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Quote from: Agent : Orange on June 16, 2011, 02:11:05 PMActually think I remember hearing this one back in the day.

I think that demons are drunk. Look at their red eyes.

I missed that one. However, he said several times that some drunks look like demonic shape-shifters. He said that many drunk and high people likely are possessed.

Noory Voice: "It gives a whole new meaning to demon rum."

Quote from: the_wanderer on June 12, 2011, 10:29:35 PM

Hmmm  has
1. someone hacked into her account?
2. slipped her the 'green' pill?
3. overdosed on Peyote?

Huh, sounds a lot like my typical day.

Yo, I don't hate, I just state..don't sit behind no mic and masturbate..

Quote from: General Johnson Jameson on June 29, 2011, 01:02:18 AM
Yo, I don't hate, I just state..don't sit behind no mic and masturbate..

Are you calling Noory a jerk-off? I thought that Onan would be the one to do that (sorry for the reach).

Quote from: Jethro Capone on June 29, 2011, 01:54:00 AM
Are you calling Noory a jerk-off? I thought that Onan would be the one to do that (sorry for the reach).

i tried that joke when Onan first joined - got straightended out real fast - you;'ll have to ask hi the association though, i don't' recall.   i only recall feeling like i had a very dirty mind  :

Quote from: EvB on June 30, 2011, 07:12:56 PM
i tried that joke when Onan first joined - got straightended out real fast - you;'ll have to ask hi the association though, i don't' recall.   i only recall feeling like i had a very dirty mind  :

It was a Biblical reference. As Punnett might tell us, Onan's main sin wasn't masturbation, but my reply fit the theme of the other post. It was a sad mix of a religious joke and a sexual snark. Let's pretend that it never happened. ;-)

Quote from: EvB on June 30, 2011, 07:12:56 PM
i tried that joke when Onan first joined - got straightended out real fast - you;'ll have to ask hi the association though, i don't' recall.   i only recall feeling like i had a very dirty mind  :

EvB I am so sorry I meant no terseness ( just like harmness).
I am so sorry. I had no idea you took it that way. Imma dink.

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Actually in my case it was a shortening of onanonanon. From a standup comic. But I don't mind being known as a jerkoff disagreeing with god.

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There was an object in the old computer game Diablo, called "the rod of Onan"

Interesting info from the wiki for that item:
http://diablo.wikia.com/wiki/Rod_of_Onan

Rod of Onan
War Staff
A rather salacious name, if you read the Biblical legend of Onan.

"According to the text, after God had killed Onan's older brother Er, Judah asked Onan to have sex with Tamar, Er's widow, so that the offspring could be declared Er's heir. The narrative implies that Onan didn't object to the sex itself, but performed coitus interruptus, spilling his seed upon the ground, so that there wouldn't be any offspring he couldn't claim as his own; the passage goes on to state that for this act, a displeased God killed him."

In light of that, the fact that this staff has Golem charges, a spell that causes a humanoid to emerge from the ground, takes on a whole new meaning.

Quote from: onan on June 30, 2011, 11:36:18 PM
Actually in my case it was a shortening of onanonanon. From a standup comic. But I don't mind being known as a jerkoff disagreeing with god.

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You should be safe if you don't refuse to have sex with your brother's widow by pulling out and spilling your seed on your bed. That was the sin of the other Onan.

Quote from: General Johnson Jameson on June 29, 2011, 01:02:18 AM
Yo, I don't hate, I just state..don't sit behind no mic and masturbate..

your phone is gonna ring soon, but you just can't wait for that call
Captain Jack will get you high tonight
And take you to your special island
Captain Jack will get you by tonight
Just a little push, and you'll be smilin'

Quote from: morphiaflow on July 01, 2011, 01:26:09 AM
your phone is gonna ring soon, but you just can't wait for that call
Captain Jack will get you high tonight
And take you to your special island
Captain Jack will get you by tonight
Just a little push, and you'll be smilin'

Ah, touche!

Last night I wrote a post copying my email to Premiere about labeling critics haters.  You can read it on the GNS thread.

Ana

Quote from: Jethro Capone on June 30, 2011, 10:50:36 PM
It was a Biblical reference. As Punnett might tell us, Onan's main sin wasn't masturbation, but my reply fit the theme of the other post. It was a sad mix of a religious joke and a sexual snark. Let's pretend that it never happened. ;-)

Yes Jethro, i got what you meant.  My point (and sorry for being obscure here - you didn't see the original post I'm making reference to and can't find it) is that our Onan's name turned out to have nothing to do with the biblical Onan at all.

Anyway, you now have me on a roll (forgive me?) since I am a bit of an amateur bible freak. You are right, and Ian, or course, would be right, that Onan's sin was not masturbation (though it's a common joke that it was) it was failing to give his brother an heir. (more specifically, it was disobedience to the religious law of the time, and his father's (Judah's) express command that he provide an heir for his diseased brother)  The custom at the time was, if a man died without issue - his brother was supposed to impregnate his wife, and any offspring would be considered his brother's child. Onan didn't want any little Onan's running about who were not his heirs, but rather his brother's. So, while he did, repeatedly, have sex with his sister-in-law (Tamar) as custom demanded, the story goes that each time he "pulled out" to avoid conception. ergo: "spilling his seed upon the ground."

ref: Genisis 38:7-10

Of course, this story takes place in the context of a culture where life was very short, and people relatively few.  Populating the earth and continuing your family line was pretty much "job one" for the average Joe. in a world were life is relatively long, and we have too damned many people anyway, it's hard to relate to.

Dear Reader, are you asleep yet? 


PS:  Jethro, asking me to pretend that a post that is  bible or theology related
"never happend" is like asking a hungry dog to pretend the meet scraps aren't there. 

Quote from: anagrammy on July 02, 2011, 12:08:08 PM
Last night I wrote a post copying my email to Premiere about labeling critics haters.  You can read it on the GNS thread.

Ana

I did, and it's brilliant - THANKS!

Quote from: EvB on July 02, 2011, 12:39:13 PM

Anyway, you now have me on a roll (forgive me?) since I am a bit of an amateur bible freak.

That was well done EvB!  I love that type of cultural harvesting of biblical stuff.  I am an enthusiastic amateur biblical scavenger hunt player myself, always finding good things to ponder in the hippie brain.  Mostly, I feel that one should leave this stuff to the amateurs as the pros are always always on the take.

Quote from: aldousburbank on July 02, 2011, 01:29:15 PM
That was well done EvB!  I love that type of cultural harvesting of biblical stuff.  I am an enthusiastic amateur biblical scavenger hunt player myself, always finding good things to ponder in the hippie brain.  Mostly, I feel that one should leave this stuff to the amateurs as the pros are always always on the take.

GREAT! It is fun, isn't it?

Quote from: anagrammy on July 02, 2011, 12:08:08 PM
Last night I wrote a post copying my email to Premiere about labeling critics haters.  You can read it on the GNS thread.

Ana

You wrote great emails to Premiere and Lisa.  I know I felt better when I wrote to Lisa about Noory lying about C2C's ratings being #2.  It may not change things, but maybe if they get enough intelligent complaints, action will be taken.  If nothing else, I think management is made aware that they are putting out an inferior product; no way for them not to confront this fact by now.   

Thanks Tara and Ev,  I am hoping that as people pull away from Streamlink and give their reasons in rational, complete explanations with examples, they MIGHT listen up.  I went from an every night-never fail listener to once or twice a week with a ho-hum attitude.  And pretty much everybody here, lurkers and posters, agrees. 

Making our case while voting with feet is the best way, the only way, consumers have ever gotten what they want.

Anagrammy

Quote from: anagrammy on July 02, 2011, 05:32:57 PM
Thanks Tara and Ev,  I am hoping that as people pull away from Streamlink and give their reasons in rational, complete explanations with examples, they MIGHT listen up.  I went from an every night-never fail listener to once or twice a week with a ho-hum attitude.  And pretty much everybody here, lurkers and posters, agrees. 

Making our case while voting with feet is the best way, the only way, consumers have ever gotten what they want.

Anagrammy

Its very obvious Clear Channel is shifting the show in a new direction. If they were worried about what the old style Coast to Coast am fans were  going to say, they would not  be doing it. How far can you really take a show like coast to coast anyways? How many different bullshit artists can they dig up that knows the truth on ghosts, UFOS, etc etc? Art stumbled upon a great idea way back when when he decided to get out of the politics arena and head for unknown territory, and unfortunately its ran its course. The guests damned the show. People such as Ed Dames and Richard Hoagland and their long lists of things that were gonna happen that never happened started getting stale. And how many BSers like Sylvia Browne can you really bear to hear these days? Alex Jones? Seriously?
Radio has changed greatly since the AB days, its not about the content, its about the ads now. Clear Channel obviously thinks they can sell more ads with a broader audience than a niche audience like Art Bell had. Download some MP3s and relive the glory days, shows over folks...........
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Quote from: livingdead70 on July 10, 2011, 03:02:27 AM
Its very obvious Clear Channel is shifting the show in a new direction. If they were worried about what the old style Coast to Coast am fans were  going to say, they would not  be doing it. How far can you really take a show like coast to coast anyways? How many different bullshit artists can they dig up that knows the truth on ghosts, UFOS, etc etc? Art stumbled upon a great idea way back when when he decided to get out of the politics arena and head for unknown territory, and unfortunately its ran its course. The guests damned the show. People such as Ed Dames and Richard Hoagland and their long lists of things that were gonna happen that never happened started getting stale. And how many BSers like Sylvia Browne can you really bear to hear these days? Alex Jones? Seriously?
Radio has changed greatly since the AB days, its not about the content, its about the ads now. Clear Channel obviously thinks they can sell more ads with a broader audience than a niche audience like Art Bell had. Download some MP3s and relive the glory days, shows over folks...........
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Ace Frehley is awesome.  I won't go to a Kiss show with fake Ace

Quote from: livingdead70 on July 10, 2011, 03:02:27 AM
Its very obvious Clear Channel is shifting the show in a new direction. If they were worried about what the old style Coast to Coast am fans were  going to say, they would not  be doing it. How far can you really take a show like coast to coast anyways? How many different bullshit artists can they dig up that knows the truth on ghosts, UFOS, etc etc? Art stumbled upon a great idea way back when when he decided to get out of the politics arena and head for unknown territory, and unfortunately its ran its course. The guests damned the show. People such as Ed Dames and Richard Hoagland and their long lists of things that were gonna happen that never happened started getting stale. And how many BSers like Sylvia Browne can you really bear to hear these days? Alex Jones? Seriously?
Radio has changed greatly since the AB days, its not about the content, its about the ads now. Clear Channel obviously thinks they can sell more ads with a broader audience than a niche audience like Art Bell had. Download some MP3s and relive the glory days, shows over folks...........
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There are plenty of new, interesting paranormal and weird news type subjects and people to interview.  The world is full of Ripley-Believe-It-Or-Not people, ideas and events.  What Coast is lacking is imagination and talent.  Take a subject and frame it properly-- I could suggest a new guest every week just from my reading list!  And I think other posters here could do the same thing-- in fact, I challenge you all to do just that.  I'll start:

TOPIC:  The Future Without Women - How Will Abortion for Gender Selection Change Society
GUEST:  Mara Hvistendahl, author of "Unnatural Selection"

Here's another one

TOPIC:  Science Fiction stories which predicted the future/science fiction publishing today
GUEST:  A science fiction publishing house or editor

Your turn, haters, what would you like to see discussed and, please, no turmeric...

Anagrammy

Sean Carroll is a theoretical physicist at Caltech where he focuses on theories of cosmology, field theory and gravitation by studying the evolution of the universe.  http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2010/02/what-is-time/

I don't know if this guy has been on C2C but I sent his info to Art a couple years ago.

AnnaGrammy,
First one does not interest me much, thats not saying it wont interest others.
Second one, been done a million times. Art and George have both had similar shows, one comes to
mind, back in the AB days they had a guy ( may have been one of the authors of some of the Star Trek
books) about how the technology in star trek is now coming a reality.

Arts, and Coast to Coasts in general, best shows were the open lines shows, and the talks with people
such as Mad Man Markham, Bugs and the bigfoot ( i know its BS, but still, it was great entertainment),
Mels Hole etc. And thats what people forget, and seem to not realize, Art thought of a good deal of
this stuff as nothing more than entertainment. Once it turns into a money making scheme, and not
just a form of good entertainment, thats when it got lost.
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Quote from: livingdead70 on July 10, 2011, 03:34:04 PMArts, and Coast to Coasts in general, best shows were the open lines shows, and the talks with people
such as Mad Man Markham, Bugs and the bigfoot ( i know its BS, but still, it was great entertainment),
Mels Hole etc. t

Very true. But those days are long gone unfortunately, since those stories were only possible with true UNSCREENED open lines. Even some later regular guests were discovered first just as a caller during open lines back in the 90s like Stan Deyo. He never wrote books which is how they seem to get guests nowadays.

Not possible with the multi-level super-screened lines that Noory has now. Plus the host will cutoff a good story caller if he ever managed to get thru. Even a modern day Mel, MadMan or Bugs wouldn't get more than a few minutes to tell his story and only a comment like "fascinating" or "unbelieveable" and move on never to hear of them again. 

Quote from: Morgus on July 10, 2011, 03:40:33 PM
Very true. But those days are long gone unfortunately, since those stories were only possible with true UNSCREENED open lines. Even some later regular guests were discovered first just as a caller during open lines back in the 90s like Stan Deyo. He never wrote books which is how they seem to get guests nowadays.

Not possible with the multi-level super-screened lines that Noory has now. Plus the host will cutoff a good story caller if he ever managed to get thru. Even a modern day Mel, MadMan or Bugs wouldn't get more than a few minutes to tell his story and only a comment like "fascinating" or "unbelieveable" and move on never to hear of them again. 

Your never going to see a caller get more than 5 minutes or so of air time with a company
like Clear Channel at the helm. Cool stuff like that died with independent radio. I miss the days
of rock radio DJs being able to play random songs or album cuts, something very rare in this day and
age. Its not Noory doing these things, its the powers that be at Clear Channel.
t

Quote from: livingdead70 on July 10, 2011, 03:34:04 PM
AnnaGrammy,
First one does not interest me much, thats not saying it wont interest others.
Second one, been done a million times. Art and George have both had similar shows, one comes to
mind, back in the AB days they had a guy ( may have been one of the authors of some of the Star Trek
books) about how the technology in star trek is now coming a reality.

Arts, and Coast to Coasts in general, best shows were the open lines shows, and the talks with people
such as Mad Man Markham, Bugs and the bigfoot ( i know its BS, but still, it was great entertainment),
Mels Hole etc. And thats what people forget, and seem to not realize, Art thought of a good deal of
this stuff as nothing more than entertainment. Once it turns into a money making scheme, and not
just a form of good entertainment, thats when it got lost.
t

Now that you mention it, livingdead, Art created Mel's Hole, Art's Parts, etc.  He created the whole "fascination with the Vatican"-- he created the entertainment and guests and callers were the raw material for his talent.  Now we have a sort of two-dimensional version.  Like the circus only there are no costumes, no searchlights, no barkers, no acrobats or dancers, no magicians and no sideshow.  Just a train with some seedy guys leading around a bunch of animals in a field.   Not a circus without the props and aura. 

George Noory is the killer of "aura of mystery."  George Knapp doesn't really do that either--he's a good reporter and a good interviewer, but he doesn't have the twinkle in the eye.

Anagrammy

Quote from: anagrammy on July 10, 2011, 11:15:45 PM
George Noory is the killer of "aura of mystery."  George Knapp doesn't really do that either--he's a good reporter and a good interviewer, but he doesn't have the twinkle in the eye.

Anagrammy

I agree that Bell is one of a kind, and he can't and won't be replaced. However, Knapp radiates his own kind of mystery on Coast. The fact that he walked the walk, before he talked the talk, brings real food to the speculative table (hee). He conjures his own kind of aural magic. 

Quote from: anagrammy on July 10, 2011, 11:15:45 PM
Now that you mention it, livingdead, Art created Mel's Hole, Art's Parts, etc.  He created the whole "fascination with the Vatican"-- he created the entertainment and guests and callers were the raw material for his talent.  Now we have a sort of two-dimensional version.  Like the circus only there are no costumes, no searchlights, no barkers, no acrobats or dancers, no magicians and no sideshow.  Just a train with some seedy guys leading around a bunch of animals in a field.   Not a circus without the props and aura. 

George Noory is the killer of "aura of mystery."  George Knapp doesn't really do that either--he's a good reporter and a good interviewer, but he doesn't have the twinkle in the eye.

Anagrammy

Agreed, but Noory was not hired to be "art bell". He was hired to be the host of a radio show.
George is there because they pay him to be. Art was there because he created it.
Knapp comes from television.. a whole other ball game. Which is likely why he
landed the job with Clear Channel, he is used to a structured environment.
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