Minneapolis/St.paul riots

[albrecht]

Come on you know this.  Voting is a right you assert unchallenged, unless there is good cause.  Your mask and squeegee finger are unlikely to give them any cause at all but, on the whole the system is designed to accomodate anyone who walks up.  I don't particularly like how loose it is but the courts have interpreted it this way to get rid of poll taxes and literacy tests and paying fines and other obstacles used historically to disenfranchise certain populations.

If voting is so important and such an important, fundamental right than there should be some effort to do so. Like showing up on an election day, unless illness, foreign service, or disability prevents this. If elections are so important than it would be important to have an informed electorate. If you have a country, and especially a nation, one would like to have at least a few common values and practices, like maybe a language or knowledge of the basic history and general framework. I don't see why literacy is a bad thing and why not have a simple test? Maybe a one-off deal when you first are able to register to vote, at least.

I mean we are told we should fight for the right to party, why not some minimal effort in the right to vote?

[whoozit]

Also, look mang, Koolaid won the powdered drink war and only a handful of people like you and me even remember it’s cheaper cousin, Flavoraid. That’s why we use it and not what was actually used in Jonestown when referring to unthinking political drones like K_Dubb.

I agree but it is a great example of how to change collective memory.  At some point it becomes easier to accept the mistake than keep correcting the record, and that is truly terrifying. 

[K_Dubb]

Also, look mang, Koolaid won the powdered drink war and only a handful of people like you and me even remember it’s cheaper cousin, Flavoraid. That’s why we use it and not what was actually used in Jonestown when referring to unthinking political drones like K_Dubb.

Haha you are the one who boldly asserted, based on the trashy sources you consume, (and I quote):

The observers needed to be there according to state and federal law. They weren’t. It was illegal. End of story.

only to have your ass handed to you.  Check your tongue, doc; it's an unbecoming shade of purple.

[Dr. MD MD]

I agree but it is a great example of how to change collective memory.  At some point it becomes easier to accept the mistake than keep correcting the record, and that is truly terrifying.

Maybe in larger issues but I don’t think I’ll be losing any sleep over that or the fact that people often refer to any tissue paper as Kleenex.

[Dr. MD MD]

Haha you are the one who boldly asserted, based on the trashy sources you consume, (and I quote):

only to have your ass handed to you.  Check your tongue, doc; it's an unbecoming shade of purple.

No idea what you’re talking about. I guess you can also afford some good drugs to swill down with your coffee along with all the hypocrisy you consume.

[pate]

Also, look mang, Koolaid won the powdered drink war and only a handful of people like you and me even remember it’s cheaper cousin, Flavoraid. That’s why we use it and not what was actually used in Jonestown when referring to unthinking political drones like K_Dubb. ;)

I agree but it is a great example of how to change collective memory.  At some point it becomes easier to accept the mistake than keep correcting the record, and that is truly terrifying.

Haha you are the one who boldly asserted, based on the trashy sources you consume, (and I quote):

only to have your ass handed to you.  Check your tongue, doc; it's an unbecoming shade of purple.

I guess Wyler's is the RC cola of the "Kool_Aid" wars...

Whichever brand you choose:  know that only the Red flavors are any good.

GO CHIEFS!

-p

         ! This post has nothing to do with rioting

[K_Dubb]

Do you often burn yourself on the glowing stove?

It's terrible!  My poor hands are a mass of slices and contusions, rolling-pin accidents, marble cutting boards dropped on toes, hot pads regularly eschewed in favor of readily accessible linen dish towels offering dubious protection...

I'm curious what happened here, too; we do not ultimately disagree.  But there is a powerful lot of horseshit being churned out and uncritically passed along BY A CERTAIN DR MDMD who has shown himself to be a Jive Turkey of the highest order, as well as a thoroughly irredeemable goober.

[SredniVashtar]

If voting is so important and such an important, fundamental right than there should be some effort to do so. 

It's because it's a right that every effort should be made to make sure everyone can exercise it. It isn't a privilege and once you start making it harder for people it only becomes more exclusive over time.

[Dr. MD MD]

It's because it's a right that every effort should be made to make sure everyone can exercise it. It isn't a privilege and once you start making it harder for people it only becomes more exclusive over time.

So, no requirements at all then? If you’re Mongolian, hey, why don’t you give our federal election a try? Nice try, globalist. :

[SredniVashtar]

I think the affidavit alleges they were deceived into leaving.  That allegation makes the definition of may and must moot and should be investigated with more than a no widespread fraud statement. It doesn’t mean the election is invalid or should be overturned per se, but at least a serious and sober investigation should occur.  There are way too many “I watch law shows on tv so I understand the intricacies of the law” reporters and bloggers out there.

People lie in affidavits all the time because it's very difficult to prove that they are actually deliberately lying and it usually isn't worth allocating resources to prosecute them if they did. The people going on about investigating fraud are as dishonest as the 9/11 people, they will never accept any result that doesn't reflect their pre-conceived opinion. Like the phake physician on here, it's a waste of time to take any of them seriously.

[Dr. MD MD]

People lie in affidavits all the time because it's very difficult to prove that they are actually deliberately lying and it usually isn't worth allocating resources to prosecute them if they did. The people going on about investigating fraud are as dishonest as the 9/11 people, they will never accept any result that doesn't reflect their pre-conceived opinion. Like the phake physician on here, it's a waste of time to take any of them seriously.

Right, because the official 9/11 story is so accurate. Nice try, globalist. Such an independent thinker! :

[K_Dubb]

If voting is so important and such an important, fundamental right than there should be some effort to do so. Like showing up on an election day, unless illness, foreign service, or disability prevents this. If elections are so important than it would be important to have an informed electorate. If you have a country, and especially a nation, one would like to have at least a few common values and practices, like maybe a language or knowledge of the basic history and general framework. I don't see why literacy is a bad thing and why not have a simple test? Maybe a one-off deal when you first are able to register to vote, at least.

I mean we are told we should fight for the right to party, why not some minimal effort in the right to vote?

Ok gran paw.

I was actually interested to see if Trump could find 3 million illegal 2016 voters like he said, as I am sure you were.  That has long been the suspicion, and that kind of discovery might actually see tightening of voter-ID laws, but of course he wasn't interested in fixing anything real, just in excusing why he lost the popular vote.

[Dr. MD MD]

Ok gran paw.

I was actually interested to see if Trump could find 3 million illegal 2016 voters like he said, as I am sure you were.  That has long been the suspicion, and that kind of discovery might actually see tightening of voter-ID laws, but of course he wasn't interested in fixing anything real, just in excusing why he lost the popular vote.

Still retrying the 2016 election, gran paw? It’s 2020 now. :

[K_Dubb]

Still retrying the 2016 election, gran paw? It’s 2020 now. :

No, he cried wolf back then and I made the mistake of taking him half-seriously.  Not this time.

[Dr. MD MD]

No, he cried wolf back then and I made the mistake of taking him half-seriously.  Not this time.

Please! You never even took him a quarter seriously. I’ve never known you to be anything but a card carrying Dem drone here since before the last election so don’t pretend that you ever supported him, gran paw. :

[Dr. MD MD]

It's terrible!  My poor hands are a mass of slices and contusions, rolling-pin accidents, marble cutting boards dropped on toes, hot pads regularly eschewed in favor of readily accessible linen dish towels offering dubious protection...

I'm curious what happened here, too; we do not ultimately disagree.  But there is a powerful lot of horseshit being churned out and uncritically passed along BY A CERTAIN DR MDMD who has shown himself to be a Jive Turkey of the highest order, as well as a thoroughly irredeemable goober.

But you specialize in uncritical horseshit, like moving this debate to an unrelated thread where most won’t think to look for it. If I were Lee I’d move it all back to the Election Night thread where it should be.

[Jackstar]

But you specialize in uncritical horseshit

My old job.

[Jackstar]

People lie in affidavits all the time because [...] it's a waste of time to take any of them seriously.

I agree with what you wrote.

[Jackstar]

No idea what you’re talking about. I guess you can also afford some good drugs

I think you would be deeply surprised to discover just how affordable the legal ones are. As a medical professional you're probably not interested in hearing that, Scarface. ;)

[whoozit]

People lie in affidavits all the time because it's very difficult to prove that they are actually deliberately lying and it usually isn't worth allocating resources to prosecute them if they did. The people going on about investigating fraud are as dishonest as the 9/11 people, they will never accept any result that doesn't reflect their pre-conceived opinion. Like the phake physician on here, it's a waste of time to take any of them seriously.

What is the criteria for opening an investigation? If affidavits aren’t enough what is?  Please don’t tell me it’s like the definition of pornography. I agree lots have pre-conceived opinions and biases but what is all the blustering about finding the truth?   

[Dr. MD MD]

I think you would be deeply surprised to discover just how affordable the legal ones are. As a medical professional you're probably not interested in hearing that, Scarface.

Oh, I know that, Pruneface.

[Dr. MD MD]

What is the criteria for opening an investigation? If affidavits aren’t enough what is?  Please don’t tell me it’s like the definition of pornography. I agree lots have pre-conceived opinions and biases but what is all the blustering about finding the truth?

He doesn’t want it found becaue it would reveal the attempt to steal this election by the Dems who’ve sold out to China, silly.

P.S. Anyone noticing how belligerent China is being toward Australia now? It’s almost like they’re ramping up for something.

[WOTR]

Well you guys have been a bunch of glum cunts lately; somebody has to step up.

In which case...

"Thank-you for your service."

...you are more addled than most on BellGab, thinner but addled.

And it is statements such as these that make me love this place. 

[WOTR]

Yes, Georgia is an open carry state.

In 1946, the Georgia governor elect died between election and inauguration.  That led to lots of turmoil, but one part of it centered on a law that would have made the second place finisher governor.  The establishment alternative finished third.  Suddenly, in the third place man’s home county they found a box of uncounted ballots - all for the chosen man, all marked in pencil, and voted in alphabetical order.

I'm guessing that the federal election security officials declare that to be the "second most secure election in history?"

[WOTR]

People lie in affidavits all the time because it's very difficult to prove that they are actually deliberately lying and it usually isn't worth allocating resources to prosecute them if they did.

Have you watched any of the video tape (aside from the little section where the suitcases are pulled out that is widely circulated.) They claim they were corralled in a "observation area" where they could not observe (obvious on the tape.) They claim that everybody was told to pack up and go home (everybody but 4 people do exactly that at the same time including almost two dozen poll workers.) In this case, it is not just an affidavit (though we rely on that to know why everybody left- it was not a bomb scare or mass hypnosis- it was being told that they are shut down for the night.)

Well, it is nice to see you back and on K_Dubbs side. I suspect that he may require some physical comfort...

[ItsOver]

If voting is so important and such an important, fundamental right than there should be some effort to do so. Like showing up on an election day, unless illness, foreign service, or disability prevents this. If elections are so important than it would be important to have an informed electorate. If you have a country, and especially a nation, one would like to have at least a few common values and practices, like maybe a language or knowledge of the basic history and general framework. I don't see why literacy is a bad thing and why not have a simple test? Maybe a one-off deal when you first are able to register to vote, at least.

I mean we are told we should fight for the right to party, why not some minimal effort in the right to vote?

Come on, Albrecht, the Demonrats would prefer to dispense with all the bother of elections, anyway.  Just recognize their elite status and submit.  Look at all the poor dear leader of Austin has had to put up with recently from you cretins. Tisk, tisk.

https://www.mysanantonio.com/coronavirus/article/I-will-work-to-re-earn-your-trust-Austin-mayor-15781888.php

[whoozit]

Ab homonym...

...by any other name..

[SredniVashtar]

What is the criteria for opening an investigation? If affidavits aren’t enough what is?  Please don’t tell me it’s like the definition of pornography. I agree lots have pre-conceived opinions and biases but what is all the blustering about finding the truth?

Some evidence to back it up. If you have proof to back up your story then you will be taken seriously. I've made statements before to the police, but if there's no corroboration it won't go any further. There are so many people in this business who are so thoroughly dishonest that they'd swear black was white if they thought Trump would get re-elected. If you investigate without any evidence you just feed their paranoia, not that it needs much feeding. And if the investigation comes up with nothing they say it was all a fake by the Chi-Coms or Soros.

[WOTR]

You are twisting my words.  All I want is a real investigation.  It should not be directed to persuade the nation, it should be directed to find out what happened.

I think that is what a number of people would like to see. Without that, I really am worried about the future. Not tomorrow- not even (necessarily) next election. But I believe you will have the seeds of something ugly that will grow in a decade.*

*Well, unless the Twitter and facebook "fact checkers" and certain vocal individuals can convince the population that everything is fine and that to ask questions is laughable and that it is absurd to want answers.

[Dr. MD MD]

Some evidence to back it up. If you have proof to back up your story then you will be taken seriously. I've made statements before to the police, but if there's no corroboration it won't go any further. There are so many people in this business who are so thoroughly dishonest that they'd swear black was white if they thought Trump would get re-elected. If you investigate without any evidence you just feed their paranoia, not that it needs much feeding. And if the investigation comes up with nothing they say it was all a fake by the Chi-Coms or Soros.

Not only did the people there tesify to this fact but it was recorded, you moron. :