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The Ukraine CrySis - Crimea River

Started by pate, September 04, 2022, 06:48:47 PM


K_Dubb

Quote from: WOTR on October 29, 2022, 06:46:50 PMIt was a moment of weakness. I just wanted the name of the journalistic award he received, and it seemed like a quick way to find it. Yes... I am ashamed.  :-[ I was simply commenting that they have really done a number on his page- and I'm wondering if it is since he is hosting Dore's show, or if it predated that.

I'm willing to come clean in an effort to help you financially. I am aware that you are taking the "Soros Bux". I had looked into it some time back, but found that Putin paid better. On average, I'm paid almost twice the "Soros" rate per paragraph. And there is a bonus from Syria if you can work them in as well. They pay me roughly a quarter of their annual GDP for my posts (The cheques generally average $17.27.)

I will say that since Putin committed a terrorist act against his own pipeline and contributed to crippling his economy, the pay has been reduced. But it is still well worth listening to Pud and Shreddie accuse you of being a "Putin puppet." They should see the Bugatti parked in my drive.  ;)




Haha no way, Poo Tin hates LGBT but Soros wants to make all the manly men gay and I am behind that 100% or in front of that, depending

K_Dubb

Quote from: WOTR on October 30, 2022, 12:40:29 AMThe funny thing about the situation is that it would now be me, MD, Aldous and a few other far right BG posters out protesting war at Kent state and it would be the woke, transgender, purple haired "them" in the national guard who shoots us. I keep saying that the rolls have reversed- only the new left still hold on to the belief that they have the same values as the hippies and are "good" instead of looking in the mirror at the reflection of Nixon.

*Did you know that Lennon was a Khrushchev's Klown? Can you imagine him not understanding that if we didn't stop Russia and communism in Vietnam we would all be calling each other comrade? Give peace a chance... And allow Russia to take the whole of Vietnam Ukraine?

Hear. Muzak to cheer the next decade of wars on.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEX7Xxfr-qc

So before you were a Jew with a yellow star, now you are a hippie, I think there's a wheelie-riding furry in there somewhere, too.  Holy moly!  Are all Canadians former theater kids who love to play dressup?   :o


K_Dubb

Quote from: Silphion on October 30, 2022, 04:03:13 AMIf that's all you've got in discrediting Scott Ritter you're not rolling out the propaganda very well. We all know the story, false charges and marginalization. Let us in on how he must be a paid Russisn disinformation agent. Do your job for Putin's sake!

It's not all I got; it's all I need, you pedo-defender 🚩 get 'em boys


Dr. MD MD

Ad hominem is all he's got, folks. He's got nowhere else to go.


K_Dubb

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on October 30, 2022, 10:46:15 AMAd hominem is all he's got, folks. He's got nowhere else to go.



It's true, you don't know how many times I have been banned from reddit for fat-shaming and calling for the gassing of the Swedes  :(

pate

Quote from: SredniVashtar on October 30, 2022, 09:45:42 AMIt's no coincidence that Putin is a judo black belt.., and they are all about using your opponent's strength against you. They've totally lost any understanding of who the enemy is now. They spend all their waking hours watching Tucker Carlson and yelling at clouds.

Due to my inability to verstehen your pidgin-Anglish:  I understood this to read that "theythe hobo elitits" you are referring to are the Russians?

Nautical Shore.

Also:



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WOTR

Quote from: SredniVashtar on October 30, 2022, 09:23:42 AMYou can't have someone unilaterally take the opposite side when they are part of the actual government.

 

You are correct. In your screwed up system of government (and mine) the prime minister is elected dictator. There are whips to keep people in line, caucus positions and expulsion from the party if they dare to vote against what they are told by the PMO. The US is flawed, but they don't suffer this issues. Individuals regularly ignore what the party says and vote how their biggest donors electorate tell them to.

Quote from: SredniVashtar on October 30, 2022, 09:23:42 AMYou can't have someone unilaterally take the opposite side when they are part of the actual government.

It isn't a question of asking someone to go and fight in a way, for god's sake. Modern wars are all fought by modern armies, you can't just send a bunch of half-trained soldiers into a hot war these days. The idea that anyone's son or daughter (unless they are in the military) are going to have to fight is far-fetched.

Somebody should probably tell the conscripts this and question why they have banned males from 18 (16?) - 60 from leaving the Ukraine if they don't have any military experience. You may even recall some idiot youtubers who went over thinking that they could LARP and join the Ukraine forces while virtue signalling.

The sad fact of the matter is that nations at war are always on the lookout for cannon fodder. And as the trained, professional soldiers dwindle- every nation will look for replacements wherever they can find them. No- the west will not be sending your kids to Russia. (I assume they are saving them for a sacrifice to China.)

Quote from: SredniVashtar on October 30, 2022, 09:23:42 AMIf you want to stop a major war you have to be prepared to fight a smaller one, it's that simple. If you back off from every confrontation then they only get emboldened and try to take more and more.

What about when China invades Taiwan? Are you already lining up the arguments to support that war as well?

WOTR

Quote from: SredniVashtar on October 30, 2022, 09:34:24 AMAs you well know, pretty much everyone on the Left was against the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, and the Right was all about getting out there and giving them ragheads a good dustin'. Your love of illicit roubles has conquered any residual affection you might have had for the truth and you're inhabiting some fairyland where you seem to regard yourself as a freedom fighter instead of (what you really are) MD's gimp.

As I well know? I was on a board that was around 90% left and I was a young, right leaning poster. I can tell you that both the left and the right were calling for turning the desert into a sheet of glass. And no- the left was no "kinder" or more understanding or anti-war than the Bushites. It's a good thing that I kind of enjoy arguing- because on that board of a few hundred active posters there were probably only 5 or 10 of us who were saying it should not happen. Yes- the right may have called them "ragheads" but the left was no better cheering the invasion and wanting "them" dead. (Much kinder and more PC wishing "them" dead and not using a term like raghead.)

Now, perhaps it was just a very war happy forum. Perhaps they didn't really represent the general population. Possibly all of the leftists were firmly against the war. But not that I had seen.

WOTR

Quote from: K_Dubb on October 30, 2022, 10:35:33 AMSo before you were a Jew with a yellow star, now you are a hippie, I think there's a wheelie-riding furry in there somewhere, too.  Holy moly!  Are all Canadians former theater kids who love to play dressup?  :o



A jew with a yellow star protesting for human rights, human dignity and against tyranny dovetails nicely with being anti-war (and also anti WEF and anti CBDC, for the record.) I'm sure that there are a few who were out there who stand with the Ukraine- but not many. Head to any of the protest telegram groups or pages.

If you look at just about any of the high profile protesters, they have been against war from the beginning. The "I support with the current thing" memes started the minute the Ukraine war did. (Most of the ones that I had seen had the NPC with needles in his arm and a Ukraine flag on his head or some version of that.)

Nope. I'm not saying that I'm a hippy. I'm saying that you should think long and hard about how far the left had drifted from where they started when MD is closer to John Lennon than most of the posters on this board who claim to be "left."

As for a furry- there was a black panther in coveralls at some of the more "sensitive" protests (read politicians houses.) It seemed like he maybe didn't want to be connected as a protester at other events to avoid the harassment of the cops or being identified. I stalked him for a few months but never got to capture him...


Wondered if Ivan was gonna purge all the corruption and incompetence out his Army and get his shit together this winter. Looks like the answer might be...no.

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1586905205500772360

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Walks_At_Night on October 30, 2022, 09:07:53 PMWondered if Ivan was gonna purge all the corruption and incompetence out his Army and get his shit together this winter. Looks like the answer might be...no.

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1586905205500772360


Asuka Langley

Quote from: Walks_At_Night on October 30, 2022, 09:07:53 PMWondered if Ivan was gonna purge all the corruption and incompetence out his Army and get his shit together this winter. Looks like the answer might be...no.

https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1586905205500772360

AK-74M is fine
plum furniture is fine


K_Dubb

Quote from: WOTR on October 30, 2022, 08:20:26 PMNope. I'm not saying that I'm a hippy. I'm saying that you should think long and hard about how far the left had drifted from where they started when MD is closer to John Lennon than most of the posters on this board who claim to be "left."

LOL Dr "civil war time now" MDMD is some kind of peacenik, I'm sorry I just can't take anything seriously after that I am laughing my ass off  ;D  the only reason he is opposed is that we are proxy-fighting his daddy boo.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: K_Dubb on October 30, 2022, 11:48:21 PMLOL Dr "civil war time now" MDMD is some kind of peacenik, I'm sorry I just can't take anything seriously after that I am laughing my ass off  ;D  the only reason he is opposed is that we are proxy-fighting his daddy boo.

I'm not saying I'm better or greater than...
I just said what I said and now it's all this.


WOTR

Quote from: K_Dubb on October 30, 2022, 11:48:21 PMLOL Dr "civil war time now" MDMD is some kind of peacenik, I'm sorry I just can't take anything seriously after that I am laughing my ass off  ;D  the only reason he is opposed is that we are proxy-fighting his daddy boo.
You are just upset because he hasn't tossed you from any building recently.  :P

*I'm not certain that I see a lot of peacenik behaviour in the people parroting the arguments for the Vietnam war word for word and applying them to this war.

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: WOTR on October 30, 2022, 11:58:20 PMYou are just upset because he hasn't tossed you from any building recently.  :P

*I'm not certain that I see a lot of peacenik behaviour in the people parroting the arguments for the Vietnam war word for word and applying them to this war.



I'd like to own a squadron of tanks.

Laser

Quote from: Laser on October 30, 2022, 05:13:50 AMThose dutiful little Brits are now being accused of doing dirtiwork for the Great Empire. Such slander! Pud and Shreddie must be incensed, fustigating in their own stew, poor sods.

https://sputniknews.com/20221029/russian-mod-uk-royal-navy-officials-involved--in-nord-stream-terrorist-act-1102824104.html

Well, speak up and defend Britannia.


K_Dubb

Quote from: WOTR on October 30, 2022, 11:58:20 PMYou are just upset because he hasn't tossed you from any building recently.  :P

*I'm not certain that I see a lot of peacenik behaviour in the people parroting the arguments for the Vietnam war word for word and applying them to this war.

Because this is the closest thing to the classic Just War of self-defense that most moral systems recognize that we are likely to see in our lifetimes, and it is good to help when we can.

Are you seriously thinking they should have just rolled over?  Who does that?

The ONLY sort of anti-war pacifist argument you can make here is that, by arming them and encouraging them, we are prolonging their suffering in the face of an inevitable defeat but that is fucking over man they are kicking ass 🥳 fuck Poo Tin

Laser

Quote from: Laser on October 31, 2022, 12:19:09 AMWell, speak up and defend Britannia.


It can only get worse.

Quote"It now appears that this attack on the Russian naval base at Sevastopol was carried out not only with the help of NATO electronic air support but also with British naval attack drones, very likely remotely piloted by specialists of his majesty the king of the insidious Albion,"

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: K_Dubb on October 31, 2022, 12:28:13 AMBecause this is the closest thing to the classic Just War of self-defense that most moral systems recognize that we are likely to see in our lifetimes, and it is good to help when we can.

LOL! ;D

OK, now I've had my laugh.

Dr. MD MD

2014 Ukraine elects a pro-Russian president.
2015 US backs coup to depose him and install a pro-US puppet president
    The big guy gets his 10% kickback
    His son Hunter is given a phony job there to keep an eye on things for dad
    They start shelling the Russian speaking region of Ukraine and don't stop
    until Putin invades.
2022 Billions of tax dollars are given to Nazi battalions to fight a proxy war on
    our behalf

Where are you seeing a just war here?!

K_Dubb

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on October 31, 2022, 01:28:40 AM2014 Ukraine elects a pro-Russian president.
2015 US backs coup to depose him and install a pro-US puppet president
    The big guy gets his 10% kickback
    His son Hunter is given a phony job there to keep an eye on things for dad
    They start shelling the Russian speaking region of Ukraine and don't stop
    until Putin invades.
2022 Billions of tax dollars are given to Nazi battalions to fight a proxy war on
    our behalf

Where are you seeing a just war here?!

I am perfectly aware of Pootie's case for war which you have helpfully regurgitated here from his ass where you got it, I do not accept a single fucking word of it, Russia under Putin is an old-school imperialist land-grabbing state, see Georgia and Chechnya.  Bullshit provocations, blame the smaller weaker country, never Russia's fault, so boring, so predictable.

But I don't care, even if all of it were true, people facing hundreds of tanks coming across their borders are allowed to fight back.  They don't want to be Russia.  They want to join the civilized West and have rainbow flags and drag queen story time 🥳

Silphion

Quote from: K_Dubb on October 31, 2022, 12:28:13 AMBecause this is the closest thing to the classic Just War of self-defense that most moral systems recognize that we are likely to see in our lifetimes, and it is good to help when we can.

Are you seriously thinking they should have just rolled over?  Who does that?

The ONLY sort of anti-war pacifist argument you can make here is that, by arming them and encouraging them, we are prolonging their suffering in the face of an inevitable defeat but that is fucking over man they are kicking ass 🥳 fuck Poo Tin


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: K_Dubb on October 31, 2022, 01:47:06 AMI am perfectly aware of Pootie's case for war which you have helpfully regurgitated here from his ass where you got it, I do not accept a single fucking word of it, Russia under Putin is an old-school imperialist land-grabbing state, see Georgia and Chechnya.  Bullshit provocations, blame the smaller weaker country, never Russia's fault, so boring, so predictable.

But I don't care, even if all of it were true, people facing hundreds of tanks coming across their borders are allowed to fight back.  They don't want to be Russia.  They want to join the civilized West and have rainbow flags and drag queen story time 🥳

It is all true. You are a Nazi supporter.

K_Dubb

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on October 31, 2022, 01:54:05 AMIt is all true. You are a Nazi supporter.

But they are gay Nazis.  I told you, it's perfectly acceptable to have problematic opinions as long as you take it up the pooper 🥳

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: K_Dubb on October 31, 2022, 01:56:35 AMBut they are gay Nazis.  I told you, it's perfectly acceptable to have problematic opinions as long as you take it up the pooper 🥳

And that's why you gotta go now.



WOTR

Quote from: K_Dubb on October 31, 2022, 12:28:13 AMBecause this is the closest thing to the classic Just War of self-defense that most moral systems recognize that we are likely to see in our lifetimes, and it is good to help when we can.

Are you seriously thinking they should have just rolled over?  Who does that?

The ONLY sort of anti-war pacifist argument you can make here is that, by arming them and encouraging them, we are prolonging their suffering in the face of an inevitable defeat but that is fucking over man they are kicking ass 🥳 fuck Poo Tin

Just so that I know what to expect... When China invades Taiwan, can I look forward to these same arguments? Don't get me wrong- I hope like hell that they can repel Xi's army. I just don't know that entering that war will be a great idea either (particularly when we are already a little preoccupied standing with the Ukraine.)


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