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pate/K_Dubb 2020 - "We are going to fix this shit"

Started by pate, July 18, 2020, 04:06:34 PM

Three of the five below are the correct answers, you are invited to choose one. Just remember that the odds are in your flavor, but which is the favorite oddity?

Biden/Harris (D)
2 (7.7%)
pate/K_Dubb (aye)
7 (26.9%)
pate/K_Dubb (eye)
8 (30.8%)
pate/K_Dubb (I)
5 (19.2%)
Trump/Pence (R)
4 (15.4%)

Total Members Voted: 26

Voting closed: November 23, 2020, 09:01:44 PM


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on August 21, 2020, 10:26:58 AM
I would like to be considered for the position of Headsman in Chief (Head Headsman?) in the K_Dubb/Pate Government. There will be some business to be attended to after the election.  Have axe will travel.

You can start by losing 10 pounds of useless weight yourself. Chop your own head off.


K_Dubb

Quote from: pate on August 21, 2020, 01:48:47 PM
My personal taste in such mad-hattery is to be (or Naught) athwartships.

Yes, like Nelson.  Did I tell you about the time he asked me to pass the salt?

pate

Quote from: K_Dubb on August 21, 2020, 02:38:02 PM
Yes, like Nelson.  Did I tell you about the time he asked me to pass the salt?

I am Nautical Shore about that.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=440l8poSQiA

Pray tell, it sounds to be a good Reed?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LrMLt9bMd_I

pate?K_Dubb 2020
"We are going to fix this shit"


K_Dubb

Quote from: pate on August 21, 2020, 03:25:09 PM
Pray tell, it sounds to be a good Reed?

I have reread the whole series many times now there is nothing else like it.

pate

Quote from: K_Dubb on August 21, 2020, 03:57:49 PM
I have reread the whole series many times now there is nothing else like it.

Have you read Twenty-one?  A sad, brief and perfect Coda to Mr. O'Brien's masterful workings...  It ends abruptly, on course to the last sunset.

I would have a glass with you, Sir!

A toast:

Salut!

Which reminds me, I saw a billboard yesterday announcing another fine brew in Kansas City.  Although they misspelt the word, I will have to acquire and appreciate this new mystery.  The empty cans will be a wonderful addition to my growing collection.  I hope some-day to wall the Man-Cave, office and library with them, tastefully placed around the tasteful, deeply stained Walnut shelving shit that will eventually be affixed therein.



This will be added to the Only Good Beer list I imagine.

pate/K_Dubb 2020
"We are going to fix this shit"

K_Dubb

Quote from: pate on August 21, 2020, 04:12:57 PM
Have you read Twenty-one?  A sad, brief and perfect Coda to Mr. O'Brien's masterful workings...  It ends abruptly, on course to the last sunset.

I would have a glass with you, Sir!

A toast:

Salut!

Which reminds me, I saw a billboard yesterday announcing another fine brew in Kansas City.  Although they misspelt the word, I will have to acquire and appreciate this new mystery.  The empty cans will be a wonderful addition to my growing collection.  I hope some-day to wall the Man-Cave, office and library with them, tastefully placed around the tasteful, deeply stained Walnut shelving shit that will eventually be affixed therein.



This will be added to the Only Good Beer list I imagine.

pate/K_Dubb 2020
"We are going to fix this shit"


A glass perhaps of hock, slung under the keel in a bag to chill hahaha though I'd love to try that beer!

I have avoided the last one; I don't think I can bear it.

albrecht

Quote from: pate on August 21, 2020, 04:12:57 PM
Have you read Twenty-one?  A sad, brief and perfect Coda to Mr. O'Brien's masterful workings...  It ends abruptly, on course to the last sunset.

I would have a glass with you, Sir!

A toast:

Salut!

Which reminds me, I saw a billboard yesterday announcing another fine brew in Kansas City.  Although they misspelt the word, I will have to acquire and appreciate this new mystery.  The empty cans will be a wonderful addition to my growing collection.  I hope some-day to wall the Man-Cave, office and library with them, tastefully placed around the tasteful, deeply stained Walnut shelving shit that will eventually be affixed therein.



This will be added to the Only Good Beer list I imagine.

pate/K_Dubb 2020
"We are going to fix this shit"

Kölsch is a good beer, especially in summer.  I'm not sure (someone probably is) if anyone is making it here altbier which is the competing regional style a few miles north in Düsseldorf is good, but somewhat acquired. Also served in too small glasses but, usually, the publican or waitress keeps them coming and just tics how many you have on the beer mat and you settle up later. Served with the high foam and small glasses like the Dutch do, which I never quite understood. Seems like more work for the barman and less beer for you.


Where will we stand on this crucial issue!? Keep our foot or use the other foot?
"Whether they embrace the new one or not, the old foot will be obsolete as of Jan. 1, 2023, according to the National Institute of Standards and Technology, the agency within the Department of Commerce with the authority to fix weights and measures for the U.S."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/science/foot-surveying-metrology-dennis.html 



pate

Quote from: albrecht on August 21, 2020, 04:19:37 PM
Kölsch is a good beer, especially in summer.  I'm not sure (someone probably is) if anyone is making it here altbier which is the competing regional style a few miles north in Düsseldorf is good, but somewhat acquired. Also served in too small glasses but, usually, the publican or waitress keeps them coming and just tics how many you have on the beer mat and you settle up later. Served with the high foam and small glasses like the Dutch do, which I never quite understood. Seems like more work for the barman and less beer for you.


Where will we stand on this crucial issue!? Keep our foot or use the other foot?
"Whether they embrace the new one or not, the old foot will be obsolete as of Jan. 1, 2023, according to the National Institute of Standards and Technology, the agency within the Department of Commerce with the authority to fix weights and measures for the U.S."

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/18/science/foot-surveying-metrology-dennis.html

My smoking hot German girlfriend lived in Bonn, which is just up the river from Köln.  There is nothing like the late afternoon beer drinking that goes on there at this time of year!  The waitress just runs around with a tray full of beers bopping them down wherever there is an empty.

From my adventures with her in '06:

[attachment=1,msg1414370]

You can see the both of us vaguely in the reflection there.

We almost got married, she wanted to live here and I wanted to live there strangely enough was the reason that it did not happen.  My parents went to her wedding while I was heartbroken in Basic Training.  She has visited with her husband and children, but I refuse to see her.  It would be too much for me to bear.  However, if my First Lady has a current passport I believe I could bear to see her again so long as the First Lady is by my side.

As to the question of the foot, I believe chefist is the Director of NIST which probably deals with that issue.  I would keep the foot we know;  I just hope that Biden can avoid placing it firmly in his mouth.

pate/K_Dubb 2020
"We are going to fix this shit"

albrecht

Quote from: pate on August 21, 2020, 05:56:47 PM
My smoking hot German girlfriend lived in Bonn, which is just up the river from Köln.  There is nothing like the late afternoon beer drinking that goes on there at this time of year!  The waitress just runs around with a tray full of beers bopping them down wherever there is an empty.

From my adventures with her in '06:

 

You can see the both of us vaguely in the reflection there.

We almost got married, she wanted to live here and I wanted to live there strangely enough was the reason that it did not happen.  My parents went to her wedding while I was heartbroken in Basic Training.  She has visited with her husband and children, but I refuse to see her.  It would be too much for me to bear.  However, if my First Lady has a current passport I believe I could bear to see her again so long as the First Lady is by my side.

As to the question of the foot, I believe chefist is the Director of NIST which probably deals with that issue.  I would keep the foot we know;  I just hope that Biden can avoid placing it firmly in his mouth.

pate/K_Dubb 2020
"We are going to fix this shit"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqQ7duF8SPQ



pate

Quote from: albrecht on August 21, 2020, 04:19:37 PM
Kölsch is a good beer, especially in summer.  I'm not sure (someone probably is) if anyone is making it here ...

Also, alby I forgot to add:

https://kcbier.com/biers/kc-kolsch/

That place is awesome, they have a German night once a month on a Thursday where locals that are transplants from Germany gather to speak the mother tongue.  I have been a few times with my deck of Dopplekopf cards, in search of a game. 

I love that game, it is sort of like spades, but way better!  The best part is you do not know who your partner is generally until the end of the game, or if there is a Vorbehalt armut or hochzeit where you immediately know who is on your team.

I learned to play it while drinking, it is a hoot! 

http://whiteknucklecards.com/games/doppelkopf.html

It is definitely on the "Really Fun Games" shit-list!

pate/K_Dubb 2020
"We are going to fix this shit"

pate

Quote from: albrecht on August 21, 2020, 06:06:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqQ7duF8SPQ

That song is awesome!  I have been to the castle shown in the opening scene, they have a small cafe there that serves delicious cakes.  K_Dubb, Roz and all other lovers of finely crafted baked goods would enjoy the place.

Thanks for the song, it is as if it was written for me!

Thank you in advance!  It is an honor to serve.

pate/K_Dubb 2020
"We are going to fix this shit"

Kidnostad3

Quote from: pate on August 21, 2020, 11:05:08 AM
Eye dig, grok and/or take your meaning, sir!

Kid, you already wear the SecNav hat;  why not another for your collection?

I will call it "Chief of Heady Issues" or somesuch, you may call it what you will and/or wish.  Whatever the nomenclature  Aye find it tasty.

pate/K_Dubb 2020
"We are going to fix this shit"


I'm honored to accept the SECNAV position but I can still do the headsman gig as a collateral duty--you know, nights and weekends...  Keep me in mind.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: K_Dubb on August 21, 2020, 12:20:00 PM
As long as one of them is cocked!



Yeah, that fore and aft cover was stylish, wasn’t it?  It must have been a little tricky negotiating hatches and scuttles wearing one but I gotta admit it was sexy.

Kidnostad3

Quote from: pate on August 21, 2020, 05:56:47 PM
My smoking hot German girlfriend lived in Bonn, which is just up the river from Köln.  There is nothing like the late afternoon beer drinking that goes on there at this time of year!  The waitress just runs around with a tray full of beers bopping them down wherever there is an empty.

From my adventures with her in '06:

[attachment=1,msg1414370]

You can see the both of us vaguely in the reflection there.

Never been to Bonn.  Was in Frankfurt, Munchen and Oberamagau briefly while on active duty and took a tour to Berlin from Waramundi

We almost got married, she wanted to live here and I wanted to live there strangely enough was the reason that it did not happen.  My parents went to her wedding while I was heartbroken in Basic Training.  She has visited with her husband and children, but I refuse to see her.  It would be too much for me to bear.  However, if my First Lady has a current passport I believe I could bear to see her again so long as the First Lady is by my side.

As to the question of the foot, I believe chefist is the Director of NIST which probably deals with that issue.  I would keep the foot we know;  I just hope that Biden can avoid placing it firmly in his mouth.

pate/K_Dubb 2020
"We are going to fix this shit"


Never been to Bonn but was in Frankfurt, Munchen and Oberamagau briefly while on active duty and after I retired took a tour from Weramundi to Berlin while on a Baltic cruise.  Would like to take a Rhine River Cruise which would include a stop in Bonn, pandemics permitting. 

albrecht

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on August 21, 2020, 08:10:48 PM
Never been to Bonn but was in Frankfurt, Munchen and Oberamagau briefly while on active duty and after I retired took a tour from Weramundi to Berlin while on a Baltic cruise.  Would like to take a Rhine River Cruise which would include a stop in Bonn, pandemics permitting.
The Mosel River area is also very beautiful and especially during the wine festival times. Even though I'm not particular to wine of that variety it is a very picturesque region, and has the castles, ruins, vineyards, etc. And for the more historical bent various stuff from both Wars and more ancient. I once witnessed a #metoo moment in which the local burgermeister 'congratulated' the local wine fraulein a bit too much, to the amusement of all (except her.) He was very Clinton/Biden like and was all hands and a bit too much kissing. (I think the idea is similar to our small towns who have a beauty queen for whatever local industry/crop.)

albrecht

Quote from: pate on August 21, 2020, 06:24:31 PM
That song is awesome!  I have been to the castle shown in the opening scene, they have a small cafe there that serves delicious cakes.  K_Dubb, Roz and all other lovers of finely crafted baked goods would enjoy the place.

Thanks for the song, it is as if it was written for me!

Thank you in advance!  It is an honor to serve.

pate/K_Dubb 2020
"We are going to fix this shit"

It is a cover but I think Townes does the song well. Doesn't quite 'hit' some octaves range changes in this version per the original but I blame his drinking- for the excellent cover version and his other great work.

ps: that card game sounds fun. It is weird how one can learn a card game drunk and play- at least on some level- but then attempt later sober or try to explain rules and be at a lost. I think I've played "Skat" before there but I couldn't tell you how to play.

pate

Quote from: Kidnostad3 on August 21, 2020, 06:54:20 PM
I'm honored to accept the SECNAV position but I can still do the headsman gig as a collateral duty--you know, nights and weekends...  Keep me in mind.

Hell yeah, actually I encourage everyone to wear multiple hats.  You can rock both a SecNav admiral's hat and the gallowman's hood of the "Chief of Heady Issues" if you want to be in charge of that sort of shit-fixery.

Thank you in advance!  It is an honor to serve.

pate/K_Dubb 2020
"We are going to fix this shit"

pate

Two hundred fifteen, Saturday (FSS Three Day Weekend, FFS)"PLANK, DON'T RUN" : "JEWELED ALIEN" : "TRIUMVIRATE ARCH" : "METHUSULA PROGENY"

I was inspecting one of my bookcases today, the one that holds the various books of Languages I am somewhat proficient in and others that I wish to study at some point;  Latin you have been warned fairly!  This one also holds the college textbooks that I have managed to not lose, Unabridged Dictionaries, various versions of the Bible, and other sundry texts.

Anyhow, on the bottom shelf is an old bust that one of my friends made of me in one of the many pottery classes I took.  I keep it as a vanity, a small sin of Pride and it amuses me for some reason.  I do not know the exact year or date that it was made, I suspect it must be from the mid-nineties as that would be the time period I was at the particular school of higher learning where I know it was made.  The class assignment was to pair up and make portraits of each other from clay.  My guess is that this is the artists rendition of my then nineteenish year-old visage.

I think that perhaps this should be another campaign plank;  as part of the official Make America Pate Again movement busts, statues and portraits of all high office holders, notable campaign volunteers and others worthy of such shall be constructed and displayed, very probably near Bronze Elk Statues as space allows.  This will keep artisans, sculptors and painters busy fixing shit and will be good for the economy and the public will benefit from the many beautiful sculptures that will adorn the Parks, Avenues and Governmental buildings.

K_Dubb, Attend:  Hold my beer!

This probably a mistake, but I ask everyone to avert their eyes except The One who should know who she is:

[attachment=1]

Dear God, I hope I do not regret this!

Hahaha!

I no longer have hippie hair or a beard.  I do sport some Elvis-esque chops that are a bit more pointy than the chops I sported then.  I note that I was a pipe-smoker back then, I preferred wooden ones with a meerschaum insert in the bowl.

So there is text around the edge that reads:  "caress the cactus:  what shall be MIGHT be......."  Which was an inside joke about a plate that I made for a certain lady I was in pursuit of at the time;  it had a coyote howling at a full moon and the edge was decorated with cactii.  I delivered this to the young lass on her birthday, I wonder if she still has it?  I don't even remember her name, but she was very pretty:  the face I can still see in my mind.  Very probably her name was a variation on the "Rose," I guess I have a weird thing about the Rosannas, Rosilands, Roseys &c.  How delicious.

Thank you in advance!  It is an honor to serve.

pate/K_Dubb 2020
"We are going to fix this shit"

albrecht

Quote from: pate on August 21, 2020, 09:47:57 PM
Two hundred fifteen, Saturday (FSS Three Day Weekend, FFS)"PLANK, DON'T RUN" : "JEWELED ALIEN" : "TRIUMVIRATE ARCH" : "METHUSULA PROGENY"

I was inspecting one of my bookcases today, the one that holds the various books of Languages I am somewhat proficient in and others that I wish to study at some point;  Latin you have been warned fairly!  This one also holds the college textbooks that I have managed to not lose, Unabridged Dictionaries, various versions of the Bible, and other sundry texts.

Anyhow, on the bottom shelf is an old bust that one of my friends made of me in one of the many pottery classes I took.  I keep it as a vanity, a small sin of Pride and it amuses me for some reason.  I do not know the exact year or date that it was made, I suspect it must be from the mid-nineties as that would be the time period I was at the particular school of higher learning where I know it was made.  The class assignment was to pair up and make portraits of each other from clay.  My guess is that this is the artists rendition of my then nineteenish year-old visage.

I think that perhaps this should be another campaign plank;  as part of the official Make America Pate Again movement busts, statues and portraits of all high office holders, notable campaign volunteers and others worthy of such shall be constructed and displayed, very probably near Bronze Elk Statues as space allows.  This will keep artisans, sculptors and painters busy fixing shit and will be good for the economy and the public will benefit from the many beautiful sculptures that will adorn the Parks, Avenues and Governmental buildings.

K_Dubb, Attend:  Hold my beer!

This probably a mistake, but I ask everyone to avert their eyes except The One who should know who she is:

 

Dear God, I hope I do not regret this!

Hahaha!

I no longer have hippie hair or a beard.  I do sport some Elvis-esque chops that are a bit more pointy than the chops I sported then.  I note that I was a pipe-smoker back then, I preferred wooden ones with a meerschaum insert in the bowl.

So there is text around the edge that reads:  "caress the cactus:  what shall be MIGHT be......."  Which was an inside joke about a plate that I made for a certain lady I was in pursuit of at the time;  it had a coyote howling at a full moon and the edge was decorated with cactii.  I delivered this to the young lass on her birthday, I wonder if she still has it?  I don't even remember her name, but she was very pretty:  the face I can still see in my mind.  Very probably her name was a variation on the "Rose," I guess I have a weird thing about the Rosannas, Rosilands, Roseys &c.  How delicious.

Thank you in advance!  It is an honor to serve.

pate/K_Dubb 2020
"We are going to fix this shit"

Casting no aspersions.....but
1) Pride is the biggest sin. Some would say Original even.
2) Keep the books. The electronic and etc are subject to "review and revision," as Congress does with their Statements "for the record."   

3) No other comment, except unless under contract with a Russian Oligarch and sold to a football team as a 12 year old- ponytails, man-buns, and such should be a "no go."

pate

Quote from: albrecht on August 21, 2020, 10:00:58 PM
Casting no aspersions.....but
1) Pride is the biggest sin. Some would say Original even.
2) Keep the books. The electronic and etc are subject to "review and revision," as Congress does with their Statements "for the record."   

3) No other comment, except unless under contract with a Russian Oligarch and sold to a football team as a 12 year old- ponytails, man-buns, and such should be a "no go."

The hair has been cut, in fact by the next visit to Europe to see my smokin' hot German girlfriend I had a shaved head, I believe 1996ish?  So, long hippie hair twice in my life:  from 16-20yrs and then again after I got out of the Army in 2014-2019 at Thanksgiving.  The post Army thing was not an act of Rebellion, it was more I did not want to pay a barber to cut my hair every other week.

I cut my own hair now, it looks really dumb but I am old and don't give a crap, the ladies don't seem to take offense at it so it's cool, I guess.

pate/K_Dubb 2020
"We are going to fix this shit"

K_Dubb

Quote from: pate on August 21, 2020, 09:47:57 PM
Two hundred fifteen, Saturday (FSS Three Day Weekend, FFS)"PLANK, DON'T RUN" : "JEWELED ALIEN" : "TRIUMVIRATE ARCH" : "METHUSULA PROGENY"

I was inspecting one of my bookcases today, the one that holds the various books of Languages I am somewhat proficient in and others that I wish to study at some point;  Latin you have been warned fairly!  This one also holds the college textbooks that I have managed to not lose, Unabridged Dictionaries, various versions of the Bible, and other sundry texts.

Anyhow, on the bottom shelf is an old bust that one of my friends made of me in one of the many pottery classes I took.  I keep it as a vanity, a small sin of Pride and it amuses me for some reason.  I do not know the exact year or date that it was made, I suspect it must be from the mid-nineties as that would be the time period I was at the particular school of higher learning where I know it was made.  The class assignment was to pair up and make portraits of each other from clay.  My guess is that this is the artists rendition of my then nineteenish year-old visage.

I think that perhaps this should be another campaign plank;  as part of the official Make America Pate Again movement busts, statues and portraits of all high office holders, notable campaign volunteers and others worthy of such shall be constructed and displayed, very probably near Bronze Elk Statues as space allows.  This will keep artisans, sculptors and painters busy fixing shit and will be good for the economy and the public will benefit from the many beautiful sculptures that will adorn the Parks, Avenues and Governmental buildings.

K_Dubb, Attend:  Hold my beer!

This probably a mistake, but I ask everyone to avert their eyes except The One who should know who she is:

[attachment=1,msg1414425]

Dear God, I hope I do not regret this!

Hahaha!

I no longer have hippie hair or a beard.  I do sport some Elvis-esque chops that are a bit more pointy than the chops I sported then.  I note that I was a pipe-smoker back then, I preferred wooden ones with a meerschaum insert in the bowl.

So there is text around the edge that reads:  "caress the cactus:  what shall be MIGHT be......."  Which was an inside joke about a plate that I made for a certain lady I was in pursuit of at the time;  it had a coyote howling at a full moon and the edge was decorated with cactii.  I delivered this to the young lass on her birthday, I wonder if she still has it?  I don't even remember her name, but she was very pretty:  the face I can still see in my mind.  Very probably her name was a variation on the "Rose," I guess I have a weird thing about the Rosannas, Rosilands, Roseys &c.  How delicious.

Thank you in advance!  It is an honor to serve.

pate/K_Dubb 2020
"We are going to fix this shit"


^^^ There you go,Roz; he's basically me except rather more handsome, dutiful, and accomplished, and he actually likes women.

K_Dubb

Quote from: albrecht on August 21, 2020, 10:00:58 PM
3) No other comment, except unless under contract with a Russian Oligarch and sold to a football team as a 12 year old- ponytails, man-buns, and such should be a "no go."

NO! Long hair is sexy as fuck, as I have elsewhere rhapsodized at length.  A mark of artists, musicians, and poets in western culture for hundreds of years, along with the open collar and lounging en deshabille.  Mine is gloriously wavy when it gets long, takes on a copperish hue in the sun (there are a few redheads in the family) and falls in perfect ringlets.  I did wear it in a bun before everyone started doing it and it became trite.  Now spiky hair is out so that is what I do.

albrecht

Quote from: K_Dubb on August 22, 2020, 10:03:26 AM
NO! Long hair is sexy as fuck, as I have elsewhere rhapsodized at length.  A mark of artists, musicians, and poets in western culture for hundreds of years, along with the open collar and lounging en deshabille.  Mine is gloriously wavy when it gets long, takes on a copperish hue in the sun (there are a few redheads in the family) and falls in perfect ringlets.  I did wear it in a bun before everyone started doing it and it became trite.  Now spiky hair is out so that is what I do.
Can we agree rattails are bad? As are white people culturally appropriated matted, nasty hair in pseudo dreadlocks? 

"a person can only use quantum mechanics to calculate how to calibrate his or her beliefs about what he or she will measure in an experiment. “Measurement outcomes must be regarded as personal to the agent who makes the measurement,” says Ruediger Schack of Royal Holloway, University of London"

"The trouble is that each interpretation is equally goodâ€"or badâ€"at predicting the outcome of quantum tests, so choosing between them comes down to taste. “No one knows what the solution is,” Steinberg says. “We don’t even know if the list of potential solutions we have is exhaustive.”" 

One notes the hilarity of the summation, using binary logic with value judgements! And then admitting the whole situation is essentially a failure. Why write the article?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/this-twist-on-schroedingers-cat-paradox-has-major-implications-for-quantum-theory/

K_Dubb

Quote from: albrecht on August 22, 2020, 10:19:48 AM
Can we agree rattails are bad? As are white people culturally appropriated matted, nasty hair in pseudo dreadlocks? 

"a person can only use quantum mechanics to calculate how to calibrate his or her beliefs about what he or she will measure in an experiment. “Measurement outcomes must be regarded as personal to the agent who makes the measurement,” says Ruediger Schack of Royal Holloway, University of London"

"The trouble is that each interpretation is equally goodâ€"or badâ€"at predicting the outcome of quantum tests, so choosing between them comes down to taste. “No one knows what the solution is,” Steinberg says. “We don’t even know if the list of potential solutions we have is exhaustive.”" 

One notes the hilarity of the summation, using binary logic with value judgements! And then admitting the whole situation is essentially a failure. Why write the article?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/this-twist-on-schroedingers-cat-paradox-has-major-implications-for-quantum-theory/

No there is no such thing as an objectively bad hairstyle, only poor execution and failure to commit fully to a look, which has its roots in a fundamental lack of self-confidence which is always ugly.  I could rock a eurotrash rat-tail but it would involve at minimum a wholesale replacement of my faded black denim with shredded and acid-washed, not a thing to be taken lightly, not to mention white sneakers of which I do not own a single pair.

At its heart this is of course a clash between Modernism and the new Authenticism.

pate

Quote from: albrecht on August 22, 2020, 10:19:48 AM
Can we agree rattails are bad? As are white people culturally appropriated matted, nasty hair in pseudo dreadlocks? 

"a person can only use quantum mechanics to calculate how to calibrate his or her beliefs about what he or she will measure in an experiment. “Measurement outcomes must be regarded as personal to the agent who makes the measurement,” says Ruediger Schack of Royal Holloway, University of London"

"The trouble is that each interpretation is equally goodâ€"or badâ€"at predicting the outcome of quantum tests, so choosing between them comes down to taste. “No one knows what the solution is,” Steinberg says. “We don’t even know if the list of potential solutions we have is exhaustive.”" 

One notes the hilarity of the summation, using binary logic with value judgements! And then admitting the whole situation is essentially a failure. Why write the article?

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/this-twist-on-schroedingers-cat-paradox-has-major-implications-for-quantum-theory/

In the original thought experiment the cat is alive/dead until observed;  Douglas Adams, if I recall correctly, in either the Dirk Gently's Holistic Detective Agency books or in the Hitchhiker's Guide series threw out a third possibility that always amused me:  the cat is simultaneously there/not-there at all as well.  Which highlights your point of the binary logic in this particular thought experiment;  the cat is assumed to only be existent in one of two states alive/dead or +/- if you will (or -/+ depending on if the observer likes cats or not).

I like Adams's thought, it brought a 2-dimensionality into it.  Whereas before the cat only was a point on the x-axis {-x, x} or even {-x, f(0)=Ø, x} -> if one considers the cat "not being there at all" to be the empty set, or an asymptote.  The presence of the cat's actual presence can also be expressed as a value on the y-axis, while its actual state alive/dead can be expressed on the x-axis.  I believe that would lead you to the i number land of imaginary numbers, or i²=-1;  because if the cat is "not there physically" is it somewhere else and wherever that may be is the cat alive or dead?

Or did it simply cease to exist?  Now that I have destroyed the failed binary logic that is perhaps the "albatross" of this thought experiment by allowing it to progress into two dimensional space, how about I get all "next level" and introduce the third possible out come which will have to be the z-axis:  When you open the box, the cat is now a dog that is either alive or dead!

Now you have to figure out if God did a Folger's replacement by secretly substituting a Dog for the expected Cat, whether the Cat (wherever it is) is alive or dead and if the surprised Dog is alive and wagging his tail in delight, or dead in a box that would probably be suitable to bury the dead Dog in.  Or was Cat transmuted into Dog?

I will stop this Thought Experiment right here, as the dim{4, 5, 6 ... ∞} cause mind blowage;  the subsequent dim{-∞ ... -4, -3, -2, -1, 0} set implied by binary logic is also a bit mind blowing.



I think this will make a nice official Thought Experiment for the Make America Pate Again initiative.  I haven't the slightest clue what to call it though, and am open to suggestions.

Thank you in advance!  It is an honor to serve.

pate/K_Dubb 2020
"We are going to fix this shit"

K_Dubb

OK this is juicy.  Albrecht's Modernism, in search for a universal truth, wishes to uphold "men have short hair" as a universal principle which goes back at least to the Roundheads where it was a decidedly unflattering bob, not today's clipper cuts which, to them, would have looked like a delousing effort.  I would for sure have been a Cavalier.

As a disciple of Authenticism, having relegated Post-Modernism to its proper place as a critique, I maintain that a man can have whatever hairstyle he wishes as long as it is firmly rooted in a historical time and place and, most importantly, consonant with his personal style and perspective.  I could wear a rat-tail, being vaguely eurotrash, but, rather than the thoughtless appropriation of a trend as it was back then it would be a knowing rat-tail, cultivating a personal aesthetic that seeks to recall the heady days of emancipation from Communism, the victory of the West, all-night parties on river barges, abundant cocaine and ecstasy and discotheques, etc.

Authenticism demands that we consider where people are coming from before applying a universal standard, much like how a loaf of bread made of grain from a single farm dedicated primarily to raising draft horses and giving them something to do (we have one of those) is infinitely more delicious with that knowledge, though as a specimen of bread it may be unremarkable.  When you consider the background of my hypothetical rat-tail, it doesn't seem so bad, does it?

pate

Quote from: K_Dubb on August 22, 2020, 11:27:18 AM
OK this is juicy.  Albrecht's Modernism, in search for a universal truth, wishes to uphold "men have short hair" as a universal principle which goes back at least to the Roundheads where it was a decidedly unflattering bob, not today's clipper cuts which, to them, would have looked like a delousing effort.  I would for sure have been a Cavalier.

As a disciple of Authenticism, having relegated Post-Modernism to its proper place as a critique, I maintain that a man can have whatever hairstyle he wishes as long as it is firmly rooted in a historical time and place and consonant with his personal style and perspective.  I could wear a rat-tail, being vaguely eurotrash, but, rather than the thoughtless appropriation of a trend as it was back then it would be a knowing rat-tail, cultivating a personal aesthetic that seeks to recall the heady days of emancipation from Communism, the victory of the West, all-night parties on river barges, abundant cocaine and ecstasy and discotheques, etc.

This thought pleases me, now the observed cats and/or dogs residing in the unopened box may be of long or short haired breeds and their sexes are also indeterminate until observed to determine a state of being.  I think that puts us firmly in dim>{7} territory at minimum, you can put a cat and dog into the box, probably mildly sedated unless you want to omit the Poison released by Radioactive decay and simply test the physical bounds of Nature.

Are the dog and cat friendly with each other when outside of the box?  Will one or the other really not enjoy being in the box with the lid closed and freak out, perhaps harming or killing the other?  Will one or the other have "vanished" when the box is opened for the decoherent implosion that final observation will cause?

I think as you so elegantly point out, K_Dubb;  this is probably best tested and discussed during an all-night party on a river barge, abundant cocaine and ecstasy and discotheques, etc.

I believe it will fall under the (I) Party's purview.



Thank you in advance!  It is an honor to serve.

pate/K_Dubb 2020
"We are going to fix this shit"

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