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Started by Jackstar, October 12, 2018, 09:04:15 AM

DanTSX

It’s time to legalize it frens.


Jackstar

Arguably, it was never legal for it to be criminalized in the first place.

Dr. MD MD

I’m trying something called, I shit you not, Justin Trudeau Kush. And while he may be a dork he did legalize it in Canada and so, I suppose, someone created a cross and named it after him. It’s actually quite nice. Nice taste and very present buzz to it without being so overpowering that all you can do is eat or sleep. Nice dankness to it that reminds me a lot of San Fernando Valley Kush. I wouldn’t be surprised if that were one of it’s parents. Recommend! :)


Dr. MD MD

Quote from: Jackstar on November 04, 2019, 07:45:53 PM
kys degenerate

It’s aceptable because I’m denoting possession, i.e.  it’s parents, grammar Nazi. ::)

Jackstar

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on November 04, 2019, 07:51:48 PM
I’m denoting possession, i.e.  it’s parents, grammar Nazi. ::)




aldousburbank

Quote from: Dr. MD MD on November 04, 2019, 07:27:52 PM
I’m trying something called, I shit you not, Justin Trudeau Kush. And while he may be a dork he did legalize it in Canada and so, I suppose, someone created a cross and named it after him. It’s actually quite nice. Nice taste and very present buzz to it without being so overpowering that all you can do is eat or sleep. Nice dankness to it that reminds me a lot of San Fernando Valley Kush. I wouldn’t be surprised if that were one of it’s parents. Recommend! :)

I believe that strain is a cross between Canadian Thundersnatch and Cuban Dicktater

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: aldousburbank on November 13, 2019, 01:09:46 PM
I believe that strain is a cross between Canadian Thundersnatch and Cuban Dicktater


Jackstar

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tomangell/2019/11/16/vote-to-federally-legalize-marijuana-planned-in-congress/#104a2e5e201b

QuoteA key congressional committee plans to hold a historic vote on a bill to end the federal prohibition of marijuana next week, two sources with knowledge of the soon-to-be-announced action said.

The legislation, sponsored by House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler (D-NY), [...] A Senate companion is being led by Sen. Kamala Harris (D-CA), a 2020 presidential candidate, though it has not yet been scheduled for action in the GOP-controlled chamber.


Obvious desperation is obvious.

aldousburbank

The stoneder you go, the taxer you get.

The stronger the joint, the higher the tax? Report weighs California marijuana tax change


https://www.sacbee.com/news/california/california-weed/article238508593.html#storylink=cpy


Hog

For the last Gabcast, I bought a gram of Shatter, which is basically a butane extraction with triple distillation that results in a hard ctrustal like solid substance that when cold in temperature would shatter like glass when manipulated, but when handled the heat from your hands will make teh substance putty like and malleable.

My preferred method is to heat up the tip of a butter knife and using a garbage bag tie drop a very small amount on teh hot blade whilst using a disassembled pen as a hooter.

2 "hotknives" led to panic attack'like symptoms for the first few minutes, but after that it mellowed out nicely. Simply reading the Chatbox during teh Gabcast was difficult, let alone responding via type written messaging.

The gram was CAN$20 and would last me for quite some time. I suggest that for any first time users to stick with a single small "blade".  You can always have another in a few minutes.  Such a great bang for buck THC product.  To gauge my THC tolerance, I hadnt smoked for many years, then dabbled a little with some actual bud in a small brass pipe for the last few months. Your results may vary, from "Shit, I'm very stoned" to "Shit, that hog guy from Bellgab.com is very much a lightweight.

Video: This guy is using hotknives for smoking buds, which IMO is just stoopid.  Hash, or oil, but never buds.  Wayyy too harsh.  I use a small butane torch rather than the stove.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lv24h6YHLno


peace
Hog


Jackstar

Quote from: Hog on February 14, 2020, 10:59:35 AM
I bought a gram of Shatter

Avoid shatter. The butane is not your friend. Look for cake batter or honey oil or basically any wax that is as pure as feasible, given price point considerations.

Carbon dioxide extraction is a preferred method. The butane is not your friend.

https://youtu.be/TPQhamiRH-Y


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- New Malawi Killer (P3): Granddaughter of the old killer mother, competes with its grandmother in terms of resin production and potency. Like its 3rd generation sisters, the new Killer Malawi has a more tamed compact structure, with wider leaf and a shorter flowering time of 11-12 weeks. Yield and terpene profile are very similar to the old Malawi killer. This is the line where you can look for the most stable and tamed Malawis regarding structure, size and flowering time, keeping the extreme potency that made famous this strain.

- Fruity Malawi (P3): Sister of the New Malawi Killer, it has a very similar expression in terms of size, flowering time and structure, but stand out for its more interesting aromas of mature mandarine, sweet carrot and flowers. This is the line where you can look for the Malawis with better taste and more refined terpene profiles. The potency and yield are still very high.

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Hog

Quote from: Jackstar on February 14, 2020, 07:59:45 PM
Avoid shatter. The butane is not your friend. Look for cake batter or honey oil or basically any wax that is as pure as feasible, given price point considerations.

Carbon dioxide extraction is a preferred method. The butane is not your friend.
When you talk about Honey oil are you describing the goo that comes out of the buds when you squeeze them with heated plates of a press?

I just bought some "sauce" 1 gram for $25.  My friend makes it by using a press that has plates on it that hold a certain temp, he throws bud in the press, pumps up the hydraulics and this runny stuff comes out and when its cooled, it is VERY sticky.

peace
Hog

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aldousburbank

 A woman took 550 times the usual dose of LSD, with surprisingly positive consequences

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/02/27/health/lsd-overdoses-case-studies-wellness/index.html

Gd5150

Quote from: aldousburbank on February 27, 2020, 11:41:24 AM
A woman took 550 times the usual dose of LSD, with surprisingly positive consequences

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/02/27/health/lsd-overdoses-case-studies-wellness/index.html

“ The woman blacked out and vomited frequently for the next 12 hours but reported feeling "pleasantly high" for the 12 hours after that -- still vomiting, but less often.”

Sounds like the average listen to Noorysan.

Jackstar

Quote from: Hog on February 27, 2020, 11:02:20 AM
When you talk about Honey oil are you describing the goo that comes out of the buds when you squeeze them with heated plates of a press?

Could be. There's not really a standardized list of terms. Just--stay away from the butane. It is of no worthy benefit or advantage to an end user such as yourself.

I had some stuff once that had been extracted with ether as the solvent. It was pretty fuckin' rad, I'm not gonna lie. Sadly I never came across it again. I was told that pressurizing the ether and keeping it from exploding was a significant technical challenge, so I wouldn't expect to find it on a shelf any time soon. And it was pretty harsh on my airways--but not nearly so bad as butane. No matter the solvent used, there will be some leftover in the product without truly heroic filtering efforts, which few processors are going to make, especially if they're using cheap shit like industrial butane in the first place.


Hog

Quote from: Jackstar on February 27, 2020, 12:27:00 PM
Could be. There's not really a standardized list of terms. Just--stay away from the butane. It is of no worthy benefit or advantage to an end user such as yourself.

I had some stuff once that had been extracted with ether as the solvent. It was pretty fuckin' rad, I'm not gonna lie. Sadly I never came across it again. I was told that pressurizing the ether and keeping it from exploding was a significant technical challenge, so I wouldn't expect to find it on a shelf any time soon. And it was pretty harsh on my airways--but not nearly so bad as butane. No matter the solvent used, there will be some leftover in the product without truly heroic filtering efforts, which few processors are going to make, especially if they're using cheap shit like industrial butane in the first place.
I'm finding all of these "concentrated" THC products very very harsh.  The same feeling you get if you smoke a bowl of "trichromes" or the crystals that are knocked off of buds after you put them into the bud buster.  The inhale is always fine, but the exhale feels like daggers, and hack and cough.

Are we sure it's the butane or simply the high concentrations of cannabinoids?  I dunno, but your story makes sense.

It's scary when you take a few various butane examples and pour them onto acetate sheets or clean glass.  The butane boils off leaving the non-butane crap visible to the naked eye.

Ether, that's what the hardcore cocaine smokers use to make freebase.  What's the black comedians name that burned his face badly with a flashback from some still wet ether freebased cocaine?  I've got Rodney Dangerfield stuck in my brain.

peace
Hog

Jackstar

Quote from: Hog on February 27, 2020, 01:17:02 PM
I'm finding all of these "concentrated" THC products very very harsh.  The same feeling you get if you smoke a bowl of "trichromes" or the crystals that are knocked off of buds after you put them into the bud buster.  The inhale is always fine, but the exhale feels like daggers, and hack and cough.

Are we sure it's the butane or simply the high concentrations of cannabinoids?  I dunno, but your story makes sense.

I'd say the major part is simply the inhalation of high temperature vapor and air. The purpose in vaporizing oil/wax is to deliver an extremely high load of cannabinoids all at once, thus obviating the need to smoke bowl after bowl of flower in order to get a heroic dose. Going that route on the regular is going to lead to the easily foreseeable consequences from scalded mucous membranes (as well as dramatically ramping up one's tolerance, which gets expensive fast). Note that weed has pain-relieving effects, and a good hit will simultaneously relieve the pain caused--but the tissue damage will still be happening regardless of whether the user feels it or not.

There is also a concern with wax/oil residue remaining in the lungs. The cilia are meant to move particles up and out, and the coughing helps with that, but inevitably, chronic inhalation of hot wax/oil is going to lead to build-up in the tissues, and the cilia get paralyzed with frequent blasts of THC/CBD. This is not a fully harmless consequence.

That said, it's also not that big a deal, assuming the user is not whiffing seven-gram-dabs twelve times a day. Responsible use is, in general, easily repairable by the body. Irresponsible long-term abuse will lead to lung scarring. The ways around this are, to take a break for at least a month after about three months of daily use, and to be cautious about any other contaminants one might be inhaling.

I've met people who swear by the efficacy of the butane for extraction. It is cheap, reliable, relatively easy to handle, and leaves enough butane behind that vaping it will enhance and modify the high. You know, like huffing glue. Sure, inhale lighter fluid--what could go wrong? With me, I simply never liked the taste, so after a few weeks of shatter use and study, I ended up banning it from my experience. No regrets. In Seattle, I've seen the popularity and availability of butane extracted products drop sharply over the last few years, as it is really not that much harder to use other methods--assuming one isn't pouring butane over one's black market weed in the trunk of a car parked in a Wal-Mart. Unlicenced producers are happy to use anything that can be procured discreetly. And cigarette smokers who have been using butane lighters to spark up twenty times a day tend to have a real taste for butane. I've met a few shatter fiends--not many now that I've given up cigarettes--and it's like they're addicted to Bic lighters or something. Crazy!


Quote from: Hog on February 27, 2020, 01:17:02 PM
It's scary when you take a few various butane examples and pour them onto acetate sheets or clean glass.  The butane boils off leaving the non-butane crap visible to the naked eye.

Pure butane would be bad enough. But the butane that is used is typically not acquired in cans that say "100% butane, lab-tested". It's typically sourced from industrial supply. It's a roll of loaded dice as to what is actually in there, it could be 80% butane and the rest "other petrochemical by-products." I'm getting the nightsweats right now, just thinking about it.


Something I think you should do a little research on, is what's sometimes called "low-temp dabbing." There's an optimum temperature range at which the cannabinoids boil off into inhalable vapor, and it's much lower than what people tend to use, because managing the temperature is a real hassle without specific gear. Also--and this is key--when the substance is put onto the hot vaper, the hot vaper cools off, and this interferes with the smooth release of the cannabinoid compounds. There's at least dozens or maybe hundreds of different cannabinoid and terpene compounds in any sample of weed, and they all have slightly different characteristics. Some are fragile and will simply burn off and become inert if the temp is too high, and others only completely transition when at a ten or twenty degree temperature range, and need to stay within that range for perhaps as long as five or ten seconds in order to be fully consumed.

So, it's a mess, and one way to deal with that is to have an electronically controlled heating element attached to your nail or bowl or whatever, and then to place a carburetor cap on top of it so as to create a heat chamber at the appropriate temp. This makes a huge difference to the experience, as the temperature of the inhalation will be much lower, and more of the good stuff will be available as vapor. Done right, one can even still taste the subtle differences from the terpenes, which is a highly desirable outcome.


Quote from: Hog on February 27, 2020, 01:17:02 PM
Ether, that's what the hardcore cocaine smokers use to make freebase.  What's the black comedians name that burned his face badly with a flashback from some still wet ether freebased cocaine?  I've got Rodney Dangerfield stuck in my brain.

I'm gonna assume that you're referring to Richard Pryor here, but let's be honest; it could be a few other names.

aldousburbank

Back in my day we smoked our government issue mexican weed in a crushed coke can pipe and we liked it. Get off my lawn!

Dr. MD MD

Quote from: aldousburbank on February 27, 2020, 02:09:22 PM
Back in my day we smoked our government issue mexican weed in a crushed coke can pipe and we liked it. Get off my lawn!

Not until you let me try that pipe.  :P


Quote from: aldousburbank on February 27, 2020, 11:41:24 AM
A woman took 550 times the usual dose of LSD, with surprisingly positive consequences

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/02/27/health/lsd-overdoses-case-studies-wellness/index.html

More than a few heads have died thinking that they can fly, but there's only one reported death from overdose of LSD.  The test was to give a bucket full to an elephant.  I don't know what the actually physiological reaction was, if it expired due to toxicity at that extreme dosage, or if the poor thing had a heat attack from freaking out.

Quote from: aldousburbank on February 27, 2020, 02:09:22 PM
Back in my day we smoked our government issue mexican weed in a crushed coke can pipe and we liked it. Get off my lawn!

I use to make pipes out of second hand toilet paper rolls.  Some are thicker and stronger than others, but they all work.  With a small blade, cut a hole about the diameter of a trim thumbnail, make a shallow bowl out of sandwich foil, adhere masking tape to secure the edges of the foil, and to cover the hole at that end of the roll.  Poke a tight group of fine holes in the center of the bottom of the bowl with a pin, and you're set.

In a pinch, take a small square of foil, roll it with a short library pencil, and take the end of the pencil to bend the tube up at the end to fashion a bowl.  Adjust the angle of the bend, so as to restrict the ash, yet permit good draw.

These are the most efficient, economical tools toking.  Don't pack them too, tight, or too full, but put a big enough spit wad sized pinch, just snug enough to keep from being sucked through the small draw hole at the end of the bowl section, good for from about three to five hits, works best.  It's easy to get the hang of it.
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Jackstar

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