Aviation Thread - News, facts, questions, photos, videos, etc.

[Taaroa]

https://twitter.com/SpaethFlies/status/1183056281969549313

https://twitter.com/Rotarywings1/status/1183665495721025536

[albrecht]

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Ha that is nuts.  I noticed on a United flight that the "controls" for the IFE system is in the place of where the old ashtrays were. A quick work-around but dumb design. It sucks because I always hit with my arm or elbow.

Speaking of KLM,I've mentioned before, if you fly the more local routes you might've been flown by the King! (Who later got certified for larger craft) And, for the more juvenile among us, Fokker is always funny to say and make puns.

https://thepointsguy.com/news/klm-passengers-get-royal-treatment-when-king-flies-their-737/ 

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/17/world/europe/king-willem-alexander-pilot.html

[Taaroa]

https://twitter.com/Hoddy1982/status/1184323238136090624

[Uncle Duke]

https://twitter.com/Hoddy1982/status/1184323238136090624

I hope those guys are not sent to rescue me if I'm held hostage about a ship.

[Walks_At_Night]

I hope those guys are not sent to rescue me if I'm held hostage about a ship.

Well no one got wet or Vic Morrowed. 

[Taaroa]

[pate]

WWII era carrier  launching aircraft in heavy seas?  I can't imagine the engines are powerful enough to give the ship/flight deck that pitch.  Cool picture.  Whose ship?

[Taaroa]

WWII era carrier  launching aircraft in heavy seas?  I can't imagine the engines are powerful enough to give the ship/flight deck that pitch.  Cool picture.  Whose ship?

Found more info from reverse searching the image:

This picture of a British escort carrier was taken in the Bay of Biscay in 1944 from the carrier HMS Campania. A Hellcat and a Seafire can be seen on deck, prepared to provide air cover. One of the carriers was carrying a load of Seafires from Belfast to Gibraltar.

http://www.historyofwar.org/Pictures/pictures_escort_carrier_biscay.html

[Hog]

Snowbird #5 crashed in Atlanta a few days ago, the Snowbird pilot Royal Canadian Air Force Capt. Kevin Domon-Grenier successfully rode the Mk.5 Martin Baker ejection seat and survived.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/snowbirds-pilot-safe-after-ejecting-from-plane-in-georgia-crash-1.5320017


This is a 2 year old video of same a/c,Snowbird #5 having a brake fire and getting a good dose of foam and a water rinse. The Canadian show team flies CT-114 Tutors and will be doing so until at least 2030.  The Snowbirds have flown under the name "The Snowbirds" since 1971 and as part of the 431 Air Demonstration Squadron since April 1st, 1978. The RCAF has used the CT-114 from the early 1960 through 2000 as its primary jet trainer, being replaced by the CT-155 Hawk and the US built CT-156 Harvard-II (Beechcraft T-6 Texan II) for Phase 2 and 3 before moving on to the Hawk for Phase 4 and Phase 5-Fighter Lead-In Training, before moving into the CF-18 Hornets.


https://youtu.be/-aFqgNBOs3Q

 

Martin Baker Mk-5 ejection seat

Pictured in his red flightsuit, standing beside his parachute.




The Martin Baker Mk.5 seat is also used in the T-33 Kepler, Skyray, F-84f Thunderflash, F-4 Phantom, A-6 Intruder, Grumman OV-1 Mohawk, F-86 Sabre, F8E-(FN) Crusader, F4-J Fury, Demon and Cougar.

the CT-114 Tutor has a low stall speed of 71 knots with a max. level speed of 422knots/486mph/782kph at sea level and a  max dive speed of 478knots/550mph/885kph and is aerodynamically stable in design.  It's student/instructor seating is side by side, similar to the A-6 Intruder.  This allows the student to take instruction from their teacher to the right and allows the right seated instructor to monitor the students actions on the left.  This isnt as easy for student pilots and instructor pilots in a typical front and rear seat "tandem" seating arrangement(F-14,F-15B/D/E, F-16-B/D/F/I  F-18B/D/F/"G"rowler.

The Tudor is powered by a single Orenda built J85-CAN-40 non-afterburning turbojet engine making 2,650 pounds thrust.

The Canadian CF-5 is powered by 2 x J85-CAN-15 afterburning turbojets built by Orenda in Canada(under license from General Electric) and makes 2,800 lbs/thrust in military and 4,300 lbs/thrust in afterburner.
The CF-5 had an empty weight of  8,700 pounds and a Max Take Of Weight(MTOW) of 20,400 pounds.
The same engine, used in the Northrop F-5 made in the USA by General Electric made 3,500 pounds/thrust in military power/dry and 5,000 pounds/thrust in afterburner/wet.
The F-5 had an empty weight of 15,700 pounds and Max takeoff weight(MTOW) of 24,700 pounds.

I can't believe that these J85 engines only weigh about 400 pounds depending on optional equipment.


I ran across this video of the British, Hawker Siddeley "Nimrod" MR2"Nimrod" that crashed in 1995 in Lake Ontario.  7 crewmembers were killed.  These beasts were armed with US nuclear B57 bombs with special hydrostatic fuzes to operate as nuclear "depth charges" for Anti Submarine usage.  Tyhe B-57 was also carried by the Canadian CF-104's that we had stationed over in West Germany. The B-57 yields varied from 5 through 20 kilotons equivalent explosive power of TNT.

https://youtu.be/Yg7tii8C4Xw


Nimrod MR2 in a bank at the Royal International Air Tattoo, 2006


peace
Hog

[Uncle Duke]

Snowbird #5 crashed in Atlanta a few days ago, the Snowbird pilot Royal Canadian Air Force Capt. Kevin Domon-Grenier successfully rode the Mk.5 Martin Baker ejection seat and survived.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/snowbirds-pilot-safe-after-ejecting-from-plane-in-georgia-crash-1.5320017


This is a 2 year old video of same a/c,Snowbird #5 having a brake fire and getting a good dose of foam and a water rinse. The Canadian show team flies CT-114 Tutors and will be doing so until at least 2030.  The Snowbirds have flown under the name "The Snowbirds" since 1971 and as part of the 431 Air Demonstration Squadron since April 1st, 1978. The RCAF has used the CT-114 from the early 1960 through 2000 as its primary jet trainer, being replaced by the CT-155 Hawk and the US built CT-156 Harvard-II (Beechcraft T-6 Texan II) for Phase 2 and 3 before moving on to the Hawk for Phase 4 and Phase 5-Fighter Lead-In Training, before moving into the CF-18 Hornets.


https://youtu.be/-aFqgNBOs3Q

 

Martin Baker Mk-5 ejection seat

Pictured in his red flightsuit, standing beside his parachute.




The Martin Baker Mk.5 seat is also used in the T-33 Kepler, Skyray, F-84f Thunderflash, F-4 Phantom, A-6 Intruder, Grumman OV-1 Mohawk, F-86 Sabre, F8E-(FN) Crusader, F4-J Fury, Demon and Cougar.

the CT-114 Tutor has a low stall speed of 71 knots with a max. level speed of 422knots/486mph/782kph at sea level and a  max dive speed of 478knots/550mph/885kph and is aerodynamically stable in design.  It's student/instructor seating is side by side, similar to the A-6 Intruder.  This allows the student to take instruction from their teacher to the right and allows the right seated instructor to monitor the students actions on the left.  This isnt as easy for student pilots and instructor pilots in a typical front and rear seat "tandem" seating arrangement(F-14,F-15B/D/E, F-16-B/D/F/I  F-18B/D/F/"G"rowler.

The Tudor is powered by a single Orenda built J85-CAN-40 non-afterburning turbojet engine making 2,650 pounds thrust.

peace
Hog

The handful of RCAF Tutors must be the only operational a/c still using the Mk 5 seat, all the other a/c in that list have been retired.  The F-4s had their Mk 5's replaced by the 0/0 Mk 7s relatively early on.

It must cost the RCAF a mint to fly and maintain such a minimal fleet of an aircraft type, no economy of scale for spares.  I'd guess they kept a small number of the retired Tutors in storage as attrition aircraft and to cannibalize for some spares.  I know they are paying Martin Baker through the nose for the energetics used on the seats, you can only buy those from Martin Baker and they guarantee them for only a two year service life.  Martin Baker also usually only sells their energetics in ship sets instead of individually as a function of time expiration.  And again, with such a small fleet, no economy of scale. 

[Taaroa]

https://twitter.com/mod_russia/status/1187041625916264448


https://youtu.be/FfCRj7T6ybA

[Taaroa]

https://twitter.com/LostWeapons/status/1188261234795134976

[Hog]

The handful of RCAF Tutors must be the only operational a/c still using the Mk 5 seat, all the other a/c in that list have been retired.  The F-4s had their Mk 5's replaced by the 0/0 Mk 7s relatively early on.

It must cost the RCAF a mint to fly and maintain such a minimal fleet of an aircraft type, no economy of scale for spares.  I'd guess they kept a small number of the retired Tutors in storage as attrition aircraft and to cannibalize for some spares.  I know they are paying Martin Baker through the nose for the energetics used on the seats, you can only buy those from Martin Baker and they guarantee them for only a two year service life.  Martin Baker also usually only sells their energetics in ship sets instead of individually as a function of time expiration.  And again, with such a small fleet, no economy of scale.

I can only trace the Tudor ejection seat as being the same seat as was used in the F-J4 Fury  or F-86  which according to the Martin Baker site, both the F-J4 and the F-86 used the Martin Baker Mark-5 seat. EDIT was also to be used in the Avro Arrow.
 
Only 2 year service life, wow, as you say that can't be a small contract moneywise.

There were 212 CT-114 Tudors built(per Wiki)(plus an unknown amount of Attack versions that could carry 4,000lbs of munitions underwing. In 1976 113 were selected  for avionics upgrades and an external fuel tank.  By 1998 there were 120 still in service with RCAF and the type was retired from front line training duties.
"By 2019, there were 24 examples registered as in service with the RCAF. With a number kept in long term storage to replace Snowbird variants" Wiki

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Hog

[Walks_At_Night]

Just learned today that a new movie on the Battle of Midway will soon be released.   Went to look for the trailer and came across this. 
The hosts do not seem very impressed that the TBD's are carrying both torpedo's and bombs at the same time.   


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOXWSSfbNTo

[ItsOver]

Just learned today that a new movie on the Battle of Midway will soon be released.   Went to look for the trailer and came across this. 
The hosts do not seem very impressed that the TBD's are carrying both torpedo's and bombs at the same time.   


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOXWSSfbNTo

I've seen the TV commercials for this movie.  From those, it looks like another CGI-video game-fest.  I think I'll stick with this version.

[albrecht]

I've seen the TV commercials for this movie.  From those, it looks like another CGI-video game-fest.  I think I'll stick with this version.

Yep, which will likely be in heavy rotation on the free antenna-based movie channels!  Even if Fonda spawned a generation of commies. Like this one which was much better, and free, than the Ben Affleck vehicle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_(miniseries)

[ItsOver]

Yep, which will likely be in heavy rotation on the free antenna-based movie channels!  Even if Fonda spawned a generation of commies. Like this one which was much better, and free, than the Ben Affleck vehicle.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pearl_(miniseries)

Heston, Henry Fonda (screw his kommie kids), Mitchum, Coburn, Glenn Ford, Cliff Robertson...I don't know why Hollywood even bothers with a redo.  I can't wait for them to do "Gone With The Wind," with Taylor Swift as Scarlett.

[Walks_At_Night]

I've seen the TV commercials for this movie.  From those, it looks like another CGI-video game-fest.  I think I'll stick with this version.

Oh yeah. No doubt.   Henry Fonda, Charlton Heston, Hal Holbrook, Robert Wagner, Glenn Ford, etc   the new one has a bunch of guys named Ed Skrein.

The CGI stuff almost never looks convincing to me.


Edit:   Whoops I about duplicated ItsOver     

[ItsOver]

Oh yeah. No doubt.   Henry Fonda, Charlton Heston, Hal Holbrook, Robert Wagner, Glenn Ford, etc   the new one has a bunch of guys named Ed Skrein.

The CGI stuff almost never looks convincing to me.


Edit:   Whoops I about duplicated ItsOver     

Ha!  Agree, especially with CGI.  Hollyweird seems to use it to make up for bad acting, bad writing, bad directing, etc.  With over-done and over-wrought CGI, I feel like I'm just watching a cartoon.  Compare today's CGI with something from the 1930's.  This still makes my gut tighten.


https://youtu.be/RQWSh7Db-_E

[Walks_At_Night]

Absolutely.  Even Tora! Tora! Tora!



I've read that was a real goat screw of a scene and some of those guys almost got whacked for real.

[albrecht]

Absolutely.  Even Tora! Tora! Tora!



I've read that was a real goat screw of a scene and some of those guys almost got whacked for real.

Ouch. That looks like a potential Vic Morrow, and unnamed Oriental kids* killed, filming situation.   

* now they are named. And parents settled for an "undisclosed amount." Lawyer gets a 1/3, usually.

[albrecht]

Ha!  Agree, especially with CGI.  Hollyweird seems to use it to make up for bad acting, bad writing, bad directing, etc.  With over-done and over-wrought CGI, I feel like I'm just watching a cartoon.  Compare today's CGI with something from the 1930's.  This still makes my gut tighten.


https://youtu.be/RQWSh7Db-_E

Now they just churn them out and use computers and drug-added actors. Sure, Hollywood was always a cesspool but the used to make good films and had some real talent. Look at the example you posted!

On subject

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrVY8ukOl88

[Walks_At_Night]

Ouch. That looks like a potential Vic Morrow, and unnamed Oriental kids* killed, filming situation.   

* now they are named. And parents settled for an "undisclosed amount." Lawyer gets a 1/3, usually.

Yeah.  Here is the story


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS_da33g5ac

[albrecht]

Yeah.  Here is the story


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WS_da33g5ac

Wow. The running or ducking didn't LOOK like acting. And they loaded up with gas for more bang. Geez, as Norry would say.

[ItsOver]

Now they just churn them out and use computers and drug-added actors. Sure, Hollywood was always a cesspool but the used to make good films and had some real talent. Look at the example you posted!

On subject

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrVY8ukOl88

Yes, indeed.  I'll just go back to watching the classics.  I still discover ones I haven't seen.  Caught "Niagara" on Sunday night.  The first movie that had Monroe top billed.  It puts to shame over 90% of the crap Hollywood spits out today.

[Kidnostad3]

As I write this the USAF Thunderbirds Aerial Demonstration Team is flying maneuvers nearby as part of an annual air show here in SW Florida.  (Last year it was the Blue Angels.)   The sight and sound of fighter a/c operating overhead using "military power" is nothing new to me but it still gives me a major rush. Just sayin'.

[Taaroa]

https://twitter.com/AeronewsGlobal/status/1190209891778072576

[Dr. MD MD]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQN4hId5psg&t=639s

[DigitalPigSnuggler]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQN4hId5psg&t=639s

the youtube videos that make up 90% of your posts on this site.

[Dr. MD MD]

The obsessed faggot is strong in this one.