Critical Omissions with Douglas Dietrich

[Gunner65]

I don't doubt any evidence you have that proves ddd is nothing but a liar. Keep up with your endeavors,

I will. But spread my research where and when you can. Otherwise my efforts may not be considered And there may be others beyond myself,

[Gunner65]

Dietrich is a lying little pussy. And he cannot defend himself.  We at Bellgab know we have exposed Dietrich! And he has no defense!

[sneaksie-taffer]

"Uh, uh, uhhhhh, the japs meant to lose 4 aircraft carriers at Midway, Yeah, that's the ticket. Aircraft carriers are overrated and just slow down the battle groups. Yeah, that's it." -ddd

WW 2 aircraft carriers were the Battlestar Galactica of their day. Now if they only had women on board and a tiki bar that would have been even nicer. The Brits and the Russians were able to have booze on their ships.

[Gunner65]

Dietrich has demonstrated he is clueless

40 guests are witness to it

[Gunner65]

WW 2 aircraft carriers were the Battlestar Galactica of their day. Now if they only had women on board and a tiki bar that would have been even nicer. The Brits and the Russians were able to have booze on their ships.

So do the Italians who serve wine   

[Pelayo]

Ha! Listen to the last half hour or so of ddd's rambling shit show.It's difficult to tell since he bounces around from one thing to the next, but it sounds like he is now claiming to be something like a god if not God himself. He has gone off the deep edge.

[MV/Liberace!]

Ha! Listen to the last half hour or so of ddd's rambling shit show.It's difficult to tell since he bounces around from one thing to the next, but it sounds like he is now claiming to be something like a god if not God himself. He has gone off the deep edge.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ZUlq0lil1w

[Gunner65]

Dietrich has definitely gone "off the edge".  Claiming Michael Aquino is responsible for all the problems in the world and the only person to save the world is Douglas Dietrich himself, the unknown "son of Adolf Hitler", and "U-Boat Captain", and unless you donate money to him, the world will end.

Total insane bullshit! I expect Dietrich will continue to wallow in his own shit while people continue to "fact-check" him. 

[Walks_At_Night]

Dietrich has definitely gone "off the edge".  Claiming Michael Aquino is responsible for all the problems in the world and the only person to save the world is Douglas Dietrich himself, the unknown "son of Adolf Hitler", and "U-Boat Captain", and unless you donate money to him, the world will end.

Total insane bullshit! I expect Dietrich will continue to wallow in his own shit while people continue to "fact-check" him.

U-Boat Captain?  WTH?  That's new.

[sneaksie-taffer]

Dietrich has been watching too much "Das Boot" . Of course he should realize that most of the U-Boat crews ended up on the bottom of the Atlantic ocean. Primitive diesel subs like U-Boats were never meant to be used in deep water operations since their noisy diesel engines could be heard for miles by the enemy sound detection systems and the battery used when underwater is only good for a few hours and needed to be recharged on the surface with those noisy diesel engines. The odds of returning from a U-boat mission was not good.

[sneaksie-taffer]

Dietrich claimed he purchased storable foods to eat if the power went out and he could not cook. So far San Francisco has not had a blackout despite the fires and likely won't since the city is not affected by the fires. So it is likely that Dietrich is lying about the storable foods in order to get some sympathy. I hope Moon finishes that book about Dietrich which will expose Dietrich as a liar and con artist although I believe the book will try to remain neutral on that possibility and let the reader decide. Moon usually don't take sides with the people he writes about but encourages the reader to have an open mind.

[WOTR]

Dietrich claimed he purchased storable foods to eat if the power went out and he could not cook. So far San Francisco has not had a blackout despite the fires and likely won't since the city is not affected by the fires. So it is likely that Dietrich is lying about the storable foods in order to get some sympathy. I hope Moon finishes that book about Dietrich which will expose Dietrich as a liar and con artist although I believe the book will try to remain neutral on that possibility and let the reader decide. Moon usually don't take sides with the people he writes about but encourages the reader to have an open mind.

Somebody is writing a book about a relatively obscure "radio" personality? Is there a ready made audience for this book where it has a chance to sell more than a dozen copies?

It seems somewhat foolish... Kind of like contributing to a board dedicated to a deceased host of a radio show that could never recapture it's golden years... 

With that said, this "moon" person must have to wade through weeks of crap in order to unearth the gems for his / her book. That is dedication.

[Gunner65]

With that said, this "moon" person must have to wade through weeks of crap in order to unearth the gems for his / her book. That is dedication.

Peter Moon aka Vince Barbarick worked on "the Montauk Project" books with Preston Nichols back in the 1990's.  Although it was briefly popular, the debunking of the "Philadelphia Experiment" as a hoax predicated by Al Bielick and others led to serious scrutiny of the "Montauk Project" as well.  (Moon had also worked with Al Bielick).  Moon and the Montauk Project have received a serious debunking as well in recent years and in many ways, he is now just as obscure as Dietrich, and even admits it.

Moon plans to collaborate with Dietrich on "Roswell and the Rising Sun", Dietrich's piss poor presentation of Japanese airmen in balloons being killed by Americans at Roswell and not aliens in UFO's.  This outrageous claim is connected 9f course to his claims that the Japanese won WW2.
I am sure that bullshit will be quite a hit with the UFO/Conspiracy community these days.

He also said he wants to publish about Dietrich's involvement in the Presidio child abuse scandal and Michael Aquino. He will have a tough time finding evidence of that beyond Dietrich's lies.  I have already proven Dietrich had no involvement with either the child abuse scandal or Michael Aquino and the Presidio.  I hope they consider the scrutiny they will definitely face by publishing anything Dietrich claims.  If I can prove it's bullshit, you can bet there are plenty of credentialed historians and investigators who will do a better job of exposing him to a lot more people.

[sneaksie-taffer]

I don't think Moon will write about or even add to Dietrich's Roswell and the Rising Sun ideas. If he does it would be a serious mistake and might even ruin his career as a writer. I am sure he does not want to offend the memory of or sacrifice of those veterans that gave their lives for this nation. I believe the book will be about mostly Dietrich, perhaps sort of a biography...LOL.....even though it's likely all fake but that's not too important. It is the insane ideas of Dietrich that Moon is likely wanting to focus on then leave the decision of it's validity to the reader. Moon is just the messenger and not the message so put away your daggers please.

[sneaksie-taffer]

A good title for a book about DD is:
Douglas Duane Dietrich
An Anatomy of a Liar.

[sneaksie-taffer]

Hey WOTR,
Dietrich certainly is not obscure to those of us on BellGab. But for everyone else Dietrich means nothing to them. Just a kook and a liar as far as they are concerned.

[sneaksie-taffer]

The one thing I posted before is that it is puzzling as to why of all the people in this world that Dietrich chose Michael Aquino to vent his hatred on. What is this man to him anyway? Aquino appears a little weird with his eyebrows but he seems unassuming and keeps a low profile. Has Dietrich crossed paths with him in the past? Was there communication or some activity between them? Aquino denies ever having met Dietrich and calls him a liar and a kook. Dietrich is a liar and a kook but if he never had any dealings with Aquino why keep up this charade for all these years if it has no benefits for him to do so? Something about Aquino bothers Dietrich and perhaps there might have been some past activities of Aquino that might have had an indirect effect on Dietrich. Aquino did mention that he was heavily involved in mind control research during the seventies and if Dietrich feels he was a victim of mind control which he did claim on air a few times then it stands to reason that Dietrich blames Aquino for some of the things that happened to him although he may not be able to prove it.

[Walks_At_Night]

Dietrich has definitely gone "off the edge".  Claiming Michael Aquino is responsible for all the problems in the world and the only person to save the world is Douglas Dietrich himself, the unknown "son of Adolf Hitler", and "U-Boat Captain", and unless you donate money to him, the world will end.

Total insane bullshit! I expect Dietrich will continue to wallow in his own shit while people continue to "fact-check" him.

Bwahh  Bwaahh   Dietrich had a clean shot at my Old Man and missed!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kL3V0k-pk5c

[Gunner65]

Dietrich Disinformation and the Presidio Lies
Part One:  "The United Nations was created at the Presidio in 1942" Lie

One of Douglas Dietrich's longest-held claims has been that the United Nations was created at the Presidio, San Francisco, CA in 1942. The claim may be more accurately described, however, as dis-information intended to reinforce his other false claims about his own involvement with the Presidio and his claim that the United States surrendered to Japan in  1952.

Dietrich's obsession with the Presidio is apparent in his pathetic efforts to establish any credibility for which to base his outrageous claims. Just as pathetic is the failure of his audience to fact-check him when such efforts would take only a matter of minutes.

Dietrich's Claims:

1.  The United Nations was created at the Presidio, San Francisco, CA in 1942.
2.  The United Nations Conference was held at the Presidio.
3.  The United Nations was Headquartered at the Presidio

History of the United Nations

The name "United Nations", coined by United States President Franklin D. Roosevelt was first used in the Declaration by United Nations of 1 January 1942, during the Second World War, when representatives of 26 nations pledged their Governments to continue fighting together against the Axis Powers.
https://www.un.org/en/sections/history-united-nations-charter/1942-declaration-united-nations/index.html


UN Photo/Historical Photo

The complete alliance thus effected was in the light of the principles of the Atlantic Charter, and the first clause of the United Nations Declaration reads that the signatory nations had: subscribed to a common program of purposes and principles embodied in the Joint Declaration of the President of the United States of America and the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland dated August 14, 1941, known as the Atlantic Charter.

1944-1945: Dumbarton Oaks and Yalta:

The Conference on Security Organization for Peace in the Post-War World constituted the first important step taken to carry out paragraph 4 of the Moscow Declaration of 1943, which recognized the need for a postwar international organization to succeed the League of Nations.

For this purpose, representatives of China, Great Britain, the USSR and the United States met for a business-like conference at Dumbarton Oaks, a private mansion in Georgetown, Washington, D. C. The discussions were completed on October 7, 1944, and a proposal for the structure of the world organization was submitted by the four powers to all the United Nations governments and to the peoples of all countries for their study and discussion.


Dunbarton Oaks, Georgetown Washington, D.C.


UN Photo/Historical Photo: Conference on Security Organization for Peace in the Post-War World

One important gap in the Dumbarton Oaks proposals had yet to be filled: the voting procedure in the Security Council. This was done at Yalta in the Crimea where Churchill, Roosevelt and Stalin, together with their foreign ministers and chiefs of staff, met in conference. On February 11, 1945, the conference announced that this question had been resolved, and it summoned the San Francisco Conference.


UN Photo/Historical Photo: Leaders of the major allied powers of World War II meeting at Yalta in the Russian Crimea to decide on military plans for the final defeat of Germany.

1945: The San Francisco Conference:

In the spring of 1945, the United Nations had its San Francisco Conference (UN Conference on International Organization) first organizing assembly there. The UN Charter was later drafted and signed in the San Francisco War Memorial Opera House and  Herbst Theatre next door. Six years later in 1951, the Treaty of San Francisco, declaring peace with Japan was also drafted and signed there and in the Herbst Theatre.


San Francisco War Memorial Opera House

Although the Presidio was one of many sites considered for a potential UN Headquarters,  it was never chosen and was never used as a previous temporary site.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headquarters_of_the_United_Nations

[Gunner65]

Dietrich Disinformation and the Presidio Lies: Part Two

Every public appearance and presentation by Douglas Dietrich since 2008 has been a feeble, poorly disguised attempt to convince his audience that the Allies lost WW2 and the Axis won.  His contempt and disdain for his audiences and angry method of delivery is evident in every presentation.


Slide shown at ending of Dietrich's presentations)

                                                      "The End"
                                "EMBRACE DEFEAT AND GO IN PEACE"

Dietrich's claims:

1. The surrender of Japan never occurred and the ceremony aboard the USS Missouri was a staged hoax and a satanic ritual "because the Japanese were not carrying swords and the American flag displayed was illegal, with upside-down stars and Satanic."

2. The flag used for the ceremony displayed on the USS Missouri is proof.

3. The Treaty of San Francisco and Security Treaty were signed at the Presidio.

4.  The Treaty of San Francisco and Security Treaty were proof of a formal surrender by the Allies to the Japanese and required the Allies to pay reparations to the Japanese.

All Japanese Officer swords had already been surrendered or seized prior to the official ceremony aboard the USS Missouri.   It's common knowledge that World War II formally ended with the signing of the Instrument of Surrender aboard the USS Missouri in Tokyo Bay on Sept. 2, 1945.

The flag which was displayed on the starboard veranda deck of the USS Missouri was the same flag flown by Commodore Mathew Perry's ship in 1853-54 during the forced opening of Japanese ports to foreign trade.

The flag was displayed backward, and the stars not "upside-down" as Dietrich claims, but with it's "reverse side" showing.  All US flags which are on the right of an object, aircraft, ship or person are displayed with the star field to the upper right corner so the flag appears to be heading forward.

"Two American flags were hoisted on the deck for the surrender ceremony in 1945. One had flown on the mast of Commodore Matthew Perry's ship when he sailed into Tokyo Bay in 1853 to encourage Japan to open its ports to foreign trade.

Nearly a century later, that flag was so fragile that the conservator at the Naval Academy Museum directed that a protective backing be sewn on it, leaving its "wrong side" visible. The flag was flown that way for the surrender ceremony, and that's why its replica appears that way on the Missouri today."
http://archives.starbulletin.com/2007/08/26/travel/tsutsumi.html

Commodore Perry's Flag 1853 and 1945

"In July of 1853, Commodore Matthew Perry entered Tokyo Bay with a squadron of then-modern warships flying this 31-star flag to secure a treaty with Japan. His success led to formal diplomatic ties, access of ports by American ships, aid for shipwrecked American sailors, commercial trade, and the opening of Japan to other Western nations.

Ninety-two years later, at the request of Perry's cousin, General Douglas MacArthur, the flag was transported from Annapolis, Maryland, to be on hand for the surrender ceremony of the Japanese ending World War II. The 9,500-mile trip took 120 hours and covered 12 time zones. The courier, who orders required him to keep the wooden box containing the flag in his sight at all times, slept with it, ate with it, and even took it with him in the bathroom.

The flag had been on display at the museum at Annapolis where conservators had mounted cotton to its mildew damaged front side to prevent the flag from breaking apart and then mounted it backward to hide the damage. The flag case was mounted on the bulkhead of the Battleship Missouri overlooking the ceremony. After its 120 hour trip, the courier slept for two days missing the 25 minute ceremony.

Notice the irregular star field, a common feature in 19th century flags when there were no design standards. In this case, they apparently just stuffed the extra star into the first column to get 31 stars and the stars are all tilted to the left."
https://documentingreality.com/forum/f240/incredible-journey-commodore-perrys-flag-1853-1946-a-91621/


(Scene from the Japanese Surrender Ceremony aboard the USS Missouri (BB-63). "The flag Admiral Perry carried to Japan many years ago." Tokyo Bay, Japan. 2 September 1945)
https://www.ww2online.org/image/commodore-matthew-perrys-american-flag-aboard-uss-missouri-bb-63-tokyo-bay-japan-2-september


https://www.pinterest.com/pin/485333297313857462/







The flag is neither illegal or improper.  According to USC Title 4 : "Definition of flag- stars," There is no legal stipulation regarding the type of orientation of stars on the US flag.  A later Presidential Executive Order that details the speculation for US flags used by the Federal Government states the points should "face upward".  It is, however, not law.

In fact a similar star pattern is also seen on the original "Star-Spangled Banner"

The stars are oriented in a "back and forth" pattern row to row.  The points on top are slightly canted to "the fly," the second row toward "the hoist, and so on. A pattern in those days referred to as "dancing stars."



The Treaty of San Francisco and Security Treaty with Japan:

The Treaty of San Francisco, also called the Treaty of Peace with Japan, re-established peaceful relations between Japan and the Allied Powers after World War II. It was officially signed by 49 nations on September 8, 1951, in San Francisco, California at the War Memorial Opera House.[1] It came into force on April 28, 1952, and officially ended the American-led Allied occupation of Japan. According to Article 11 of the treaty, Japan accepts the judgments of the International Military Tribunal for the Far East and of other Allied War Crimes Courts imposed on Japan both within and outside Japan.[2]

This treaty served to officially end Japan's position as an imperial power, to allocate compensation to Allied civilians and former prisoners of war who had suffered Japanese war crimes during World War II, and to end the Allied post-war occupation of Japan and return full sovereignty to that nation. This treaty made extensive use of the United Nations Charter[3] and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights[4] to enunciate the Allies' goals.

This treaty, along with the Security Treaty signed that same day, is said to mark the beginning of the San Francisco System; this term, coined by historian John W. Dower, signifies the effects of Japan's relationship with the United States and its role in the international arena as determined by these two treaties and is used to discuss the ways in which these effects have governed Japan's post-war history.

This treaty also introduced the problem of the legal status of Taiwan due to its lack of specificity as to what country Taiwan was to be surrendered, and hence some supporters of Taiwan independence argue that sovereignty of Taiwan is still undetermined.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_San_Francisco

Conclusion:

The formal surrender of the Japanese aboard the USS Missouri in Tokyo Bay was no hoax and the Perry flag displayed during the ceremony was niether improper nor illegal and certainly had nothing to do with any "satanic" symbolism or ritual. Douglas Dietrichs' claim that the United States surrendered to Japan on September 8, 1951, is unsubstantiated bullshit. And so is his claim that it occurred "on-site the Presidio."

Dietrichs' references in his shows to the courier who transported the Perry flag from Annapolis, MD to Tokyo, Japan for the surrender ceremony, is proof that Dietrich knows what the true history is, but has intentionally twisted it for his own purposes of disinformation and deceit.

[Gunner65]

This post continues to be edited: https://rkcolejr.blogspot.com/2019/11/dietrich-disinformation-and-presidio.html


https://www.historynet.com/altar-of-peace-symbolism-at-japanese-surreder-ceremony.htm


"Meticulous planning included estimating the time needed for the Japanese delegation’s leaderâ€"Foreign Minister Mamoru Shigemitsu (with cane, left), who had a wooden legâ€"to walk to the veranda deck. Large documents (right) necessitated a last-minute table-swap."
(Photo by J. R. Eyerman/The LIFE Picture Collection/Getty Images

The surrender ceremony was indeed a carefully composed event, "involving 258 warships.  A massive fly-over had been choreographed to conclude the ceremony, but leaden skies seemed to prohibit it. However, the instant the ceremony ended, the clouds parted as if on divine cue. Under fresh sunlight, 462 B-29s and 450 carrier planes sounded a deafening final benediction.

Mounted on a bulkhead overlooking the veranda deck was a glass case. It contained the American flag Commodore Matthew Perry flew in 1853 when he sailed into Tokyo Bay to initiate formal American relations with Japanâ€"a symbol Admiral Halsey ordered transported by courier from the U.S. Naval Academy Museum. Perry’s ship had been anchored near that spot 92 years earlier; Captain Murray hung the flag where the arriving Japanese delegation was sure to see it."
https://www.historynet.com/altar-of-peace-symbolism-at-japanese-surreder-ceremony.htm

[Gunner65]

https://ibiblio.org/hyperwar/OnlineLibrary/photos/events/wwii-pac/japansur/js-8i.htm

[Gunner65]

Identity of WW2 courier and Perry Flag
http://www.jetwhine.com/2019/07/priority-one-world-war-ii-perry-flag-flight/

This report refutes the claim that the courier slept for 2 days and missed the ceremony. 

https://www.gliddenedigerfuneral.com/obituaries/John-Bremyer/#!/Obituary

He carried Commodore Perry’s flag to the Japanese surrender in Tokyo Bay.John received national recognition for his role in that historic event, made many presentations around the country and recently wrote a book on the Perry Flag that includes his own “Kansas Pioneer Family History

John Bremyer oral history interview:
http://digitalarchive.pacificwarmuseum.org/cdm/ref/collection/p16769coll1/id/5563


Flyboys World War II Perry Flag Flight By Scott Spangler on July 1st, 2019

"Until just before the surrender, the Perry flag was on display at a museum at the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis, Maryland. Someone thought its display at the surrender was significant enough to entrust it to a courier, Lt. John Bremyer. Starting from Annapolis, he took off from Iwo Jima on August 29, 1945, “the last leg of a record-breaking 120-hour, 9,500-mile-long trip that had taken him through 12 time zones.”

"It turns out that there was no dedicated flight, which was slightly disappointing. On the other hand, I learned about a Priority One (or One Priority) World War II military travel voucher, which guaranteed a seat on the next airplane, regardless of type or what passenger got bumped, going in the right direction. When he reported to work that morning, he didn’t expect the assignment."



Bremyer was in the air that evening, headed to San Francisco. From there he took the next plane to Hawaii, then Johnston Island, Kwajalein, Guam, and then Iwo Jima. There “they were going to to put me on a destroyer, but that would take too long, so I got on a Black Cat PBY” that took him to Tokyo Bay, where a whaleboat from the Missouri collected him and Perry’s flag.

"Watching the proceedings from the above the main deck, Bremyer carried the flag, as well as news releases, photographs, and motion picture film of the surrender back to Washington. “I got on a PBM [Martin Mariner seaplane] back to Guam and basically followed the same route back to San Francisco,” the 85-year-old veteran remembered.

Perry’s flag is back on display at the Naval Academy Museum, and it is No. 89 in “A History of the Navy in 100 Objects.” It gives more background on the decision-making process that sent the flag to Japan, and it mentions Lt. Bremyer’s “record-setting” trip. But like Bradley in Flyboys, it doesn’t explain what record Bremyer’s trip set or surpassed". â€"Scott Spangler, Editor.

[sneaksie-taffer]

Are we going to get a history lesson just to prove that DD is a liar? Is Dietrich worth even the effort?

[Gunner65]

Are we going to get a history lesson just to prove that DD is a liar? Is Dietrich worth even the effort?

"A history lesson." would seem appropriate in Dietrich's case, since most of his bogus claims are connected to his own "renegade revisions" of history. I consider it an essential aspect of exposing his lies.  It also serves to demonstrate that fact-checking Douglas Dietrich is not as difficult as he would lead his audience to believe. Yet it is obvious that very few have chosen to do so.

And were I to simply publish statements asserting Dietrich's claims to be false without providing evidence, you would likely be the first in line demanding proof! As for whatever "effort" is required to research Dietrichs' claims, it should be obvious that it is not intended to benefit Dietrich at all. It is intended to provide those in his audience, including the members and guests to this thread, or anyone researching Dietrich, proof that he is a liar and a fraud.  And that seems to me as being a worthwhile effort.

[Gunner65]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKP9a20QzZ4

[Gunner65]

Dietrich sounds tired and depressed, says he is doing the show from a "new bed" given to him from his "anonymous female donor".  But didn't he get a new mattress from the same donor months ago?  Asking for his "gang buddies" to help him get it into his apartment?   

Says his channel is now "age-restricted" by You Tube.  HAHAAHAAA!

[Gunner65]

Dietrich just sang "FIGARO, FIGARO, FIGARO".  That's a fucking keeper! 

[Pelayo]

Dietrich just sang "FIGARO, FIGARO, FIGARO".  That's a fucking keeper! 

If you keep that, make sure you include the part where ddd states that Mozart was German when he in fact was Austrian.

[Gunner65]

If you keep that, make sure you include the part where ddd states that Mozart was German when he in fact was Austrian.

Of course Pelayo!  I always provide context!  Hehe  It has been recorded!