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Quote from: Freyja on December 28, 2015, 05:51:27 PM
Really??? Are you able to comprehend the written word?!?!

Art Bell
18 hrs ·

I don't want to give anybody false hope that I am coming back because I have had enough come backs and this one was screwed up by my own words which were said at a time when frankly I was scared, stressed out and had not slept for some time, so it's on me all the way.

However I do feel that those who want to see MITD continue need to support the show which is just $4.99 a Month. Heather is doing a great job and improving every day. She is dedicated to exploring the Paranormal and having a alternative on the air is golden in my view.

Art

Yes--he's not saying his coming back and he's not saying he isn't.  Saying to support Heather is besides the point.

Quote from: Inglorious Bitch on December 28, 2015, 05:54:23 PM
Re-read your post that I quoted. It really doesn't make sense the first read around.

It makes sense.  If you don't get it...fine.   


BUT did mean "There they go again"--mistyped it.  And typed KNOWN when I meant NONE--so you have a point.  Have to check my post better!

Quote from: DarKPenguiN on December 28, 2015, 05:46:35 PM
I think the pattern screams sociopath.

Maybe he's just fucked up, like me and the rest of the planet's inhabitants.

Quote from: phrodo on December 28, 2015, 05:48:53 PM
You really are pathetic .. D&D?? Seriously?? You're the loser. Are you still living in your mom's basement?

You're so happy that all you do is bitch, moan and complain about Art endlessly. Yep .. you're a regular bundle of fucking joy ain't ya??

And who knows what part of the property Art took the picture with his daughter. Surely he didn't walk her all the way over to the guest house/studio gate where he got shot at. More likely they just stepped outside for a moment to snap a quick pic .. but that wouldn't fit into your projected theory now would it? FFS  :

lol- Actually I think you read up a bit on the studies that have been done concerning D&D players and intellect.... The old "loser in the basement" myth is generally just that. Many were socially awkward (not me!) but none of my old group ended up being losers. Many went into computer science and a couple are game developers- I didnt fare quite so well but I did alright for myself.

You are one dumb fuck. I mean stupid doesnt even begin to describe your thoughts and opinions. Every time I read your ramblings I can only think of the sound of the Charlie brown Adults going "bwaaa bwaaa bwaaa"

Like this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss2hULhXf04

In fact, I'm not even sure how you're typing with Arts cock situated so deeply down your throat. Your gagreflexes are quite impressive though. perhaps a career in interracial gay porn may be your calling? Just trying to help.

Quote from: zmbabwe on December 28, 2015, 05:51:16 PM
What?  I thought his wife died.

Art is on wife #4.

From his wiki page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_Bell

Sachiko Toguchi Bell Pontius (dates uncertain; divorced)
Sakamoto Kyo Bell (dates uncertain; divorced)
Ramona Bell (August 1991 â€" January 5, 2006 †)
Airyn Ruiz Bell (April 11, 2006 â€" present)[2]

Art is a Rock Star   a rock star of radio of sort   ...and rock stars act like this     quit the band     rejoin the band    --go on tour   quit the tour   re join the tour  quit the band again   reform the band       and last tour for band ever   but wait couple years   and again last tour ever for the band  again  -----a rock star who doesn't do drugs   but  a rock star that shoots himself in the foot   ect ect ect   

Quote from: phrodo on December 28, 2015, 05:48:53 PM
You really are pathetic .. D&D?? Seriously?? You're the loser. Are you still living in your mom's basement?

You're so happy that all you do is bitch, moan and complain about Art endlessly. Yep .. you're a regular bundle of fucking joy ain't ya??

And who knows what part of the property Art took the picture with his daughter. Surely he didn't walk her all the way over to the guest house/studio gate where he got shot at. More likely they just stepped outside for a moment to snap a quick pic .. but that wouldn't fit into your projected theory now would it? FFS  :

Shhh he's just trying to save us all our five bucks.

Sir, your concern for my billfold is noble and selfless, and God knows I pay little attention to it myself.  I once shamelessly overtipped a waitress and my dining companion literally grabbed the perceived overage out of her hand.  I am finding it difficult not to feel similar unpleasant emotions.

Quote from: Ciardelo on December 28, 2015, 05:55:22 PM
Is it so hard just to pay Art his $4.99? Come on, that's less than you people pay for your Starbucks coffee you all swill down.

$ 5.83, Venti Marble Macchiato, extra shot. mmmmmmm!

Quote from: malachi.martini on December 28, 2015, 12:36:28 PM
I used to struggle with the idea, but there's been too many episodes and cues to suggest he's a legit sociopath.

Yeah, sadly I agree. Too much of a repetitive pattern that at this point IMO would be worth considering....as nothing makes sense other that what you write....very, very sad.

The above takes nothing away from Art being one of the best broadcasters of all time. It is very sad that it seems whatever his demons are/have been make him self destruct, over and over and over.....

Quote from: Ciardelo on December 28, 2015, 05:55:22 PM
Is it so hard just to pay Art his $4.99? Come on, that's less than you people pay for your Starbucks coffee you all swill down.

yup...since i dont go go starbucks that often...and usually only in the summer for the fraps..and well i still do not have a job and really..if i dont hear it live ..meh..not gonna listen to it usually lol

Quote from: K_Dubb on December 28, 2015, 06:00:14 PM
Shhh he's just trying to save us all our five bucks.

Sir, your concern for my billfold is noble and selfless, and God knows I pay little attention to it myself.  I once shamelessly overtipped a waitress and my dining companion literally grabbed the perceived overage out of her hand.  I am finding it difficult not to feel similar unpleasant emotions.

No. I dont really care about your 5 bucks.

Some sheep deserve to be fleeced (no offence)

I have no altruistic motive here. No real motive at all. Just discussing Art bell quitting yet again under circumstanses that YET AGAIN are not his fault. Spend away.

Quote from: pyewacket on December 28, 2015, 05:46:08 PM
I was active during that time frame and had not experienced Art's previous dramatic exits from radio, so it was my first time. Does that make me an 'Art quits virgin'? Anyway, there was a real feeling of contributing ideas and an insider feel to all the ups and downs of Art's struggle to return- against all odds and opposition (real or imagined). We were crushed when Art and Keith split, putting an end to hopes of Art's return and then cheered when they were reunited. The music and deals were an on again/ off again struggle in negotiations and we worried and waited for each update from Art as he masterfully raised and dashed our hopes for weeks.

Then the show was on! Hints of bigger things to come and Friday 'stayed tuned for the latest news' posts from Art kept many guessing- is it good news or bad? Finally the drama became part of the show and you only need read the pages of this thread to see where it all went downhill. 

It was a ride that came to a spectacular crash leaving a tangle of emotional debris in the Art Bell Thread. When the smoke started to settle, Art posted again to add to his story, promote Heather, and post pictures.

This has been an interesting experience and I don't mean to be insensitive to any here who are upset about it all, but it's what happens when fans get too close a look at their hero. It's painful to find out that a person or belief doesn't live up to the high esteem in which they're held.

I had enjoyed Art's show when he was on coast, I was much younger and more curious about his subject matter. I wasn't as interested this time around and grew tired of the drama. No hard feelings necessary, but don't blame me for watching and commenting as the saga continues- after all, we've been invited in. 

I agree with everything you typed.  I WAS around for the previous exits. I was STILL caught by surprise this time around.  At first, I thought it was Art's network, and therefore Art could do whatever he wanted.  I really didn't grasp the concept of the DMDN as a "paranormal" network, because I didn't come here based on any interest in the "paranormal".  I came here to hear the Art that I remembered, unburdened by the rules and regulations of anyone else.  I wasn't thrilled with this incarnation of the Art Bell Show.  The Art Bell I remember could have any topic or guest he felt like having.  This time, Art seemed to me to be in a "paranormal closet"  of the sort that I am not at all interested in, with very few exceptions.  The only shows I really enjoyed, with the exception of a few, were the Open Lines shows.  This time around, I listened mostly for the company of my fellow bellgabbers.

Quote from: GravitySucks on December 28, 2015, 05:52:46 PM
You are always welcome pyewacket.

I blame Jazmunda (The Destroyer). Things were going great until he started that BellPhiles podcast. 😎

Thank you, GS. Poor Jaz- he tries so hard. 

Quote from: DarKPenguiN on December 28, 2015, 06:02:46 PM
Some sheep deserve to be fleeced (no offence)

I prefer to see it as an optimist tax, gladly paid.

Quote from: pyewacket on December 28, 2015, 05:46:08 PM
I was active during that time frame and had not experienced Art's previous dramatic exits from radio, so it was my first time. Does that make me an 'Art quits virgin'? Anyway, there was a real feeling of contributing ideas and an insider feel to all the ups and downs of Art's struggle to return- against all odds and opposition (real or imagined). We were crushed when Art and Keith split, putting an end to hopes of Art's return and then cheered when they were reunited. The music and deals were an on again/ off again struggle in negotiations and we worried and waited for each update from Art as he masterfully raised and dashed our hopes for weeks.

Then the show was on! Hints of bigger things to come and Friday 'stayed tuned for the latest news' posts from Art kept many guessing- is it good news or bad? Finally the drama became part of the show and you only need read the pages of this thread to see where it all went downhill. 

It was a ride that came to a spectacular crash leaving a tangle of emotional debris in the Art Bell Thread. When the smoke started to settle, Art posted again to add to his story, promote Heather, and post pictures.

This has been an interesting experience and I don't mean to be insensitive to any here who are upset about it all, but it's what happens when fans get too close a look at their hero. It's painful to find out that a person or belief doesn't live up to the high esteem in which they're held.

I had enjoyed Art's show when he was on coast, I was much younger and more curious about his subject matter. I wasn't as interested this time around and grew tired of the drama. No hard feelings necessary, but don't blame me for watching and commenting as the saga continues- after all, we've been invited in. 

I must say this has been very enlightening.
I didn't appreciate you people that have been here working for Art's return before this latest debacle.
I am just an older fan of his first shows and know nothing of the "Syrius" days.
I was quite happy when I heard he would be returning to the air.
I have learned much about his penchant for bailing out that I was previously unaware of.
I still would love to hear he is coming back in some form but I have a greater understanding and sympathy of the feelings expressed here by some.
[foul and indecent language excepted].
So, while I hope to hear another Art Bell show besides the "Somewhere In Time" ones, my hopes have been abated to say the least.
Maybe sometimes ignorance is bliss.
Just a fan

Quote from: brig on December 28, 2015, 06:03:18 PM
The Art Bell I remember could have any topic or guest he felt like having.

Noted. Bell has demonstrably different feels now.

Quote from: DarKPenguiN on December 28, 2015, 05:57:18 PM

<lame gay snivel snip>

So you find a youtube clip and attempt to sling back lame gay insults. Typically juvenile. And predictable. 

Quote from: brig on December 28, 2015, 06:03:18 PM
I agree with everything you typed.  I WAS around for the previous exits. I was STILL caught by surprise this time around.  At first, I thought it was Art's network, and therefore Art could do whatever he wanted.  I really didn't grasp the concept of the DMDN as a "paranormal" network, because I didn't come here based on any interest in the "paranormal".  I came here to hear the Art that I remembered, unburdened by the rules and regulations of anyone else.  I wasn't thrilled with this incarnation of the Art Bell Show.  The Art Bell I remember could have any topic or guest he felt like having.  This time, Art seemed to me to be in a "paranormal closet"  of the sort that I am not at all interested in, with very few exceptions.  The only shows I really enjoyed, with the exception of a few, were the Open Lines shows.  This time around, I listened mostly for the company of my fellow bellgabbers.

Hi Brig- I wasn't the only one disappointed then. I do enjoy some paranormal topics, but from a more sceptical POV. I enjoy hearing about legends and folklore but not the same old- yeah, we saw Bigfoot, but I didn't have a camera- blah, blah, blah. Same old excuses won't hold up with today's readily available technology. I especially disliked the 'time traveller' nonsense. I'm with you - I find our fellow bellgabbers more entertaining. I really need to get out more... 

Quote from: pyewacket on December 28, 2015, 06:16:19 PM
Hi Brig- I wasn't the only one disappointed then. I do enjoy some paranormal topics, but from a more sceptical POV. I enjoy hearing about legends and folklore but not the same old- yeah, we saw Bigfoot, but I didn't have a camera- blah, blah, blah. Same old excuses won't hold up with today's readily available technology. I especially disliked the 'time traveller' nonsense. I'm with you - I find our fellow bellgabbers more entertaining. I really need to get out more... 

I enjoy legends and folklore also. 

Been listening to the SIT shows...still entertaining! There was a magic to them!

Quote from: K_Dubb on December 28, 2015, 06:07:59 PM
I prefer to see it as an optimist tax, gladly paid.

Nothing wrong with being an optimist.At some point you have to recognize patters though and be able to see the bigger picture. Once the same thing continues to repeat itself in a vicious and neverending cycle (i.e. quit again not my fault) you have to reassess your optimism for realism.

The optimist sees the glass as half full, the pessimist as half empty...The realists drinks the beer.

Fool me once shame on you. fool me twice, shame on me. fool me 20 times?

Anyhow it takes all kinds to make the World what it is but imho at some point optimism where it isnt merited becomes gullibility and is often used by the sociopathic personality to their advantage and support.

Feel  free to be optimistic and see things in the best light. I was optimistic and a "defender" until the Sirius debacle so ive seen both sides of the coin here.

Quote from: phrodo on December 28, 2015, 06:09:18 PM
So you find a youtube clip and attempt to sling back lame gay insults. Typically juvenile. And predictable.

Trying to keep it at a level you would be able to grasp and simple enough to read with that cock shoved down your throat. =)

Quote from: brig on December 28, 2015, 06:19:05 PM
I enjoy legends and folklore also. 

I want to hear about elves and fairies and leprechauns.

Quote from: DarKPenguiN on December 28, 2015, 06:23:16 PM
Trying to keep it at a level you would be able to grasp and simple enough to read with that cock shoved down your throat. =)

Come on dude... Ladies in the room.

Quote from: DarKPenguiN on December 28, 2015, 06:22:36 PM
Nothing wrong with being an optimist.At some point you have to recognize patters though and be able to see the bigger picture. Once the same thing continues to repeat itself in a vicious and neverending cycle (i.e. quit again not my fault) you have to reassess your optimism for realism.

The optimist sees the glass as half full, the pessimist as half empty...The realists drinks the beer.

Fool me once shame on you. fool me twice, shame on me. fool me 20 times?

Anyhow it takes all kinds to make the World what it is but imho at some point optimism where it isnt merited becomes gullibility and is often used by the sociopathic personality to their advantage and support.

Feel  free to be optimistic and see things in the best light. I was optimistic and a "defender" until the Sirius debacle so ive seen both sides of the coin here.

I'll forgive your patronizing tone as you're clearly only trying to help.  See how great it is?

Quote from: paladin1991 on December 28, 2015, 12:41:50 PM
It was a damn good radio show.

The best bar none....that for me is what makes this whatever it is beyond sad.

Quote from: Chronaut on December 28, 2015, 03:42:54 PM
If, for the sake of argument, we take the stance that he’s never been found guilty of the really horrific criminal allegations made against him and therefore that he’s innocent of them, we still have to reckon with his formidable professional knowledge of mass psychological manipulation and the chilling prospect of their abuse by government intelligence agencies.  And this stuff is as fascinating as it is scary.  The interview begins delving into that subject at the 1-hour mark.

Apparently 5% of our thought process is conscious, and 95% is unconscious, which is why facts and logical debate are virtually useless in persuading a change of perception, as evidenced in this thread.  But he says that the other 95% can be readily manipulated technologically, through techniques like electromagnetic brain wave resonance.  He describes how the various bands of brainwave activity; alpha, beta, delta, etc will respond to a carrier wave tuned to those frequencies.  So you could make people feel agitated/aggressive/restless, or relaxed and content, or simply sleepy, with the right transmission.  I wonder if amateur radio operators ever check those low-frequency ranges: it would be interesting if they picked up an artificial signal there.

Has anyone read his book MindWar?  Apparently it goes into greater detail about the various methods of mind manipulation researched and employed by the military, and reviewers seem to think that the knowledge in his book could be dangerous as hell in the wrong hands.  The focus seems to be on manipulating the psychological and physical environment to produce the large-scale changes that the practitioners want to see.

It seems incontrovertible at this point that Americans have grown increasingly violent, stupid, and infantile, in a general.  I’ve been wondering if it’s caused by the pervasive toxins/hormones/etc in our air, water, and food, or if it’s more of a cultural thing tied to the long-term erosion of educational funding and quality, or if it’s the natural consequence of increasing poverty rates and economic inequality, or if it’s nothing more than a technological effort to keep the population divided, suggestible and hostile, so we’re always eager to fund costly military actions that line the pockets of our massive defense corporations.  Probably some combination of the above.

For me this is part of an effort to understand the microcosm here, where Art’s victimization by an armed criminal is being exacerbated 24/7 by people who seem to have no interest in the situation other than lowering the caliber of discussion, and also to understand the national scale where Americans have become the laughing stalk of the developed world for our ignorance, aggression, and superficiality.  In less than 50 years, we’ve slumped from a beacon of global inspiration to a cautionary tale â€" how did that happen?

Btw, does anyone know if HAARP broadcasts in the ELF band where brainwaves resonate?

By some strange coincidence, every one of the points mentioned here are aligned with the ongoing Democrat platform and the progressive stance on what's wrong with America. Have you considered any unaligned explanations for what ails us? Maybe you just need to do some additional reading which doesn't necessarily jibe with your previous reading. It could be jarring but being jarred can be a good thing. Please go jar yourself.

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on December 28, 2015, 02:03:10 PM
<sigh> No-one hates him; plenty pity him, many others are pissed with him, and some simply disappointed...but hate? Can anyone muster that amount of emotional negative energy? All consuming? If they can, they need to be in the same waiting room with AB.

+1

Quote from: Value Of Pi on December 28, 2015, 06:26:45 PM
By some strange coincidence, every one of the points mentioned here are aligned with the ongoing Democrat platform and the progressive stance on what's wrong with America. Have you considered any unaligned explanations for what ails us? Maybe you just need to do some additional reading which doesn't necessarily jibe with your previous reading. It could be jarring but being jarred can be a good thing. Please go jar yourself.

Geeez. Tough crowd.

Quote from: K_Dubb on December 28, 2015, 06:24:57 PM
I'll forgive your patronizing tone as you're clearly only trying to help.  See how great it is?

I'm not trying to be patronizing either- I'm  also not trying to help.

If I am patronizing in what I said its towards the true believers who've been here since the beginning and are showing signs of beaten wife syndrome.The ones who have defended Art time and again as he pulls the same shit and then fail to ever learn.

I'm not sure you're one of those people.

-Anyhow, I dont care what anyone thinks and I dont care if I change anyones mind. I want to discuss, debate, dissect and kill some time doing in with a topic I find interesting. Thats really it.