Started by Frys Girl, April 07, 2009, 08:57:10 PM
Quote from: West of the Rockies on April 24, 2013, 04:59:36 PMNicely put, Eddie. Yes, for the rich and powerful and well-connected, life is one big revolving door. Easy access to the best schools, easy access to good jobs. They go from political office to a think tank or lobbying firm or to a position of authority with some multi-national (think Haliburton) or to some media outlet. They slide pretty easily back into politics when the mood hits (and they're able to con enough voters). It's all pretty damn discouraging.
Quote from: West of the Rockies on April 25, 2013, 06:35:09 PMJust watched a 20-minute portion of Rachel Maddow eviscerating Jones, Drudge, and the other far-far-right whackos (who are now being quoted on more mainstream conservative pages and airwaves). They are dangerous, ill-informed people. Some people on this forum who pretty clearly lean right have done the right and necessary thing and identified Jones as a crackpot. I'd like to see more such activity from the talking heads at Fox. And for the record, Maddow said the left has its conspiracy weirdos, too, but that they are not being mainstreamed the way the rightwing conspiracy folks are.
Quote from: Yorkshire pud on April 26, 2013, 01:42:08 AMCould Jones be charged with treason? What I find typical but incredibly cowardly and disingenuous, is his denial of responsibility. He works up the hard of thinking and reactionary t possibly inflict great harm, but then claims it's a) nothing to do with him b) claims it's a conspiracy against him! Twat. The scary thing is when you have politicians taking the cunt seriously and quoting him as some sort of oracle.
Quote from: FightTheFuture on April 26, 2013, 08:11:55 AMAlex Jones is a kooky person, but harmless. I would be shocked if the FBI, CIA, NSA, or any intelligence/law enforcement agency, is even remotely interested in anything he says or does. He`s a non-factor in the big scheme of things, as are virtually ALL other entertainer/radio hosts - left, right, center or neither.
Quote from: Tinfoil Hat on April 26, 2013, 09:44:29 AMI think you're right, FTF. Alex Jones, C2C, Rush Limbaugh, Rachel Maddow etc. are all just noise and only out there to sell ads. There are much more important things to be worried about.
Quote from: Yorkshire pud on April 26, 2013, 10:02:29 AMBut I also think one day he will be the proven catalyst to mass murder; Then it will be people wringing hands, shuffling feet and muttering that they should have 'done something' to stop Jones. But then, it will be too late.
Quote from: Yorkshire pud on April 26, 2013, 10:02:29 AM......[size=78%] But I also think one day he will be the proven catalyst to mass murder; Then it will be people wringing hands, shuffling feet and muttering that they should have 'done something' to stop Jones. But then, it will be too late.[/size]
Quote from: ACE of CLUBS on April 26, 2013, 11:59:37 AMI agree with Pud ...... Someone, at sometime, somewhere ..... will do something that can be linked back/influenced by Alex Jones.If that motor mouthed gasbag were to tone his delusional rants down a bit, I believe that a catastrophe will happen sooner than later.He is an enemy/enema of your country ......
Quote from: FightTheFuture on April 26, 2013, 12:46:21 PMAlex Jones is no more a threat to society than folks like Louis Farrakhan - who is much, much more inflammatory in his tone and enjoys a far broader audience - or Khalid Muhammad, Pastor Fred Phelps, and the list goes on.
Quote from: Sleepwalker on April 26, 2013, 01:12:21 PM Alex Jones is heard daily on more than 60 radio stations. That number increases to more than 500 when his buddy George Noory gives him a bully pulpit on Coast to Coast AM.How many radio stations are Louis Farrakhan, Fred Phelps and Khalid Muhammad heard on?
Quote from: FightTheFuture on April 26, 2013, 01:21:01 PMAJ has a handful of followers - perhaps in the thousands..........
Quote from: FightTheFuture on April 26, 2013, 12:46:21 PMI just think that`s way over-the-top rhetoric. First of all, he`s never called for armed rebellion or anything even remotely resembling violent action. Furthermore, from what I`ve observed, I seriously doubt his target audience is even capable of mounting a serious threat even if he were to attempt to incite such an action.
Quote from: Yorkshire pud on April 26, 2013, 02:10:36 PMHis target audience are those who are like minded. Namely the paranoid, the unstable, the ones who think that he (AJ) actually makes sense and speaks from a position of received wisdom. The intelligent and critical thinkers of course know he talks out of his arse, but that still leaves those who believe what he says, because he believes what he says too. In the thirties was a little insignificant Austrian corporal who was ridiculed, mocked openly, but eventually had people listening and believing him. His target audience initially were the disaffected, the ones who thought that the government was against them in league with the Jews and anyone else they decided wasn't one of 'them'. AJ knows exactly who he's aiming his vitriol at, and exactly what effect it has; Would you bet your family's life on one of his disciples going la la over something AJ said?
Quote from: West of the Rockies on April 26, 2013, 04:04:34 PMBy any chance, morphia, have you read a book entitled "The Eliminationists: How Hate Talk Radicalized the American Right" by David Neiwert?....
Quote from: West of the Rockies on April 26, 2013, 04:04:34 PM The scorched-earth policy that has become SOP in political debate could prove ruinous. And all in the name of a dollar....
Quote from: Sardondi on April 26, 2013, 09:18:48 PMIs that anything like the eliminationist rhetoric that was virtually exploding from the usual leftward chatterers in the past two weeks, who were openly hoping beyond hope - as they told everyone who would listen how hateful and bigoted it was to assume Boston was an act by Islamic terrorists, and how brilliant and patriotic it was to conclude it was *gasp!* some kind of Tea Partiers on steroids - that sweet, sweet Gaia would grant them that this time....this time....it would please, please be a right-winger? You mean that kind of "eliminationist"?
Quote from: West of the Rockies on April 27, 2013, 09:53:33 AMSardondi, such talk may well have been short-sighted and fueled by foolishness, but, no, it was not eliminationist. The point by the author (Neiwart) of the book I mentioned is that hate talk has become so fierce, so toxic on the right as to call for the physical elimination of those "on the other side". Are there leftists who have voiced thoughts such as, "I wish Limbaugh would die of a heart attack"? To quote Ms. Palin, you betcha. Do I think their talk is hateful and non-productive. You betcha.