Democrat Candidates

[albrecht]

Might be a fun debate tonight  as the remaining candidates are getting desperate and throwing accusations around. They all are likely going to gang up on the diminutive billionaire who bought his way into the campaign and the DNC itself is trying to find a way to stop the outright communist, again.

[Tootsie]

Might be a fun debate tonight  as the remaining candidates are getting desperate and throwing accusations around. They all are likely going to gang up on the diminutive billionaire who bought his way into the campaign and the DNC itself is trying to find a way to stop the outright communist, again.

People who don't know the difference between communism and socialism, yet alone Democratic Socialism need some free education

[Dr. MD MD]

People who don't know the difference between communism and socialism, yet alone Democratic Socialism need some free education

Sure. Have at it! Please explain the difference.

[aldousburbank]

Those who don’t know the difference between free education and communism need some democrat socialism. 

[Tootsie]

Those who don’t know the difference between free education and communism need some democrat socialism.

yeah 
Denmark, Norway and Finland also offer free tuition. Many European countries offer tuition-free education to university students. ... France: France technically charges tuition to undergraduate students, but the fees are so small that they can be lower than the registration fees in other nations.

[Tootsie]

Sure. Have at it! Please explain the difference.

google it

[Dr. MD MD]

google it

This is what we mean when we say that your side just can’t back up your arguments. :

[Tootsie]

This is what we mean when we say that your side just can’t back up your arguments. :

The main difference is that under communism, most property and economic resources are owned and controlled by the state (rather than individual citizens); under socialism, all citizens share equally in economic resources as allocated by a democratically-elected government.

Democratic socialism is an economic, social, and political ideology holding that while both the society and economy should be run democratically, they should be dedicated to meeting the needs of the people as a whole, rather than encouraging individual and complete corporate prosperity as in capitalism. Democratic socialists advocate the transition of society from capitalism to socialism through existing participatory democratic processes, rather than revolution as characterized by orthodox Marxism. Universally-used services such as housing, utilities, mass transit, and health care are distributed by the government, while consumer goods are distributed by a CAPITALISTIC FREE MARKET.

You can have capitalism under democratic socialism jut not capitalism run amuck as we currently have.  What we have is Socialism for the rich and corporations - rugged individualism for the poor, working people and middle class.

Thanks for being civil and not attacking me   

[albrecht]

yeah 
Denmark, Norway and Finland also offer free tuition. Many European countries offer tuition-free education to university students. ... France: France technically charges tuition to undergraduate students, but the fees are so small that they can be lower than the registration fees in other nations.

BUT, you have to maintain good marks AND majors are controlled. Most Democrats wouldn't like that. They won't pay for a zillion "Gender Studies in Peasant Basket Weaving" majors or just let a student float along with no major and poor marks. Also in many of the countries you take a test, or battery of tests, that determines your educational, or vocational, path around middle-school. Also advanced degrees (medical specialization etc) are limited to "need." "You want to be a dentist? Sorry, our metrics says this region only needs X amount of dentists." Often the State planning doesn't match the reality on the ground in demographic shifts (so hard to get into a dentist or doctor or certain procedures force you to go to another country, etc.) Of course every "system" rations- the debate being who does the rationing: central government, local government, the marketplace, the consumer, the provider, etc?

Which is fine in their model because their idea of socialism is have large industries and have stability in the society without as much social movement; up or down. Why countries like Germany, Norway, etc have yuuge conglomerates GmBHs S.A.'s etc and much of the costs have been off-loaded from companies to the state and people (healthcare, education, lower corporate taxation) but assuming they are well run everyone will be employed and the investors/owners make profits.  Here our corporations are taxed more and ALSO have to handle human resource costs (healthcare, training, etc.) If I were a Democrat I would run on that issue to get their government healthcare and public education agenda advanced. 

The systems CAN work well but one has to consider:Norway's population is less than Houston.Homogeneous (until the suicidal migrant situation) populations
And some countries have a economic natural advantage (Norway has yuuuge hydrocarbon resources.)

[aldousburbank]

Universally-used services such as housing, utilities, mass transit, and health care are distributed by the government, while consumer goods are distributed by a CAPITALISTIC FREE MARKET.

If you turn on the lights and take off the sexy negligee, this sentence looks like this:

Universally-used services such as housing, utilities, mass transit, and health care are collectively paid for by the tax-payer, while consumer goods are individually paid for by the tax-payer.

[Dr. MD MD]

The main difference is that under communism, most property and economic resources are owned and controlled by the state (rather than individual citizens); under socialism, all citizens share equally in economic resources as allocated by a democratically-elected government.

Democratic socialism is an economic, social, and political ideology holding that while both the society and economy should be run democratically, they should be dedicated to meeting the needs of the people as a whole, rather than encouraging individual and complete corporate prosperity as in capitalism. Democratic socialists advocate the transition of society from capitalism to socialism through existing participatory democratic processes, rather than revolution as characterized by orthodox Marxism. Universally-used services such as housing, utilities, mass transit, and health care are distributed by the government, while consumer goods are distributed by a CAPITALISTIC FREE MARKET.

You can have capitalism under democratic socialism jut not capitalism run amuck as we currently have.  What we have is Socialism for the rich and corporations - rugged individualism for the poor, working people and middle class.

Thanks for being civil and not attacking me   

Then it’s not capitalism but a top down managment of resources which always results in disaster, especially for the poor. Ultimately, you’re still talking about a communist takeover of free nations while naively trusting that it won’t be corrupt when all the evidence is to the contrary. Any nation that doesn’t hold the individual sacred is bound for disaster.

[Dr. MD MD]

If you turn on the lights and take off the sexy negligee, this sentence looks like this:

Universally-used services such as housing, utilities, mass transit, and health care are collectively paid for by the tax-payer, while consumer goods are individually paid for by the tax-payer.

BINGO!

[Tootsie]

If you turn on the lights and take off the sexy negligee, this sentence looks like this:

Universally-used services such as housing, utilities, mass transit, and health care are collectively paid for by the tax-payer, while consumer goods are individually paid for by the tax-payer.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/2018-taxes-some-of-americas-biggest-companies-paid-little-to-no-federal-income-tax-last-year/

[Tootsie]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/2018-taxes-some-of-americas-biggest-companies-paid-little-to-no-federal-income-tax-last-year/

ok, guys, i know i can't win here. thanks again for not attacking me personally.. Have a good night...

[Stupid Robbings]

The main difference is that under communism, most property and economic resources are owned and controlled by the state (rather than individual citizens); under socialism, all citizens share equally in economic resources as allocated by a democratically-elected government.

Democratic socialism is an economic, social, and political ideology holding that while both the society and economy should be run democratically, they should be dedicated to meeting the needs of the people as a whole, rather than encouraging individual and complete corporate prosperity as in capitalism. Democratic socialists advocate the transition of society from capitalism to socialism through existing participatory democratic processes, rather than revolution as characterized by orthodox Marxism. Universally-used services such as housing, utilities, mass transit, and health care are distributed by the government, while consumer goods are distributed by a CAPITALISTIC FREE MARKET.

You can have capitalism under democratic socialism jut not capitalism run amuck as we currently have.  What we have is Socialism for the rich and corporations - rugged individualism for the poor, working people and middle class.

Thanks for being civil and not attacking me   

"How do you keep the Moderates, alive?"  --Professor, Jim Timmons, Democratic Socialist

[aldousburbank]

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/2018-taxes-some-of-americas-biggest-companies-paid-little-to-no-federal-income-tax-last-year/

Well that is good news. We need to eliminate taxes on income for individuals and corporations. Quasi-constitutional. Counterproductive. Levys on sales and import tariffs, especially for US corporations manufacturing off-shore, would be a more just and sustainable practice. Let’s face it, all corporate taxes/tariffs are paid for by the end consumer. Let’s just not tax them twice is all.

[Dr. MD MD]

ok, guys, i know i can't win here. thanks again for not attacking me personally.. Have a good night...

In terms of socialistic resource management just look at the horrors happening in China and the attempts to supress it. That’s what you get with full-on socialism. You would probably be the first to complain. I’m with the HK protesters yearning to breathe free.

[ItsOver]

People who don't know the difference between communism and socialism, yet alone Democratic Socialism need some free education

What?  No lecture on Nazis for us bumpkin deplorables? 

[albrecht]

I have to guiltily admit I switched back from hockey to watch this Trump Re-Election debacle and comedy show. Hilarious stuff. And fun to watch. I love the businessman billionaire roll-eyes when others rant not understanding business. The Minnesota gal looks/acts like the actress from movie version of "Harvey" -"Judge, Judge...sue him-" and Biden looks like Harvey- invisble n everyone ignores him. Buttedge, military and McKinsey alum, also is smug when Burnie n others don't get numbers and financial realities. Stream of conscious musings here...here is Biden...I want Cornpop reference...and why the whole raising hands like an elementary school?

[Dr. MD MD]

I have to guiltily admit I switched back from hockey to watch this Trump Re-Election debacle and comedy show. Hilarious stuff. And fun to watch. I love the businessman billionaire roll-eyes when others rant not understanding business. The Minnesota gal looks/acts like the actress from movie version of "Harvey" -"Judge, Judge...sue him-" and Biden looks like Harvey- invisble n everyone ignores him. Buttedge, military and McKinsey alum, also is smug when Burnie n others don't get numbers and financial realities. Stream of conscious musings here...here is Biden...I want Cornpop reference...and why the whole raising hands like an elementary school?

You’ve gotta get your switchblade good and rusty first.

[albrecht]

You’ve gotta get your switchblade good and rusty first.

I will stick with my rusty straight-razor for my gang, thank you very much. None of these new-fangled switchblade contraptions.


Bloomberg just said "this is getting Trump elected. Other countries tried it. It is called communism and doesn't work." (paraphrased.)

[Dr. MD MD]

I will stick with my rusty straight-razor for my gang, thank you very much. None of these new-fangled switchblade contraptions.


Bloomberg just said "this is getting Trump elected. Other countries tried it. It is called communism and doesn't work." (paraphrased.)

[Dr. MD MD]

Biden talking about raising the corporate tax rate by another 10%. That oughta reduce the GDP again.

[albrecht]

Biden talking about raising the corporate tax rate by another 10%. That oughta reduce the GDP again.

I enjoyed how the COMINTERN candidate paid for ADS during the network COMMERCIAL break.

[ItsOver]

I will stick with my rusty straight-razor for my gang, thank you very much. None of these new-fangled switchblade contraptions...

I'll stick with my Kershaw Ken Onion SpeedSafe. Open in the blink of an eye, with one hand.  One slick little knife.

https://kershaw.kaiusaltd.com/blog/pocketknife-technology-101inside-kershaws-opening-systems

Brando would have gone with it, if it had been available then.

[Dr. MD MD]

They’re having a who can bend over the most for illegal immigrants contest right now. : :

[Dr. MD MD]

Bloomberg just referred to this nation as “the railroad.” Fascist?

[albrecht]

I'll stick with my Kershaw Ken Onion SpeedSafe. Open in the blink of an eye, with one hand.  One slick little knife.

https://kershaw.kaiusaltd.com/blog/pocketknife-technology-101inside-kershaws-opening-systems

Brando would have gone with it, if it had been available then.

From what some Hollywood gossip and "tell all" books claims apparently Brando would've been "friends" with Buttigieg and Obama, sometimes. Leather, I guess, was a "tell."  To each their own, of course.

[Dr. MD MD]

I couldn’t tell what they were saying but Biden just got protested hard. They had to take a minute to “clear the room.”

[albrecht]

I couldn’t tell what they were saying but Biden just got protested hard. They had to take a minute to “clear the room.”

Yeah. What was the protest/chant/situation? Besides the stuff Biden comes from the equivalent of Cayman Islands or Isle of Mann state for business incorporation, credit card arbitration "rules," and banking...Not that I'm against that but still, weird for a 'progressive."