never had a problem.  But with covid you have a lot of people who never thought of getting a vaccine before wondering if they should, and you have people like doc who (rather surprisingly for a medical man) don't understand how vaccines work -- they are intended to trigger an immune response to get you to manufacture antibodies, and for some people that includes other elements like fever which we call "sick" but are really just your body heating up to kill off viruses.  That's why medical people who know don't take aspirin or other fever-breakers since that is shooting yourself in the foot.

paladin1991

Quote from: K_Dubb on February 16, 2021, 11:57:29 AM
Hell I would be happy with something less than 50:50.  But even if it required a new vaccine every year like the flu, that is manageable and not that different from what we are doing now.

I used to have to get the flu shot every year working (only tangentially) for a large hospital and never had a problem.  But with covid you have a lot of people who never thought of getting a vaccine before wondering if they should, and you have people like doc who (rather surprisingly for a medical man) don't understand how vaccines work -- they are intended to trigger an immune response to get you to manufacture antibodies, and for some people that includes other elements like fever which we call "sick" but are really just your body heating up to kill off viruses.  That's why medical people who know don't take aspirin or other fever-breakers since that is shooting yourself in the foot.

Well, in the doc's defense, he is a dick.  doctor.   And his greatest concern is that he might have to administer the vaxx orally, fm his mouth to your crank.

K_Dubb

Quote from: paladin1991 on February 16, 2021, 11:48:55 AM
So next year, when numbers drop due to Covid having fired up all those ppl with comorbidities, what is the excuse going to be then for vaxxing?  "It's for the children!?!?!?"

All those poor bastards that would die next year are already dead.  I know, I shouldn't worry, there will be another crisis to 'work' then.

Well yeah I think you can expect the companies who make vaccines to continue to try to sell them just like other medications by panicking people with advertising, since we are still very much a free-market health system and caveat emptor.

K_Dubb

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 16, 2021, 11:48:25 AM
You’ll believe anything they tell you. ::)

Let's go through the beliefs you have had to abandon -- the virus will go away with the election, forced vaccinations, Bill Gates microchipping people hahaha goobers will be goobers.

Stellar


All you fucking babies get your vaccine and your done now fuck off.

I have it done round two soon there's no global conspiracy get a fucking life ok.  NOw fuck off.

Jackstar

Quote from: Stellar on February 16, 2021, 12:10:28 PM
there's no global conspiracy

Oh, yeah, sure, right: God & Jesus & I are ONLY serving Humanity. Right. Who would ever believe that? It's simply not plausible that any of the three of us would ever lift a finger unless we were getting a piece for ourselves.

K_Dubb

Quote from: Stellar on February 16, 2021, 12:10:28 PM
All you fucking babies get your vaccine and your done now fuck off.

I have it done round two soon there's no global conspiracy get a fucking life ok.  NOw fuck off.

Haha I would but I am so far down the list the state hasn't even named what vaccine phase I am in, just a ...future phases.  I will be lucky to get it this year.

Let us know when Jacky's nanobots start crawling out of your butt.

Quote from: ItsOver on February 16, 2021, 11:33:19 AM
I can see a video of Senda running around, grimacing with his “ring of fire,” with Johnny playing.

https://youtu.be/It7107ELQvY

LoL. That would be classic.  For his next round he said that he is gonna get booze and sleeping pills. What could go wrong?

whoozit

Quote from: Stellar on February 16, 2021, 12:10:28 PM
All you fucking babies get your vaccine and your done now fuck off.

I have it done round two soon there's no global conspiracy get a fucking life ok.  NOw fuck off.
I agree there is no global conspiracy, but there is a slightly tested “vaccine” using a new technology that may or may not give you immunity for 3-6 months unless it doesn’t.   Do some research on earlier animal experiments with this technology, they are sobering.  I will admit that if we get a handle on this technology it could eliminate a lot of horrible disease but I prefer not to be an early adopter.  Who voted you the arbiter of what is real and what is conspiracy?

ItsOver

Quote from: whoozit on February 16, 2021, 12:36:57 PM
I agree there is no global conspiracy, but there is a slightly tested “vaccine” using a new technology that may or may not give you immunity for 3-6 months unless it doesn’t.   Do some research on earlier animal experiments with this technology, they are sobering.  I will admit that if we get a handle on this technology it could eliminate a lot of horrible disease but I prefer not to be an early adopter.  Who voted you the arbiter of what is real and what is conspiracy?
Here’s another Doc’s discussion about the Corona Chan mRNA jabs.  Seems rational.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/02/a_doctors_view_about_the_new_mrna_vaccines.html

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: K_Dubb on February 16, 2021, 11:57:29 AM
Hell I would be happy with something less than 50:50.  But even if it required a new vaccine every year like the flu, that is manageable and not that different from what we are doing now.

I used to have to get the flu shot every year working (only tangentially) for a large hospital and never had a problem.  But with covid you have a lot of people who never thought of getting a vaccine before wondering if they should, and you have people like doc who (rather surprisingly for a medical man) don't understand how vaccines work -- they are intended to trigger an immune response to get you to manufacture antibodies, and for some people that includes other elements like fever which we call "sick" but are really just your body heating up to kill off viruses.  That's why medical people who know don't take aspirin or other fever-breakers since that is shooting yourself in the foot.

Oh, gee! Thanks for explaining to us all how vaccine work, sparky but you’re wrong...AGAIN! This is not a standard vaccine, you dolt. This is why a little PBS can be a dangerous thing to people who think they’re intelligent. ::)

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: K_Dubb on February 16, 2021, 12:06:08 PM
Let's go through the beliefs you have had to abandon -- the virus will go away with the election, forced vaccinations, Bill Gates microchipping people hahaha goobers will be goobers.

The virus is going away for all intents and purposes. And it started happening as soon as Biden was confirmed. As for the other stuff it hasn’t happened...yet. Go back to sleep. ::)

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: whoozit on February 16, 2021, 12:36:57 PM
I agree there is no global conspiracy, but there is a slightly tested “vaccine” using a new technology that may or may not give you immunity for 3-6 months unless it doesn’t.   Do some research on earlier animal experiments with this technology, they are sobering.  I will admit that if we get a handle on this technology it could eliminate a lot of horrible disease but I prefer not to be an early adopter.  Who voted you the arbiter of what is real and what is conspiracy?


ItsOver

Quote from: Walks_At_Night on February 16, 2021, 12:31:37 PM
LoL. That would be classic.  For his next round he said that he is gonna get booze and sleeping pills. What could go wrong?
Ha!  The Jab, with a booze and sleeping pills chaser.  Yeah, that should work well.  ::)  He should just order an extra large pepperoni pizza, extra cheese, to put himself into a bloated haze. ;)

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: ItsOver on February 16, 2021, 12:41:11 PM
Here’s another Doc’s discussion about the Corona Chan mRNA jabs.  Seems rational.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/02/a_doctors_view_about_the_new_mrna_vaccines.html

There have been plenty of doctors who’ve spoken out about this farce and all of them have been silenced in one way or another...but I’m just a conspiracy theorist or so braindead idiots like K_Dudd and schizo would have you believe. Obsiqiuous establishment ass-munchers! ::)

K_Dubb

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on February 16, 2021, 12:46:12 PM
The virus is going away for all intents and purposes. And it started happening as soon as Biden was confirmed. Go back to sleep. ::)

New cases, which are testing-dependent, have fallen off dramatically but deaths have not.  And now the great bulk of both cases and deaths have occurred since the election.  I don't get trying to tie it to Biden's "confirmation" -- were they hoping the fat maskless Republican elector chuds would drop dead before the vote?

K_Dubb

Quote from: ItsOver on February 16, 2021, 12:41:11 PM
Here’s another Doc’s discussion about the Corona Chan mRNA jabs.  Seems rational.

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2021/02/a_doctors_view_about_the_new_mrna_vaccines.html

Thanks, that does seem rational.  I have no problem being a guinea pig, when I worked for the hospital you could volunteer for studies all the time for gift cards, it was sweet.


K_Dubb


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: K_Dubb on February 16, 2021, 12:56:39 PM
New cases, which are testing-dependent, have fallen off dramatically but deaths have not.  And now the great bulk of both cases and deaths have occurred since the election.  I don't get trying to tie it to Biden's "confirmation" -- were they hoping the fat maskless Republican elector chuds would drop dead before the vote?

No, you idiot. Covid was used to change election procedures and laws (mail-in voting) so that your globalists could steal the election. Now that’s done and so is this covid op. They will keep it going to some degree for control purposes though. Then they can just wheel it back out whenever they need to. Like, for example, if we start thinking for ourselves too much and start asking too many inconvenient questions.

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