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Glenn Beck

Started by Pirate King Atomsk, April 14, 2009, 05:18:15 PM

Marc.Knight

I usually consider myself more of a conservative on most subjects, but I have to say that I am getting tired of the boring and repetitious conservative talk shows.  They "own" the airwaves but one has to question how effective have they been to get the conservative philosophy across to the undecided, or are they just catering to the conservative core. 

Even with the constant barrage of conservative diatribe against liberalism from Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, Savage, and the daily conservative commentators on Fox, we still ended up with Obama for two terms. 

We still have recent polls showing that the majority of Americans would eagerly vote for the "Old Hag with the Secret Server" over any Republican.  Are the conservative talk show hosts hurting the cause more than helping?  Are they polarizing instead of evangelizing?  I don't know.

Gd5150

Quote from: Marc.Knight on March 26, 2015, 01:48:27 PM
I usually consider myself more of a conservative on most subjects, but I have to say that I am getting tired of the boring and repetitious conservative talk shows.  They "own" the airwaves but one has to question how effective have they been to get the conservative philosophy across to the undecided, or are they just catering to the conservative core. 

Even with the constant barrage of conservative diatribe against liberalism from Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, Savage, and the daily conservative commentators on Fox, we still ended up with Obama for two terms. 

We still have recent polls showing that the majority of Americans would eagerly vote for the "Old Hag with the Secret Server" over any Republican.  Are the conservative talk show hosts hurting the cause more than helping?  Are they polarizing instead of evangelizing?  I don't know.

No question the popularity of AM political talk radio has gone down. Like everything else, its affected by the massive onslaught of digital media via smartphones and digital content available 24/7, Pandora, 10,000 song libraries on our phones, the gabcast and a zillion other podcasts etc... Just like newspapers and network news and their collapse.

Plus most AM radio political shows sound the same. Limbaugh remains fairly unique because of his sarcasm and sense of humor. Plus he talks about more than just politics and has tries to be more optimistic.  Hannity has always been vanilla. Savage is angry and depressing. Hugh Hewitt is good for the Washington insiders info, Supreme Court, Capital Hill etc... Tom Sullivan is good for detailed economic info.

Also AM radio is just once source of info. The internet is saturated with leftwing garbage. Yahoo front page for example is one of the top news sources for the under 40 crowds. Its a combination of TMZ and MSNBC. Every other headline is an ad, mixed in with stories on the Khardshians. Complete garbage but it influences a lot of people. There is also Hollywood, movies and tv, magazines, the public education system, which are 90% leftwing.

Don't worry though, Reagan was elected twice including one of the largest landslides in the 20th century, at a time when conservative media consisted of 10min a week of George Will on Sunday morning's "This Week with David Brinkley".

The Hillary poll is just typical mainstream media trying to shore up the appearance of popularity. They share what they want to share. Just like when CNN would tell us 1000x a day Bush's approval rating was an all-time low, yet never seem to go below 44%. I can't remember the last time I heard about Obamas approval rating, its been years, so it's obviously low. Yep, 45%. A great source of all polling info, realclearpolitics.com.





yumyumtree

Actually I've always considered Rush to be one of those who does dwell awfully heavily on politics, excpet when he's talking about football. Hugh Hewitt, Dennis Prager and Michael Medved are more apt to do non-political topics with authors, etc. I feel Rush jumped the shark in the early 2000s, around the time of the drug problem, his third divorce and Donovan McNabb controversey.  That makes it sound like I don't like him.  Actually I do--I just think his show is past its prime.  He has also embarrassed himself when he ventures into topics such as medicine, science and the arts. And I get tired of hearing his childrens books promoted so much.  But I listen on weekends--that's about the right amount.

I suspect what you say about AM in general is true.  The calibre of advertisers is a clue.  I need to look up how many of Noory's stations are still AM.  He's been on an FM station here for several years. I guess talk radio and the end of the fairness doctrine gave AM a shot in the arm in the 80s and early 90s, now they are hurting again. The aging of the demographic I'm sure has something to do with it.  It's not that the older demographic doesn't HAVE as much money to spend on advertisers' products--a lot of them do, but they don't spend as readily on the products--energy drinks, cars, whatever.  Incidentally I understand that the youth clothing industry is feeling a hit because a lot young people are choosing to be more frugal with clothes so they can spend more on electronics.

Savage continues to perplex me.  Is he mentally ill, or what? Hannity has sounded tired for years. Medved is seriously ill and on a leave of absence.

Well, I just looked at the first 3 states on the list, and it seems that at least half of Coast stations are AM. That's about what I would have expected.

VegasI15

Quote from: Gd5150 on March 26, 2015, 02:24:50 PM
No question the popularity of AM political talk radio has gone down. Like everything else, its affected by the massive onslaught of digital media via smartphones and digital content available 24/7, Pandora, 10,000 song libraries on our phones, the gabcast and a zillion other podcasts etc... Just like newspapers and network news and their collapse.

Agreed, this I believe is closest to the truth.  Most people are watching The Voice, American Idol and the million other things out there.  So when it comes to politics the masses are clueless. 

Why did most people vote for Obama?  Because he is Black and it wouldn't be nice to vote against him.  It's not cause they know what Obama or Romney stood for.  And why are a lot of people going to vote for Hillary?  Simply because she is a woman.   I've already seen tweets and posts out there saying that verbatim. 

albrecht

Quote from: VegasI15 on March 26, 2015, 01:35:16 PM
Beck to me seems more like a long drawn out soap opera.  He was on O'reilly the other night spouting off about how he is going to leave the Republican party.  The guy can't make up his mind.
Did he shed tears?


albrecht

Quote from: VegasI15 on March 26, 2015, 05:23:22 PM
No but it was just...weird.  See for yourself.

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4132459229001/glenn-beck-leaving-the-republican-party/?#sp=show-clips
Very weird. Beck has way too much "bling" going on and that wanna-be hipster van-dyke? What is with all those bracelets, etc? A man should wear a watch if he wants any bling and a ring if he is married, though I veer European on that and say not even a ring. Not cheating but just that jewelry is for women.

bateman

Quote from: albrecht on March 26, 2015, 06:07:21 PM
Very weird. Beck has way too much "bling" going on and that wanna-be hipster van-dyke? What is with all those bracelets, etc? A man should wear a watch if he wants any bling and a ring if he is married, though I veer European on that and say not even a ring. Not cheating but just that jewelry is for women.

That's his Ben Franklin as a rapper look.

As far as his "leaving the Republican party", he pulls these silly stunts every now & then. Why now, you ask?

http://money.cnn.com/2015/03/05/media/glenn-beck-executives-exit/

The Blaze is losing a lot of money. It's not just these 2 execs that left either - he's been quietly firing people for almost a year now.

rzr1911

Quote from: MV on August 02, 2012, 12:03:29 AM
every time i start to watch a seemingly interesting video and i find it's the young turks, i want to bite my fucking desk. 
fuck.
Cenk is a liar, but in this case he's kinda right: Beck's show is really a comedy show, but his audience takes it serious, which makes it even more comical - or tragic.

albrecht

Quote from: bateman on March 26, 2015, 06:20:09 PM
That's his Ben Franklin as a rapper look.

As far as his "leaving the Republican party", he pulls these silly stunts every now & then. Why now, you ask?

http://money.cnn.com/2015/03/05/media/glenn-beck-executives-exit/

The Blaze is losing a lot of money. It's not just these 2 execs that left either - he's been quietly firing people for almost a year now.
Interesting. I never really followed the guy but starting a new network has to be $$$ and with the fragmented markets and number of channels, to me, seems sort of crazy. He always cried too much for me. Which is why I found the "feud" between my local nut, but success, Alex Jones and him funny. Both will get way too emotional but Beck tends more towards the crying bit and whereas Alex will do sometimes he usually just goes nuts in the rage category. Interesting, to me, is how Alex (like his stuff or not) has turned a "free model" into relatively big money (in terms of people etc.) Using local access tv, pirate FM, shortwave and then especially the internet and free dvds etc into something now big enough to get some national shows (local AMs and FM and C2C) and to market supplements and gold and gear; sold under their own branding (basically.)

yumyumtree

Quote from: albrecht on March 26, 2015, 06:07:21 PM
Very weird. Beck has way too much "bling" going on and that wanna-be hipster van-dyke? What is with all those bracelets, etc? A man should wear a watch if he wants any bling and a ring if he is married, though I veer European on that and say not even a ring. Not cheating but just that jewelry is for women.

The advantages of not having TV

pyewacket

Looks like Beck may have really stepped in it this time.

Quote from: politico.com
A looming First Amendment showdown drew closer Tuesday as a federal judge ordered conservative media host Glenn Beck to identify at least two confidential sources in connection with a defamation lawsuit stemming from Beck's reporting on the Boston Marathon bombing.

The suit was filed by Saudi Arabian student Abdulrahman Alharbi, who was injured at the scene of the deadly bombings. Beck continued to link the Saudi national to the attacks even after U.S. officials said publicly he'd been cleared.

U.S. District Court Judge Patti Saris ruled that Beck must disclose the names of two Department of Homeland Security employees who allegedly gave a Beck producer information backing up the radio and TV host's claim that Alharbi was the "money man" behind the attack.

The judge said deposition testimony from Beck and two of his top deputies at the time â€" Joel Cheatwood and Joe Weasel â€" was "vague and often contradictory" about what the sources said and when they said it. She also noted that the key sources spoke directly only with Weasel, who claimed to record the information on Post-It notes "which he then discarded."

Saris said she ordered the production of records from several government agencies, but they were not of help in confirming what the Beck aides were allegedly told. "None of the documents supports the idea that Alharbi was the 'the money man' financing the Boston Marathon attacks," the Boston-based judge wrote in her 61-page ruling.

The judge acknowledged that forcing disclosure of the sources' identities raised "First Amendment concerns," but she suggested those could be limited by restricting distribution of the information.

It's unclear whether Beck plans to comply with the disclosure order, which is directed to the defendants in the case: Beck, his companies TheBlaze Inc. and Mercury Radio Arts, as well as radio distributor Premiere Radio Networks. If they defy the order, the judge could impose sanctions, which could hurt their defense in the suit. She could also assess fines, or potentially even jail Beck for contempt.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2016/08/glenn-beck-boston-marathon-bombing-226841#ixzz4GtXr4lvU
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Quote from: pyewacket on August 09, 2016, 09:09:35 PM
Looks like Beck may have really stepped in it this time.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/blogs/under-the-radar/2016/08/glenn-beck-boston-marathon-bombing-226841#ixzz4GtXr4lvU
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What?  Two of Beck's "top deputies at the time" were guys named Cheatwood and Weasel?  Seriously?

  ;D ;D ;D

Cheers, Sweetie Darling!

albrecht

Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on August 09, 2016, 09:47:37 PM
What?  Two of Beck's "top deputies at the time" were guys named Cheatwood and Weasel?  Seriously?

  ;D ;D ;D

Cheers, Sweetie Darling!
There will be a long trail of tears. And, good catch, I didnt notice the names!?? But this means Alex will gloat.  :(

pyewacket

Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on August 09, 2016, 09:47:37 PM
What?  Two of Beck's "top deputies at the time" were guys named Cheatwood and Weasel?  Seriously?

  ;D ;D ;D

Cheers, Sweetie Darling!

Haha- that made me think of the Stooges.  Cheers, Sweetie Darling.  ;D


MV/Liberace!

Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on August 09, 2016, 09:47:37 PM
What?  Two of Beck's "top deputies at the time" were guys named Cheatwood and Weasel?  Seriously?

  ;D ;D ;D

Cheers, Sweetie Darling!

heh heh

Quote from: pyewacket on August 10, 2016, 12:02:11 AM
Haha- that made me think of the Stooges.  Cheers, Sweetie Darling.  ;D



I thought of that one, too, along with Ichabod Slipp!

pyewacket

Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on August 10, 2016, 11:01:19 AM
I thought of that one, too, along with Ichabod Slipp!

Haha- isn't he affiliated with the divorce firm, Ditcher, Quick, and Hyde?

Cheers, Sweetie

Quote from: Robert Ghostwolf's Ghost on August 09, 2016, 09:47:37 PM
What?  Two of Beck's "top deputies at the time" were guys named Cheatwood and Weasel?  Seriously?

  ;D ;D ;D

Cheers, Sweetie Darling!

Beck needs to seriously consider moving his show to the Cartoon Network.

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