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Quote from: SredniVashtar on November 11, 2022, 09:13:09 AM#MDLovesPenis

Well, I love mine. Yours is probably a whithered, diseased old knob.

Quote from: malachi.martini on November 10, 2022, 05:25:18 PM(((SOUTH AFRICAN WRITER))) ILANA MERCER EXPLAINS WHAT THE FUTURE HAS IN STORE FOR AMERICA

https://odysee.com/@JollyHeretic:d/South-African-Writer-Ilana-Mercer-Explains-What-the-Future-Has-In-Store-for-America:5

It's a worthwhile interview on the matter, despite the immediate apprehension upon noticing.



How curious!

Very curious and interesting, clearly an anomaly, a coincidence, some errors in the statistical analysis.

Yes, I've heard and read Ilana Mercer before. Good on African and 'urban' issues here. Not so good on some others though always interesting.

Quote from: K_Dubb on November 10, 2022, 10:27:05 PMLOL I told you Malachi I am not having your pure Aryan babies, sweet but creepy tho,  like a kiss from an iguana 

https://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1591190349330157568

Well, of course with all the time they had to do it they flipped Arizona blue. What a corrupt POS state. 🙄

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on November 12, 2022, 03:33:46 PMWell, of course with all the time they had to do it they flipped Arizona blue. What a corrupt POS state. 🙄

Someone should sit you down and explain how counting works. In some states the incumbent Red legislature forbade the counting of mailed in votes until AFTER the counting of same day vote counts, even though it was possible to do. So what has happened in the case of AZ is the voting workers are working 12-18 hour days to count the votes mailed in. And as long as they're postmarked last tuesday they're eligible to be counted. AZ is a POS state cos your boy didn't win? How shallow can you be?

I know it's a blow to you barbie, but that is how elections work. There is no rule that any one party should win. (Except Russia and Iraq in the past) That's what democracies do, they choose the winners and the losers.

Several years ago I was genuinely upset that John Smith, the then leader of the Labour party in the UK died and was replaced by Tony Blair. In my opinion, Blair was just Thatcher light. I think Smith would have been a much more 'people' PM if he'd won.

Look, dust yourself down, pick yourself up and seek out potential Republican candidates who aren't crazy; who actually defend and support democracy, and don't hero worship one guy who (and you know this) doesn't give a fuck about anyone or ANYTHING but slaking his own ego. Let it go barbie. He's not worth your devotion. He wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

Quote from: malachi.martini on November 12, 2022, 03:21:29 PMhttps://twitter.com/AnnCoulter/status/1591190349330157568

Ouch... Not that Trump will even take any notice, he never knew her, she made the coffee..

Quote from: Laser on November 10, 2022, 10:48:37 PMhttps://twitter.com/kylenabecker/status/1590249147269279745

How does it happen? Hmmm.. In short:

The electorate in general decided that they realised inflation and gas prices were not entirely in the control of the POTUS (Never have been), but that aside they (especially women) decided inflation and gas prices fluctuate and they can live with it; but what they can't live with is the taking away of control over their reproductive rights. And the very real possibility of clamp downs on IVF, contraception, inter racial marriage, same sex marriage and the general persecution of anyone who isn't a white male over 65 years old. For all their proclamations of 'freedom' and 'small' government' the MAGA crowd sure go for the control of people and the compliance of same to their way of 'thinking'.

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 12, 2022, 10:23:34 PMHow does it happen? Hmmm.. In short:

The electorate in general decided that they realised inflation and gas prices were not entirely in the control of the POTUS (Never have been), but that aside they (especially women) decided inflation and gas prices fluctuate and they can live with it; but what they can't live with is the taking away of control over their reproductive rights. And the very real possibility of clamp downs on IVF, contraception, inter racial marriage, same sex marriage and the general persecution of anyone who isn't a white male over 65 years old. For all their proclamations of 'freedom' and 'small' government' the MAGA crowd sure go for the control of people and the compliance of same to their way of 'thinking'.

Weird. The price of gad was pretty much stable for Trump's entire term and never flucuated more than a few cents here or there. 🤔

Also, do you ever foresee a time when you might also consider the rights of the child to be aborted and not just a  womens reproductive rights, whatever that means? 

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 12, 2022, 10:11:18 PMSomeone should sit you down and explain how counting works. In some states the incumbent Red legislature forbade the counting of mailed in votes until AFTER the counting of same day vote counts, even though it was possible to do. So what has happened in the case of AZ is the voting workers are working 12-18 hour days to count the votes mailed in. And as long as they're postmarked last tuesday they're eligible to be counted. AZ is a POS state cos your boy didn't win? How shallow can you be?

I know it's a blow to you barbie, but that is how elections work. There is no rule that any one party should win. (Except Russia and Iraq in the past) That's what democracies do, they choose the winners and the losers.

Several years ago I was genuinely upset that John Smith, the then leader of the Labour party in the UK died and was replaced by Tony Blair. In my opinion, Blair was just Thatcher light. I think Smith would have been a much more 'people' PM if he'd won.

Look, dust yourself down, pick yourself up and seek out potential Republican candidates who aren't crazy; who actually defend and support democracy, and don't hero worship one guy who (and you know this) doesn't give a fuck about anyone or ANYTHING but slaking his own ego. Let it go barbie. He's not worth your devotion. He wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire.

But Trump is the guy who was doing those things. Your side just redefines your evil as "democracy." It's nothing but gaslighting. Also, it never used to take days or weeks to count the votes in an election. It used to happen the same day.

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on November 13, 2022, 02:58:13 AMWeird. The price of gad was pretty much stable for Trump's entire term and never flucuated more than a few cents here or there. 🤔

And since then your good friend and mentor Putin invaded a sovereign nation. That put the cost of crude up, but at the same time the big corporations took advantage of it and gouged it deep, to the tune of about 54% of the total increase in inflation. But you knew that, right?

QuoteAlso, do you ever foresee a time when you might also consider the rights of the child to be aborted and not just a  womens reproductive rights, whatever that means? 

This is one of those times you give yourself away as not having anything to do with medicine let alone a doctor of it.

But just in case you're new to planet Earth I'll explain why I said reproductive health and not singled out abortion per se: In your utopia all unprotected* sex results in conception and the eventual birth and nurturing of a loved and well cared for child. The gestation period will be uneventful, the foetus will grow as nature intended, pre natal checks through the pregnancy will be optimal right up to give or take 38 weeks.

However; in the REALWORLD™ Several things can happen between the messy first part and the very messy last part. The foetus may not grow with all the parts in the correct place, it maybe ectopic and grow outside the womb (I take it you do know what a womb is?) which if not aborted will kill the mother. She may miscarry** and literally (as my sister in law did) go to the toilet and feel herself passing the foetus. The foetus may die in the womb through lack of oxygen if the umbilical cord doesn't form correctly. The skull may not develop and the brain be exposed.

ALL of the above can and do happen to women carrying a pregnancy. And this is even if the conception is wanted;

Now let's look at the ones that aren't.

A ten year old girl raped by the male members of her family and made pregnant. A forty year old woman who thought she'd never get pregnant again after having her last child when she was 28. The woman raped by her ex husband/boyfriend or a stranger. Contraception that failed.

*No contraception is 100% reliable.

In some of the manifestos of the Christo fascists who were standing as candidates, ALL of the reasons why a conception may not be viable were outlawed as reasons for abortion to a greater or lesser degree. Sure some did say only if the mother's life was at risk, but as in Texas today, ONLY if she was close to death already. And that is a hell of a gamble if sepsis has set in already. Imagine being the obstetrician and a woman turns up and you need to go and call a lawyer to find out if she's close enough to dying before giving an abortion? Legal rather than medical grounds. I'd also add that one of the drugs used for abortions and clearing miscarriages is also used in treatment for arthritis, so if/when that medication is banned for use in some states, the sufferers of arthritis will go without..

**Some of these fascists were proposing having a 'panel' to decide if a woman who claimed a miscarriage did actually have one. A fucking panel! How dystopian are these monsters?

Making abortion illegal won't stop abortions; All it will do is drive it underground and children and women will die as a result.

And to address this further: If the fucking Christo fascists were so 'pro life' how is it they only concern themselves about a foetus up to birth? After birth as far as they're concerned the child is on its own. They don't support child support, they don't think a woman should get any assistance with that. They think school shooter lock down practice is perfectly acceptable in a 'civilised' society that causes trauma and anxiety in children, no wonder some grow up with fucked up brains, they've only ever known being ready for catastrophic violence.

In closing, your 'argument' is less than persuasive.  And by extension, that is one of the reasons why the fascists were voted against. If you need further information, ask a grown up, or maybe a real doctor.

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on November 13, 2022, 03:01:55 AMBut Trump is the guy who was doing those things. Your side just redefines your evil as "democracy." It's nothing but gaslighting. Also, it never used to take days or weeks to count the votes in an election. It used to happen the same day.

Which 'things' are you specifically referring to? 'My' side just happens to believe that if you're eligible to vote then you should without hinderance from armed assholes hassling and intimidating poll workers and voters alike. I take it if 'your' side had won, the system would have worked perfectly, right?

QuoteAlso, it never used to take days or weeks to count the votes in an election. It used to happen the same day.

Hey barbie one reason is your lot; They wanted several cross checks and checks on checks to verify that those voting were who they said they were and were eligible to do so. This takes time, throw in that many voting workers quit because of intimidation from the drumpers, thus more work with fewer people means more time needed. You can't have it both ways. You want it accurate or do you want it fast? You don't want machines to count at several 1000 an hour; okay, hand count at a couple of dozen an hour.

Again, you're choosing to attack the method rather than the reason for the result. The reason for the result is most of the electorate don't want drump or his fascists, it really is that simple. You can whine and winge and cry MAGA tears all you want but your 'side' need to wake up and smell the coffee.

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 13, 2022, 12:05:34 PMAnd since then your good friend and mentor Putin invaded a sovereign nation. That put the cost of crude up, but at the same time the big corporations took advantage of it and gouged it deep, to the tune of about 54% of the total increase in inflation. But you knew that, right?

This is one of those times you give yourself away as not having anything to do with medicine let alone a doctor of it.

But just in case you're new to planet Earth I'll explain why I said reproductive health and not singled out abortion per se: In your utopia all unprotected* sex results in conception and the eventual birth and nurturing of a loved and well cared for child. The gestation period will be uneventful, the foetus will grow as nature intended, pre natal checks through the pregnancy will be optimal right up to give or take 38 weeks.

However; in the REALWORLD™ Several things can happen between the messy first part and the very messy last part. The foetus may not grow with all the parts in the correct place, it maybe ectopic and grow outside the womb (I take it you do know what a womb is?) which if not aborted will kill the mother. She may miscarry** and literally (as my sister in law did) go to the toilet and feel herself passing the foetus. The foetus may die in the womb through lack of oxygen if the umbilical cord doesn't form correctly. The skull may not develop and the brain be exposed.

ALL of the above can and do happen to women carrying a pregnancy. And this is even if the conception is wanted;

Now let's look at the ones that aren't.

A ten year old girl raped by the male members of her family and made pregnant. A forty year old woman who thought she'd never get pregnant again after having her last child when she was 28. The woman raped by her ex husband/boyfriend or a stranger. Contraception that failed.

*No contraception is 100% reliable.

In some of the manifestos of the Christo fascists who were standing as candidates, ALL of the reasons why a conception may not be viable were outlawed as reasons for abortion to a greater or lesser degree. Sure some did say only if the mother's life was at risk, but as in Texas today, ONLY if she was close to death already. And that is a hell of a gamble if sepsis has set in already. Imagine being the obstetrician and a woman turns up and you need to go and call a lawyer to find out if she's close enough to dying before giving an abortion? Legal rather than medical grounds. I'd also add that one of the drugs used for abortions and clearing miscarriages is also used in treatment for arthritis, so if/when that medication is banned for use in some states, the sufferers of arthritis will go without..

**Some of these fascists were proposing having a 'panel' to decide if a woman who claimed a miscarriage did actually have one. A fucking panel! How dystopian are these monsters?

Making abortion illegal won't stop abortions; All it will do is drive it underground and children and women will die as a result.

And to address this further: If the fucking Christo fascists were so 'pro life' how is it they only concern themselves about a foetus up to birth? After birth as far as they're concerned the child is on its own. They don't support child support, they don't think a woman should get any assistance with that. They think school shooter lock down practice is perfectly acceptable in a 'civilised' society that causes trauma and anxiety in children, no wonder some grow up with fucked up brains, they've only ever known being ready for catastrophic violence.

In closing, your 'argument' is less than persuasive.  And by extension, that is one of the reasons why the fascists were voted against. If you need further information, ask a grown up, or maybe a real doctor.

Some of what you say I actually agree with but I notice that you still side step the issue of the rights of baby. I guess to you they have none? Is everyone that disagrees with you a fascist?

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 13, 2022, 12:24:07 PMWhich 'things' are you specifically referring to? 'My' side just happens to believe that if you're eligible to vote then you should without hinderance from armed assholes hassling and intimidating poll workers and voters alike. I take it if 'your' side had won, the system would have worked perfectly, right?

Hey barbie one reason is your lot; They wanted several cross checks and checks on checks to verify that those voting were who they said they were and were eligible to do so. This takes time, throw in that many voting workers quit because of intimidation from the drumpers, thus more work with fewer people means more time needed. You can't have it both ways. You want it accurate or do you want it fast? You don't want machines to count at several 1000 an hour; okay, hand count at a couple of dozen an hour.

Again, you're choosing to attack the method rather than the reason for the result. The reason for the result is most of the electorate don't want drump or his fascists, it really is that simple. You can whine and winge and cry MAGA tears all you want but your 'side' need to wake up and smell the coffee.

Nah! We just need to round up the criminals and give them free helicopter rides.

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on November 13, 2022, 01:21:25 PMNah! We just need to round up the criminals and give them free helicopter rides.

Sure. Now answer the question about what things you were referrng to. You accused Kdubb of not being able to debate  now  you can't.

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 13, 2022, 02:35:11 PMSure. Now answer the question about what things you were referrng to. You accused Kdubb of not being able to debate  now  you can't.

I'd answer you but the question is so poorly phrased I'm not even sure what you're asking me.

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on November 13, 2022, 02:37:48 PMI'd answer you but the question is so poorly phrased I'm not even sure what you're asking me.

"But Trump is the guy who was doing those things."

Is what you said...

So what things?

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on November 13, 2022, 01:16:29 PMSome of what you say I actually agree with but I notice that you still side step the issue of the rights of baby. I guess to you they have none? Is everyone that disagrees with you a fascist?

Not side stepping at all. When my son's mother was giving birth the chord was round his neck, long story short it was a difficult birth for both. But if there had been an either/or crisis, I'd have wanted her to live over him.

As you've never been in that position you're not remotely qualified to decide by proxy if a woman should or shouldn't decide to terminate a pregnancy. How are you on sex before marriage and contraception? Would it be valid to ban either/both? And if not, why not?

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 13, 2022, 03:18:15 PMNot side stepping at all. When my son's mother was giving birth the chord was round his neck, long story short it was a difficult birth for both. But if there had been an either/or crisis, I'd have wanted her to live over him.

As you've never been in that position you're not remotely qualified to decide by proxy if a woman should or shouldn't decide to terminate a pregnancy. How are you on sex before marriage and contraception? Would it be valid to ban either/both? And if not, why not?

OK but We're not talking about exceptions to the rule. What about examples where there is no threat to the mother and she was not raped?

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on November 13, 2022, 03:33:24 PMOK but We're not talking about exceptions to the rule. What about examples where there is no threat to the mother and she was not raped?

Still her body. Not yours not mine, certainly not a fucking politician's. Her choice. For whatever reason, be it financial, social, psychological, medical.

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 12, 2022, 10:23:34 PMThe electorate in general decided 

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 13, 2022, 03:41:58 PMStill her body. Not yours not mine, certainly not a fucking politician's. Her choice. For whatever reason, be it financial, social, psychological, medical.

So, if you're a woman murdering your own baby is alright no matter what the reason, no questions asked? 

Quote from: malachi.martini on November 13, 2022, 03:43:35 PM

But if the 'red wave' had swamped the beech you'd have praised the outcome and the system, right?

Drump lost the Reps three elections on the bounce. Naturally his cult 'think' it was rigged (drump said the 2016 was until he won!). Because he cannot accept he's a natural loser, only in his head is he anything else. No-one has a casino go bust, he lost two!