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Just a little diatribe on what all those rah-rah Ukranian cheerleaders are supporting.

Quote from: pate on November 09, 2022, 07:23:57 PMReports on Voting Machines Malfunctioning:

Arizona: Central Christian Voting Machines in Mesa, Arizona Are All Broken, "No Machines Are Working"

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Voters told voting machines aren't working in Maricopa County AZ

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Voting machine malfunction forces Mercer County to tally paper ballots

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PA's Luzerne County Polls Open Until 10 PM Because Machines Ran Out of Paper

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Fabulous Tabulator Selector Machines

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Reported Midterm election problems

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I believe the above captures most of what I noticed yesterday evening and this morning.  Certainly that list isn't exhaustive on incidents around the country.  Heck, there might even be repeats in there:  for instance;  Mesa, AZ might very well be in Maricopa County.

There was also a Bomb Threat in NYC that shut down a polling location:

NYC Polling Station Temporarily Shut Down Due To Pipe Bomb Threat

Madison Avenue sounds posh;  could be a slum for all I know:  whichever the case some voters were intimidated and suppressed from the sound of it...

-p

The world is watching.


Americans are shameless.

Z-Library went under.

Pirate e-book site goes dark, boarded by the feds

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 07, 2022, 12:47:35 PMI don't have an issue with those with immunity suppressing conditions not having the vaccine, the ones who don't should just all live together on an island and breath on each other in mutual appreciation at how 'independent' they are. Fuck em.

When most healthy people have little more than a bad cold from SARS-CoV-2. Cui bono?

Quote from: SredniVashtar on November 08, 2022, 08:08:05 AMI enjoyed this so much I'm not even going to point out the spelling mistakes or use of the grocer's apostrophe, but see me in my office for a private spanking and we'll say no more about it.

However, I honestly don't see how you regard the two parties as having diametrically opposing views - they look more or less the same to me, the differences are mostly top-dressing. Most American politicians are far wealthier than their equivalents in the UK, even the low-ranking ones, and their views are consistent with very well-off people who don't want to rock the boat. The usual rabble go on about the 'radical left' but in reality it's a handful of very mild-mannered social democrats they are talking about, who don't want to change the system at all, merely leave it in place and smooth off a few of the rougher edges.

Americans must be the most mentally lazy, incorrigibly incurious bunch of cunts on the planet. Most of them stopped learning anything new the moment they left school. Political debate is now just a series of grunts: 'trans-gender', 'CRT', 'radical left' etc, and they rely on the average gum-chewing, slack-jawed Yank, with what's left of its brain destroyed by television, to go along with the nonsense they spout.

The people who were responsible for Brexit now put on this weary face when you bring up the subject, as though it's old news now and nobody wants to talk about it any more, never mind the fact that they have totally fucked everything up for at least a generation. That's right, opt out of the largest trading bloc in the world without a clue what you are going to put in its place, what a marvellous idea. But at least we've got blue passports now and we have 'taken back control' whatever the fuck that even meant.

My energy bill went up 50% this month, it's fucking unbelievable, and those transatlantic pig-pukes just keep going on about the price of gas, which is measly compared to the UK anyway. What a bunch of whiney gobshites!

All too sad and true.

Quote from: Hog on November 08, 2022, 07:30:20 PMThey're all under Heather Wade of the memberlist.

peace
hog

Granted; only the admin can make that change, amirite?

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 07, 2022, 11:34:47 PMOkay, I've lived in the States just over six years, through two general elections and a mid term, this will be the second.

The American system is based on money. Are you rich/influential? Yes? Then roll up, we'll get you lobbied. Congress (Especially the Senate)is pretty much a stagnant atrophied edifice that has no incentive to do anything for the people in general. It has been completely out of touch with the demograph of the country, unless you happen to be an octogenarian white millionaire. Just who does Chuck Grassley represent? Land? This is the thing, because each state has two Senators, California or Georgia or Florida or New York State have the same say as Wyoming, which has just over half a million people, fewer than the population of Sacramento. California has nearly 40 Million. Grassley's state Iowa just over 3 million. Yet all three have the same say irrespective of the actual votes cast for any party nationally, even if any piece of legislature doesn't directly effect that state. The big problem is US politicians are not compelled to relinquish their business interests when they take office, they can even game the markets and get no sanctions. Win win. They can (and do!) vote for legislation that will directly benefit them (and the billionaires) personally. Tax breaks for the very rich who could never spend what they already own? Absolutely. Free child care? Free health care at the point of need, bypassing the insurance companies who (and I know this is a shock) are in it for profit not health care. Oh no, that's 'socialism'. Someone explain to me why that isn't perverse.
 
And there's the other bind, only two parties with (today) diametrically opposing views save for a very few who will compromise, but again in the current climate, unless the Republicans bow to the orange Jesus they're ostracised or worse. Neither party as they stand will represent the population, only their own tribe. It needs at least another one maybe two more parties that drop in the middle.

 The average education level of America is low compared with other industrialised countries. Sure, there are some truly brilliant people, but the median nationally isn't high.
And it plays to the advantage of certain politicians, because an uneducated electorate is easy to manipulate, easy to convince. Certain candidates have taken it to a new level and advocated the banning of books in schools, because they're so insecure of their own value it scares them that a kid might read different opinions and arrive at their own rather than that of the bigot dictating what they read. And certain teachers in certain states are leaving, so the self fulfilling prophecy might realise sooner rather than later.

Such as the I think two dozen plus 'props' on the bill for this years election here. They're referendums. Our letterbox has been crammed with the mailing crap.

And if you don't think lying matters; let me remind you about what happened in 2016 in the UK. Boris Johnson, Micheal Gove, Nigel Farage and others pushed the myth that if the UK pulled out of the EU, then fluffy bunnies would skip in the meadows, fluffy clouds would rain liquid gold and Britain would gain respect throughout the world because they were free of the shackles of the EU..

We're in 2022, since then the UK is on it's FORTH PM, the mendacious Johnson long gone and still rich. But what of Brexit? Well, the economy is fucked, you think the inflation in the US is poor, it has a rate that right now the UK would dream of having. And NOT ONE politician that advocated Brexit has even acknowledged that the issues that were predicted by the remainers (and came to pass) have anything to do with Brexit! Delusion isn't even close.

There's a real possibility that the UK will tank it's currency, I don't mean drop to parity with the dollar but really tank. And it could have been avoided, but the liars won. It's what they wanted but they're too cowardly to own it. They essentially forced the deportation of EU citizens who until Brexit had freedom of movement to work and live..Now they've gone, the hospitality industry has no staff to make the beds in hotels, Fruit growers have no-one to help with the harvest. Farmers cannot sell their stock anyway because the paperwork they didn't need in the EU they now do, and so don't have the freedom of transit, miles and miles of trucks at the ports as they wait for custom clearance, supermarket shelves not close to how they were when I left the UK..And it will only get worse. All because of a lie.

You're not suggesting the USA is actually an oligopoly, are you? That sounds very suspect. How do we know you're not part of some fifth column?

What other countries have midterm elections?

What other countries would want a political system like the USA?

Should foreign countries actually monitor the US midterm elections?


(All the above quaestiones rhetoricae)

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 07, 2022, 12:47:35 PMI don't have an issue with those with immunity suppressing conditions not having the vaccine, the ones who don't should just all live together on an island and breath on each other in mutual appreciation at how 'independent' they are. Fuck em.

You poor deluded pharma backer. One day you might just realize how badly you've been conned.


* Breath vs breathe - why is there such confruitery over these two simple words?

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 07, 2022, 09:09:25 AMThe pretzel maga knot the first guy ties himself into is glorious!!

  

Americans luv them hot button issues.

But listen to an expert for shuck sakes.

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Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 03, 2022, 09:01:59 PMNever heard of him. But even a stopped clock is correct twice a day even if cow shit has stopped it. But interestingly the most Nazi sympathetic candidates are on the right..

You have to get out more, my boy. That silo you are living in must be stifling.

QuoteBut interestingly the most Nazi sympathetic candidates are on the right in Ukraine ...

Uncle Sam is planning a major escalation in proposing a new but not so improved Coalition of the Willing. Coming down to the crunch and where are the BG cheerleaders? Get out your pom poms and war regalia, kids. We are marching over a cliff.

Quote from: K_Dubb on October 30, 2022, 10:37:48 AMIt's not all I got; it's all I need, you pedo-defender 🚩 get 'em boys

Only defending free speech.

Quote from: pate on November 01, 2022, 10:14:04 PMApparently they were conquered quite effectively by the Anglish, Scotland seems weak...

-p

Blatherskite. Any true kilted Scotsman, including Sean Connery if he were around to hoist his caber in the air, would deign to differ.

Here is an interesting take from Quora:

QuoteWhy did England take over Scotland?

It didn't. Technically, Scotland took over England, since the King of Scots inherited the English throne, since the union of the kingdoms was his idea (although not put into practice until a century later), and since it was largely militant Scots Protestants who later wanted to get rid of the Stuart dynasty for being too friendly to Catholics. But England became more powerful than Scotland, both because it has a much larger population, and because at the end of the 17th C the Scottish government crippled itself financially with a disastrously unwise investment in a colony in central America, which failed.

Scotland wasn't Conquered, Ceded to, or Occupied by England

Quote from: Yorkshire pud on November 01, 2022, 08:05:28 PMYou haven't met many/any though have you? I can reel off half a dozen friends that would scare the crap out of you; the scary thing? They'd smile as they mind fucked you.

ROTFL I don't doubt your word for a moment.

Quote from: pate on November 01, 2022, 02:39:50 PMAs a hypothetical scenario, and using the following article as reference:

A Real Plebiscite Election, or Fight the SNP

Should (through international meddling by the SeekRut Service Agents of the PFDRp, for instance) the particular MAPA goal of Scottish Independence (and subsequent annexation to the United States) by popular acclaim be achieved:  Would the Anglish attempt to reclaim their wayward colony by force or farce?

I axe only for a fiend and perhaps fiendish raisons des êtres...

Before any cries of "Off-Topic SPAM-ity SPAM" are raised, I shall at the end of this posting self-report.

-p

/self-reported:  could be construed as off-topic and/or Digital Rape

Scotland couldn't be conquered by the Romans. They even had to build a bloody wall to keep the bastards out in. The Americans would be better off trying to chuzzle some place like Greenland away from the Danes ... Maybe cross that one off the list too.

Quote from: WOTR on November 01, 2022, 01:17:52 AMSure. Why not? The Ukraine might be a recent example. The Ukrainians should absolutely declare war. And some support should even be offered. Just not a blank cheque with no will to ever negotiate peace until a single twit of a politician (Zelensky) gives his permission. If we are footing the bill now and are expected to foot it for the next decade, then possibly we get a bit of a say to negotiate a possible peace. I suppose where we differ is the extent of risk that we see as reasonable, the amount of support that needs to be offered, the willingness to end the damn war and admitting that we may have played a tiny, itty bitty role in provoking what happened.

Another good example recently brought up here would be Iraq. Absolutely justified that the Iraqis declared war when their country was invaded. Too bad we didn't offer them military aid. 

We can cite the 1857 Indian mutiny. Pretty sure that was justified.

Reaching farther into the past, the American war of independence. Canada was dumb to not turn on the crown at the same time.

But here we are after having burned the white house down in the war of 1812 instead of telling Britain to get bent during the war of independence. This is a great song that recounts the war of 1812 without the usual propaganda and spin.*

*Apologies to our American posters. 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7jlFZhprU4

The Ukrainians would not even "declare war" on the Donbas without US/NATO backing, let alone Russia. A hand puppet like Zelensky has no real agency in the matter. The entire scenario is caused and will continue as a proxy war between the US and Russia.

Did Canada actually consider military aid to Iraq when they were invaded in 2003 by the US led coalition? At least Chretien had the good sense to stay out of that one.

Canada was created in great part by the United Empire Loyalists. They had every right and good sense to stay out of the Great American Experiment in Democracy.

It was the British Army that set fire to the White House and this was because the Americans offered no reparations for having rampaged scorched earth through Toronto.

No apologies, please. That would be too Canadian.

Quote from: Asuka Langley on October 31, 2022, 05:53:35 PMhttps://www.zerohedge.com/political/biden-lost-temper-zelensky-phone-call-show-little-more-gratitude

Days after the Pentagon announced that total US military aid given to Ukraine so far has topped $18.5 billion, new reporting has revealed President Joe Biden briefly lost his temper in a phone call with his Ukrainian counterpart Volodymyr Zelensky, after the latter kept pressing for more money and arms.

Joe Biden is antisemitic now

Fake Noose. Making Old Joe sound like a tough guy standing up to that punk from Kiev.

Quote from: malachi.martini on October 31, 2022, 03:14:58 PMPure blood checking in, did any Bellgab boomers leave us at the Speed of Science™?

The only sucker we know of here who loved getting jabbed is K_Blubb and he paid for it in spades. There may be a few others but they are likely too embarrassed to admit it now.

Quote from: K_Dubb on October 31, 2022, 01:41:28 PMThis is what a victim of Russian propaganda looks like, folks.  Hate your country.  Hate its democratically elected leadership.  Cheer for Russia as a necessary counterbalance on the world stage, Russia did nothing wrong, pootie is on our side, never mind that they invade their neighbors and started this thing.

Poor ass-backward pretzel-knotted goober 🙄

This is what a stooge for US/NATO/Ukraine propaganda looks like, fellas. Of course, CHINA is the inevitable counterbalance on the world stage. And along with that comes Russia, India, Brazil, South Africa, et al. You know, close to half the world's population. Never mind that the good old USA has invaded their neighbors and whovever they damn well pleased since ever. No one needs Putin to plainly put the facts on the table.


Your next essay should be on the high wire act of the Petrodollar. All wars are essentially based on economics.

Quote from: K_Dubb on October 31, 2022, 12:28:13 AMBecause this is the closest thing to the classic Just War of self-defense that most moral systems recognize that we are likely to see in our lifetimes, and it is good to help when we can.

Are you seriously thinking they should have just rolled over?  Who does that?

The ONLY sort of anti-war pacifist argument you can make here is that, by arming them and encouraging them, we are prolonging their suffering in the face of an inevitable defeat but that is fucking over man they are kicking ass 🥳 fuck Poo Tin

Quote from: K_Dubb on October 29, 2022, 01:51:09 PMScott Ritter is a pedo.

If that's all you've got in discrediting Scott Ritter you're not rolling out the propaganda very well. We all know the story, false charges and marginalization. Let us in on how he must be a paid Russisn disinformation agent. Do your job for Putin's sake!

Quotehttps://rumble.com/vwvbqe-globalist-jacques-attali-rredicted-in-2014-that-world-war-iii-would-start-w.html

Banned on YouTube and only an untranslated snippet left


For those who still believe in Freedom of Speech and Freedom of Access

Quotehttps://ugetube.com/watch/dr-pierre-gilbert-1995-speech-english-translation_Vgxe73usvFZ2o2n.html

Drink it in, baby!

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Quote from: albrecht on October 18, 2022, 03:48:24 PMI like that Mr. Dave Norway and expert guest still say "The Ukraine." Amen. Screw this whole "just Ukraine" thing, even if it is technically correct or desired by them. We're Americans and can do what we want. I still say Kiev and Odessa. Screw the new changes. If you think about it we have, the Brits also, have a long history of deciding to use names we are more comfortable with- screw the natives. It is Burma. Bombay. Nuremberg, and so on. Credit to Mr.Norway for holding to tradition.

You are aware no doubt of the political connotations of how one pronounces or spells such terms.

Quote from: K_Dubb on October 16, 2022, 10:43:29 AMLOL no I am not a fella but they seem like a fun group of folks

They have you groomed and waiting then.

Quote from: K_Dubb on October 13, 2022, 09:29:25 PMThis is just the "Ukraine is a fake country" argument which was settled when they fought back so heroically that first week.  Shamed the West into supporting them.  They want to align with Europe.  Nobody in Europe likes the Russian stink that smells like cabbage and doctor sausage and graft except Recent Russian immigrants, the Czechs even had a tourism campaign that invited people to look at a map and see that their country was really rather Central and not Eastern Europe at all!

Kissinger said that months ago, before it became clear Russia was getting desperate, retreating, mobilizing, I do not blame the Ukrainians for wanting to test how firm Russia's grip is on those parts they just annexed.

Not to get too personal but are you secretly one of the FELLAS?


So deeply offended by all that Russian stink.