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#6961
Politics / Re: President Donald J. Trump
October 13, 2018, 11:08:08 AM
No, it was not 'stupid' or 'sad', any more than it is when some championship team visits the White House or when Obummer's coterie of like celebrity "minds" was welcomed through time and again - it's equal parts lobbying and basic PR!

It has always happened, and it always will - the White House is not a walled isolation ward, not yet anyway...so why blame the Trump White House for putting the cameras on a positive interaction between the President and several significant figure representing the black population's interests nationally.

Did the lamestream media make it into a negative? Yes. That is their chosen endgame.

That's why 92% of the news coverage Trump receives is negative! They make it so.

Did they commensurately assault Obama's little lefty friends? Hell no!

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/33556933/ns/politics-white_house/t/obama-names-white-house-visitors/

Celebrities at the White House include Oprah Winfrey, actors Brad Pitt, George Clooney and Denzel Washington, and tennis star Serena Williams. Journalists include Paul Krugman, the New York Times columnist and Nobel Prize winner in economics.
Religious and civil rights figures Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson also visited.

What is soul-destroyingly sad is to see our functionally insane leftarded lamestream media attack Kanye West as a "race traitor" for not marching in lockstep to THEIR proscribed dogma.

And please note that they have been far too timid to assault aging NFL Hall of Famer Jim Brown who sat right there next to him!

COWARDS!

https://www.thenewamerican.com/culture/item/30320-kanye-west-latest-black-person-attacked-for-deviating-from-liberal-dogma

“Kanye West is what happens when negroes don’t read.”

That is how CNN commentator Bakari Sellers, who is black, responded to Kanye West’s meeting in the Oval Office this week with President Donald Trump. Sellers made his insulting remarks on the CNN Tonight program with host Don Lemon, who is also an African American, precipitating approving laughter from Lemon, and fellow commentator Tara Setmayer, who is also black.

Setmayer was particularly vicious in her insults of West because he dared to speak favorably of Trump, calling him “an attention whore like the president,” adding, “Black folks are about to trade Kanye West in the racial draft,” dismissing West as “the token Negro of the Trump Administration.”

There were even insinuations that West has mental problems, supposedly explaining his wearing a “Make America Great Again” cap at the White House.

While the term “negro,” which simply means “black” in Spanish, may not be specifically racist, it is more of an archaic term little used today except as it was used by Sellers â€" as a calculated insult.

Lemon refused to back down on Thursday in CNN’s The Situation Room. Lemon said, “What I saw was a minstrel show.… [West] in front of all these white people, mostly white people embarrassing himself and embarrassing Americans but mostly African Americans because every one of them is siting either at home or with their phones watching this, cringing.” (Emphasis added).

Note that Lemon implied that every single black person in America thinks as he does â€" and not like Kanye West. That is the very definition of racist â€" defining everything according to race.



You want to cry some media-driven tears, shed them for any man being called a race traitor simply for expressing support for our President and dialoging with him over the direction his policies need to go for black Americans.

THAT is fascism lived large.

Be afraid, be very afraid...because when this nation flies apart into a class/race war so too will your fair land feel the shock waves of economic destruction and social unrest.

:'(
#6962
Politics / Re: dude weed lol
October 12, 2018, 04:40:57 PM
Now what Trump is doing will wash some of the artificial gubmint costs out of refining if properly implemented:

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/23/business/energy-environment/high-price-ethanol-credits-add-to-refiners-woes.html

These credits originally sold for a few cents a gallon under the system supervised by the E.P.A. But as an unregulated trading market has emerged, the price has swung wildly for the credits, which are known as RINs, for Renewable Identification Numbers.

The ethanol RIN price approached $1.50 a gallon in the 2013 bubble before falling below 25 cents. And it recently spiked at nearly $1 before slipping back somewhat.

Ethanol is broadly unpopular in the oil industry, largely because biofuels compete with petroleum products for market share. And many say the policy to promote ethanol is antiquated after a six-year drilling frenzy in the United States that has resulted in reduced imports and cheap gasoline.

But the industry is divided on the question of who should be responsible for RIN purchases â€" those who refine gasoline, as is now the case, or those who blend gasoline with ethanol or other biofuels.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/10/08/trump-will-order-changes-to-biofuel-rules-in-bid-to-end-feud-between-farm-states-and-oil-refiners.html
The Trump administration will seek to reform two parts of the nation's policy to promote biofuels, marking its latest attempt to reach a mutually beneficial outcome for two of the president's key constituencies: the fossil fuel industry and farm states.

President Donald Trump on Tuesday ordered acting EPA Administrator Andrew Wheeler to take measures that would lift barriers to the summertime sale of E15, a type of gasoline-biofuel blend, according to a senior White House official. The change is calculated to shore up demand for biofuels such as corn-based ethanol and boost the fortunes of farmers.

Regulations effectively restrict the sale of E15 from the beginning of June through the middle of September at gas stations throughout much of the country.

At the same time, the Trump administration will aim to limit speculation in the market for biofuel credits, the official told reporters Monday. The nation's refiners have long complained that the obscure market is flawed, resulting in price spikes that drive up the cost of complying with federal rules and putting financial pressure on small refineries.
Tackling trade in biofuel credits

The administration will also start the federal rule-making process to address the energy industry's concerns about the market for biofuel credits, the official said.

Refiners generate the credits â€" known as Renewable Identification Numbers, or RINs â€" when they blend biofuels into gasoline. Refiners that aren't able to blend biofuels must purchase RINs from their competitors.

New regulations under consideration include limiting trading in the credits to refiners and fuel importers, the official said. That would cut out traders who are not linked to refining businesses but are allowed to trade in RINs. Refiners often blame these traders for wild price swings that can raise the cost of compliance for small refineries.

RINs prices were particularly volatile last year. Analysts say Trump's decision to appoint the billionaire investor Carl Icahn as a regulatory advisor fed that volatility. Icahn holds a majority stake in refinery operator CVR Energy and sought changes to biofuels rules that would benefit refiners, but the administration did not adopt his ideas.

Sens. Grassley and Ernst rejected Cruz's proposal to cap RINs prices following a White House meeting in February.
#6963
Random Topics / Re: Ask Liberace Anything
October 12, 2018, 04:31:11 PM
Many are - post often! :)
#6964
Politics / Re: dude weed lol
October 12, 2018, 04:28:56 PM
Quote from: Jackstar on October 12, 2018, 04:04:34 PM
It's cute how you clearly agree with me

That we need a viable domestic cellulosic as well as biodiesel energy presence (both as a hedge on oil and as an economic engine) is not under dispute. How we get one and maintain one however is. Just saying "fuck 'em" to Mr. Market is always a losing hand, as I have demonstrated in adequate detail.

Quotebut can't be bothered to make your post legible.

Oh it's quite legible even if I did miss a quote bracket break somewhere; stop obfuscating and come to factual dialog, please.

Or is it really that you can't bring valid data points to delineate why the refiners (for example) are so negative on biofuels.

https://biofuels-news.com/display_news/10810/Biofuel_blending_costs_soar_for_Valero/

Biofuel blending costs were $173 million in the second quarter of 2016, which was $117 million higher than the second quarter of 2015. Valero continues to expect such costs to be between $750 million and $850 million for 2016.

Ethanol results

Elsewhere, Valero’s ethanol segment reported $69 million of operating income ($49 million of adjusted operating income) for the second quarter of 2016 compared to $108 million of operating income for the second quarter of 2015.

Ethanol production volumes averaged 3.8 million gallons per day in the second quarter of 2016, which was consistent with the second quarter of 2015. Valero said expects ethanol demand to remain strong given high gasoline demand in the US and “attractive economics for corn-based ethanol exports”.

Profit drop

Overall profits for Valero plunged 40% in the second quarter as a glut of petroleum products weighs on prices and trims margins.

QuoteDid they tell you that was effective at Quantico?

Wow, you're going to run that same FBI lame you used with Palladin on me?

Come on jack, you're better than that.  :o

#6967
Great video, only 25% of us have an inner dialog?

Oh no...that it so Shrillary:



But to his point she likely does, as too Soros, it's just an EVIL inner dialog.

And yeah I've seen the cracks in Jordan Peterson's schtick too.

???

#6968
Politics / Re: dude weed lol
October 12, 2018, 03:09:48 PM
Quote from: Jackstar on October 12, 2018, 02:57:56 PM
That's not my argument.

Actually it HAS largely been your "argument"...

QuoteYou keep quoting criminals and traitors. It's not terribly persuasive./quote]

QuoteYour arguments aren't really sound here. Check for an update from your handler.

QuoteI really don't think you've thought this through. I really don't.

QuoteGiven that you're quoting a known traitor with an established agenda and zero credibility ("this kind of ethanol, but not that kind"), it's difficult to hypothesize what you're imagining that you're wondering about.

QuoteI do not think you are clear on what 'wonder' means. I really don't.

QuoteKeep studying.

See it's that kind of fact-free obfuscation that dulls your point. Stick to the hard data and account for the major market forces and players and this becomes a useful chew toy.

Play shoot the messenger and allude to palliatives that have largely been stymied isn't a winning hand of cards.

You do recall what happened to most of Obummer's green energy miracle companies, yes?

https://www.dailysignal.com/2012/10/18/president-obamas-taxpayer-backed-green-energy-failures/

The complete list of faltering or bankrupt green-energy companies:

Evergreen Solar ($25 million)*
SpectraWatt ($500,000)*
Solyndra ($535 million)*
Beacon Power ($43 million)*
Nevada Geothermal ($98.5 million)
SunPower ($1.2 billion)
First Solar ($1.46 billion)
Babcock and Brown ($178 million)
EnerDel’s subsidiary Ener1 ($118.5 million)*
Amonix ($5.9 million)
Fisker Automotive ($529 million)
Abound Solar ($400 million)*
A123 Systems ($279 million)*
Willard and Kelsey Solar Group ($700,981)*
Johnson Controls ($299 million)
Brightsource ($1.6 billion)
ECOtality ($126.2 million)
Raser Technologies ($33 million)*
Energy Conversion Devices ($13.3 million)*
Mountain Plaza, Inc. ($2 million)*
Olsen’s Crop Service and Olsen’s Mills Acquisition Company ($10 million)*
Range Fuels ($80 million)*
Thompson River Power ($6.5 million)*
Stirling Energy Systems ($7 million)*
Azure Dynamics ($5.4 million)*
GreenVolts ($500,000)
Vestas ($50 million)
LG Chem’s subsidiary Compact Power ($151 million)
Nordic Windpower ($16 million)*
Navistar ($39 million)
Satcon ($3 million)*
Konarka Technologies Inc. ($20 million)*
Mascoma Corp. ($100 million)
*Denotes companies that have filed for bankruptcy.

https://www.dailysignal.com/2012/10/18/president-obamas-taxpayer-backed-green-energy-failures/

That's what happens when gubmint tries to pick winners in the "free marketplace" - always....
#6969
https://www.teaparty.org/disgruntled-democrats-want-constitutional-convention-leave-union-205051/
(NTK Network) â€" On Tuesday, disgruntled Democrats held a forum to discuss the possibility of replacing the Electoral College.

Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-CA) conceded that Democrats could not get rid of the Electoral College due to the way the United States Constitution is written.

“I don’t think we can sustain our American democracy by having the majority ruled by the minority. And so the question is how to fix this since the Constitution is written in such a way that it’s almost impossible to amend,” Lofgren said.

Lofgren went on to say she is open to a Constitutional Convention, “We are three states away from calling for a Constitutional Convention. It’s something I’ve always been opposed to, …. But I’ll say because, for the second time in sixteen years, people the American voters elected did not become president. Rational people, not the fringe, are now talking about whether states could be separated from the U.S., whether we should have a Constitutional Convention. And I think as time goes on that is apt to become more the case unless we here can figure an answer to preventing the majority from being ruled by the minority.

>:( >:( >:(
#6970
Politics / Re: dude weed lol
October 12, 2018, 02:56:39 PM
I hadn't realized how bereft of actual data you are. 'Shoot the messenger' is a failed argumentation from the get go.

#6971
Politics / Re: Random Political Thoughts
October 12, 2018, 02:53:59 PM
Quote from: Jackstar on October 10, 2018, 02:49:50 PM
I think it'll take too long to get them all back up in there, frankly. Surely there's another solution.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uOLGrXOtuwQ
#6972
Politics / Re: dude weed lol
October 12, 2018, 02:50:28 PM
Quote from: Jackstar on October 12, 2018, 02:10:23 PM
Fuck them.

You've found some masterful way to get around them?

Share.

QuoteSo build them.

https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/let-american-farmers-grow-hemp-once-again-create-jobs-and-rebuild-rural-economy/

And then what happens if Trump doesn't stay past 2020?

I mean i suppose we could hope the dems would pander for votes there and keep it rolling, but somehow that never seems to happen.

QuoteYour arguments aren't really sound here.

Oh?

If so we'd have a viable, if not burgeoning, switchgrass ethanol industry by now, wouldn't we?

From 2010:

https://www.manufacturing.net/article/2010/08/25-million-acres-corn-nowhere-go

The EPA projections are:

Switchgrass (perennial grass): 7.9 Bgy
Soy biodiesel and corn oil: 1.34 Bgy
Crop residues (corn stover, includes bagasse): 5.5 Bgy
Woody biomass (forestry residue): 0.1 Bgy
Corn ethanol: 15.0 Bgy
Other (municipal solid waste): 2.6 Bgy
Animal fats and yellow grease: 0.38 Bgy
Algae: 0.1 Bgy
Imports: 2.2 Bgy
The EPA and USDA differ materially on switchgrass and other energy grasses (the USDA projecting 13.4 Bgy from this source), and both groups have not considered the use of short-term wood biomass crops, such as poplar.

Why is this news? Monsanto has projected that corn yields will reach an average of 300 bushels per acre by 2030, and Ceres CEO Richard Hamilton has stated that he is comfortable with a range of 12 tons per acre for switchgrass yields by 2022, based on current trends.


https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/us-bioenergy-statistics.aspx

QuoteCheck for an update from your handler.

I don't rate enough to have a "handler", sorry... :'(

#6973
Politics / Re: dude weed lol
October 12, 2018, 02:01:19 PM
Quote from: Jackstar on October 12, 2018, 01:51:46 PM
I really don't think you've thought this through. I really don't.

bleeding = mass market forces (big oil/corn/et al.)

edge = hemp/switchgrass

tech = lack of actual refineries

...I love the smell of fry oil diesel and the idea of hemp ethanol. But I've seen what Obummer and Biden did to "green energy".

:(
#6974
Politics / Re: dude weed lol
October 12, 2018, 01:44:34 PM
Quote from: Gd5150 on October 12, 2018, 01:08:09 PM
Just need cars that run on the oil from fried Twinkie’s and we’re set. Renewable energy!

BioWillie!

Unfortunately market forces punished the alternative.

https://www.glocktalk.com/proxy.php?image=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.5yearcharts.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F04%2Fcrude-oil-vs-cpi-5y.png&hash=a191ae21dd3a4691a8ca183eb0311d31
#6975
Politics / Re: dude weed lol
October 12, 2018, 01:41:01 PM
Quote from: Jackstar on October 12, 2018, 01:23:52 PM
Growing weed... is "bleeding edge?" Humans have been doing it for thirteen thousand years. Reconcile.

Distillation to ethanol functionally speaking is bleeding edge weed tech.

Which partly why it never panned out past subsidy.

Big awl don't like to play with weeds.

https://junkscience.com/2011/12/wsj-the-cellulosic-ethanol-debacle/

"An October 2011 report on biofuels by the National Academy of Sciences concluded that the mandates “may be an ineffective way to reduce global greenhouse gas emissions.” Because production is so low, advanced cellulosic fuels also do very little to reduce U.S. dependence on foreign oil. The report notes that “currently, no commercially viable biorefineries exist for converting cellulosic biomass to fuel.”

Why? Because of what the National Academy report calls “the high cost of producing cellulosic biofuels compared with petroleum-based fuels, and uncertainties in future biofuel markets.” The report does say that technological breakthroughs could make cellulosic fuels cost-competitive in the future, but that same leap of faith has driven subsidies to alternative energy for 40 years.

To recap: Congress subsidized a product that didn’t exist, mandated its purchase though it still didn’t exist, is punishing oil companies for not buying the product that doesn’t exist, and is now doubling down on the subsidies in the hope that someday it might exist. We’d call this the march of folly, but that’s unfair to fools. [Emphasis added]"

https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/410675-oil-industry-green-groups-join-to-oppose-trumps-ethanol-plan

The oil industry, however, has a different concern. They’re worried that the change would reduce the incentive for the ethanol and corn industries to negotiate major reforms to the Renewable Fuel Standard, the federal policy that requires fuel refiners to blend specified amounts of ethanol into gasoline.

Oil companies also stand to sell less traditional gasoline, while their costs could go up, if Trump’s plan is implemented.

“I can’t overstate how disappointed we are with this decision by the president,” said Chet Thompson, president of American Fuel and Petrochemical Manufacturers, which represents fuel refiners.
Environmental advocates and the oil industry both say the new policy would violate a Clean Air Act provision that limits the volatility of fuels that can be sold. The EPA has concluded numerous times, most recently in 2011, that allowing E15 in the summer â€" when ozone pollution levels are highest â€" would violate the law.

“What he’s telling EPA to do is unlawful,” said Thompson. “If the president moves forward, it leaves us zero options but to challenge it.”

#6977
Random Topics / Re: Ask Liberace Anything
October 12, 2018, 01:21:02 PM
Quote from: Jackstar on October 12, 2018, 01:12:46 PM

... he did? So lonely.

Well I saw some posts there in the main forum from you (not very many) so...didn't he?

#6978
Politics / Re: dude weed lol
October 12, 2018, 01:17:50 PM
Quote from: Jackstar on October 12, 2018, 01:10:11 PM
Given that you're quoting a known traitor with an established agenda and zero credibility ("this kind of ethanol, but not that kind"), it's difficult to hypothesize what you're imagining that you're wondering about.

That is the point in analyzing what really happens when gubmint runs into bleeding edge farm subsidy tech, no?

Ergo "King Corn"...Roundup, terminator seeds...duh...

QuoteYou're better than this. Can't you renew your schtick?

Until we get some cranium rattling leftards in here to light up, it'll be scout team silage reps only.

:-\

#6979
Random Topics / Re: Ask Liberace Anything
October 12, 2018, 01:11:54 PM
Quote from: Jackstar on October 12, 2018, 01:05:57 PM
There simply is no level of depravity to which that degenerate will not sink. Appalling.

Bart paroled you from his cuckshack for what reason???

:-X
#6980
Random Topics / Re: Ask Liberace Anything
October 12, 2018, 01:10:05 PM
Quote from: brig on October 12, 2018, 01:01:28 PM
Thank You!   ;D :-*

Yes, I was informed about how he has childishly defaced my posts announcing that Bellgab was back online.   ;D

Near as I can tell from my cuckshack window the only sin you ever committed there was liking HLW.

Now there's some crime against the parapodverse, eh?

:(
#6981
Politics / Re: dude weed lol
October 12, 2018, 01:03:44 PM
Well I'm not wondering about yield.

:o

https://junkscience.com/2011/12/wsj-the-cellulosic-ethanol-debacle/
WSJ: The Cellulosic Ethanol Debacle

“Congress mandated purchase of 250 million gallons in 2011. Actual production: 6.6 million.”

The Wall Street Journal editorializes,

‘We’ll fund additional research in cutting-edge methods of producing ethanol, not just from corn but from wood chips and stalks or switch grass. Our goal is to make this new kind of ethanol practical and competitive within six years.”

â€"George W. Bush, 2006 State of the Union address
#6982
Random Topics / Re: Ask Liberace Anything
October 12, 2018, 12:59:17 PM
Quote from: SredniVashtar on October 12, 2018, 12:37:59 PM
Doesn't he have anything better to do than hang around a website that doesn't want him?



QuoteSorry, silly question... :-[

#6983
Random Topics / Re: Ask Liberace Anything
October 12, 2018, 12:55:16 PM
Quote from: Dr. MD MD on October 12, 2018, 12:31:43 PM
I had my fun with those stupid twats. Then I got bored. I’d say that’s pretty typical alpha behavior.  :P

...and had a smoke afterward...lol...

#6984
Radio and Podcasts / Re: Best of Styx
October 12, 2018, 11:48:04 AM
#6985
Politics / Re: dude weed lol
October 12, 2018, 11:43:38 AM
I wonder...is hemp the next switchgrass?

???



#6988
Random Topics / Re: Ask Liberace Anything
October 12, 2018, 11:14:47 AM
#6989
Politics / Re: dude weed lol
October 12, 2018, 11:11:42 AM
#6990
Random Topics / Re: Sardine Talk/Rate The Sardines
October 12, 2018, 11:09:11 AM
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