Started by 21st Century Man, October 22, 2016, 12:36:08 AM
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Quote from: albrecht on December 17, 2016, 01:54:07 PMI think the cloudseeding, at least as I know, is over a relatively small area when compared to some of our droughts which are vast. The cost might be prohibitive or the technology isn't advanced enough to cover such a large area?http://www.bloomberg.com/research/stocks/private/snapshot.asp?privcapId=6837140www.wmo.int/pages/prog/arep/cas/documents/CAS-MG3_Doc_4-5_WeaModif.pdfhttp://asicolorado.com/weathermod.htmlWe have so many parts of the country with too much water (like in the upper midwest there is almost always flooding once the ice dams and ice melts in spring. Or here in Texas where we have a drought and then a week of flooding etc.) I think we should be building more retention facilities, canals, or even pipelines to store water or move water from areas with a lot of it to parched regions, instead of simply drilling deeper and depleting aquifers faster than they can be replenished.
Quote from: 21st Century Man on December 17, 2016, 02:01:14 PMit would seem that success in doing so is another thing altogether.
Quote from: 21st Century Man on December 17, 2016, 02:01:14 PMThanks for the links. I have no doubts that we are researching ways to modify the weather but it would seem that success in doing so is another thing altogether. Maybe we can induce a cloud already predisposed towards rain to increase the totals but anything beyond that is highly unlikely. And what's the point in seeding clouds if you can't affect a large area?
Quote from: albrecht on December 17, 2016, 04:04:32 PMhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Popeyehttps://www.theguardian.com/uk/2001/aug/30/sillyseason.physicalscienceshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Cumulushttp://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/1516880.stmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Hatfieldhttp://www.voiceofsandiego.org/topics/news/the-mother-of-all-floods/Burt Lancaster and Katherine Hepburn was in a movie loosely based on Hatfield: The Rainmakerhttp://www.imdb.com/title/tt0049653/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2
Quote from: 21st Century Man on December 17, 2016, 04:57:25 PMbut I'm extremely skeptical.
Quote from: 21st Century Man on December 17, 2016, 04:57:25 PMYeah, I've got the movie in my collection but haven't watched it yet. I guess I assume it's about a con but who knows. American Indians had rain dances and maybe there was something to them. I'm more open to the idea that their have been supernatural causes for rain occasionally. Not dissimilar to stories of the sky raining rocks down on the ground. Who knows? As for Project Cumulus, the wiki entry says there was nothing to it but we know wiki doesn't necessarily tell the truth. I'm open to the idea but I'm extremely skeptical.
Quote from: albrecht on December 17, 2016, 05:13:34 PMFrom what I recall the movie was more of a romance but, yes, a con was involved.Here is the Senate stuff investigating Popeye, Stormfury, and etc:http://www.vietnam.ttu.edu/star/images/239/2390601002C.pdfHere is the former Air Force squadron who did the seeding:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/54th_Weather_Reconnaissance_SquadronRich but small countries like the UAE is cloud seeding to get more rain:http://gulfnews.com/news/uae/environment/uae-looking-at-ways-to-increase-rain-1.1444145http://www.wateronline.com/doc/uae-s-rain-enhancement-program-addresses-key-technical-challenges-0001
Quote from: 21st Century Man on December 17, 2016, 05:24:00 PMmy thoughts [...] we are [...] I can see us
Quote from: Jackstar on December 17, 2016, 05:28:57 PMIt doesn't matter Pretending
Quote from: 21st Century Man on December 17, 2016, 05:36:30 PMYou pick 2 days where the patterns are similar.
Quote from: Yorkshire pud on December 13, 2016, 01:50:16 PMSpy satellites reveal Himalayan melt. www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-38307176
Quote from: 21st Century Man on December 17, 2016, 05:36:30 PMYou pick 2 days states where the patterns are similar. I can do that too. It is funny how you focused on that specific area of the Pacific hemisphere.
Quote from: StarrMountainÂ® Vanguard Member (Since 2010). on December 18, 2016, 02:05:04 PMPacific Rim activity for the last 7 days.
Quote from: StarrMountainÂ® Vanguard Member (Since 2010). on December 18, 2016, 02:22:39 PMLast 7 day. Latest was about 5 minutes ago.
Quote from: 21st Century Man on December 22, 2016, 02:16:20 AMVideo of snow falling in the Sahara.
Quote from: Yorkshire pud on December 22, 2016, 09:46:29 AMI'll see you. http://www.euronews.com/2015/09/10/italy-s-glaciers-melting-at-alarming-pacehttp://www.euronews.com/2015/09/10/italy-s-glaciers-melting-at-alarming-pace
Quote from: 21st Century Man on December 22, 2016, 10:23:00 PMYes we have some influence on the climate but it is very, very small fraction of 1 degree Celsius.
Quote from: Jackstar on December 23, 2016, 03:56:47 AMThat's really just your opinion--which at this point is really no longer credible.
Quote from: 21st Century Man on December 23, 2016, 02:30:50 PMI'll leave it to others to decide whether it is credible or not.
Quote from: 21st Century Man on December 20, 2016, 10:00:48 PMAs to what happens to the radiation of the water molecule when it evaporates, I'm not sure.