Aviation Thread - News, facts, questions, photos, videos, etc.

[Innerreach]

https://heavy.com/news/2020/06/peter-pry-china-emp-attack/

https://imgur.com/HWEIjF6

[pate]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyWUc6wIeu0&feature=emb_logo

https://youtu.be/X6RcCpsFAl0

[ItsOver]

The veteran spyplane too valuable to replace

https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20201210-lockheed-u-2-spyplane

[Taaroa]

https://youtu.be/9aJai8loUo8

[Taaroa]

https://twitter.com/alexrblackwell/status/1340040468399177728

[Walks_At_Night]

Stout, balding guy with glasses and a goat. Not what you think of as an Eagle pilot but he has more post-Vietnam kills than any US pilot.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=getlNBgBwjs

[Uncle Duke]

Stout, balding guy with glasses and a goat. Not what you think of as an Eagle pilot but he has more post-Vietnam kills than any US pilot.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=getlNBgBwjs

Back in the late 90s I worked with a stout, bald guy with a scrubby beard who'd been a USN SEAL in SEA. He played Santa Claus in the organizational Christmas party a couple years. Good guy, but with a noticeable hint of badass.

[Walks_At_Night]

Going back to the F-16 crash in the U.P. - a guy got this snippet off the police scanner at the time. Supposedly it is a Michigan State Trooper describing a "yuge" crater:

https://vocaroo.com/15JzsaskDgUv

An Escanaba based 4chan anon supposedly went out to the crash site recently and found. Exactly that. A big crater. I don't know much about aircraft crash sites but that is a golly whopper of a hole. Would they dig the area out with an excavator to get any small debris or hazardous muck out?  Of course it could be just a hole in the woods - I will say the soil and trees look right for the area. That mixture of birch and scrub pine is what typically fills in an area up there after it has been logged out years before and that sure looks like good old Kalkaska Soil which is just a fancy phrase for sandy dirt.  It would have been nice to see if those tree stumps were fresh. If so, someone did a decent amount of work to clear that area out to get at the wreckage.

[pate]

... I don't know much about aircraft crash sites but that is a golly whopper of a hole...

They are often colloquially referred to as "smoking holes in the ground," not much of a scalar reference there...

Looks deep though.  Wonder if there are more pictures of that particular site?  Sounds remote for excavation equipment, I suppose a Chinook could easily "sling-load" something north of a BobCat in there.  Wow.

Crashes suck;  I got to stare at the wreckage of a Kiowa Warrior in our hangar for a month or so while they conducted the crash investigation:  Target Fixation into the side of a mountain, no survivors.  Did not know the crew, but it still bummed me out.

Part of our duty was to "guard" it and not let anybody mess with it, but I admit that I let some of the guys from the crew's unit in to take a look... Even politely turned my back and went outside for a smoke to let them hang out for awhile.  Shitty stuff, crashes that you don't walk away from...

-p

[Walks_At_Night]

They are often colloquially referred to as "smoking holes in the ground," not much of a scalar reference there...

Looks deep though.  Wonder if there are more pictures of that particular site?  Sounds remote for excavation equipment, I suppose a Chinook could easily "sling-load" something north of a BobCat in there.  Wow.

Crashes suck;  I got to stare at the wreckage of a Kiowa Warrior in our hangar for a month or so while they conducted the crash investigation:  Target Fixation into the side of a mountain, no survivors.  Did not know the crew, but it still bummed me out.

Part of our duty was to "guard" it and not let anybody mess with it, but I admit that I let some of the guys from the crew's unit in to take a look... Even politely turned my back and went outside for a smoke to let them hang out for awhile.  Shitty stuff, crashes that you don't walk away from...

-p

Sounds beyond terrible pate.   

Any insight as to what the hell is going on in this clip from Cali tonight?


https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1341562562819723264/pu/vid/360x500/0dH0FrCI5GHBu7lf.mp4

[Walks_At_Night]

A less shitty view but doesn't make a hard turn like the first clip:
https://mobile.twitter.com/JadexxRose/status/1341557628493647877

[Walks_At_Night]

Best look so far.  SMF software really hates streamable.com links,so posting it this way.

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https://streamable.com/gdqdxn

[Uncle Duke]

Going back to the F-16 crash in the U.P. - a guy got this snippet off the police scanner at the time. Supposedly it is a Michigan State Trooper describing a "yuge" crater:

https://vocaroo.com/15JzsaskDgUv

An Escanaba based 4chan anon supposedly went out to the crash site recently and found. Exactly that. A big crater. I don't know much about aircraft crash sites but that is a golly whopper of a hole. Would they dig the area out with an excavator to get any small debris or hazardous muck out?  Of course it could be just a hole in the woods - I will say the soil and trees look right for the area. That mixture of birch and scrub pine is what typically fills in an area up there after it has been logged out years before and that sure looks like good old Kalkaska Soil which is just a fancy phrase for sandy dirt.  It would have been nice to see if those tree stumps were fresh. If so, someone did a decent amount of work to clear that area out to get at the wreckage.

Yes they would dig out pieces of the mishap a/c, especially if there were hazardous materials, munitions, or human remains not accounted for.  F-16 crash sites are particularly scrubbed due to the hydrazine used to power the a/c APU.

The field of view of that photo is fairly narrow, hard to tell if that's a crash site.  My initial thought is no, but without being able to see a wider, bigger picture view it's difficult to say.  I've seen debris fields that stretch for hundreds of yards, as well as crash sites where the a/c went in near vertically that leave the proverbial smoking hole.

[Uncle Duke]

A less shitty view but doesn't make a hard turn like the first clip:
https://mobile.twitter.com/JadexxRose/status/1341557628493647877

I'd guess space junk reentering the atmosphere, but it could be a meteor.

[Ciardelo]

I'd guess space junk reentering the atmosphere, but it could be a meteor.

It makes a pretty fancy turn in the first video...so flappy space junk?

[Walks_At_Night]

I'd guess space junk reentering the atmosphere, but it could be a meteor.

I'm sure you are right. Damn it though - why don't I ever see anything like that?

https://www.facebook.com/104909169548877/videos/516616359242105/

[Ciardelo]

I'm hoping it's a confirmed kill of a CCP satellite from our new Space Force.

[Walks_At_Night]

I'm hoping it's a confirmed kill of a CCP satellite from our new Space Force.

Some are saying it is a skydiver with a flare. That would explain that turn but seems like that is one hell of a flare.

[Walks_At_Night]

I'll just leave this here and flee:
https://twitter.com/NuneVajrapani/status/1341009652046184449

[Ciardelo]

Say wut?? This can't be good.

https://twitter.com/NuneVajrapani/status/1341469536155959297

[Uncle Duke]

Some are saying it is a skydiver with a flare. That would explain that turn but seems like that is one hell of a flare.

That actually makes sense, Lake Elsinore is a big sport parachuting area.

[Walks_At_Night]

That actually makes sense, Lake Elsinore is a big sport parachuting area.

Yeah. California hasn't had a raging, out of control inferno yet this week so lets allow some maniac to jump out of a plane with pyrotechnics.
They really are nutso out there Duke.

[pate]

Sounds beyond terrible pate.   

Any insight as to what the hell is going on in this clip from Cali tonight?


https://video.twimg.com/ext_tw_video/1341562562819723264/pu/vid/360x500/0dH0FrCI5GHBu7lf.mp4

Looks like something burning up on re-entry.  Maybe it is related to the Ursid Meteor Shower?

https://www.timeanddate.com/astronomy/meteor-shower/ursids.html

Supposed to be stuff from the "8P/Tuttle" comet, maybe a chunk of ice with methane and crap that burns really nice and provides a little thrust to make it move funky when a big chunk gets exposed on entry?

I haven't the slightest clue, and that is my best WAG at what it might be.

Maybe it is a portal?  Neat.



-p

[K_Dubb]

Some are saying it is a skydiver with a flare. That would explain that turn but seems like that is one hell of a flare.

There was an incident in Seattle when I was a kid where a twin-engine plane flew over streaming tails of fire from each, went right over our house and I happened to be in the back yard at the time.  Was a prank.

[K_Dubb]

Or I should say, rather, an air-show stunt that is usually not done outside of that context because it alarms the public.

[Walks_At_Night]

There was an incident in Seattle when I was a kid where a twin-engine plane flew over streaming tails of fire from each, went right over our house and I happened to be in the back yard at the time.  Was a prank.

I would have loved to see that. I never see nothing man. Not even a single, lousy, gigantic Chinese fireball....................

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1341856084642951169

[Walks_At_Night]

I've never seen a flying man at 3,000 feet either but these folks did:

View this post on Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/p/CJHqWoeBiLr/

[Hog]

Ursids move at 33 km/sec or 73,800mph.

For comparison the Chelyabinsk meteor was travelling at 19 km/sec or approx 40,000mph.

https://youtu.be/VPFSyokDrec

That UFO "appears"  to be travelling too slow for a meteor.


The Space Force Reserves were given their 24 hour notice 6 hours ago.

peace
Hog

[Innerreach]

Nashville Skies Declared National Defense Airspace, Deadly Force Authorized Against Aircraft Entering No-Fly Zone

https://www.westernjournal.com/nashville-skies-declared-national-defense-airspace-deadly-force-authorized-aircraft-entering-no-fly-zone/?

[Innerreach]

Failed ICBM over Tennessee.. Bruh, it's getting real.

https://rumble.com/vc72pj-what-in-the-helicopter-is-this.html?mref=5z34n&mrefc=3

https://rumble.com/embed/v9kwiv/?pub=4

Nashville explosion was actually a missile strike, and the target was the AT&T / NSA hardened switching facility “spy hub”

https://www.naturalnews.com/2020-12-26-nashville-explosion-was-actually-a-missile-strike-att-nsa-spy-hub.html