Started by Frys Girl, April 07, 2009, 08:57:10 PM
Quote from: The General on January 23, 2011, 12:37:29 AMThe left has Michael Moore.The right has Alex Jones.They're about equal. Both of them so far off the beaten path that they marginalize themselves.
Quote from: Lena on January 23, 2011, 12:43:31 AMdocumented: National Emergency Centers Establishment Actand here's one of the camps visited - currently empty, waiting for happy families:CENSORED FROM TV! JESSE VENTURA'S CONSPIRACY THEORY S02E04 - POLICE STATE, FEMA CAMPS...Part 3 of 3
Quote from: onan on January 23, 2011, 12:52:16 AMI haven't seen every Michael Moore film. But I have seen a few, what I have walked away with is a sense that, the middle class has few defenders. I have walked away thinking the middle class or more accurately the working poor make significant sacrifices that largely go unrecognized. I remember having a large dose of contempt for those that have made erroneous decisions that cost the mainstream their savings, health, and lives. What I get from Alex Jones is a large helping pf paranoia. That the only real solution is anarchy and no taxes.Really not the same thing and shame on you for equivocating.
Quote from: b_dubb on January 23, 2011, 01:38:58 AMwe're not NAZI Germany. even if Alex Jones says we are
Quote from: Lena on January 23, 2011, 01:43:23 AMwow, now you're angry and cant even admit you lost your own bet.bad loser really.I posted you one bill that explicitly declares such centers to be established.if you want the complete bill ask google.bad bad loser. I pity you.
Quote from: Lena on January 23, 2011, 01:46:28 AMCounting together all your countries crimes, the US are worse than Nazi Germany in my opinion.You aren't the most hated country on the planet for no reason.
Quote from: Lena on January 23, 2011, 01:14:25 AMAlso, your assumption that these camps are for illegal aliens is ridiculous, since the US government doesn't do sh*t to keep them out in the first place, and if the cops find some, they sure dont hold them anyway.
Quote from: Marc Knight on January 23, 2011, 01:52:39 AM
Quote from: Lena on January 23, 2011, 02:03:36 AMyour link produces an empty page. but dont worry. i know the bill.haiti.. well may be some reason to ship them back. they have to do something once in a while to cover their backs.mexicans usually stay. would probably return anyway 24h after deportation. @Marc Knight.I see you have some kind of obsession with fat ugly people, and the humor of an underage boy,but please keep it to yourself. it really is not a pretty sight
Quote from: b_dubb on January 23, 2011, 01:54:48 AMLena ... here is what a link to documentation looks like ... http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/z?c111:h645:that's what i asked for originally. now ... at first glance ... i see language about emergency centers on military installations. how does that translate to FEMA camp? also ... this is from Jan. 2009. i think Alex's first FEMA camp story/accusation precedes this legislation by several years, right?
QuoteRex 84, short for Readiness Exercise 1984, is a contingency plan developed by the United States federal government to suspend the United States Constitution, declare martial law, place military commanders in charge of state and local governments, and detain large numbers of American citizens who were deemed to be "national security threats", in the event that the President declared a "State of Domestic National Emergency". The plan stated that events that might cause such a declaration would be widespread U.S. opposition to a U.S. military invasion abroad, such as if the United States were to directly invade Central America. To combat what the government perceived as "subversive activities", the plan also authorized the military to direct ordered movements of civilian populations at state and regional levels.Rex 84 was written by Lieutenant Colonel Oliver North, who was both National Security Council White House Aide, and NSC liaison to the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), and John Brinkerhoff, the deputy director of "national preparedness" programs for FEMA. They patterned the plan on a 1970 report written by FEMA chief Louis Giuffrida, at the Army War College, which proposed the detention of up to 21 million "American Negroes", if there were a black militant uprising in the United States.  Existence of a master military contingency plan (of which REX-84 was a part), "Garden Plot" and a similar earlier exercise, "Lantern Spike" were originally revealed by journalist Ron Ridenhour, who summarized his findings in "Garden Plot and the New Action Army."Rex 84 was publicly mentioned during the Iran-Contra Hearings in 1987.  Transcripts from the hearing in the New York Times record the following dialogue between Congressman Jack Brooks, North's attorney Brendan Sullivan and Senator Daniel Inouye, the Democratic Chair of the Committee: [Congressman Jack] Brooks: Colonel North, in your work at the N.S.C. were you not assigned, at one time, to work on plans for the continuity of government in the event of a major disaster? Brendan Sullivan [North's counsel, agitatedly]: Mr. Chairman? [Senator Daniel] Inouye: I believe that question touches upon a highly sensitive and classified area so may I request that you not touch upon that? Brooks: I was particularly concerned, Mr. Chairman, because I read in Miami papers, and several others, that there had been a plan developed, by that same agency, a contingency plan in the event of emergency, that would suspend the American constitution. And I was deeply concerned about it and wondered if that was an area in which he had worked. I believe that it was and I wanted to get his confirmation. Inouye: May I most respectfully request that that matter not be touched upon at this stage. If we wish to get into this, I'm certain arrangements can be made for an executive session.Exercises similar to Rex 84 happen regularly. For example, from 1967 to 1971 the FBI kept a list of over 100,000 persons to be rounded up as subversive, dubbed the "ADEX" list.The basic facts about Rex 84 and other contingency planning readiness exercisesâ€"and the potential threat they pose to civil liberties if fully implemented in a real operationâ€"are taken seriously by scholars and civil libertarians.
Quote from: Lena on January 23, 2011, 02:03:36 AMhaiti.. well may be some reason to ship them back. they have to do something once in a while to cover their backs.mexicans usually stay. would probably return anyway 24h after deportation.
Quote from: b_dubb on January 23, 2011, 03:20:47 AMyou've been making so many outlandish claims that i can't take anything of what you say seriously. as most here (at this forum/site) know, i'm not an establishment guy. i don't think the sun shines out of washington's ass. our government has a long history of doing monstrously shitty things. but that is separate from what Alex Jones is cooking up. the guy is a fast talking huckster with books and movies to sell. he's motivated by money. like a lot of us he's probably got a mortgage to pay. but that doesn't excuse him from fucking with everyone's head for profit
Quote from: b_dubb on January 23, 2011, 03:25:58 AMMarc ... i like how your photo changed from one fat white guy to another fat white guy. very tricky. was that by accident? or ... part of conspiracy to undermine Alex Jones's profit margin err... credibility? dun dun DUUUUNNNNNNN
Quote from: Lena on January 23, 2011, 04:10:09 AMso many outlandish claims did I make? You don't seem to be able to disprove anything I wrote.You challenged me to show you documents, I did, and you're such a bad loser. Now you're afraid of the facts and documents, and switch the "he's in for the money". You're really a sad ignorant. Whatever, I dont believe blindly in all Alex Jones says. All his videos are on youtube 100% free, hist radioshow is 100% free - that's better than even Coast to Coast - but of course he also needs to make a living - somehow.I suggest you listen freely to his show: http://www.infowars.com/and sit in a corner shamefully for an hour.
Quote from: Do you think it was angels? on January 22, 2011, 03:31:25 PMMuch of what Alex says is well-documented and disturbing. When he tries to connect the dots, sometimes he gets lost. Controlled Demolition is a major distraction. I'm not too sure about his thesis of planned genocide. Like many conspiracy types, he seems to have little contact with the business community or those in government, so I don't think he quite understands how such people think.
Quote from: KnyeGuy on January 23, 2011, 12:09:13 AMI think Alex Jones is most likely into the conspiracy theories for money...Although I wouldn't be surprised if he were a purposeful disinformation agent of the so-called powers that be.Sure he gives out some good information, but most of his act is nothing but "hype" and "sensationalism."He takes a story and over dramatizes the [mostly] useless points to meet the need for sensationalism. Case in point was his film about Bohemian Grove. There was no evidence of anything happening there beyond some ridiculous 'frat' type nonsense.Also, there would be no way in hell that an all powerful secret society would even allow Alex close to ANY of their actual meeting sites or even let him LIVE (unless of course, he is one of their disinfo jockeys).I'm into conspiracies (and no, I do NOT think that all of the 911 questions have been answered) but I believe Alex Jones is nothing but a Frauding sack of shit. If you are going to seek the truth regarding any sort of conspiracy theory , stay away from Alex Jones (among others).AJ = Disinformation Agent or Money Grubbing Asshole.
Quote from: Lena on January 23, 2011, 01:46:28 AMCounting together all your countries crimes, the US are worse than Nazi Germany in my opinion.You aren't the most hated country on the planet for no reason.But I still love your country, there's hope for improvment, *real* patriots are on the rise - they just have a hard job to do with all your dumbed down population.
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