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Seamus Capone

Quote from: Eddie Coyle on June 12, 2011, 03:14:07 AM
When I hear him spouting that awful cliche, "Social Justice", I picture Ian singing a medley of "We Shall Overcome"/"Blowin' in the Wind"/"Get Together" whilst protesting for the latest Ed Asner approved cause celebre.

Ed will attend a tribute hosted by Sean Penn and Danny Glover.

Penn Voice: "Tonight, we honor a man who brought social justice to an oppressed people."
Glover Voice: "Please show some love for my main comrade, Mr. Fidel Castro!"

Bono sings his version of "Waiting on the World to Change" as Tim Robbins wheels the geriatric Cuban commie onto the stage. 

Seamus Capone

Quote from: valdez on June 12, 2011, 06:08:29 AM
Ian also greeted his first guest, Captain Kelly Sweeney, with a hearty "ahoy".  Something that has yet to occur to George.

That's not really suprising. Noory likely would thank Captain Kangaroo for his service.

Eddie Coyle

Quote from: Jackpine Savage on June 12, 2011, 03:42:53 AM
I'm shocked! SHOCKED I tells ya! Ian not only failed to mention the rampant historic antisemitism in the Catholic church, a caller also used the term "shyster" when referring to LAWYERS and Ian said nothing. He must be slipping. Ian, your membership to the Social Justice League is in jeopardy. Hopefully someone will hang a noose made of dental floss from someone's doorknob, and Ian will have a chance to redeem himself.

   Next thing you know, Ian will be carving swastikas into his forehead,labeling his sons "Berserkers" and leading a pogrom in Minneapolis. From tiny acorns...

Remember the USS Liberty!

Seamus Capone

Am I hearing things? Is Punnett interviewing the Numbers Lady about political rogues and scandals? Fortunately, the wiener jokes have been kept in check. Ian even said, "let's grab Rod (a caller)", without laughing.

valdez

Quote from: Jethro Capone on June 18, 2011, 11:49:51 PM
Am I hearing things? Is Punnett interviewing the Numbers Lady about political rogues and scandals?

     It was odd to hear them both on together.  They seem to be so different, and I know Ian doesn't buy into that numbers stuff.  Later Douglas Kenrick talked about sex and murder and sex. Ian also showed his respect for the passing of Clarence Clemons.  Big Springsteen fan here.  Although his politics can tick me off, I've yet to burn any of his albums.  The Big Man and his sax will be missed.


Seamus Capone

Quote from: valdez on June 19, 2011, 05:29:19 AM
It was odd to hear them both on together.  They seem to be so different, and I know Ian doesn't buy into that numbers stuff.  Later Douglas Kenrick talked about sex and murder and sex. Ian also showed his respect for the passing of Clarence Clemons.  Big Springsteen fan here.  Although his politics can tick me off, I've yet to burn any of his albums.  The Big Man and his sax will be missed.

To Ian's credit, he said that he would mention her good calls, as well as her "wrong numbers". He gave her a high five for one of her correct numerological forecasts.

Yep, Clemons was to Springsteen what Richards was to Jagger. Bruce wouldn't have been on the covers of both Time and Newsweek if it wasn't for the Big Man and his big sax.

It's obvious that hosts are no longer picking their own guests, which is, I think, one of the reasons why Knapp and Ian's momentum has dropped recently and they both apparently have less patience with callers and listeners in general.

If this is the case, why would Premiere enforce this kind of decision? It seems to me that the show is most dynamic when each of the hosts is allowed to operate and investigate "the strange" individually rather than arbitrarily imposing a mandate on all of them to unify the direction of the show as a whole.

Fail.

anagrammy

Quote from: Agent : Orange on June 20, 2011, 02:33:24 AM
It's obvious that hosts are no longer picking their own guests, which is, I think, one of the reasons why Knapp and Ian's momentum has dropped recently and they both apparently have less patience with callers and listeners in general.

If this is the case, why would Premiere enforce this kind of decision? It seems to me that the show is most dynamic when each of the hosts is allowed to operate and investigate "the strange" individually rather than arbitrarily imposing a mandate on all of them to unify the direction of the show as a whole.

Fail.

AO - your fundamental assumption is incorrect, i.e., that the quality of the show is a primary concern.  Any illusions you may have had in that direction have to go.  The stomping out of "personality cult" in favor of a blenderized generic "paranormal host" means they won't have to go through the trauma that losing Art has cost.

It's all part of the minimizing of the individual and the elevating of the corporation.  Even if quality suffers, they don't care...they're bundled with Rush!

This is why I believe Art quit.  The show isn't fun if the host has no say.  And we see that the hosts are not having much fun, are they?

Ana

Marc.Knight

Quote from: anagrammy on June 20, 2011, 06:33:23 AM
AO - your fundamental assumption is incorrect, i.e., that the quality of the show is a primary concern.  Any illusions you may have had in that direction have to go.  The stomping out of "personality cult" in favor of a blenderized generic "paranormal host" means they won't have to go through the trauma that losing Art has cost.

It's all part of the minimizing of the individual and the elevating of the corporation.  Even if quality suffers, they don't care...they're bundled with Rush!

This is why I believe Art quit.  The show isn't fun if the host has no say.  And we see that the hosts are not having much fun, are they?

Ana

The host has to have his hands on the wheel. 

Like him or not, Rush has his primary studio in his house in West Palm Beach.  There is a need for personal ownership that keeps integrity in a program, something which the Nooron has long since abandoned.  Nooron has become the "just add water" type of insta-host.  He has no personal ownership of the show, and he is exactly what the suits were looking for after dealing with a strong-willed Art Bell.  He is the Anti-Art. 

aldousburbank

Quote from: Marc Knight on June 20, 2011, 07:11:41 AM
He is the Anti-Art.

Art is the donut, George is the hole.  Nice to see you on here Mr. Knight.

anagrammy

Quote from: Marc Knight on June 20, 2011, 07:11:41 AM

The host has to have his hands on the wheel. 

Like him or not, Rush has his primary studio in his house in West Palm Beach.  There is a need for personal ownership that keeps integrity in a program, something which the Nooron has long since abandoned.  Nooron has become the "just add water" type of insta-host.  He has no personal ownership of the show, and he is exactly what the suits were looking for after dealing with a strong-willed Art Bell.  He is the Anti-Art.

That's what we need --a poll.  Is Noory the Anti-Art?  Even though not from the Caucasus?

Anagrammy

999

I'm looking forward to Ian's show tonight:

'Contempt of Cop'

"Sat 06-25  Rochester native Emily Good was arrested on her front lawn for filming a traffic stop (related video). George DeAngelis, former assistant chief of police in El Paso, TX, and professor of criminology at Park University, joins Ian to discuss why some officers have "contempt of cop," a power hungry disorder that often leads to unnecessary arrests. Good's friend and eyewitness to her arrest, Ryan Acuff, will appear in the first hour. "

Sounds interesting.

Quote from: Agent : Orange on June 20, 2011, 02:33:24 AM
It's obvious that hosts are no longer picking their own guests, which is, I think, one of the reasons why Knapp and Ian's momentum has dropped recently and they both apparently have less patience with callers and listeners in general.

If this is the case, why would Premiere enforce this kind of decision? It seems to me that the show is most dynamic when each of the hosts is allowed to operate and investigate "the strange" individually rather than arbitrarily imposing a mandate on all of them to unify the direction of the show as a whole.

Fail.

I don't know that I agree with that as far as picking their guests. There are most certainly guests that have an "Ian" feel to them, that I don't think you would hear with George. Mainly the very theology based subjects. While I'm sure that Ian has to occasionally take someone like the numbers lady, I think he has more control than you think. And tonight's subject is far more in Ian's wheelhouse as well. Concern over police abusing their power is not something Noory would want any part of.

Knapp's guests last night were definitely his call and his story, and they were on for a full four hours, far beyond what they were scheduled for.

Seamus Capone

Talk about perfect timing! They just played a news break that mentioned a recent ruling by the California Supreme Court. Police no longer need a search warrant to peruse the contents of your cell phone after they arrest you. This is part of a bothersome and worrisome trend IMO. One needn't be a conspiracy theorist to see where these unchecked trends will lead. It's not one thing; it's a collection of them, from the TSA abomination to the erosion of various Constitutional amendments. The woman's arrest, mentioned tonight, is emblematic of the trend. You don't have to share the views of Ice Cube or Ice T to have major problems with some police actions. 

HAL 9000

We all probably have our share of first-hand or anecdotal "bad cop" stories - certainly the video referenced by Ian's program got my blood pressure elevated when I read the news story earlier this week.

Should you want to express your opinion to officer Mario Masic's supervisor (Rochester Police Chief James M. Sheppard), you can write him at:

sheppardj@cityofrochester.gov



Officer Masic apparently treats dogs better than innocent people - he runs a small dog-breeding business - he has pictures of himself and his dogs at:

harvestmoonmalamutes.com


Rochester Police Arrest Woman in Her Front Lawn For Filming Traffic Stop

Google Earth pic:



Eddie Coyle


     Talk about a fecund subject matter. Can't get enough of this. I'd love to see what score this clown got on his exam. If he got a 90, it's because he took it 7 times and they combined the scores.

Seamus Capone

Quote from: Eddie Coyle on June 26, 2011, 01:35:31 AM
Talk about a fecund subject matter. Can't get enough of this. I'd love to see what score this clown got on his exam. If he got a 90, it's because he took it 7 times and they combined the scores.

Are you referring to the arresting officer or the guest? From what we heard, the woman's civil rights were violated. She was videotaping the procedure on her own property. I'm not anti-cop, just pro-Constitution.

Eddie Coyle

Quote from: Jethro Capone on June 26, 2011, 02:07:27 AM
Are you referring to the arresting officer or the guest? From what we heard, the woman's civil rights were violated. She was videotaping the procedure on her own property. I'm not anti-cop, just pro-Constitution.

    The arresting officer. Seems another extra from "Idiocracy". I've become increasingly anti-cop with age. Not all are horrible, but more than enough are.

onan

Doing just a small amount of looking on the web I found this story of filming police officers is deeper and maybe darker than first glance suggests.


Emily Good the woman that filmed and then arrested for that filming has a bit of history with the local police.


Politics aside, Ms. Good is part of and maybe the head of a local group called "Take Back the Land". Their goal, is to occupy/squat foreclosed property with people who are unable to afford the housing.


It seems the police not only arrested Good for filming them but also returned to give parking tickets to the local citizens for parking more than 12 inches from the curb.


I can only speculate about the bullying by the police and their motivations. I can't do much more than that about Emily Good's side of the argument either. I mean, even though I am very sympathetic to those who are impoverished, I have to ask how is it right for anyone to simply move in to foreclosed property and assume it is theirs?


What kind of relations have been brewing between the police and the desparate people living their?


Bad all around but I am smelling moneyed interests from banks and realtors in the background.


http://www.theblaze.com/stories/%E2%80%98take-back-the-land%E2%80%99-woman-arrested-for-videotaping-police%E2%80%A6has-a-long-history-of-radical-confrontation/


Btw, the above site is connected in a big way with Glenn Beck. So take it as fwiw.




Seamus Capone

Quote from: Eddie Coyle on June 26, 2011, 02:17:22 AM
The arresting officer. Seems another extra from "Idiocracy". I've become increasingly anti-cop with age. Not all are horrible, but more than enough are.

It might be a generational thing. The older cops are nicer than the younger cops here, and the rise of "Idiocracy" culture might be one of the reasons why. I'm not anti-police, but they have to earn my trust, as they've followed and stopped me for very minor reasons during the past two years. They're suspicious of me, so I'm suspicious of them.

Two things I have noticed:

1. We always hear "Most cops are good, the few bad ones give them a bad name." Yet when something egregious is caught on tape or proven beyond a doubt it turns out that even if only one or two cops were causing the problem others present, sometimes many, kept their mouths shut.

If most cops are truly good we should have no need of video or civilian witnesses to 'out' them, the good cops should be turning them in or speaking out about them, yet that rarely if ever seems to happen.

2. I once fought a traffic ticket, everyone involved, from the cops to the prosecutors lied through their teeth (I still won because I had iron clad proof they were wrong). If they are willing to lie over a traffic issue why should I assume they get more honest in other matters?

I can't consume Ian Punnet whatsoever. Hat is off to you gentlemen.

valdez

Quote from: onan on June 26, 2011, 02:47:12 AM
Doing just a small amount of looking on the web I found this story of filming police officers is deeper and maybe darker than first glance suggests....Emily Good the woman that filmed and then arrested for that filming has a bit of history with the local police...is part of and maybe the head of a local group called "Take Back the Land". Their goal, is to occupy/squat foreclosed property with people who are unable to afford the housing...
There was something in her voice that bugged me.  I have no sympathy for her.  As many times as Ian reiterated that it wasn't an anti cop show, it was.  All but one caller defended the police and Ian laid into him.  A lot of us wouldn't dig a camera following us around at work.  When the local psycho takes his wife and kids hostage and begins shooting them one by one I got a feeling "activist camera woman" will be nowhere in sight.  Give these guys a break.

I was frankly surprised with how much I enjoyed Ian's show last night .. tremendous news and reporting.. and eye raising information that many people most likely didn't know.

I think Ian last night, like Knapp's Friday show, is a example of how good Coast to Coast can be

Camper

Quote from: valdez on June 26, 2011, 05:12:54 AM
     There was something in her voice that bugged me.  I have no sympathy for her.  As many times as Ian reiterated that it wasn't an anti cop show, it was.  All but one caller defended the police and Ian laid into him.  A lot of us wouldn't dig a camera following us around at work.  When the local psycho takes his wife and kids hostage and begins shooting them one by one I got a feeling "activist camera woman" will be nowhere in sight.  Give these guys a break.

What?

You are being filmed every time you walk into a store, a government building and likely at work. Don't be so quick to give up someones civil rights, they may come after yours next!

This can't be the worst example of police stepping on someone's rights.  I smell set up.  And not on the police side.  I think that woman was primed for a confrontation.  It just seemed to me that she was "gonna' set that stupid cop straight."

Where was the video of someone getting beaten or families terrorized on traffic stops by having the family pet shot?  I know there are plenty of those on YouTube.   

I think too many police officers use the position to fulfill that power-mad thing.  But I also think it's a thankless, dangerous job and those on the line need to be appreciated more. 

I usually believe the cops are in the wrong.  But, boy, not this time.  I just don't see why that woman didn't just back up and film from inside her house.  Maybe there wouldn't have been anything to add to her 15-minutes.  But maybe, if there was real corruption, there would have been something really legitimate  to record.

JMHO. 

Eddie Coyle

Quote from: Camper on June 26, 2011, 07:54:45 AM
What?

You are being filmed every time you walk into a store, a government building and likely at work. Don't be so quick to give up someones civil rights, they may come after yours next!

    Indeed, and all under the ruse of "security". Those cameras nailing people going through red lights at empty intersections at 3am...vital to our safety! Take those cameras down and the terrorists win!

I'm sorry that I only caught a few minutes of the show, and nothing with the activist woman.

I'm pro-cop because I've worked in law enforcement and fully understand the crap the rankin file has to put up with on and off duty, but one bad apple on a force will stick out like a sore thumb and impose his will to act like an asshole on his fellow officers even for routine incidents. No one can comprehend why these guys seem to expose how stupid they are even though everyone has a camera nowadays, but there's a mentality a bad cop gets in the moment when they just don't give a shit and it all hits the fan.

JustOneFix

In a prior job I worked closely with the cops. For the most part I found most easy going and laid back, but the young rookies with something to prove are the loose cannons to watch out for.

I got pulled over in one of my cars for only having one tail light. (It's all it had originally and I was on my way to a show to display said car) "General Santos" proceeds to run the VIN, got totally confused & pissed when he couldn't find it, and couldn't run the tag because it's a special issue not in the computers. Finally he looks at me and says "I'm going to have to place you under arrest for having a counterfeit tag and no visible VIN number on your car."

Told him to call a supervisor which he did, supervisor comes out, he & I talk things over while Gen. Santos stands there with a slack eyed look on his face. 

Long story short, I was cleared of everything I was accused of, the supervisor made the rookie apologize to me for wasting my time and then the supervisor chewed Santos' ass while I stood there and laughed.

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