Topic: Live Shooters Las Vegas Several Dead at Mandalay Bay

[Yorkshire pud]

I guess racial profiling or country bans isn't going to help much during this situation.

Stop it!!! Now.

[Juan]

On the scene reporters say that the two broken out windows belong to one room.

[Lord Grantham]

Jackstar has yet to say it was all fiction. Nobody died.

Shitloads of cameras all over Las Vegas, and all we've got are videos of sounds of gunfire, and still shots of people lying on the ground covered in a shiny red substance.


Wake me when y'all have woken up. Obvious psyop is obvious.

Too late.

[Juan]

According to the Daily Mail, Danley is originally from the Philippines and may be an Australian citizen.

[Yorkshire pud]

According to the Daily Mail, Danley is originally from the Philippines and may be an Australian citizen.

I knew it! An escaped convict.

[Juan]

Jaz in drag?

[Yorkshire pud]

Too late.

He never lets a good psyop scenario go to waste. Good ole Michelle.

[Yorkshire pud]

Jaz in drag?

Perhaps. But at least he wasn't murican.

[Who]

I won't believe anything until I hear it from Alex Jones and George Noory.

[Lord Grantham]

Trump's response. I'll give him credit, it was what was needed.

http://www.npr.org/2017/10/02/555030627/trump-to-address-the-nation-on-las-vegas-shooting

[Yorkshire pud]

I won't believe anything until I hear it from Alex Jones and George Noory.

And the not inconsiderable analysis from Senda.

[albrecht]

No guns were harmed in the execution of this massacre.

They are. Callers now blaming guns and calling for bans. "Gun Love" in particular, as one caller put it. So far though no callers mentioned his apparent chronic gambling problem and maybe his targeting of Vegas might have been a motivation? Also, weirdly, his brother said he "liked burritos." Have to love UK tabloids to get to the issues that matter. Meanwhile, in the country you fled, I see some politician claiming Islam is "burying it." I suspect some hate-speech charges pending? Caller now says "we need a draft" because "white people don't want their people killed."

The audio makes it seem like Class III weapons not something easily bought or found? Were they licensed? In a trust? Etc, also why does the news mention FBI etc but not BATF in the investigation, one would think they would be one of the first involved.

[21st Century Man]

OK.  To my friends on the left, the type of gun used in this shooting is illegal unless you spend lots of money and can jump through many legal hoops.  Not just anybody can legally own a weapon like this on the open market.

This is a tragedy and the left should not exploit it for political gain.

[Who]

Art Bell's 5,000 Facebook followers are awaiting the all-knowing ones' verdict.  Nothing yet.

[Yorkshire pud]

They are. Callers now blaming guns and calling for bans. "Gun Love" in particular, as one caller put it. So far though no callers mentioned his apparent chronic gambling problem and maybe his targeting of Vegas might have been a motivation? Also, weirdly, his brother said he "liked burritos." Have to love UK tabloids to get to the issues that matter. Meanwhile, in the country you fled, I see some politician claiming Islam is "burying it." I suspect some hate-speech charges pending? Caller now says "we need a draft" because "white people don't want their people killed."

The audio makes it seem like Class III weapons not something easily bought or found? Were they licensed? In a trust? Etc, also why does the news mention FBI etc but not BATF in the investigation, one would think they would be one of the first involved.

I see. Its good that he might have had a gambling problem and not enough weaponry to equip a small platoon that did this. I suppose if he'd been armed with a baseball bat, a couple of rocks he'd have had the same effect.

As for mattering, of course not. If it mattered something will change, but because it doesn't matter, things won't. There is no upper limit. Carry on.

And fleeing the UK? Please. Its happenstance I'm in the US, and not for example Germany or Ireland. Laura has German, Irish and Choctaw in her blood. Could have been on either continent.

[Juan]

The type of weapon that appears to have been used - full automatic - makes me think there’s a terrorism connection. Whether it was manufactured automatic or modified to automatic, the shooter doesn’t seem to have the background to have one.

[Yorkshire pud]

OK.  To my friends on the left, the type of gun used in this shooting is illegal unless you spend lots of money and can jump through many legal hoops.  Not just anybody can legally own a weapon like this on the open market.

This is a tragedy and the left should not exploit it for political gain.

Legal or not it was effective. And the police say he had several rifles in the room, presumably legally owned? A round doesn't know or care if the barrel it came out of was legal or not. They still hurt.

The 'right' will use it for political gain. Wouldn't surprise me if such as Alex Jones will advocate manditory carrying of firearms everywhere you go.

[Yorkshire pud]

Art Bell's 5,000 Facebook followers are awaiting the all-knowing ones' verdict.  Nothing yet.

Give it time, Heather has to call the police yet to get in a report.

[Who]

Legal or not it was effective. And the police say he had several rifles in the room, presumably legally owned? A round doesn't know or care if the barrel it came out of was legal or not. They still hurt.

And we know, of course, that the right-wingers wouldn't exploit this tragedy for political purposes had the shooter been black, muslim or latino. 100 years ago the suspects would have been Catholics, Irish, Italians, Chinese and East European immigrants.

[albrecht]

The type of weapon that appears to have been used - full automatic - makes me think there’s a terrorism connection. Whether it was manufactured automatic or modified to automatic, the shooter doesn’t seem to have the background to have one.

The audio made it seem like Class III, which can be legal but there are more hoops to go through to legally own. I'm surprised that the news isn't investigating that more? Were they legal? Did he have a license? In a trust? Where bought, obtained, etc? Articles don't even mention BATFE but only FBI investigating? Also, to get into conspiracies- what of his wife? That country is hotbed historically of drug dealing, Muslim insurgency, mail-order brides, and crazy and/or strongman politicians.

[albrecht]

And we know, of course, that the right-wingers wouldn't exploit this tragedy for political purposes had the shooter been black, muslim or latino. 100 years ago the suspects would have been Catholics, Irish, Italians, Chinese and East European immigrants.

Has this been ruled out already?

[Zetaspeak]

The conspiracy mongers' response to these events is predictable. Like Pavolv's dogs, the wingnuts will blame it on liberals and globalists. Alex Jones will call it a false-flag operation. The vacuous George Noory will schedule  John Lott Jr., author of More Guns, Less crime on Coast to Crap AM as he did the night of the Sandy Hook massacre.

I was JUST about to write that on the C2C thread. It's not just during Sandy Hook, EVERY time there's a massacre scum bag Noory automatically has an NRA guy (most of the time Lott) blaming the victims. Seriously fuck him.

BTW feel better, Tennessee this year made silencer legel. Because we know the most damaging thing about guns is that noise. We are fucked.

[Who]

The shooter was 64.  Maybe he was just a crazy old white guy and we'll never know what his motivation was.

[chefist]

On the scene reporters say that the two broken out windows belong to one room.

I was curious about that as I heard this going down live on the scanner last night. I thought perhaps he made it to the roof, as the windows in the rooms do not open.

[albrecht]

I was JUST about to write that on the C2C thread. It's not just during Sandy Hook, EVERY time there's a massacre scum bag Noory automatically has an NRA guy (most of the time Lott) blaming the victims. Seriously fuck him.

BTW feel better, Tennessee this year made silencer legel. Because we know the most damaging thing about guns is that noise. We are fucked.

TX just made it legal to carry things like swords!  Not sure if it was the Renaissance Faire, MS-13, or Sikh constituencies but, somehow, it is now legal to carry machetes, swords, etc in public.

ps: one C-SPAN caller just linked this Las Vegas murders to the "Black Wall Street" riots in Tulsa in 1921.  To his credit though it is a little-known history that should be more well known in terms of the country's race relations history but still I can't figure out how that incident relates to these murders? New caller says "more Mind Control is NEEDED."

[Who]

I was JUST about to write that on the C2C thread. It's not just during Sandy Hook, EVERY time there's a massacre scum bag Noory automatically has an NRA guy (most of the time Lott) blaming the victims. Seriously fuck him.

BTW feel better, Tennessee this year made silencer legel. Because we know the most damaging thing about guns is that noise. We are fucked.

I lost all respect for Noory the night of the Sandy Hook massacre. While he was interviewing John Lott, the police were escorting the parents of the dead children, two at a time, into the classrooms to identify their children, still slumped over their desks or on the floor. I cannot imagine anything more horrific. I have nothing but absolute, sheer contempt for George Fucking Noory.

[Hog]

I just heard a report that stated the shooter had a lawsuit against the hotel a few years ago(2014 IIRC) he had tripped and fell on something sticking out of the floor and was suing the hotel. It was said that the suit was dropped by both sides before it went to court.

I just saw this guys brother on TV, he is 10 years his junior 54 IIRC?  Younger brother stated that his phone "lit up" with calls from police.  He and his family have no idea why his brother did this and wants to help or give any insight he/they can.  He sends prayers to all the affected.

I want to know a room number and weapon type(s).  The reports keep stating multiple "rifles" were found in the hotel room.  You'd think that if an actual "machine-gun" was discovered, that would be a hard "buzz word" to keep contained from the media.  I mean most reporters would be jizzing themselves if they got to use the words "machine gun" on TV.
This will be interesting as the facts pan out.

If Walter White can buy an M60, anyone can. 

peace
Hog

[Zetaspeak]

And we know, of course, that the right-wingers wouldn't exploit this tragedy for political purposes had the shooter been black, muslim or latino. 100 years ago the suspects would have been Catholics, Irish, Italians, Chinese and East European immigrants.

Not like there was anybody pushing a Muslim bad after the Pulse massacre or anybody pushing that if those fags were men enough to carry a gun in their pants while dancing none of this would have happened

[crescent fresh]

The fire sounded to erratic to be full auto but it could have been echoing off the walls and making it sound weird on the video, It's more likely he installed a trigger crank.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jif4Wo0LDX8

[Hog]

We just had a crazy, 30-year-old Abdulahi Sharif, attempt to kill 5 people in Edmonton 2 days ago.  He rammed his van into a cop who was standing between a barricade and his police car , then got out and stabbed said officer, then later drove into 4 pedestrians.  An ISIS flag was found in the vehicle.

peace
Hog